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44% Of American Men SUICIDAL, Two-Thirds Say "No One Knows Me"

Arealgeneral23

March 3, 2024
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Title 44% Of American Men SUICIDAL, Two-Thirds Say "No One Knows Me"
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Arealgeneral23

Upvotes 790
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Date March 3, 2024 12:24 AM UTC
(2 years ago)
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Comments

[–]Hopeless0341 258 points259 points260 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

, men have been getting abused mentally from society for ages

[–]Royal_Ad4792 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

From women. Especially. Seriously there needs to be a bigger deal made of women mentally abusing because not only do they get away with it, when the man lashes out, he's done for it.

[–]Hopeless0341 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Now they use the Facebook group AWDTSG to further damage mens mental health when did women lose empathy? It’s all sad

[–]drunkandbroke999 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When did women lose empathy? A portion of Women have always been narcissistic sociopathic just like men have but when it comes to damaging mental health women are the masters of it

[–]Rasollia 247 points248 points249 points 2 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

A man is told to express himself. He is told that toxic masculinity is why he cannot express himself, because he is trapped by harmful gender norms.

So then he expresses himself, and is called a misogynistic incel.

[–]Lonewolf_087 71 points72 points73 points 2 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

And reality says “here is a frustrated man who is trying to figure out how to be accepted by others in seemingly unfavorable conditions ”. Society instead calls him “Incel”, “Creep” , “Neckbeard” “Mouth breather”. The more you speak the more you are ignored so it seems.

“You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth”

[–]SarahC 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I WANT ANSWERS!

I think I'm entitled!

[–]Mr-Cali 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I told people close to me how i felt. They told me to stop being dramatic and man up. Last time i open up my feelings to them. 🥲

[–]Fluffy-Advance 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here brother but youve got bros like me man bros before hoes

[+]MarjieJ98354 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As a women, when I was younger I was always told to suck it up. If I didn't "suck it up" I was threatened to be committed to a mental institution. I needed to provide a life for myself, so I didn't have time to be committed. I eventually got on antidepressant and went to therapy for a while. Now I only use antidepressants and suck things up. Now that I'm older I'm in not give a fuck mode and only live for myself. The only difference between women and men is that women will take antidepressants and men won't!

[–]Johntoreno 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The only difference between women and men is that women will take antidepressants and men won't!

Not that i believe your story, but just because you were told to suck it up and treated like shit throughout life doesn't mean that's the default experience of most women.

[–]Mr-Cali 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m sorry you went through all that sister. I hope you are at a better place. You deserve happiness as much as the next person.

[–]geon2k2 180 points181 points182 points 2 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Not only that it is not celebrated but "International men day" overlaps with "world toilet day", due to one of the most anti-men organization on earth the UN.

international men day.

world toilet day

That clearly states the world opinion on men.

[–]Inevitable_Dark3225 103 points104 points105 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Damn dude. We can't even get our own day without it overlapping with something else...imagine international womens day overlapping with world dishwashing day.

[–]NohoTwoPointOh 21 points22 points23 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Is there a world dishwashing day?

If not…

[–]SarahC 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not a guy, but I'm ALL FOR this!

It can then be pointed out about the toilet day....

I think the two should be embraced.

Men doing the physical stuff (toilet unblocking, etc..), women doing the house stuff. (dishwashing)

=D

[–]mostlydisposeable 44 points45 points46 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Dick move from the UN, but honestly I don't mind it.

  • Most Sanitation workers are men.
  • The toilet + sewer is the most important medical innovation of all time. It's saved hundreds of millions of lives.
  • Sanitation is the overlooked yet equally important half of water infrastructure. Just like mens issues are the equally important yet irrationally derided counterpart to womens issues.

It's kind of fitting, I'll wear the proverbial badge with pride.

[–]NibblyPig 13 points14 points15 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bless, you think that they'll be addressing the issues of men in sanitation

[–]geon2k2 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

:) Thats true. There is a book "a world without men" by Aaron Clarey. Just found about it and listened a small portion of it on yt, and it was exactly about sanitation. He was saying that because there is a very small number of women working in this field the number of toilets will be extremly low with queues longer than the bread queues in comunist times, making them impractical, as nobody can hold it for that long. So he was saying that the only option was for everybody to do its stuff all around the place.

[–]SarahC 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If water runs out...... toilets turn to shit in a day.
Same if sanitation stops.

People will be dying of all those infectious diseases from crapping in the same water they gather from the rain for drinks...

[–]ChocolateNo484 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s wild I didn’t even know that. That’s like some subliminal brainwashing shit.

[–]Da_Famous_Anus 104 points105 points106 points 2 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

This response is awful as well. Blame the ‘manosphere’ and recommend men do all the work and change. Women can keep being how they are, apparently.

[–]Slight-Rent-883 27 points28 points29 points 2 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

too true. Previous account got banned because of stuff like that. It's why it's amusing how when I am "respectful" the responders are anything but respectful but get a free pass

[–]TopProfessional3295 13 points14 points15 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, the reddit mods are simps super hardcore

[–]Slight-Rent-883 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Even saying that a man has to lead and a woman follow is ban worthy somehow 

[–]TopProfessional3295 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Whomever has the better leadership skills and style for the objective should lead. It's not a gendered thing.

[–]untamed-italian 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While this is correct, good luck to any dudes trying to maintain a healthy sex life in a heterosexual monogamous relationship without being a leader.

[–]Slight-Rent-883 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s fair but I swear men are still expected to lead? I agree though

[–]TopProfessional3295 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Definitely, men are expected to lead. Which ironically leads to developing leadership skills from a young age, leading to men usually having the most relevant skill.

[–]Impossible-Age-3302 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh, it should be an equal partnership, aka you both lead. But I guess it would depend on the relationship either way.

[–]RemoteRegister9106 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They’re all perfect tens, as pure as eve and with the beauty of cleopatra or so I’ve been told

[–]fodargh 57 points58 points59 points 2 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

We need to support each other more. Let’s help a brother out. Get them in your social circle or club or hobby

[–]Spins13 12 points13 points14 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

That is like saying that the victims should get together and support each other. It is not a bad idea. However, the priority should be stopping the crimes and the aggressors

[–]fodargh 17 points18 points19 points 2 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I believe you are interpreting this in a way I did not intend. My comment is not meant to diminish, discredit or invalidate the root causes.
I’m very lonely myself at the moment and have a crumbling marriage. However I do know I could be more open to other men that feel that way and be a support. Being supportive is not addressing a lot of the social or cultural issues. Yet I do know that taking a step might made the moment or day or a bigger difference for someone else. All I’m trying is to encourage others to take a step and try you help someone out.

[–]gothruthis 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Planning a weekly or even monthly meet up with men around you-- neighbors, coworkers, whoever --to play golf or soccer, or even just grab a drink at local sports bar, can be really helpful.

[–]fodargh 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I agree

[+]Murakami8000 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry to hear you’re having a hard time. Marriage is tough.

[–]mr_j_12 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The irony is men did this in Australia. Had a bbq together in a park on international mens day. Families there. Feminists and their supporters showed up to protest the toxic masculinity in it. Starting arguments and shit.

[–]SarahC 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Part of the problem is bro's don't share shit. It's opening a person up to manipulation and ridicule.

True or not, that's what kids learn (from brothers, bullies, etc..)

[–]Roamer56 41 points42 points43 points 2 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

We are definitely in the latter days of the American empire.

[–]Vegetable_Ad1732 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It can still be saved. Alls we need is a series of elections to go the right way. Of course, they could also go the wrong way.

[–]SpicyTigerPrawn 34 points35 points36 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've looked at both sides and it seems pretty clear that neither party genuinely cares about men falling behind. That's the problem with a two-party presidential system.

[–]Vegetable_Ad1732 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OK, apparently I have to spell everything out. First of all, I was talking big scale - saving the USA, not just through the Men's Rights lens. Secondly, this is not about Democrats vs Republicans, it's about Populists vs the Establishment. The People need to take their country back. Parts of the Republican Party is where the Populists are. But certainly not all Republicans are Populists.

Now, that's big scale. Now, to the Men's Rights. No one is this discussion is solidly pro-Men's Rights, but the Populists are at least not woke, they don't lecture men about Patriarchy and call us all rapist oppressors. There is more, but I'm not writing a treatise here, just a comment.

[–]ChocolateNo484 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No politicians seems to care about men’s mental health. Only person I saw was rfk but he’s more focus on stopping mass shootings.

[–]mr_j_12 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Zionists do not want it saved. Aa for elections, heh.

[–]untamed-italian 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It can still be saved

No it can't. We passed the high water mark decades ago. We passed the point of a stable step-down from hegemonic power with the Trump admin.

Barring some kind of miracle, collapse is the future. It's just a question of whether it will be slow decline or catastrophic implosion.

Alls we need is a series of elections to go the right way.

There is no 'right way' available to our electoral process. The US election system is only capable of delivering two brands of self destructive delusion. You are waiting at the bottom of a sewer system telling yourself the pipes will one day drop ambrosia on you instead of liquid shit.

It's only liquid shit on the menu going forward man.

[–]Vegetable_Ad1732 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree with your comment, but at least you got what I was talking about. Everyone else here thought I was talking only about Men's Rights.

[–]Vegetable_Ad1732 38 points39 points40 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Don't get suicidal, get angry. Not the get violent kind of angry. The kind of angry that makes you look out for #1. Find something; a career, hobby, charity, something to focus your life on. The only people you should focus on are those who really love you, and unless you're lucky, in today's environment, that's probably limited to some family members, and maybe a few good friends. Nobody else really counts. Make your life good. Ignore society's treaties about romantic love, that's just manipulation. Avoid guilt over being a male, you have nothing to feel guilty about. Feel comfortable in your own skin.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

People can’t just decide not to be suicidal. No one chooses to be like that.

[–]RoryTate 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think what the person you are responding to is saying is best summed up with the medical adage: "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.". There are many habits that form better mental health in men, and that can stop a non-suicidal man from becoming ill, or help stop a slide into an even worse situation for those starting down that path. However, it is important to realize that this advice does not magically fix those who are at that stage, so perhaps it would promote better understanding to clearly state the limited target group for these suggestions.

[–]Wheekie 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was born neuroatypical. Can confirm I certainly did not choose to be born this way.

[–]Vegetable_Ad1732 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The OP says 44% of men are suicidal. That means we're not talking about deep psychological issues, we're talking about depression induced by our circumstances. Social problems driving men to depression. And changing one's outlook can very much impact that.

[–]Cursory_Lawlessness 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's a little more complicated than that.

To the point that the FBI and Treasury dept are telling banks to start tracking certain purchases from outfitter chains like Cabela's, Bass Pro, and Academy sports. It's not a conspiracy. Trust me, they are very aware that they might have a national anger issue on their hands in the coming years, and it's not the good kind of angry.

Gun sales are skyrocketing, there's a huge disparity in suicide rates, military recruitment levels are the lowest they've ever been, not to mention the huge popularity in the Andrew Tates and JPs and all of the other malecentric influencers out there. The media will inevitably call it a rise in "right wing extremism", but we all know it's much more than politics.

Angry men with nothing to lose are by far the most dangerous threat to a society.

[–]Rogueslasher 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Time to invest more money into women studies with this new revelation.

[–]Vegetable_Ad1732 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

🤣

[–]klafhofshi 24 points25 points26 points 2 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

For anyone here who is feeling down on themselves because of a lack of romantic love, you can find happiness and meaning in life in other places.

Please read The Menu: Life Without the Opposite Sex, which offers a lot of suggestions for fulfilling hobbies and activities.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

My problem seems to have nothing to do romance. I mean you can’t really have a problem with it if you have no love life. Mine seems to be family and betrayal. Oh I always say I am okay with being alone, but who am I kidding. We are human, we are not meant to be alone. I can’t wait for my life to change this lonely hole I’ve grown up in my whole life is too suffocating.

And why are all my friends online friends? It’s so hard to find like minded people in person and draining at that. Constantly being stood up and expected to do all the work when they can’t even have the decency to show up on time (30 min to an hour later💀).

[–]klafhofshi 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Like The Menu suggests, you could join a fraternal order, a hobby club, or sports.

Or you can find something on meetup.com.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Fraternal order? What’s that?

[–]klafhofshi 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Fraternities that are organized as orders often with awards, offices, and rituals. They have local chapters called "lodges". Fraternal orders tend to perform community charity, provide for mutual benefit between members, and/or be social clubs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_order

Prominent examples include The Elks, The Lions, and The Oddfellows. All of the aforementioned fraternal orders have 100,000s of members and 1,000s of lodges.

[–]ChocolateNo484 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wait I thought fraternities were only for people in colllege

[–]klafhofshi 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Those are collegic fraternities (aka "Greek Life"), which are social clubs. There are also academic fraternities that tend be national or international.

Fraternal orders recruit outside of educational circumstances.

[–]ChocolateNo484 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had no idea good to know

[–]SpicyHoneyBanana 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“Be a man! Man up! Don’t be a p_ssy!”

[–]espositojoe 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How is that possible? 44 percent?

[–]ChocolateNo484 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean life in general is hard, now imagine guys who lost their kids, were victim of psychological or domestic violence but no one heard them, and so much more. It’s definitely possible, in fact 44% seems like a realistic number.

[+]KZ4018229MNL279BR169 -15 points-14 points-13 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s not, it’s BS

[–]wordjedi 12 points13 points14 points 2 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Sorry but defining "healthy masculinity" as a to-do list of men leaning in to be even MORE of service to their families and communities is just wrong.

Yes, do good for others in the world. Everyone should, regardless of gender. But defining men by what loads they can pull for others is just wrong. No wonder men are having problems if they believe this bullshit.

Remember Maslow's Pyramid? That's a better template for a well lived life if you want something complicated.

But again, that applies to women too. In my opinion what makes men special is building themselves and their works. BE BETTER than you were last year or last decade. Not just morally better, be smarter, stronger, more skilled in as many ways as you can. Achieve mastery in all your pursuits.

I know there might be women here who will rush in with, "oh yeah, well that applies to women too!" but it doesn't, not as much and not in the same way. Both women and men are born as little kids and the world looks after them and provides for them, but then from puberty on their paths are quite different. An even mildly cute young woman is the apple of everyone's eye, just as she was as a child. A man starts at zero when he becomes a young adult. After that it's build and build and build. That's healthy masculinity.

Thanks for reading my rant

tl;dr Both men and women should do good deeds for others, but the challenge for men is to always be better at all of life's challenges than they were before. Women can do that too, but it's different.

[+]Murakami8000 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think that idea of actively trying to be better in your pursuits every year is admirable but also not sustainable. We age. We decline. Shit happens. There comes a point where it’s not physically or mentally even possible to be better. So there has to be some room in there for acceptance of ourselves as we are.

[–]wordjedi 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My brother, I don't mean everybody has to lift weights, fight MMA, and get software engineering degrees to earn six figures. There should be no narrow path of checkboxes that every man has to follow to be a "real man".

Somebody right here in this subreddit might be a hikikomori and spend his days painting Warhammer figures, getting better and better every year. At first a sloppy mess, then later tiny works of art. Then post photos (if he chooses) and be legitimately admired by his peers.

It's up to each of us to decide where to excel. It doesn't matter if it matters to someone else, just you. You don't have to be young, or beautiful, or athletic, etc.

[–]Johntoreno 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Sorry but defining "healthy masculinity" as a to-do list of men leaning in to be even MORE of service to their families and communities is just wrong.

Not that i agree with defining "healthy" masculinity in the first place but i prefer this over your vague hyper-individualist idea of men "building themselves". Humans are Social animals and we're motivated by our impact on the people around us far more than our narcissistic fixation on self-improvement, advising men to become involved in people's lives around them is actually sound advice as it anchors men to the world and gives them motivation to live.

[–]wordjedi -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

advising men people to become involved in people's lives around them is actually sound advice

If you broaden that to a recommendation for all people regardless of gender, then I agree.

quoting myself:

Yes, do good for others in the world. Everyone should, regardless of gender.

The problem when you're considering "what is healthy masculinity?" is either men themselves may set the bar at being the meanest, biggest, baddest MFer on the planet, who could beat up the UFC heavyweight champ - nobody can, that's why he's the champ..

Or else you get a female agenda for men of things like being a good husband, provider, father, nurturer, fighting and dying in wars to protect your country, and laboring until old age at the hardest, most dangerous and dirty jobs to produce for the economy. I guess while we're single, women would want us to keep fit and be well groomed, dress fashionably, be a good dancer, be romantic and give tasteful expensive gifts, etc. etc. Basically be a Ken doll.

Women would have us believe masculinity is all about doing things that make their lives better, often at the expense of our own quality of life. Women are not experts on masculinity - actually the last people you should ask. They're describing the most exploited man, not the most masculine.

We could turn that around and talk about all the things that women should do to be the perfect girlfriends and later wives (be sexy, be nice, cook and clean and do childcare forever without complaining), and suggest they have failed as women if they don't do them. Every feminist would tell you that's a Stepford wife, but I would argue their idea of a "masculine, but not toxic masculine" man is simply a useful one (to them).

There is another way besides either violence or sacrificing and working yourself into an early grave for women, which I attempted to describe above. It doesn't in any way prevent men from having families or serving their communities.

[–]Johntoreno 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Masculinity is an ideal to strive towards, its not supposed to be achievable by everyone. There's nothing wrong with the traditional masculine ideal, seeking the strength to weather the challenges in life is something all men can relate to and strive towards. We're never going to be like our favorite athletes but we still relate to them because we see them struggle&overcome crazy odds and we want to do that too, in our lives.

[–]Njaulv 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny because I only hear about how women are less happy now than decades ago, but never how men are doing outside of MRA spaces.

[–]stent00 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men killing them Selves while women most affected

[–]habbo311 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women don't care. It's utterly impossible for a narcissist to care about anything that doesn't directly benefit them. Legalize prostitution in America today

[–]IronJohnMRA 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.equimundo.org/

Website for org that did the study.

N.B. Not an endorsement. Reference only.

[–]AmuseDeath 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow this is actually covered by a somewhat popular news channel. Amazing.

[–]Illustrious_Bus9486 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It is because boys are not being raised to be men.

[–]Arealgeneral23[S] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hate when they say that shit

[+]jesusisracist -10 points-9 points-8 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

44% of men are not suicidal, bro.

[–]slade323 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yet!!

I'm not being an ass, i really used to believe the numbers were overblown. Now I think they are vastly underreported.

[–]jesusisracist 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So, the chances of either you or me being suicidal is very, very high.

[–]slade323 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes

[+]KZ4018229MNL279BR169 -6 points-5 points-4 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Getting downvoted for straight up saying facts. I love this sub, but can we please stop with this garbage? Like nearly half of American men are suicidal? Lmao give me a break. Im just as passionate as the next guy for mens issues, but making up statistics completely ruins the integrity of the cause.

[+]KZ4018229MNL279BR169 -7 points-6 points-5 points 2 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Though I completely agree with the sentiment, and suicide rates are at an all time high amongst men,, nearly half of American men are not actively suicidal… the video claims suicidal THOUGHTS. Clickbaiting the title with a misrepresentation of the actual data ruins the integrity of this sub

Edit: if you actually believe 44% of American men are actively suicidal you NEED to get off the internet because your brain is rotting in real time.

[–]ChocolateNo484 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

what do you think suicidal means ? If you have suicidal thoughts you probably feel suicidal. Doesn’t that make you suicidal ? This is why when you see a psychiatrist the first thing they ask you is are you having suicidal thoughts. They are trying to gage if you’ll jump off a cliff anytime soon. There’s no way you consider men suicidal at the point of an attempt.

[+]Murakami8000 -9 points-8 points-7 points 2 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Having thoughts doesn’t make one actively suicidal. There is a difference between suicidal ideation and actually being suicidal. I think when a therapist asks that question and they get a yes answer they will probe deeper to find out how active a threat one is to themselves. Of course both should be taken seriously, but there is a difference and I don’t think it’s just semantics.

[–]ChocolateNo484 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fair point but it’s still a problem

[+]Murakami8000 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For sure. Definitely do not want to diminish it.

[–]KastroFidel111 -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That number is too high. I don't think it's 44%

[+]Shoogilybeauty -27 points-26 points-25 points 2 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is what happens when you spend all day looking at a screen. You don’t have friends and you get disconnected. Men think that can be playing their tower defense games and be connected to their family at the same time and that’s incorrect.

I don’t pity men. Pick your hard, bruhs

[–]jwd1187 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody asked

[–]ThisGuyCrohns 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hate to break it to you, but it’s not related to video games. And actually, video games is an outlet for some, otherwise this stat should be much higher.

[–]Billmacia 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A feminist proving once again why men shouldn't follow this mysandrist cult that lack self refletion.

[–]Panskilicious 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This clown again 🤡

[–]ChocolateNo484 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Go fix your problems with your husband and stop coming on the internet and spreading hate. You’re over 40 years old. Wtf are you doing with you’re life.

[–]Accomplished_Run_429 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How about if we spent more time with people and less with devices? No matter what we think a device cannot love us.

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