What do you think of guys who believe girls are turned on by creepiness and aggression like randomly choking, rape or forcing make out(RSDTyler/Julien fans)?

Snoo52682 · 2022-05-29T09:17:52+00:00

That those guys are turned on by rape.

spaceshipwoohoo · 2022-05-29T08:48:33+00:00

They're delusional. And their behaviour is worrying.

I'd run away from them faster than you can say "rapist."

Red_Trapezoid · 2022-05-29T10:17:54+00:00

Porn and narcissistic dudebro culture. I remember so many guys growing up who had completely deluded themselves into thinking that they were irresistible to women. Did they have any women approaching them or even showing any interest? Weeeeeelll nooooooo but somehow they still thought that they were exactly what women wanted.

lawrieee · 2022-05-29T10:14:13+00:00

Even if it was true, you should totally check first.

Slight_Fig5187 · 2022-05-29T16:15:39+00:00

Porn addicts mostly, with little experience of the real world. Some things that look violent though can enhance pleasure if they are consensual and strict rules apply, like a safe word in any BDSM play. Restricting oxygen through a certain degree of choking can lead to very intense orgasms, but this is something that must be agreed, as everything else in sex. And there are many men who also enjoy those same things.

Knave_of_Opossums · 2022-05-29T13:51:11+00:00

Projection.

tenmileswide · 2022-05-29T18:39:11+00:00

It is a very real fantasy some women have, but the problem is extrapolating it to all women. The biggest flaw that these people have is treating women like a hive mind and presuming that it's some primal immutable desire.

zonadedesconforto · 2022-05-29T12:48:50+00:00

These guys will end up in jail soon

Academic_Type624 · 2022-05-29T16:43:58+00:00

I think they're abusive arseholes.

2022-05-29T16:46:25+00:00

They are delusional and they are sadists.

I worry if they came to this conclusion on their own, or if someone else convinced them it's true. If it's the latter, then it's truly evil that someone is spreading such misinformation.

dongtouch · 2022-05-29T16:51:42+00:00

They do not think of women as human beings in the same way that they are. We are toys or props in their own sadistic fantasies. They are garbage.

2022-05-30T00:21:24+00:00

In some cases this can indicate a serious sexual or personality pathology (sexual sadism, dark triad traits, etc.) but I think most of the time it's because they lack experience and proper sex education and use porn as a teacher. Allot of guys see extreme things in porn and just assume that it is normal, expected and they don't have to ask permission. They don't take the risks seriously enough.

There has been a significant decline in the receipt of sex education in the USA since the mid-90s. You have allot of guys (and girls) who use porn, magazines and dubious advice forms to learn about sex. These sources have helped mainstream rough sex practices, like choking. Some researchers believe that a rise in rough sex among 18-29 year olds is one of several reasons why there has been a notable decline in partnered sexual activity in that demographic.

oeuf_fume · 2022-05-29T19:30:09+00:00

Nasty ass fuckers.

DanMarinosDolphins · 2022-05-29T13:20:53+00:00

How do I explain this... Men need to understand in a patriarchy that they need to work very hard to make sure they have consent from women. People have no problem understanding that enslaved American women could not consent to relationships with white men, yet I've never seen it brought up that in a patriarchy women can't really consent to men. There's such a massive power embalance built into society via patriarchy, that I truly don't believe any woman can ever really consent to sex with men. In that environment, men need to realize women will say things, like that they're into bdsm or choking or not wearing condoms etc. Because they are complying to a higher status individual. It may even feel to these women that they want these things when they really don't. In an environment like this, men need to work very diligently, to make women feel safe and to cultivate an environment with their woman where she feels she can say no to things she doesn't want or like.

As far as violence in sex specifically, violence towards women in porn is pretty prevelant. I read that some 80% of the most popular heterosexual porn shows some sort of violence towards women. I do think it's influencing young people. The amount of memes I see women sharing about liking to be beat up and choked during sex is extremely high. I don't believe them. Because these are the same women who tend to be "cool girls" women who identify with men more than women.

xvszero · 2022-05-29T22:38:09+00:00

A lot of these guys take true things like "many women have rape fantasies" and think it means something significant when for most of those women, it's just a vague fantasy in their mind, not a way they actually want to be treated in real life.

weekly_reach · 2022-05-30T00:22:57+00:00

Because I alone have known multiple women who were turned on by such things.

I had to break it to them... I just can't do that. Even if it makes them happy. It's just... too much.

incredulitor · 2022-05-30T01:33:35+00:00

We all need some social calibration, and you're not wrong to ask the question... something feels odd about it though. How were you imagining people would respond? What would be different if you were to make your own decisions about how to approach people like this?

AutoModerator · 2022-06-06T17:37:19+00:00

I mean these type of men usually dont really care about "some sluts" pleasure. In their minds...why should they? A woman is a toy to use and thats it. Sex is supposed zo make the man feel good, the woman is a slut and sluts shouldnt feel entitled to pleasure. Thats how these men think. Thats how many men think. So I always wonder why they Obsess over women having rape Fantasies or womens desire when they dont really care in the first place. They probably like the woman having pain.

Title	What do you think of guys who believe girls are turned on by creepiness and aggression like randomly choking, rape or forcing make out(RSDTyler/Julien fans)?
Author	Rude-Weather5307
Upvotes	15
Comments	52
Date	May 29, 2022 8:32 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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