How do you introduce someone to seduction and self-improvement?

Ben_KA · 2013-08-15T15:24:29+00:00

Show him how it's done.

Take him to a bar or a coffee shop, have him stand next to you, and have a bunch of conversations in front of him. After each conversation, break down what you did and why, what was good and what could have been better. Then have him try a bunch and give him feedback (be gentle at first, some guys are sensitive about learning this). It is incredible how much someone can learn in a short period of time by watching it done well and then immediately trying it themselves while getting real-time feedback. He'll love you.

If you want to give him a knowledge base first, don't overload him. I'd say give him one foundational book that you like.

MyWearyPenis · 2013-08-15T15:35:00+00:00

I tried once, I still get made fun of by this friend. He's still a virgin.

ThrowawayPUA · 2013-08-15T15:28:47+00:00

Lead by example. Unfortunately, most attempts to show people pickup materials don't work well. They have to ask for it, you can't offer it because they aren't prepared for it. So show him your success and maybe he will try to follow in your footsteps. But he has to walk the path for himself, you can't get behind him and push.

jap-a-negro · 2013-08-15T21:24:02+00:00

Just teach him what you know. Fuck the books.

I have a little brother who just turned 12 and I teach him about the mindsets and other intricacies about human behaviour that we discuss in these forums. That lil dude pretty much runs his school, he knows everyone and the little girls are all over him.

And I got him lifting every now and then, so high school is gonna be awesome for him. I'm rambling but dammit, I'm just so proud of him. sniff

sondemagnus · 2013-08-15T14:51:10+00:00

Show...him...seddit

Gelnn · 2013-08-15T15:37:16+00:00

If someone is genuinely asking for help this is your opportunity to take things to the next level for yourself. No method to mastery like teaching. How would you do it differently the second time around?

JT91733 · 2013-08-15T19:26:43+00:00

jlaix says they have to find it themselves otherwise they're gonna think this is retarded

Ocasionally_stabby · 2013-08-15T17:16:47+00:00

Like others have said, show the person what you can do with these skills so he'll realize how valuable they are. After you have convinced him of the power of these techniques start with the basics; Confidence and how to get it and other inner game material. Then show him some techniques like kino, eye contact, openers and logistics. From there teach him more advanced stuff as you see what he needs help with.

Source: Introduced my younger cousin to seduction, he got himself a gf in a week.

Delepitore · 2013-08-15T17:46:43+00:00

Wingman for them- Help Him for a Night

Have a chat with him- Help Him for a Week

Give Him a Book or Resource- Help Him for a Month

Lead them to the temple of your knowledge, but bid them not to enter- Allow him to help himself forever.

readonlyuser · 2013-08-15T18:00:23+00:00

Don't do it unless they ask for it. You can't magically create emotional leverage for them, all you can do is show what success with women looks like, and allow that to sink in for them.

itsmevichet · 2013-08-15T18:12:41+00:00

You either lead by example, or you don't introduce them at all.

A student has to be ready to learn before anything can happen. When it comes to seduction that usually involves striking out 10 or 20 times.

bigfishh · 2013-08-15T18:32:36+00:00

Easy, just show him how it's done. If he is in fact curious as to how it's done show him. Tell him that he basically needs the balls to talk to a girl, cold approach like, and be fun at the same time and still escalate. Tell him that rejections are no big deal, tell him that he should approach anything he would in theory fuck, without being picky, approach anything, get over the starting problems people deal with e.g. what do I talk about, how to avoid the interview, go for crazy shit with him, insta make out, who cares? It's hard summing up what I read on here, people books, and RSD videos ... why not show him some random RSD videos? Those for beginner, how to get started, and how Tyler tells cave nerds to just go kill themselves :D, I found this, at that time, sad and funny at the same time for obvious reasons. Tell him that he should consider being more open in general, speaking whatever the fuck it is you think, helped me a lot in opening, with friends too, I tend to be the one talking now more a lot. Good luck.

kazagistar · 2013-08-16T02:19:43+00:00

For some people, myself included "serious game" just sounded stupid (and I still think it is important to not take it too seriously). I got into it by reading it as a joke, as silly crazy people writing random crap about how to be a dick on the internet (Pook was thus secretly my first teacher). Only, some of it actually clicked. If someone tried to teach me directly, I would have called him an immoral manipulative bastard at the time. Maybe still, but this time it would be a compliment or joke.

DudeLikeYeah · 2013-08-16T18:13:04+00:00

If you want to go the book route, suggest Models by Manson.

jawni · 2013-08-16T19:33:35+00:00

If you started by reading The Game, then you should just let him read it. It's a fun read and he will get a good idea of what its about + you giving your own input to anchor the book to actual real world results so they know its not just a made up story (a lot of The Game is dramatization).

achinator · 2013-08-15T16:03:37+00:00

Like a lot of people, I started with the Game too. It got me really excited about learning because it was more of a well written story about what was possible than a real self-help book. If I was you, I'd show him the Game, but then show him seddit and some more up-to-date material that's out there. A crowd favorite on here right now is Models. I read it and it was probably the best book I've read on the topic. Really the best thing you can do with your bro is talk to him about his experience, encourage him to try new things, and give him advice as he works his way through learning the beginning. It'll make you better too because you'll have to teach someone else.

RaptahJezus · 2013-08-16T20:07:36+00:00

I had a friend who consistently pulled women at all the parties we went to. I had no idea how he did it. I asked him where it came from, and he referred me to seddit.

Since then I've improved massively. Unfortunately, I discovered seddit with just a few days left in the semester. This summer has been pretty quiet, as there's not a whole lot of places for me to open women. However, in the few parties friends threw, I opened several women, and #-closed a few of them, and f-closed one of them. It will only get better once I return to school.

Seddit has been a huge help. Although I will agree, it is a mixed bag, and you have to be careful which advice you take to heart, and the advice that you ignore.

Title	How do you introduce someone to seduction and self-improvement?
Author	JuanOnOne
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Date	August 15, 2013 2:33 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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