What Women Are Universally Attracted To

IpickupGrandmothers · 2015-03-27T05:09:54+00:00

IMHO it's worth pointing out (and I think you were going for this) that being opinionated for the sake of being opinionated is pretty stupid. I think the point the OP was trying to make is that you should have your own worldview and personal values and etc. In other words, have a real personality. Not, "time to employ my 'be opinionated' tactic!"

caesarfecit · 2015-03-27T09:11:35+00:00

This is what outcome independence/non-neediness/being present is really about.

The trick is figuring out which women respond best to it.

First thing I'll say is girly girl types love outcome independence. They want to be wanted, it's what gives them power. Being non-judgmental, even indifferent to her is almost a challenge to these types.

Whereas tomboyish ones need a more impersonal approach, less touchy-feely. Common interests work well.

Now when it comes to sexually open ones, the key is polarizing advances then outcome independence. This drives them wild. Two steps forward, one step back.

With more sexually reserved ones, the key is to let them chase you. One step forward, two steps back. Be a bit of a tease, keep the mood light, and wait for the right moment.

Now with girls who are more flighty and impulsive, you need to be more confident and defend your frame when needed.

With girls who are more laid back and quiet, you need to be less self-conscious and more real/vulnerable. Self effacing humor works well.

TheCamelKing · 2015-03-27T05:02:05+00:00

Can you give an example of what you mean by "opinionated in every way except for how he feels about her"? Like should i never say she's cute or something or tell her she's attractive? Thanks for the post btw. It seems very helpful to me but I'm just a little confused on the aforementioned statement.

2015-03-27T03:49:22+00:00

I actually find it can be a good thing to express how I feel about her. At the right moments. By right moments I mean genuine moments. It can't be forced, and it has to be honest. If done this way it's not going to lower her attraction to you. It can only increase it.

I see the mindset you have for being nonchalant, I have it in a way too. However I don't think of what I do as a nonchalant attitude, I think an unfazed attitude. I'm not fazed by being around an attractive woman that I like. I'm comfortable with sexual tension, it doesn't faze me and make me act different. I don't revise me beliefs easily because the thought of sleeping with a girl is in my mind. Its clear I enjoy being around her a whole lot, I'm not afraid to express it. However I'm not changing my standards, beliefs, and overall behavior because of it. I'm not fazed.

freddymerckx · 2015-03-27T18:32:59+00:00

I was going to say MONEY!!! Women are universally attracted to money

wahahay · 2015-03-27T06:22:09+00:00

Just show women you're going somewhere better with your life. That's the guy every girl wants.

Ventura · 2015-03-27T12:08:08+00:00

Humour is something that is universally attractive. If you can make a woman laugh, you are most of the way with most women from my experience.

DrSleeper · 2015-03-27T12:42:15+00:00

The trick that works best for me is actually honesty. Saying what I want to say when I want to say it. It's often really scary.

I really believe this is the best way of attracting girls. Saying you like them or you think they are cute whenever you feel like saying it. Saying you disagree with them when that's what you feel. Say you don't care when you don't care.

dr_mcstuffins · 2015-03-27T12:19:30+00:00

Woman here - what you're saying is absolutely true. One of the biggest things that attracted me to my SO was that he just seemed so incredibly sure of himself. He knew who he was and had strong, well thought out and researched opinions that he could back up without being a dick about it. He didn't force his opinions on me and he is open to change if presented with strong enough evidence.

onetimeiwasahero · 2015-03-27T19:08:36+00:00

Women are attracted to confidence. Standing by your opinions requires confidence. Confidence is universally attractive.

King_Awkward_IV · 2015-03-27T19:47:20+00:00

Clearly coherent writing skills are not as important.

yokhai · 2015-03-27T23:42:22+00:00

Universally....right....

That my friends is what we call a red flag.

There is no one single thing all women are universally attracted to.

live_lamp_love · 2015-03-27T04:13:11+00:00

I feel like what you just described is a guy showing he has a personality/interests as opposed to coming off as someone who's bland and does nothing

Idontlikekarmawhores · 2015-03-27T11:50:27+00:00

Power

2015-03-27T06:05:58+00:00

Thank you. I can often be too indifferent. I will study this about myself.

Zingerliscious · 2015-03-27T10:10:05+00:00

I think one of the underlying dynamics at play here might be that having strong opinions leads one to be unyielding in discussions of those opinions and practices associated with them. This unyieldingness is attractive to women, because it shows that you have enough confidence in these values and yourself to not violate them for the sake of social kudos or praise, and thus gives off the vibe of 'strong independence'.

That said I don't think that having opinions for the sake of it is a good idea, it simply shuts down the mind. And pretending to have opinions on things you don't care about would get tiresome and is inauthentic. I think this same effect might be achieved by simply having a questioning attitude and taking nothing anyone says on mere authority, which shows the same kind of independence.

Landscapedude · 2015-03-27T10:37:48+00:00

Yeah, here is the real truth.

Normaly you get to this stage when you feel that you can write a book.

ruboski · 2015-03-27T11:48:42+00:00

Can I get an example?

JourneymanTRP · 2015-03-27T13:41:59+00:00

I agree with you on the concept of having no opinion of her, but I would disagree with the other part about having opinions on other things.

I have no real system of beliefs and no strong opinions to fight for or express. I have ideas but don't insist they are without flaw. And given this, i've found the same scenario, that the women near me are always interested.

I would say the actual source is not simply having opinions, but having that security in yourself (or your opinions, if any) , thus projecting a high value, and making a woman want you.

The opinions themselves aren't necessary, but they are one of several things that show your security in who you are, which is the real key here.

12_f_taiwan · 2015-03-27T14:01:35+00:00

Read evolutionary psychology by David Buss

Natrix03 · 2015-03-27T14:15:57+00:00

Weird. In a relationship now with a guy whose attitude is like your describing. Opinionated, but it wasn't just 'opinionated' he has really firm morals and a sense of right and wrong. I found it incredibly attractive. Not just that he HAD such strong opinions but that he always with held them almost to a fault.

Id be wary of 'pretending' to be like this unless you can truly adopt it. I would be devastated if the person I was with suddenly dropped 'the act' of having a strong moral compass and opinions and feel pretty lost and upset.

basilwhite · 2015-03-27T16:12:08+00:00

When someone asks for your opinion, think about your answer, ask yourself why you have that opinion, and respond with this second answer. This makes you seem thoughtful, and is in fact a thoughtful activity.

LAatHeart · 2015-03-27T17:12:43+00:00

Would guys say this is what they are attracted to in women as well?

2015-03-27T18:54:25+00:00

A long, drawn out blurb that can be reduced to:

"Have conviction" - good thing to internalize for sure.

apples626 · 2015-03-27T07:48:53+00:00

Yea I know a ton of guys like this but they usually are gay. They still have a ton of girls around them though

Bayarea_guy · 2015-03-27T13:03:56+00:00

Diamonds are women's best friend.

2015-03-27T14:17:27+00:00

Women want to be desired. They want a sexy man to take charge, do what he wants, and to fuck the brains out of his women. With this in mind, I have been banging tons of chicks whereas in college I had 0. I also lift weights so definitely do that too.

madame_mayhem · 2015-03-27T20:15:36+00:00

Lol b.s. if some guys a Christian homophobe not gonna be attracted. Just saying.

NilacTheGrim · 2015-03-27T22:21:32+00:00

I have an alternate theory and I think it holds true 99.9999% of the time and trumps any other mindgames you may want to play with yourself or her.

They are attracted to: Money, power and status. Those 3 things are all pretty much aspects of power tho. So it's power, basically, if you want 1 simple idea that covers every possibility.

Aaaand.. That's pretty much it. Even when they or anyone else claims otherwise, power trumps everything.

Spore2012 · 2015-03-27T23:45:19+00:00

Op you're wrong though. If there was only 1 criteria, it would be status or implied status. Because with that, comes all the other things required to have a high status. Money, success, intelligence, network of people, etc.

Title	What Women Are Universally Attracted To
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Date	March 27, 2015 2:32 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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