Why do women these days want a guy that treats them like sh*t?

Hot-Bookkeeper5277 · 2023-10-22T05:20:05+00:00

It never makes any sense. I got the most girls when I was rolling off Xanax, doing every downer in existence and ignoring them instead of when I was a kind gentleman (keep in mind at the time probably had 1’500 dollars to my name at most times so it makes it even worse cause I had no resources) It’s bizarre contradicting nonsense that never ends, either check out or pray for a trad girl.

RelativisticPeanut · 2023-10-22T08:25:40+00:00

It's not just "these days". Women have always wanted that, they've just gotten far less afraid of broadcasting these interests since there's no one left willing to shame them for it, not even other women.

LittleHamNerd · 2023-10-22T07:53:21+00:00

And then they complain about all men being bad.

designerutah · 2023-10-22T04:40:09+00:00

Some have said it’s because a toxic relationship or treatment gives a bigger dopamine hit and women who are, by nature, attention seekers, become like addicts, needing more and more often. It’s also why they dress like they do and post like they do, some of it is likely due to lack of father in the home who would both validate and check them, plus provide a male role model.

Acrobatic-Fun-3281 · 2023-10-22T13:10:12+00:00

I’ve done parole hearings, been to prisons, and been face-to-face with violent sociopaths. I can personally vouch that far, far more often than not, they have very attractive women vying for their attention. In fact, in my state (one of only four that allows conjugal visits), if I can show that an inmate’s girlfriend makes her way to the prison grounds on the regular for their 15 minutes of fun, I have a better chance of convincing the parole board to let him out.

There is a word for this phenomenon, hybristophilia, and while the cause is unknown, it has been likened to a paraphilia, or a fetish. See https://restore-mentalhealth.com/attraction-to-crime/#:~:text=There's%20no%20single%20reason%20why,to%20account%20for%20the%20phenomenon.

The one thing I will take issue with the OP is, this is not a new phenomenon. As the article mentions, Ted Bundy had a good number of groupies, and it has been going on probably even longer than that.

But, if what I just wrote sounds crazy, trust me, it’s not you

AChromaticHeavn · 2023-10-22T04:10:34+00:00

Most modern women were raised without a dad/male role model. They don't know how a man should treat them. They don't expect respect, and they are unable to give respect, because they were not raised and taught by a dad how to earn and deserve respect.

Otherwise_Amount9854 · 2023-10-22T09:21:10+00:00

And after they get out of that relationship, they'll say "men are trash" and still continue to make fun of nice guys.

KrazyJazz · 2023-10-22T03:59:19+00:00

Depends. Is it a good looking Chad? Somebody with money or social status? Dual mating strategy maybe? Or the only thing she really can afford?

Blackcoffee128 · 2023-10-22T04:08:43+00:00

Women have always been dominated throughout history. Women crave biologically to be put in their place.

For example. A lot of modern women (feminists included) LOVE rough sex. Choking, slapping and lots more. Yes Porn has definitely normalised and increased these things.

Nice and good men often aren’t open to being rough and aggressive.

Also treating them like shit makes them feel like you’re a challenge compared to the desperate thirsty men who always give them free and easy frequent attention!

lpd1snipe · 2023-10-22T12:57:25+00:00

This has been going on for thousands of years throughout recorded history. It's nothing new. This is why the father vetted the prospect husband. The daughter didn't choose. You treat women as equals, they lose interest. They get bored easy. They really are children in adult bodies. They crave a challenge and drama. How many times have you heard the expression, "I can fix him, I can change him."

SecTeff · 2023-10-22T08:00:03+00:00

Because women find dark traits such as dominance and strength and things they would say are ‘toxic masculinity’ sexually attractive.

There is a reason 50 shades sold so well.

Also a reason they are attracted to sleazy guys who are obvious womanisers. I keep saying they enabled people like Russel Brand through their own bad choices and sexual desire.

Women love a bad boy sadly and they need to accept that they enable and encourage bad behaviour in men by sexually selecting men that exhibit it.

This is the reason the school bully in high school who went around lumping people also tended to have women.

Frird2008 · 2023-10-22T12:15:32+00:00

Papa issues

IAPiratesFan · 2023-10-22T16:29:56+00:00

Because it’s a license to tread men like shit. It looks justified if he’s terrible to his SO. She looks like a bitch if the guy treats her well.

kellykebab · 2023-10-22T16:44:46+00:00

Treating a girl well ≠ treating her as an "equal"

(necessarily)

Women like it when the man is confident, assertive, and (often) dominant. This does not necessarily mean abusive, by any means.

But it can.

So some women like "abusive" men. But not all women and not all the time. And not necessarily to settle down with.

They just don't like weak men. And weak men prioritize "equality." Stronger men can maintain leadership and frame in a relationship without being overtly abusive. It's not an easy tightrope to walk, but it is possible.

baby_budda · 2023-10-22T05:39:01+00:00

Like Quagmire?

Family Guy

habbo311 · 2023-10-22T14:24:51+00:00

Low self esteem, self hatred

neveragoodtime · 2023-10-22T14:25:06+00:00

Why do you think women want a man who treats them like an equal? They want a man who will serve them and they’re looking for six foot muscular men who make six figures, and treat them like a queen. Men like that are so obviously using them for sex it’s incredible they can’t see that.

Mountain_Collar_7620 · 2023-10-22T18:05:41+00:00

You’ve removed all social and religious constraints and put a backup slut support system of police medicine and social media.

Welcome To The Jungle !*

Till the electricity goes or the (actual) Barbarians arrive

Saerain · 2023-10-22T19:23:46+00:00

These days?

bullmetalblackmoon · 2023-10-22T19:33:02+00:00

Cause they are bitches

avoidingpsychos · 2023-10-22T22:12:22+00:00

I'm guessing you're still in high school, college, or maybe in your 20s based on your post...

Women at those ages want something and someone who is exciting... A lot of sexually active younger woman also have a drive to lure and connect with guys who have accomplished something, have some clout, have cool hobbies, or any hint of "fame." A lot of times, guys like that are putting themselves first — above anything else — and are fairly cutthroat about their goals, but can also be brash and abrasive towards other people (including women). It's just part of the chase for younger women.

By the time women are in their early-mid 30s, they will be in full "boss babe" mode and now put themselves on a pedestal and have absurdly high expectations because they feel they've "earned" it or are "worth" it or "deserve" it. They treat most relationships like they're disposable and will just churn through guys. Then by their late 30s and early 40s, women want a guy who will essentially be an indentured servant. Someone who is more or less their personal cheerleader and doormat.

ConsistentPicture583 · 2023-10-22T22:25:09+00:00

As soon as you treat them as equals, they automatically know that you are a Simp.

You have to treat them like the entitled children that they behave as, and praise them when they act like a grown-up.

That’s when they know that you are a man

aBlackKing · 2023-10-22T22:31:13+00:00

They’re free to make whatever decisions they want and reap the consequences.

Nihi1986 · 2023-10-23T01:25:14+00:00

Those guys tend to be better looking...

IceCorrect · 2023-10-22T09:50:02+00:00

Lizard brain. Just like men go for bad bitches

Far-Salt-6946 · 2023-10-22T13:31:02+00:00

Biology. Women don't want equals, they view it as weakness from a man. Women want men who are better than them, it's been that way for all of history, it's not something that started with modern women.

jas4870 · 2023-10-22T14:40:55+00:00

These days? Been that way for as long as I can remember. A woman will give up a loyal, average looking man to be with a man that will leave her a single mother.

Cr4ckSm0ker · 2023-10-22T04:16:23+00:00

lmfao some women grew up in shitty households and that is their idea of a stable relationship. to get a girl in the first place she has to find you attractive

SuspiciousGrievances · 2023-10-22T06:12:39+00:00

They are attracted to those qualities because evolution favors the brutes.

Busy_Pilot_6030 · 2023-10-22T08:52:13+00:00

So that they dont have to take any responsibilty and forever act as a victim whenever she gets the opportunity, a women being a victim gets huge benefits compared to be responsible women.

PUMA-420 · 2023-10-22T09:01:40+00:00

Any guy who treats a woman as his "equal" doesn't understand hypergamy and then people why wonder nice guys finish last.

Valus22 · 2023-10-22T05:26:02+00:00

Because being treated like shit is exciting, and being happy is boring. When you’re being treated like shit you have something to look forward to, when you’re happy and content with life, you have nothing to look forward to anymore. Note, the guy also has to be over 6 feet, have a big dick, and not be autistic and many more.

WoodTreeFrog · 2023-10-22T10:08:16+00:00

There are a lot of answers to this question.

1- Men lie about who they are

2- Men don't realize whet they are doing that harms women

3- Women are not use to being respected so when they are respected, they run away

4- Women who want to fix someone (a desire that stems from a maternal desire to raise someone) will stay with a toxic man

5- Bad Men kill or abuse women when the woman wants to leave a relationship. This very real fear keeps women from leaving relationships with men who will ultimately leave them if she wants it but will be angry and verbally abusive while doing so. -That anger and verbal abuse can often trick a woman into staying because out of fear.

6- A lot more I can say it I don't want to as I live my happy single life solo traveling as an AFAB non-binary person who dgaf about marrying anyone.

Normal_Machine4548 · 2023-10-22T05:05:08+00:00

How many people go on dates and say their ex was wonderful...I feel expressing how shit ex relationships were make people feel sorry for others ... whe most of the time it takes 2 to argue

fatganer1991 · 2023-10-22T19:20:20+00:00

It was always like that, women want abusive psychopath Chad. Read about Hybristophilia, recently there was a case when in Israel womens was suspended from working in prisons cause they slept with prisoners

Additional_Insect_44 · 2023-10-22T11:33:01+00:00

Some do some don't.

I think it's a mix of the old "rough and tough, adventure seeking" man from old, who went and provided and defended, and possibly a cruddy household.

Fritzbox5000 · 2023-10-22T13:03:58+00:00

Women in general like confidence. It doesn't matter if this confidence is used to abuse her. Confidence is the only thing that matters for her.

Sisstasia · 2023-10-22T13:49:04+00:00

Women don't want a guy who treats them like shit.

BKEnjoyerV2 · 2023-10-22T17:07:54+00:00

Because being treated like shit often signifies the traditionally masculine traits many women often want subconsciously

ThisTimeForRealYo · 2023-10-22T18:03:53+00:00

They don’t actively pick those men. It’s not like the guy says: Oh, btw. I’m abusive. Physically and mentally.

Then the girl going: sign me up!

TracyMorganFreeman · 2023-10-22T20:02:16+00:00

Women want to be challenged like any other person, and young women see no other challenge except in relationships, plus there's plenty of simps that they think is the norm and boring.

michaelpaoli · 2023-10-22T10:03:56+00:00

Why do women these days want a guy that treats them like sh*t?

They don't. But some think they do and/or are drawn to that (even if/when they don't realize it).

Some also go for the "tough guy" ... not realizing (or caring?) that there's a huge difference between tough, and an abusive piece of sh*t.

Tshepo28 · 2023-10-22T08:15:12+00:00

I think porn also plays a role here. Modern porn is just fucked up. It ruins young people

wolfeye111 · 2023-10-22T08:08:33+00:00

it's so healthy and accurate when you generalize 50% of the population (like 4 billion people)

MrAnonPoster · 2023-10-22T11:24:37+00:00

They do not. It is a dumb trope offered and clung to by loser men

The reality is that every "nice guy" is a needy boring dude with a personality of a wet noodle sucking the life out of every room he enters. Between that and an asshole she will gamble with an asshole

Emotional-Rhubarb725 · 2023-10-22T15:21:16+00:00

Why don't you try to help them? You could start by treating women around you gently so they know the difference

Stand_kicker · 2023-10-22T07:00:11+00:00

They don't.

Did you get rejected. Not a sub to hate women.

Shelton26 · 2023-10-22T14:39:23+00:00

This is a “nice guy” level post man

United_Illustrator_5 · 2023-10-22T17:02:02+00:00

Those women you speak of are not all women. They must have low self-esteem, because I would never want a person who would treat me like crap.

THEpassionOFchrist · 2023-10-22T20:37:30+00:00

It ain't just "these days" brother.

Title	Why do women these days want a guy that treats them like sh*t?
Author	OpeningVermicelli405
Upvotes	95
Comments	77
Date	October 22, 2023 3:52 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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