Why is spousal support still a thing?

yea_toast · 2014-05-24T14:31:08+00:00

I pay spousal support right now to my lovely soon to be ex wife. Its a bitch. She got a really well paying job as soon as we split but because she didnt work at all in our marriage she rated spousal support. Mind you it was a mutual seperation. There was no cheating and no physical abuse or verbal. But we couldn't work it out. So because I am the man I need to pay her spousal support even though (not counting the support money I give her monthly) she makes more then me. It's baloney I'll tell you

nick012000 · 2014-05-24T13:44:42+00:00

Because every time someone tries to get rid of it, feminists block the bill to do so.

co_radio · 2014-05-24T16:07:30+00:00

Probably going to be downvoted for this...but it exists to give spouses who don't work, who are in abusive marriages a way out. How many abused women would be likely to just leave if they had no money, no job, and no immediate means to obtain either?

lazernerd · 2014-05-24T17:52:21+00:00

My mother actually pays my father spousal support. It's something that happens to hinder the breadwinners who have traditionally been men. As that role begins to balance out we'll see more women paying it as well, though I still don't agree with the concept to begin with.

chocoboat · 2014-05-24T18:56:45+00:00

Spousal support makes perfect sense... if the wife hasn't worked for 15 years and sacrificed her entire career to raise the children and be a homemaker.

Sadly, spousal support is given far too often to far too many people who don't need it or deserve it, and that's the real problem. Lifelong alimony for a two year marriage is a joke.

SarcastiCock · 2014-05-24T13:04:16+00:00

Even after decades of talk about equality, it doesn't seem to be true and women don't seem to want it, with some exceptions (NAWALT)

sluz · 2014-05-24T17:02:09+00:00

I understand why and where it came from, but we are quickly reaching the point where it needs to be abolished. Though I imagine this is not going to happen till feminists decide they want to do away with it.

WabbaWay · 2014-05-24T18:01:32+00:00

Oh fuck, let me just mentally prepare for the downvotes before I drop the bomb that is my personal opinion...

Is spousal support really so bad (assuming both men and women have an equal opportunity to acquire it)?

I get that there are examples of disgusting human beings out there ready to abuse the system - but I have a hard time mentioning any social system that can't be abused in some (minor or major) way - I live in Scandinavia, stay-at-home-spouse isn't really a thing here, but I can see why there's a system to support them in a case of a divorce.

Seems like this would only really a problem if it was a female-only thing. But again, I'm not from a country with this strange and archaic kind of supporter-worker relationship, please enlighten me as to why this spousal support system is so bad (all system abuse aside).

kkjdroid · 2014-05-24T18:54:54+00:00

It was originally meant so that a partner who was tough to employ (no job experience, for example) wouldn't stay in a bad/abusive relationship because leaving meant starving. For some reason, though, there doesn't seem to be an upper limit--I saw something on the news about the ex of a football player wanting her alimony raised from $23,000 to $93,000 a month. She's already getting 6 times the median household income, and she wants to quadruple it. And that isn't thrown out of court immediately.

DoctorDP · 2014-05-24T18:50:26+00:00

Women can support themselves- this kind of thing, where the income of the woman isn't taken into consideration, is obsolete.

slideforlife · 2014-05-24T19:06:34+00:00

the economic cohesion of a personal relationship shouldn't depend on a payoff should the relationship fail. do what you want when you want and be responsible for your own choices.

i_poop_splinters · 2014-05-25T10:28:53+00:00

This reddit has shown me one very important thing: getting married is a horrible financial decision

Tusse · 2014-05-25T22:55:16+00:00

Because divorce as you think it exists doesn't really happen for real.

Don't marry unless you mean it.

giraffe34 · 2014-05-26T05:59:11+00:00

My mom didn't work one day in her life. She got 50K+ in alimony + CS back when she was around. She decided kill herself over it because it wasn't enough to her.

The mere idea of alimony is fucking stupid.

nclh77 · 2014-07-25T21:30:18+00:00

Because it is just another avenue for Attorneys to rape and pillage society. And they will keep it on the books since they make the rules.

MRSPArchiver · 2014-05-24T12:30:54+00:00

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Sirocka · 2014-05-24T12:38:02+00:00

So you're saying that you think it's wrong for the woman to be cautious about moving ahead for fear that she will lose some of the income from her ex? From an individual financial standpoint that's just being efficient with the situation she's in. The sad part is that this is part of the culture we have created, where there is no penalty for being a leech. It's the same as someone who refuses to go back to work because they prefer welfare. It destroys the dignity of work, rots society, and provides a horrible example for future generations to follow....

dar1n9 · 2014-05-25T04:22:39+00:00

"We're equals! We can do everything that you can do! We deserve the same treatment and respect as men!" ...and then they do stuff like demand spousal support. Women, man. I just don't know.

Ok_Hat4465 · 2023-04-21T14:29:46+00:00

Yea women often cry and use the excesus: i did everything at home. Yea u did shit and made your husband living life a complete Hell, u didnt Cook ( onl cocked), u didnt fucked your husband because u are tired and blablabl. When husband going home after a long day the last thing he want is deal with your bullshit. Yea i guess women often forget to Say that to the laws.

Best of the bests: i gave up my carrer for him!!! Aha u gave up being a dishwasher at best.

If a woman ever offer something like this to a man

Hey i work i pay everything just stay home, Cook, sex me , dont cheat on me , stay with my kids Everysingle man gonna start cry and pray the god it happened to him. Even me.

But no my ex wife wanted alimony, 25% child supprt and pay the house bills while she live there. I simply walk with her to outside and showed her where i gonna put all of them who support you little fuckin money sucker bitch. So everybody pay their own bills or everyone in the grave choose. Do you know what happened?

Can we talk please? I want a deal what good for you too . And im happy with my little kid who gets everything from me, and she gonna die one day with her horrible manipulator mother who only sucked money from their child.

Learn to stand up for yourself. Laws not gonna always help you men .

End of the story.

HotaruZoku · 2023-09-11T05:00:28+00:00

I want history. Who came up with a law that states

"You can be extorted under threat of violence to keep paying a person who abandoned a promise between you for the sake of "maintaining the quality of life they are accustomed to,""

Who all said "Yes let's put thst to vote"

And who all voted for it.

Because it's the most obviously pandering to one demographic at the direct and total cost of another in recorded human history.

Full stop. It's malice. Pure and simple. And if men don't get the same legally enforced power to excersise themselves, (Presuming they'd even want it), then (preferably) it just be done away with, hook, line, and economic, unethical sinker.

ThePigmanAgain · 2014-05-25T01:59:28+00:00

It's still a thing because the great majority of people receiving it are female.

Ucanthandledatruth · 2014-05-24T23:55:43+00:00

Because they are lazy and refuse to take care of themselves. Same reasons child support based off a need to give one parent more custody than the other. It's called The Tender Years Doctrine ~~Duluth Model~~.

SHITLORDHERE · 2014-05-24T20:25:30+00:00

That a woman lacks skills is NOT THE MAN'S PROBLEM. What is she, some irresponsible adolescent incapable of making her own fucking decisions for chrissakes.

Title	Why is spousal support still a thing?
Author	WWLadyDeadpool
Upvotes	137
Comments	138
Date	May 24, 2014 12:30 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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