There's so much PUA material out there what would you rank as the MUST-reads/watch?

ThrowawayPUA · 2012-03-20T18:00:38+00:00

I'll avoid the lengthy seminar DVD materials and focus on immediately accessible free materials. I am constantly recommending the following YouTube videos in answer to questions, they are the most useful tools I know of, with the highest impact on what you can do NOW.

How To Kino 10 parts, I think about 45 minutes. Basic lessons on "Kino Escalation," how to make a woman comfortable and attracted by your touch.

Lovedrop's Kino Demo I think this is 6 parts of about an hour. This is Mystery Method kino coaching from Lovedrop, with comments by Mystery.

Gambler - The Formula for Night Game. An 80 minute lecture of extremely valuable approach and attraction techniques using body language. These techniques apply everywhere, not just night game. A live demo with a woman appears at about 27 minutes in, and there's a very valuable Q&A at the end. Watch this one all the way through. Watch it several times.

These are all materials that will improve your game immediately.

ThrowawayPUA · 2012-03-20T19:34:48+00:00

The book "Magic Bullets" is essential background material. It deals with a lot of canned routines but has plenty of useful material if you don't want to use canned routines. Useful for understanding the structure of a seduction using the M3 model (plus the new Qualification stage).

For seminar videos, I like Sinn's "Seduction Roadmap," "Real Secrets of Natural Attraction," and "Complete Day Game From A to Z Mastery Program."

The "Vin DiCarlo Escalation Ladder" is essential basic material. You can get it on his website free. I also like his "Pandora's Box" material, but it is more advanced material and unlikely to be useful to beginners.

"What Every BODY Is Saying" is an essential book on body language.

"Conquer Your Campus" is well regarded in college circles. I can't assess it because I am long out of college.

Lots of guys like "Rules of The Game" by Neil Strauss. It is a 30 day step by step system. I think it starts at a very basic level, assuming that you have no ability to approach people at all. This might seem too basic for some people, but you have to start at the beginning, to do his system. Note that this is his instructional manual, "The Game" is a novel and not intended for instructional use.

I like BANG by RooshV. He's kind of a dick, but the book is good, basic material and fairly comprehensive.

Books by David Burns are often suggested. "Feeling Good" deals with getting over your neuroses and fixing your inner game. "Intimate Connections" deals with seduction topics. Neither of these books use the jargon or techniques of the seduction community, although they are very much alike. So a lot of people like this book even if they don't like the seduction community.

Nine Ball by Jeffy (of RSD) is a hilarious book and is a good lesson for guys who think their life and lifestyle are too miserable to be attractive to women.

"The Mystery Method - How to get Beautiful Women Into Bed" is one of the basics. It explains the M3 Model. You don't have to use the Mystery Method but you should know how it works, since it heavily influenced the whole seduction community. As an alternate introduction to the M3 Model, I like the "Venusian Arts Handbook" but that is out of print and only available through sketchy sources on the internet.

Real Social Dynamics videos are popular in seddit. It is an evolution from the structured game of systems like the M3 Model. It is mostly about "Natural Game" and improving your inner game. "RSD Foundations" is a good place to start, it's the fundamentals. "RSD Transformations" covers more material, presented by different mPUAs and is good quality. "RSD The Blueprint Decoded" is great but perhaps not for absolute beginners.

There are a lot more materials, they tend to be organized around specific models promoted by specific mPUAs or companies. I am not endorsing any specific companies and I dislike the commercialization of the community. But these guys have good material and are generally considered leaders in the community (for good or ill).

sithyiscool · 2012-03-20T19:20:51+00:00

For me, these materials gave me various epiphanies

The Game by Neil Straus: Initial paradigm shift. Opened my eyes to social dynamics and the matrix of socialization. The idea of an underlying order and dance to socializing and pick up. Learn the dance, master the dance.
The Mystery Method: The Game, but in a cliff notes/study guide type style. Got an intro idea about the stages people go through from Open to Sex
Vin Dicarlo Escalation Ladder - Different types of kino, how touch is used and the importance of how using them correctly. Radical thought learned: Group Ladder Theory
Get The Girl by Mehow - The concept of micro loops, subcommunications, value giving and kino plowing, how to work kino and body language into the conversation flawlessly
Revelation by Mystery (Venusian Arts) - The mystery method refined and evolved. The idea of microcalibration/compliance loops. DHV's elaborated
10 Second Sexual Attraction by Mehow: The idea of conversation being broken down into elements, realizing that when I communicate I was lacking certain elements (EDGE). Identifying conversation tidbits as: Attraction, Comfort, Qualification, Move, Lifestyle, Kino(touch), Edge, Sexual Innuendo. Each of these elements have tons of different types.
Microexpressions(?) by Paul Ekman - Learned about microexpressions, visual accessing cues, etc.
Beyond Words by Lovesystems: Great overview on body language and all other non verbal elements. Importance of stance, speed of movements, and setting yourself apart from others.
Real Social Dynamics: Blueprint Decoded: Probably one of the best sources of content that evolved past a set structure, into a more overall improvement in socializing, inner game, etc. Major ideas learned: In-State, Being Stiffled (indifference threshold), VALUE, Ego and why your friends aren't interested in pick up, Having a Strong Reality.

blahm3 · 2012-03-20T21:04:00+00:00

Having read many ebooks and watched many videos on pickup I would say that only one really was a game changer for me. sixty years of challenge. Most others seemed to rehash the same stuff with slightly different focus / angle and different lines. 60 years of challenge just laid it out straight cuts through the bullshit and drives home some great mindsets that will make you a man. I think it is a bit more advanced simply because I don't think much it will ring true without a decent amount of field time.

After I read it the number lays I got increased greatly very quickly.

notTouchingAnymore · 2012-03-20T17:20:15+00:00

A series of videos called The Blueprint Decoded, by Tyler Durden. Its a really long recording of a workshop done by him. Has a lot of mindfucking content. I can't recommend it enough.

callmedood · 2012-03-20T21:13:59+00:00

Mystery's Venusian Arts was fairly solid- build a natural layer over his extremely routine based M3.

I like 60 Years of Challenge(that's his full name) a lot- actually, probably my #1 right now. Yeah, I'm not even going to continue listing- get 60's shit. I think he has an audio seminar (also a fairly identical webinar) and 4 smallish e-books which are just hands down amazing. (Fuck it, I'll read them again.)

mrlogjam · 2012-03-20T19:13:09+00:00

The Sixteen Commandments of Poon

sayn · 2012-03-20T23:17:20+00:00

Tyler Durden infield videos on YouTube. That is it. No more.

PetiePal · 2012-03-20T23:28:22+00:00

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WisdomModifier · 2012-03-21T00:44:08+00:00

As someone who has gone through a majority of pick-up material the ONLY thing that you should get is "Everything Out of Her Mouth is a Test" by Frank B. Kermit.

edit: It did a lot for my frame. It covers the 10 emotional needs of women. It covers inner game. It's one of, if not the best, book on pickup and seduction that I've ever read.

Fudgeworth · 2012-03-20T19:40:23+00:00

I like reading Sinn's blog, even though he can be over analytical at times. I also like Roosh's blog.

PetiePal · 2012-03-20T21:59:15+00:00

A lot of people have touched on the must watch videos but I would like to add this video of James Marshall talking about the 3 pillars of success. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33rsHCWgISI)

This is one hour and 26 minutes and it gives three awesome points to live by. It's been ages since I've watched it but he talks about sexual intent, giving value and ... one other point which eludes me. I recommend this and maybe with a little experience under ones belt the blueprint.

Just whatever you do get the experience to back up all this knowledge or you'll become like a fembot watching austin powers shake it when your in the field.

2012-03-21T00:53:35+00:00

Mark Manson's Models

60 years of challenge, might be good just watching a video as well. tl;dr hold her hand, her hands don't lie like words.

Book of Pook, funny and good.

jewdai · 2012-03-21T01:53:19+00:00

Mystery Method is the god of all Pickup.

Get LoveSystems routine manual its a pretty popping reference if you ever want to write your own material.

chocobaby · 2012-03-21T04:14:18+00:00

saved

obviously_subtle · 2012-03-21T09:09:59+00:00

I really like Aaron Sleazy's Debunking the Seduction Community. Then again, it's only really helpful if you're not interested in canned material and "traditional" PUA stuff, or if you've already read a bunch of stuff.

iceazn187 · 2012-03-20T18:31:06+00:00

Rules of the Game - Neil Strauss is a great one. Baby steps everyday as it gives you harder tasks or more complicated tips

PetiePal · 2012-03-20T18:39:44+00:00

ANYTHING WITH CAJUN IN IT

Dudebro is way underrated, IMO. Needs to do more video.

PetiePal · 2012-03-24T03:50:49+00:00

Dfnoboy · 2012-03-21T03:42:38+00:00

None of it. go outside and talk to women a lot and try to have a good time.

Title	There's so much PUA material out there what would you rank as the MUST-reads/watch?
Author	PetiePal
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Date	March 20, 2012 5:06 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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