Do you guys think "creepy" guys exist?

dynospectrum7 · 2023-07-19T17:45:05+00:00

In terms of dating, creepy is unwanted sexual attention.

bentlife1986 · 2023-07-19T17:58:56+00:00

yes dudes can be creepy. Your post is a great example.

TheseHandsDoHaze · 2023-07-19T21:02:21+00:00

What happened to this community lmfao

ProMILFslayer · 2023-07-19T17:53:49+00:00

Bro. Yes of course guys can be creepy. There is however a difference between actually being a fucking weirdo and an ugly dude trying to run game at the club who is “creepy”. Just be attractive and not a dumbass: it won’t matter.

Notlikeotherguys · 2023-07-19T20:22:49+00:00

I don't know about ugly guys being creepy, but I've seen my share of highly attractive guys around the workplace get away with murder that would get most of us normies fired. Sexual comments, touchy Feely, swatting asses, and generally immature behavior and a 5th grade sense of humor being treated as the height of commedy. Not to mention tha fact that the were usually woefully inexperienced, and ineffective at the positions for which they were hired. Beautiful people, male or female definately live in a different world than the rest of us.

dolanthesemicolon · 2023-07-19T19:20:42+00:00

Hell yes. And its not necessarily anything to do with them not being attractive.

A guy who I grew up with used to work in the local factory in our town. Let's call him Ben. He was a big strong muscular guy, probably average to good looking. This factory he worked in had that standard canteen where all the workers did lunch. Ben always planned his lunch at the same time as 1 particular girl that worked there, whom he was besotted by. And just to note, Ben wasn't single. He was in an LTR. Anyway, every single break or lunch time he sat 1 table away from her so that he could sit and watch her eat while he ate. Every single fucking day for about 5 solid years.

It gets worse, he made his own girlfriend dye and style her hair and dress up exactly like this girl.

It was also scary that his girlfriend looked a little similar to this girl he fancied too.

So hell yeah, creepy guys exist.

reercalium2 · 2023-07-19T17:34:09+00:00

yes they are creepy. Next question!

BeetleLord · 2023-07-19T23:20:17+00:00

Most of the examples you've listed are examples of men being really unsophisticated at expressing attraction. Men are also looked down on just as much- if not more so- if they never interact with women. They'll be called an incel (or worse). Which one is preferable?

Women don't have any social expectation placed onto them that is nearly this challenging. The reason some men behave this way is because women and biology put them in this position of being forced to be aggressive to make something happen. Otherwise, they will be alone, lonely and despised for their entire life.

Men are sometimes rewarded for being sexually aggressive in an unsophisticated manner simply because so few men are willing to show any sexual forwardness whatsoever. The guys out there being crude (and sometimes disgusting) are often rewarded with sex, and the ones who practice self-restraint are typically punished by being ignored.

Basically, what men are expected to do- to be sexually aggressive while being extremely sophisticated about it simultaneously- is a very delicate and challenging balancing act. Women have no idea just how difficult it is. That's why places like TRP exist... but you'll also be called a loser if you study how to do it correctly. Despite the fact that there's not a single post on here that would tell you to behave like the men from your examples.

Women only want men who can pull of this balancing act authentically, effortlessly, automatically. And they will (usually) take a creep who's sexually aggressive and unsophisticated over a "nice guy" who's trying to learn how to run game.

Anyway, men that behave in an unsophisticated way toward women are pretty gross. There's no doubt about it. It's also important (for both men and women) to understand why it happens. Maybe women can stop encouraging this behavior and we'll see less of it.

StormTigrex · 2023-07-19T18:16:52+00:00

People who come off as creepy are either autistic, thinking they are just getting rejected because they haven't nagged you enough or too old to give a shit about being polite.

It's all shades of the same type of social retardedness. Violent criminals and creeps are one and the same, but instead of anger, it's lust they are physically unable to control. When this (inevitably) happens again, just remember half of the population has an IQ below 100. Do you get pissed off at a dog barking at you for no reason? No, because it's what they do.

CoolKid2326 · 2023-07-19T18:57:12+00:00

yes, next question. Though i never liked the word "creepy" since its real definition is supposed to be about feeling uneasy, scared, or nervous due to something scary not how girls perceive guys they don't like acting sexual. Also getting called creepy is inevitable since sometimes you think you have a read on someone, you escalate, and then it goes poorly and you are now creepy

Woujo · 2023-07-19T19:28:29+00:00

There are senses of the word "creepy": an objective and a subjective definition.

The objective definition is when a person is overly emotionally invested in the other person. If we meet at a bar and talk for 5 minutes, and then I become obsessed with you, stalking you on social media and stuff, that is creepy.

That raises the question: how emotionally invested should a person be? The answer is that emotional investment is caused by actions and you should only do things for people who are doing things for you. If we talk at a bar for 5 minutes and you offer to buy me a Ferrari, that is creepy because you are doing way too much for me. Even if you to do offer something small, like giving me a ride home, that is creepy because we don't have that kind of relationship yet.

Making things sexual too early is creepy because you are overly emotionally invested.

The second sense of creepy is subjective. Women often falsely accuse me of being creepy who aren't being objectively creepy. I tell guys to disregard subjective creepiness. If a woman wants to falsely think you are creepy, that's her problem. Not yours.

Rifleshoot · 2023-07-19T19:28:46+00:00

Yes, there are creepy people. It’s literally just people that violate enough social norms in conversation to be off-putting, where you doubt their sincerity.

rfctr · 2023-07-19T21:32:47+00:00

"Creepy" is when a man sexualizes too early, when the woman perceives her SMV as higher than his.

Keep in mind that women find 80% of men unattractive.

This is why we learn Game.

Imscubbabish · 2023-07-19T18:19:31+00:00

Yeah creepy guys exist. Guys who can't take no, sees a drunk girl as a target, why they are like that I have no idea. I have a friend just like this and at one point I saw a woman literally try to get away from him but he kept closing rhe distance she was desperately trying to create

opentou2021 · 2023-07-19T20:27:52+00:00

Then there are the girls who say eww every time any guy looks at her and believes every guy is hitting on her. Ya you are so beautiful and sexy that every male on the planet wants you. Please. I can’t roll my eyes hard enough to express how much this attitude turns me off.

Polengoldur · 2023-07-19T20:59:38+00:00

see every guy you list in your anecdotes (which are not real evidence btw) are guys you would not find attractive due to the circumstances.
if a Man who You thought was Attractive pulled any one of those moves, you'd consider the occurrence differently.

Podzilla07 · 2023-07-20T00:03:32+00:00

Yeah, there are creepy dudes out there

Neville_Neville · 2023-07-20T11:03:10+00:00

Why isn't OP getting downvoted into oblivion here? Because you're all a bunch of simps, that why. Just a bunch of LARPing, beta, cucked simps pretending to know shit about women online. Just close this subreddit down already. It's a pathetic shadow of what it once was.

AaViOnBando · 2023-07-20T14:10:45+00:00

Yes. While most "creeps" are just unattractive men, I have met guys with average to even pretty good looks that say the stupidest, corniest, most weird shit as pickup approaches that immediately signal "stranger danger" in a woman's brain.

It has to do with you frame, tone, the stupid smirk on your face and more..

qunamax · 2023-07-21T01:06:04+00:00

So? You just proved a point by describing what you don't like about them. I didn't catch you writing something like "This cute rich ripped attractive guy in the gym was looking at my ass and I found it really creepy". Men want sex and you want to shame them for their basic nature if you don't find them attractive.

jxjkskkk · 2023-07-21T04:56:55+00:00

Allllll this just to state the blatantly obvious. Yes guys can be creepy. What you listed were good examples.

deadBeefCafe2014 · 2023-07-21T16:15:49+00:00

Your second sentence confirms the first, followed by a full list of examples.

The guy at the store was the least creepy, of all of them. You handled it well.

The old guys are probably the creepiest, but they also care the least. I pray that I don’t succumb to such dementia when I get to that range.

I see this as the largest problematic end result of PUA, in that so many guys are convinced it’s a numbers game and don’t quit.

pbar · 2023-07-19T17:58:49+00:00

Yes. Creepiness is unattractiveness plus trying to mack on women much more attractive than you, and being in too big a hurry about it. Based on the shit I've seen guys, friends of mine, do and say, I'm sure most attractive women have a thousand stories like yours.

My favorite Waffle House waitress came over to me once and said, "I can't stand that guy there. He's always all over me. And just now he offered me $20 if I'd call him "Hon" when he comes in."

The guy was like 65 and so am I. I told her, "If I'm going to give you $20, you're gonna have to be completely naked and covered in pancake syrup."

She laughed, but later I thought that was pretty rude. Why would I bring up pancake syrup in a Waffle House?

Anyway, if guys would just lay back a bit and get to know women, give them a little space before saying anything too outrageous, their interactions would be much more pleasant and rewarding. It's never good to be in a hurry, in this life.

FitnessBabbbe · 2023-07-20T16:47:12+00:00

Another question for the guys that say women only find the top 10-20% of women attractive, that they like "chad", & every other guy is considered by women to be a "creep"... who is an example of these top men then? Cuz at least imo it's not Channing Tatum 🤮 He's too muscular imo but the biggest reason I don't find him attractive is that, to me, his face is ugly & he's got big ears. I'm more of a Chishiya from Alice in Borderland type of girl. Which makes me think the men other men find attractive is what they think women like. 😂 Or maybe I'm just weird. 🤷🏻‍♀️

KirthWGersen · 2023-07-19T21:37:56+00:00

Oh yeah. I've seen them in action!

Social skills are something we all have to learn one way or another.

donaldcargill · 2023-07-20T07:55:06+00:00

Rolo tomasi did a show on this and it was very informative. I would check it out.

AriaRz22 · 2023-07-20T13:15:22+00:00

What the actual fuck...

any mods still alive?

MattyAnon · 2023-07-21T19:49:15+00:00

This post is from a female, so remember that 90% of it is PR and the rest is whining.

Girl - you've got it fucking easy. Quit complaining that the sexual advances you have in abundance are not all from men attractive enough for you.

SteveSan82 · 2023-07-24T05:12:42+00:00

I’m 41 and I cold approach 18-25 year olds quite successfully. I did it while married too. If anything women seemed more interested in me if I told them I was married

Opening_Tell9388 · 2023-07-19T17:37:38+00:00

Creepy guys are just dudes with no money, abs, or social status.

DevilishRogue · 2023-07-19T17:57:39+00:00

This is only funny because it hits so close to home.

NittyGrittyDiscutant · 2023-07-19T18:46:47+00:00

creepy can be everything u don't want

i can easily imagine "Guys asking for a hug & grabbing my ass." being non creepy for some

loz333 · 2023-07-19T19:32:56+00:00

I think with regards to elderly being creepy, I suspect a lot of them are lonely. Many people in the west have completely forgotten about the notion of respecting your elders and looking after them in old age, not to mention the modern toxic lifestyle making them much sicker than they ever were before. Being old in 2023 must be pretty awful. At least most of those men are pretty harmless in terms of what theyre going to actually do. Its the young men that need to learn how to engage a woman properly.

I have a theory, and it's that an approach by a man will appear creepy in proportion to the amount of darkness in their life. We can all see when someone is going through a dark patch, be it with their friends, family, work, substance abuse, unresolved trauma - all sorts of things can be written all over a person's face. And if you've got unresolved issues and youre trying to approach a woman, a) they will likely see it and b) you will probably approach her in an inappropriate way. I dont think perfection is necessary, and I think certain people will attract each other because their unresolved issues complement each other. But if theres some kind of imbalance in that regard, a guy will likely come across as creepy regardless of what he says or does. Because the unresolved issues are influencing his motivations for approaching the woman, she instinctively knows it and wants no part of it.

Guys need to work on themselves and become desirable to women. Really its that straightforward. Perhaps some focus on the physical too much and neglect other areas.

Thekurdishprince · 2023-07-19T21:28:39+00:00

Do they exists? Yes, but they are very rare ! If you listen to women you would think every other guy is a creep which is not real.

You will come across more scary men than creepy men in your lifetime but women use the word to describe unattractive men not actual creeps.

donaldcargill · 2023-07-20T07:58:54+00:00

This subreddit has been ruined. At least we have the side bar

tropicsGold · 2023-07-20T13:34:08+00:00

There is a lot of behavior that is inappropriate and unwanted, if a hot guy did it you might still reject him for it. But people only refer to it as creepy if the guy in ugly. An attractive guy who is married and hits on a girl is a player, maybe a scumbag, but frequently it is a term that is at least somewhat positive. Ugly equals creepy, rapist.

SufficientRange7769 · 2023-07-25T12:42:58+00:00

You proved the point you were trying to argue against. All those guys were old/unattractive. If they looked like Dolph Lundgren from Rocky you would not have seen them as creepy.

Loveenglishpeople · 2023-07-28T15:56:23+00:00

If all of this is true, you must be very pretty. Or tell me how you dress, bc damn, must be exactly what dudes are looking for. I am young, skinny like you and I neveeer get that amount of attention.

I swear they are hitting on you crazy.

RadioPimp · 2023-08-11T06:16:16+00:00

I prefer the term “creeper.” Lmao.

Title	Do you guys think "creepy" guys exist?
Author	FitnessBabbbe
Upvotes	17
Comments	125
Date	July 19, 2023 5:30 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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