Reported as "Women live more years in ill-health than men, finds gender health gap study"

wardenferry419 · 2024-05-02T09:58:03+00:00

Not focusing on men dying younger with more overall health problems. Let's focus on those extra years women get and having to deal with back pain and a headache. Where is the logic?

MelissaMiranti · 2024-05-02T06:08:51+00:00

Women live in ill health. Men don't live.

Atlasatlastatleast · 2024-05-02T06:25:48+00:00

Women live longer than men but experience more years in poor health, according to a global gender health gap analysis that experts say underlines an urgent need for action to boost women’s health.

That’s…an interesting way to put it.

The actual study didn’t frame things that way, so that’s good.

To reduce the socioeconomic gap in life expectancy, effective efforts are needed to prevent early deaths from cardiovascular disease and cancer in socioeconomically deprived populations, with cancer prevention and control becoming an increasingly important field of action in this respect.

The Guardian, despite being known for its slant, will get more coverage than the study itself though.

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n · 2024-05-02T07:14:55+00:00

Looking at the chart, there are only three areas where woman suffer more than men. Lower back pain, depression, and headaches. Lower back and the head are where the nervous system clusters, so it make some sense to me that if you suffer one you're prone to suffer the other. I don't know enough to comment on the coralation between these.

Though of course this doesn't take into account pain caused by pregnancy, so maybe that's part of the statistics.

Depression, however... We know men commit more violant methods of suicide. So this actually shows men are prone to suicide to escape long-term depression imho.

The way this article is phrasing the statistics, it sounds like another "woman are the primary victims of war" position. It would be nice to see the news reporting these issues without the ever present "but woman..." angle.

DMFan79 · 2024-05-02T08:50:14+00:00

I'm baffled, to be honest. I understand the current narrative is shaping how news are told to the public, but to be so blatantly sexist is really appalling...

YooGeOh · 2024-05-02T11:03:26+00:00

This is so ridiculous I'm laughing.

Sure, women suffer the effects of depression slightly more than men...because the men are dead lol. They killed themselves. So they're going to use this to make all the depression focus be on women, and gaslight us into thinking it makes sense based on the incorrect, negligent interpretation of data here, whilst completely ignoring all the areas men suffer more when they aren't already dead.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2024-05-02T10:07:47+00:00

Poor women. Am I supposed to feel sorry they have a considerably longer lives?

ByronsLastStand · 2024-05-02T06:19:25+00:00

Years ago, the Grauniad used to have a comment section. I'd be interested to see what people would be saying there. Honestly, it's the same thing as war casualties- more men die, are maimed, are traumatised, but somehow women are "more affected". Disgustingly warped logic

sanitaryinspector · 2024-05-02T08:22:46+00:00

So husbands putting to rest their chronically ill old wives are just applying equality, in bringing more women to the health standards of men

henrysmyagent · 2024-05-02T17:35:37+00:00

News organizations know how society works: If a problem impacts men exclusively, then no one cares.

You have to create a headline, no matter how misleading, to somehow say women are suffering something to get eyeballs on the problem.

So if a media organization wanted to bring awareness to the problem of prostate cancer, they would have to write the headline:

New study shows the vast majority of spouses widowed by prostate cancer are women!

foxsheepgato · 2024-05-03T04:56:31+00:00

Men die in war. Women most affected. - Hillary Road Ham Clinton

jameskies · 2024-05-02T17:03:35+00:00

What is the criteria for depression? Are they including all the co morbid mental factors or just some vague definition of depression or specifically a diagnosis of MDD??

gospelofrage · 2024-05-02T14:30:38+00:00

Yeah it’s a really weird slant to take on the research. It’s pretty well known that sex is a big factor in healthcare, that men typically experience higher rates of fatal disease/disorder and women experience higher rates of long-term, brain-related disease/disorder. That kind of research isn’t intended to be used to only help women, the health field should also be reducing male instances of these problems.

When I was taking classes on this subject we routinely - as a joke - chalked up the male disproportionality to “men do dumb shit.” Which is true for some of this, but still, there are reasons men do dumb shit & ways to help reduce that.

NHS_24 · 2024-05-02T13:25:39+00:00

Soon, there will be an underwear gap study, too.😂

Embarrassed-Tune9038 · 2024-05-02T13:48:38+00:00

There is only one gender and that gender is female.

We don't actually exist.

_throawayplop_ · 2024-05-02T15:23:25+00:00

Men die early, women first affected

DrankTooMuchMead · 2024-05-02T18:45:03+00:00

Says here that a woman will live over 2,000 years with Covid, while men will live 4,000 years.

Whole_W · 2024-05-02T20:23:47+00:00

...Wow. Yeah, no kidding, especially given that *women live longer than men!* They really are obsessed with framing every way in which men suffer to instead be about oppression of women, aren't they? Reminds me of how people cry foul when women aren't allowed in the military, meanwhile a bunch of guys are off being drafted and forcibly sacrificed in combat and people are usually silent.

Ok-Calligrapher7 · 2024-05-04T03:30:33+00:00

Quantitative data doesn't tell you the WHY. Cars are designed for men's bodies in mind, seatbelts, headrest etc. Women are less looked after by the design but men make more impulsive unsafe decisions behind the wheel.

Title	Reported as "Women live more years in ill-health than men, finds gender health gap study"
Author	zeropoundpom
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Date	May 2, 2024 5:42 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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