Does anyone have experience with women having extremely high expectations of them?

Dwerg1 · 2024-10-09T04:08:26+00:00

Well, I don't let them take, take, take. I'll happily give, but they damn well should give back or I'm slamming the brakes on it. I want a companion, not a leech. What women do with my kindness is my shit test. This behavioral pattern shows them two things about me, I'm kind if they're kind and I don't let myself be taken advantage of.

I capitalize on not being what women expect me to be, as in giving them a very hard time figuring out what "type" I am. What they expect is me playing some sort of game in order to reach some end, but in my perspective the current moment IS the end. I'm really not playing any sort of game, I'm just messing around and having fun, like a kid playing with his toys. There is no goal, there is no agenda, there is no plan and women don't seem to comprehend it.

They don't know what I'm going to do next, because I don't even know. It drives them crazy because they can't predict me. This makes me stand out a lot, at least after they've interacted with me for a bit and they haven't been able to pin down my "type" or what I'm after yet.

Edited to correct minor typos.

Wean1eHu11 · 2024-10-09T03:43:57+00:00

Stop buying into their frame of high expectations. You are making a self fulfilling prophecy; girl meets you and you feel that she has high expectations, she senses that you aren’t meeting those expectations whether they existed or not, she gets turned off by the inherent neediness that manifests from this and leaves.

Hold your frame! “This is what you get when you date me because that is what I want/how I do relationships”

Western-Month-3877 · 2024-10-09T03:37:56+00:00

It’s usually because in the beginning guys already set the pattern, always “give, give, give”. They have nothing else to offer but wealth, money, or extra niceness, incorrectly assuming by doing that they will stand out from other guys.

This is why it’s important to not put the woman on the pedestal, to playfully banter with her, able to say no to her confidently.

Pedro_Moona · 2024-10-09T05:53:09+00:00

Why do you think they expect so much of you?

Pyroftw3 · 2024-10-09T09:06:15+00:00

They not that into you

You are simping and giving way too much from start (money,dick,dinner,attention) and females are greedy so with time they will expect EVEN more then you give.

So find a girl who will be happy spending time with the least effort you put into her and with time you can increase that if she deserves, that way you will know the girl is into you and not into what you giving.

So no talking everyday for all day, no "good morning beautiful", no dinner dates etc

TakeAChillPill99 · 2024-10-09T04:53:35+00:00

OP - do you represent yourself differently than who you actually are early on in the dating stages? Maybe there’s a disconnect, where you’re putting on a show for them early on and then returning to your actual self later, someone different than they signed up for. I don’t know you so maybe I’m wrong but I feel like many dudes run into this issue

Dandys3107 · 2024-10-09T07:54:31+00:00

Stand by your own convictions and viewpoint. Don’t put up with rigged game and rigged rules. Show women a real life under these delusional internet dogma. If she shows no respect or wants to frame you into losing bet, treat her like a naughty child or leave.

miyass_miyass · 2024-10-09T07:58:14+00:00

don't have much game

This is your main problem.

every girl comes into the relationship expecting the world from me

What made you conclude this?

InterestingGate7002 · 2024-10-09T22:18:03+00:00

I used to, because at my core I was a chronic people pleaser. I always seemed to find women who expected the Earth from me, and the second I'd ask for something in return they'd look at me as if I'd just asked them to murder a kitten. The problem was I would over-invest in women right off the bat, when you have this attitude it's literally a magnet for entitled women.

My mindset has always been to only invest time, effort, and resources into women proportional to what I believe they deserve, but when I was inexperienced I had simply just set the bar too low for women. Inexperienced guys tend to set the bar too low because dating is inherently harder for guys, and when you already don't have much luck you don't want to risk slimming your chances even more. Eventually though I got out of the "take what you can get" mindset, because I found that having women who were too demanding was more trouble than it was worth. Being lonely sucks, but having to deal with problematic women also sucks. It's a matter of choosing your suck.

When I had enough and set the bar higher my chances didn't dry up, quite the opposite in fact. I started attracting more quality women into my life. One huge part of the reason is this strategy weeds out the women who have ridiculous expectations for you right off the bat, and you go on one date tops with them instead of spending weeks or even months trying to pursue them. You become more efficient at finding better women because you're wasting less time with women who aren't worth your time.

Worried-One2399 · 2024-10-09T13:07:53+00:00

Yeah bcz ur not adding value to yourself. Stop chasing & start understanding that YOUR the prize they aren’t.

They’re LUCKY to be w/ a man like u AND “they can be tossed in a ditch” when YOU realize they can 2 right?

Go ahead, toss a few in the ditch! Raise your standards my guy. Woman LOVE a guy who has standards.

Create ur frame, talk to woman. Ask them questions for example, “hey wat month were u born in?”

HER: “June, why?!”

YOU: “oh NVM, I could never date a Gemini”

Move on. Watch her latch on to u like a tick that is looking for fresh blood

🤣

More_Principle_2450 · 2024-10-09T23:00:37+00:00

I know it escalates quickly. Therapy, to talk about your mom (and/or older sister)

JackSquirts · 2024-10-09T23:33:13+00:00

If you're getting attention and not able to get laid, you just need game. You need to learn to play with them and escalate the physical.

Don't get stuck on "who you are." Who you are, right now, is a guy who can't get laid. A guy who's physically or otherwise superficially attractive enough to get women's attention, but not attractive enough beyond that to make things happen with them. Everyone changes (or should) a lot over their lives. This facet of yourself is no different, just requires specific efforts to change.

Most people change by accident. They fall into ideas and friends and other paths that alter them over time. Show me someone who's never changed and I'll show you a boring person who's never grown. Nothing more sad in this world. The folks who do it right, find the best things about themselves and hone them while trying and learning new things while adopting things about the people they admire most (even if they just admire a single trait).

PlayaNoir · 2024-10-10T00:17:53+00:00

All they do is take, take, take.

Stop giving, giving, giving. Stop agreeing to everything the women want and start being assertive about what it is that you want. Women aren't attracted to doormats (unless they match the decor).

New_Atmosphere_9247 · 2024-10-11T14:19:05+00:00

Are you sure you're "just a normal guy"? Have women complained about that specifically? Or could it possibly be something else?

Do you have a job? Do you take advantage of your time after work or do you just sit around? Do you have a plan for the week, the month, a plan for the next 3-5 years? Do you have friends, real friends? Are you well versed?

These things alone should provide an interesting and meaningful life for you. You need a burning passion, real friends, you need to be a contributor to your community. That's what i would consider to be normal. These things are the foundation on which to build your life. Cool hobbys, abilities or talents are a nice addon, but not necessary.

I'm not saying these are the be-all and end-all, but you need to properly compensate for them if one happens to be missing.

You also seem to be very well read. Your sentences tend to be way longer than necessary. Reading may be a useful hobby for you to consider.

R000TKIT · 2024-10-09T03:33:08+00:00

That's the reality of being a man. You have to be near perfect. Women are born with value, and men have to build value. Men are resource creators, while women are resource extractors.

mister-castorini · 2024-10-09T12:41:56+00:00

You are focusing on what they want, but not what you want. Thats your mistake. Change your attitude and date different women.

NotMyBestEffort · 2024-10-09T12:47:12+00:00

My guess is that OP is good looking but has low self-esteem. Women expect you to act like an attractive person would because They see you as attractive - that is, until you act like you don't believe it.

BigFunnyBigMoney · 2024-10-09T14:15:50+00:00

What do they expect that you can’t give?

burncushlikewood · 2024-10-09T07:23:32+00:00

Bro stop being so negative and be confident in yourself. Women are actually very sensitive and easily attainable, even the hottest girls. If you're not getting a sexual relationship from these women it's likely you're not emotionally connecting with her, and that is the ultimate goal of this community, cause if you can create that emotional spark and chemistry with her, she'll fall in love, romance is what every woman wants. If she is turned off after getting to know you your life is too boring and lacks excitement, make yourself a person that people want to be friends with, men positively impact those around them to make people better, whatever goals they have you can make reality, athletic or financial goals

johnnybinator · 2024-10-09T12:57:57+00:00

Ha ha ha … “is anyone breathing?”

Title	Does anyone have experience with women having extremely high expectations of them?
Author	Zane-Zipperflip
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Date	October 9, 2024 3:10 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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