how is an average man disadvantaged in dating?

Se7ens_up · 2022-07-19T03:05:02+00:00

Yes and no. If you want to pull a very attractive girl then yes youll have to be a top guy and top option in HER Eyes.

However what she views as a top guy is completely subjective to her. And thats not only limited to looks or status. Confidence, how well your personalities mesh, whether you view yourself as worthy of her. All of that matters as well. To one girl you may be a 5, to another a 10.

Improve what you can and dont worry about what you cant control.

iluvreddit · 2022-07-19T02:25:03+00:00

For causal sex yes. For “serious relationships” no.

Erbium-Oxide · 2022-07-19T03:36:02+00:00

There’s always something to be insecure about.

My looks are one of the few avenues where I’m confident I can beat most men. I’m still insecure about getting a good career, material stuff, my inexperience, and being socially inept, to name a few.

The best attitude is “sucks to suck, I’ll give it a whirl anyway”.

Calamity__Bane · 2022-07-19T02:08:09+00:00

grindforthegold · 2022-07-19T02:30:29+00:00

I think it depends. If you meet in person you can probably pull a girl 1-2 points above you. more than that id say it would just be luck

more realistically, you will be able to pull without too much trouble girls 1-2 points below online

people tend to, and i say tend cuz it’s not always the case, but tend to want to date people at their looks level or higher

P7o7s7t7a7l · 2022-07-19T04:42:14+00:00

No. Most people who aren't a complete package have to try harder in the areas they are lacking. They can still get the girls if they work on themselves.

A surprising number of very attractive women don't always enjoy the company of what I would consider to be a top tier guy. I think when it comes to material worth it is more attractive to them wether they admit it or not.

Hortos · 2022-07-19T03:58:19+00:00

If you're concerned go make more money. Money can offset skill the same way education can offset work experience. Women aren't as physically focused as men, they are, just not to our levels. Its why you have guys with moderate beer bellies or dad bods with women who go to the gym constantly. You can probably pull your level or 1 or 2 points higher and if you have above average money add a point.

eszibit · 2022-07-19T09:06:27+00:00

There's a lot of misinformation around.

Online, yeah, you need to be really good since women compare you to the first profiles they see, and those are the top 5% guys. So in their minds is abundance of good looking wealthy guys, now only if she would find the right one...

But live, in person, it's much easier. But you do have to have some game/charisma, not be fat - skinny/normal/a bit lean is fine, and be nice without being a pushover

KrystalAthena · 2022-07-19T23:04:15+00:00

Being average is the normal advantage I'd say

Only disadvantaged if they have shitty attitudes, low self esteem, negative mindsets, etc

DontTakePeopleSrsly · 2022-07-19T03:13:27+00:00

No, because most 7/8 women think they’re 5/6 women.

sparklingwinepapi92 · 2022-07-19T16:12:29+00:00

I wouldn't consider myself in the top 10% of male attractiveness, yet I've had no problem pulling 8's and even 9's.

killertomato · 2022-07-19T06:31:07+00:00

I’m 35 and I’m dating a 26 year old and a 24 year old…. Actually the 26 year old and I just fuck. Getting out of the bedroom to actually hang out has been a “problem”. Rofl. And there’s like an infinite supply of young hot sexually frustrated women. I had long shitty relationships with 7s when I was 28 because I was fat and balding and wore glasses and had basically zero confidence. Then I started making way more money, focused on diet and exercise, got lasik, shaved my head, and through working out consistently for years and running my business gained tons of confidence. Also I now have a 6 pack year round and I look awesome naked. Found out the other day this girl has me in her phone as “big d*ck daddy”. So ummm…. I thought I was just unattractive and unloveable until I started loving myself. Taking care of myself. Treating myself right. Now I know my value and girls see it instantly. I don’t take shit from girls anymore either. I used to be a little bitch and couldn’t take confrontation. Now if a girl is wearing something unflattering I’ll tell her, or if she gives me shit I give it right back. Had a girl naked half a bottle of scotch deep with a buttplug in her ass the other day try and start testing me with crazy bitch mode. I told her she could take the schizo bullshit outside because that’s where I was gonna throw her ass if she kept it up. She ate that shit up and gave some speech about how most guys are pussies and then I fucked her in the ass. I would n e v e r have had the balls to deal with that shit a few years ago. My family thinks I’m smoking crack in a sex dungeon nobody understands my lifestyle anymore lol. I am living my teenage selfs dream life. It feels awesome. The best part is every one of these girls will fuck me, treat me like gold, and if I’m an asshole they’ll still fuck me. If I’m nice they want to fuck me and have my babies and marry me. It’s not one or the other anymore. I’m sure I’ll get tired of this shit eventually? Maybe? But I feel like I’m making up for having mediocre 20s in my 30s. So to answer your question I don’t think you need to be in the top of anything but yourself. If you are someone you have respect for girls see that. Top 10% isn’t some bullshit looks thing it’s about self respect.

dheidjdedidbe · 2022-07-19T02:47:16+00:00

Yes. If you want to attract girls you need to be in the top 5%. Otherwise you will only get a girl when your 40 and they are desperate enough to go for average to above average guys

Snakehead004 · 2022-07-19T02:39:47+00:00

What, no. Top 10% gets top 10-30% or so I'd say...

incognito3107 · 2022-07-19T06:27:49+00:00

You need to stand out from the crowd. Nowadays, there is no problem for girls to "farm" good looking males for dates, so you should be one of them and something more to get their attention. I believe most average men have many things to improve to eventually get some successes in their dating life.

Fluffy_Risk9955 · 2022-07-19T08:46:52+00:00

Yes, women only look at the top 10%. By the way top 10% is based on attitude mostly.

And most men are domesticated to the point they’re behaving like a good boy and do as they’re told.

CocoBabeNYC · 2022-07-19T11:05:01+00:00

I mean it's a miracle that most man have managed to have sex or that the human race has survived for millions of years and what not wjth those pesky women not wanting to have sex with anyone.

Traditional_Fan1084 · 2022-07-21T17:15:28+00:00

Absolutely not. The more you talk to women the more you realize they don’t care if you make 6 figures, are 6ft tall, or have a 6 pack. Attraction is all subjectivity, as long as you’re not a douche you can attract anyone. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder lol

Title	how is an average man disadvantaged in dating?
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Date	July 19, 2022 2:07 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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