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My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals

Onemoretime536

July 28, 2022
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Title My son's innocent teenage fumblings saw him branded a rapist, hounded out of school and left sobbing in emotional agony, his anonymous mother reveals
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Onemoretime536

Upvotes 156
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Date July 28, 2022 11:57 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
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BBC Radio 4 - Woman's Hour - ‘I realised I had no male friends - here’s what I did about it and what I learnt from women’

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September 21, 2022
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[–][deleted] 3 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

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[–]DownVotesWrongsOnly 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Men need feminism because they need to get in touch with their feelings"

[–]Peptocoptr 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

What wording did you use to tell him that? It sounds to me like he's gonna grow up to think he can't have physical contact with anyone. Your advise has some merit, but the lack of nuance in it seems terrible.

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[–]ChimpPimp20 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think you should tell him that he should hug people he trusts.

[–]Zaronaxleft-wing male advocate 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People you trust are one step away from being people you don't trust.

There are so many "retrospective" accusations that you literally cannot do anything that could be misconstrued.

[–]no_bling_just_ding 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

he's gonna grow up to think he can't have physical contact with anyone.

which is accurate. not because i don't want him to but because he will get locked up for it.

[–]Peptocoptr 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

He can though. It's not easy and it requires a lot more getting to know the person along with walking on egg shells, but it's stupid to say he can't have physical contact with anyone period.

[–][deleted] 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Peptocoptr -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm glad he did, but creating a moral panic about women making false allegations is obviously immoral. You didn't exactly set him up to be someone who can trust women, and obviously, he shouldn't trust ALL women, but my issue with your advice lacking nuance still stands.

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[–]Peptocoptr -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your job is moreso to prepare him than to protect him, but I get what you mean

[–]madonnamanpower 46 points47 points48 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Pretty messed up story. Should mothers hop to treating their boys like fathers treat their daughters? Might help balance things out.

And the school really should have expelled the girl that made the confirmed false accusation.

[–]BloomingBrains 34 points35 points36 points 3 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

She should have been worse than expelled.

All the bullies that went after him should have been expelled. But the girl that actually made the false accusation should be expelled and get attempted murder, considering he could have died from this (either suicide or by vigilante). At the very least she deserves some kind of punishment for ruining his life and causing him mental anguish. Lets say 10 years in jail.

Either that or she should be wrecked financially and have to pay damages. Maybe she'll think about what she did while she's desperately working 3 different minimum wage jobs at once to pay off her debts and missing out on going to college to start building her life with the rest of her friends.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

What I don't see in the article is the parents suing the school, or whoever is responsible for this terrible policy. The school should have protected him as innocent until proven guilty.

[–]BloomingBrains 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That's just it, the topless photo was proof for them.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well, yes, the initial issue was a disgrace as well, and handled with total sexism.

I was more thinking of the later accusations of sexual assault.

[–]madonnamanpower 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Agreed that should be slander. But I imagine that highschool gossip, while is slander would be difficult to press legal charges agenst to a court of law. Slander is a pretty difficult ruling to get in general. And may be hard to get a judge to take highschool gossip seriously.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The school definitely shared responsibility here, which should be brought to court.

[–]madonnamanpower 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In regards to the original punishment. Its extremely obtuse that they weren't discrete with the guy. If they are going to make it that public they should have suspended the girl as well. (After all it sounded like she was the one making child pornography)

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

indeed

[–]PeterTheShrugEmoji 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately, I don't think it's that cut-and-dry. Dismissing a case due to a lack of evidence is not the same as proving the girl made a false accusation.

Just like we can't go around punishing every accused man, we also can't go around punishing every woman who can't prove her case.

I do agree that we should treat proved false allegations much more harshly than we currently do.

[–]BloomingBrains 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Okay so you're telling me it'd be ok if a woman made a false allegation against you right now and ruined your life, and went unpunished because "hey, they're just dismissing the case due to lack of evidence, they didn't prove it was false." What's to stop any woman from filing multiple rape allegations against every guy she didn't like?

There needs to be some kind of deterrent. And the punishment should always be at least as proportional to the harm caused. Simply put: if filing false accusations was a punished crime, no woman would ever do it, they'd only file if it was true. Meaning we'd actually be able to be more certain when claims are made, benefitting women as well.

[–]34T_y3r_v3ggi3s 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It just bothers me that the media is so nonchalantly dismissive of false accusations. They claim that they're exceedingly rare. Well, even if say like 1% of rape cases are false allegations, then that's still a shit ton of women in the world who would do it, because the global population is pretty high (I often think it's an unfortunate thing too, hey at least we iNcEL sHiTlOrDs aren't the ones contributing to the overpopulation issue, but that's another discussion). I got banned from a sub for simply saying that rape cases be investigated and not just believed because it's women doing it. And it's even worse because when men come forward about sexual assault from a woman, they're ridiculed. The Facebook crowd is particularly vile in this regard. Any time there's a story of a twenty-something year old teacher having a sexual encounter with a young boy in school, the immediate response from these vile fucks in the oh so fucked comments section is to say WeLl WHeRe wErE tHeSe tEaCHeRs wHeN i wAs iN ScHoOl? As if they'd somehow look back on being literally molested as a child fondly. Good God I hate these double standards. And the issue is is that feminists refuse to ever take culpability in contributing to this insane cultural zeitgeist.

[–]PeterTheShrugEmoji 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That situation you outlined quite literally happened to me. Check my post history.

After having experienced that, I'm more committed than ever to the idea that every crime must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt before being punished. This must include both rape and abuse as well as false accusations thereof.

Your ideal world would be horrific for any rape victim. Imagine you've been raped. You just experienced one of the worst days of your entire life. You report your rapist, but because he didn't leave any evidence, you can't prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt. Since you can't prove, you now go to jail for attempted murder.

[–]BloomingBrains 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're absolutely right, I don't want to create that kind of horrific situation either. Just to be clear, I'm not saying we should automatically take unproved accusation to mean false.

I guess where we got on different tracks was your use of the word "proof". Yeah, in this case, they probably can't "prove" objectively that the allegations were false (i.e. some kind of scientific test), but then again, real rape cases often can't be "proven" either. In this case though I think it is patently obvious that this was done maliciously.

[–]Mahameghabahanacentrist male advocate 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A boy in india named manav Singh commited suicide after a girl made a false accusations against him. His father is still trying to get justice.

[–]madonnamanpower 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

India is quite a bit different. they still have acid attacks disfiguring women when they say no to a STRANGER coming up to them on the street and asking to marry them.

[–]TheLWMA 81 points82 points83 points 3 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link

Let me be clear: I abhor the fact that violence against women is still such a problem in our society. It breaks my heart every time I read about the latest young woman who has been attacked, raped and even murdered on our streets. I’ve always taught my sons to respect women and make sure their female friends get home safe.

Yep, here's the typical "I'm not being antifeminist or anything, but..." disclaimer.

Also, does this writer's heart break for any young man who was viciously murdered? If this writer had a daughter, would she teach her to respect men and make sure her male friends get home safe?

I do wonder why there is an expectation that a 13-year-old boy should understand all the nuances of relationships that often confuse grown men. Perhaps my son did make mistakes that made the girl who chose to call the police feel uncomfortable, and if that is the case I am genuinely sorry for her.

"Men are dumb cavemen who don't understand relationships" comment aside, do I even need to explain how completely ridiculous this sentence is? The girl might have felt uncomfortable and might have had an overreaction? Is this mother so indoctrinated by feminism that she has to twist everything to make sure her son is at fault in some capacity?

[–]ShoutoutsToSimple 64 points65 points66 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that bothered me as well. Despite how extreme the events were, the mom still can't just wholly take the side of a boy without constantly backpedaling and providing disclaimers about how girls are totally justified and blah blah blah.

Like I'm still glad people are sharing stories like this to raise awareness of the issue. But it's so frustrating how even a mother of a son going through all of this bullshit feels the need to constantly pander to the feminist point of view, rather than just firmly state how toxic it is, and how these events are a direct result of it.

[–]ThunderClap448 50 points51 points52 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I think the issue is - the moment you take the boy's side and don't have 741 disclaimers, people just call you sexist, anti-feminist and what not, and dismiss your beliefs and opinions, AND experiences.

[–]gratis_eekhoorn[🍰] 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

being called an antifeminist is a badge of honor for me

[–]WesterosiAssassin 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, I don't think it's her fault, she's saying it because she has to or she knows she'll be attacked. Just like how you need an 'I'm not a Trump supporter' disclaimer if you're going to criticize Democrats in any non-explicitely-leftist spaces.

[–]Olilord502016 points 3 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I sometimes feel compelled to have a disclaimer that I don't hate women as a whole when I take the men's side on some issues, such as situations that a woman assaults a man.

[–]matrixislife 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I try to make the point that feminism and women are not the same thing. I can happily loathe feminism and feminists while having plenty of respect for women in general.

[–]Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's insane to me is that not too long ago you didn't need these endless disclaimers stating what your not saying because people took you at what you were saying. The how culture on how we interprit intent has flipped and its just one aspect that's ruined discourse online and in general.

[–]BloomingBrains 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I think it's pretty clear she wasn't totally taking the girls side and was in fact saying how toxic that mentality is.

That bit at the end there? She's just saying that maybe her son did do something that could be construed as a little too forceful. Like, I'm sure plenty of boys make remarks that accidentally sound too forward and sexual when they're trying out flirting for the first time, for example. I remember doing something like that myself, but luckily I wasn't Me Too'd for it.

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[–]Enzi42 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I was going to downvote this but I figure trying to explain rather than just “attack” is more constructive.

There are a lot of people on this thread that are justifiably angry and bitter on this thread. The issue described in the article is a horrible tragedy that often is covered up or even worse brushed aside as “acceptable losses in the fight against a bigger issue”.

So it stands to reason that emotions are going to be running high on this one. There are a few takes that I do find to be a overly judgmental or just outright unfairly harsh, but again that’s expected when such a charged topic comes into discussion.

Calling these positions “red pill” does no favors for anyone at all. First of all, red pill is a distinct ideology that has very little to do with this article and the topic it covers.

Secondly, the use of it is thrown around far too liberally to the point it’s just become slang for “opinions on gender dynamics that I don’t like”. Not helpful at all.

What exactly do you feel is troubling about the opinions expressed here?

[–]lingdingwhoopy 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Attacking this mother's ideology and mindset because she happened to use a few prefaces where she, gasp, says women and girls are allowed to feel uncomfortable sounds like basic redpill nonsense to me. She flat out says the standard discomfort of young people working through awkward first-time sexual encounters should not be insidiously weaponized.

People are even accusing her of not fully supporting her son simply because of this.

I understand the bitterness. I understand the anger. I SHARE it. But some people here are more concerned with questioning this mother's motives and ideology than supporting the fact she's outright saying and supporting things this sub discusses on the reg. And why? Because she didn't outright rip feminism apart?

Come on...

[–]Enzi42 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well I have to admit your line of thinking is much closer to mine than I had thought. I’m not a fan of the way people are picking apart the minute details of this lady’s words just because of her acknowledgement of the awkwardness and uncomfortableness inherent in teenage sexual fumbling.

Frankly I didn’t see her words on that as supporting feminist thought; if anything it seemed more like a placating tactic, tossing a bone to the preverbal wolves to avoid unnecessary backlash to her article.

I think that’s something most here should be able to relate to.

I guess then the only thing I can say is that I agree with your sentiment even if I don’t think it was phrased in the best way (the red pill thing).

[–]lingdingwhoopy 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man. We're in agreement.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[M] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Removed as per rule 7. Don't throw wild accusations around targeted at users of this sub.

[–]lingdingwhoopy 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Making an observation and voicing an opinion is a "wild accusation?"

Whatever you say...

[–]lingdingwhoopy 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeesh. Talk about an overreaction. She's merely saying the girl may have felt uncomfortable by an awkward/naive interaction and that, in and of itself, is fine.

[–]SexEleven 18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a messed up story. So sad and ridiculous. Good for the mother for writing this.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I am sure I didn't even know what the word nonce meant when I was a teenager. I don't recall ever hearing the word at secondary school.

What is the real underlying cause for our society's histrionic obsession with sexual crime and sexual deviancy? I believe there is psychological explanation. How many of these so-called 'nonce-bashers' and 'pedo-hunters' are actually secretly pedophiles who are overcompensating and projecting? Shakespeare said it well, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

I knew that adults engaged in this kind of public shaming and social shunning, but I did not believe that children were capable of it. Obviously, I am naive.

If you have kids, or if you intend to have kids, then you need to tell them about the dangers of underage sexting and warn them of the repercussions if they get caught. Under British law, if someone under the age of 18 takes a picture of themselves, then they can potentially incur a criminal penalty for a child p***ography offence.

It sounds like this boy might have delayed social skills, possibly due to a neurodevelopmental disorder such as Autism Spectrum Disorder or ADHD. If so, this makes this story even more tragic, because children with these conditions should be given greater care and protection by society.

Poor kid.

[–]BloomingBrains 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I just looked up nonce, and apparently it means pedophile.

First of all, pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubescent children. Secondly, the girl was his own age anyway.

Like, I can understand why people would call him a rapist (from the point of view of their fucked up logic and evil political agendas), but a pedophile just straight up makes no sense. That right there shows the intent was malicious and to cause as much harm as possible.

And yeah, the people leading the charge are often the most guilty, its a way to cover their tracks. Like, I would love to see a picture of this guy, because I almost guarantee you he is average looking or lower. If he has "chad-like" features I would be absolutely shocked, considering I know for a fact that those type of men/boys can get away with saying/doing whatever this kid did and much worse.

That is the reason for the witch hunt. Society desperately needs a scapegoat for inappropriate behavior so they can cover up the double standard.

It sounds like this boy might have delayed social skills, possibly due to a neurodevelopmental disorder such as Autism Spectrum Disorder or ADHD.

I'm genuinely curious what evidence you see that points to that, if you don't mind telling me?

[–]Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just looked up nonce, and apparently it means pedophile.

That's why the school should have shut that shit down immediately. It became a witch hunt and they'd condemned him. Once he is a social pariah he's utterly devoid of humanity and will be mercilessly tormented for their amusement.

It doesn't make sense to call him a nonce and I think it's indicative of the culture thesw kids live in. They know buzz words, they don't know what they mean but they have power. They use them without fear of reprocussion. And so once that boundary is established it allows others to follow suit.

It's terribly irresponsible of the kids and also of the school to take hysteria as a legitimate allegation.

[–]Onemoretime536[S] 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An interesting article from a mother about how her son has been treated by the school and police with allegations against him and how the school treats boys different to girls.

[–]Aimless-Nomad 43 points44 points45 points 3 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link

Shame how some women don't give a shit about men until it affects their sons.

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[–]MelissaMiranti 37 points38 points39 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are women who care because it's the right thing to do, not because they have sons. I don't have kids at all and I care about people.

[–]Aimless-Nomad 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right. I'm just sad at what I've personally seen. Would be wrong to say every woman.

[–]NimishApteleft-wing male advocate 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean, most people don't care about an issue until it affects them personally. That's just how humans work. No need to blame women.

[–]gratis_eekhoorn[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

most people still dont care about that issue even when it affects someone close to them, the few who care enough to speak about it seem to be more concerned about not hurting feminism (which is a part of this issue itself) than the problem itself

[–]Skirt_Douglas 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Give her a break, she probably did know, at least she is raising awareness about it.

[–]SeedsOfDoubt[🍰] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Give her a break

Why?

We see articles like this about men and their daughters. The comments are always about, "why did it take a daughter and not his wife, or mother, or any other woman in his life to make him see the light?"

Even in a place like this sub the onus is always on the man to have more compassion for the woman in the situation.

[–]Skirt_Douglas 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because sometimes it really does take one to know one, and if you don’t have first hand experience of being a man, you might need an unfortunate event to become aware of how we are vulnerable. We (men) have first hand experience male socialization, of course we are more readily compassionate of the male experience, that’s inevitable. If you have been homeless, you’ll almost certainly be more readily compassionate of the homeless. If you have a mental illness, you’ll probably be more readily compassionate of others with mental illnesses, on so on. Getting mad at a person for being ignorant in the past due to not having first hand experience is just kind of petty, especially when the person is now trying to help.

Primarily, I’m saying give her a break because she is helping. We need that help, I don’t think anything useful is going to come from having this pessimistic attitude toward the people who want to help just because it took a personal tragedy to spur them into action. She is not a bad person for not being on team Male advocacy since day 1, what matters is she arrived there.

[–]WesterosiAssassin 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lots of people don't care about or understand things until they affect them or people close to them, unfortunately. We should be glad they're coming around to caring at all, not attacking them for not caring sooner. That just gets in the way of progress.

[–]SeedsOfDoubt[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not attacking the writer in any way. I just don't think I need to "cut them some slack" when, as I said, men don't seem to get the same consideration.

A base standard should be set for both genders. I'm find with that.

[–]MelissaMiranti 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My guess is that their threshold of empathy is that much higher, and generally people care more for their children than for anyone else.

[–]Aimless-Nomad 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya i guess. No rage from my side, just disappointment. Hope she inspires more moms.

[–]Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ahe probably didn't even realise it was an issue.

[–]Aimless-Nomad 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't care either

[–]CoffeehasSentience 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say this may be common in my experience as well. They also say men only give a shit about women when they have daughters. Guess it happens both ways? Or maybe we notice the bigger difference from some people from not caring to caring.

[–]Sinnaatraa 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Her wording in the article is even sadder, because it gives the vibe she doesnt really want to aknowledge the root of the problem here, even if she is sympathetic to her son she sounds like she might dabble in feminism.

[–]gratis_eekhoorn[🍰] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

remember, most people can care about individual males in their lives but they cannot care about men as a collective, they don't care about misandry as long as it affects someone close to them, even then the few people who care enough to speak about it do it in a way to not offend "sacred" things feminism

[–]A9SteakSauce 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can’t imagine being that kid; it’s gotta be god awful when you try so hard to be yourself and to be accepted and get treated like a genuine predator; I dealt with so much at that age that I don’t think I could’ve survived something like that.

Huge props to the kid for sticking it out, and I really hope some day someone can come along and show him true love; i don’t think he’s going to be pursuing it much anytime soon.

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

where were the grown-ups in this?

They were right there. They watched it happen and were fine with it.

Another innocent life destroyed, but hey, it's only a male life so I guess everyone with the power to stop it will watch from the sidelines.

[–]Normal-Yogurtcloset5 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anti-male indoctrination has been a part of a segment of the feminist movement for years and has only recently been recognized because of the rise of the MeToo movement which allowed some people to demonize any male behavior no matter how innocent. Some people, I believe, have a hidden agenda that has nothing to do with empowering women and all to do with their own personal benefit.

I saw things heading this way when, in the 1970’s, I took a sex ed class in high school. Although some of the students were couples who wanted to take the class together, the instructor, a lesbian, had all of the girls sit in front of her class and the boys sit in the back. She only addressed the girls with every class consisting of some version of “boys only want one thing”. When we raised our hands with questions we were ignored. Eventually, we all basically checked out of the class and would spend the time sitting in the back talking, reading, etc.

I thought about that teacher and how she tried to use her class to indoctrinate female students when I was at university and was dating a woman who was an RA at our university’s women’s college. One day, I was in her room when some of the students wanted to speak with her about something that was concerning them. The school made first year students take an Intro to Women’s Studies class. The instructor, also a lesbian, was telling these young women that, in order to be a feminist, they had to be a lesbian. These students were straight and some of them had boyfriends. They did, though, want to be feminists and were confused about what they were being told and were questioning whether it was proper. My girlfriend told them that the instructor was wrong and they could be heterosexual and still be feminists. She also suggested that they file a complaint with a department head or with the dean because what the instructor was doing wasn’t education…it was indoctrination. These young women were too afraid to take that step and just relieved that they didn’t have to change their sexual orientation in order to be feminists.

[–]onlysmokereg -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stopped reading when it said 2nd base is a passionate kiss in America. 2nd base is honkin a jug my dude

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