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The girls of r/LadyBoners swoon over sociopathic Game of Thrones character, known for flaying, torturing people for his own enjoyment.

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Title The girls of r/LadyBoners swoon over sociopathic Game of Thrones character, known for flaying, torturing people for his own enjoyment.
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Date June 8, 2014 9:29 PM UTC
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It's not that girls don't like nice guys. By "nice guys" you mean the sort of person who prides himself on being nice but who ultimately comes off as an awkward, socially inept pushover. There's a huge difference.

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Admin-- Why the unexplained hiding of my post?

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[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 12 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

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What is this?

[–]1NV0K3R 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I remember in the middle of my sophmore year of college, I met a girl who told me this. For some reason I was very shocked and appalled. Then I promptly went around the restaurant I worked at and told every girl they had a secret rape fantasy and that I could provide.

Most awkwardly denied it. One girl let me try. I still use this as a funny segue if conversation gets boring on a night out or if I want to test shock value.

[–]LetThemEatWar32 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

FYI, it's segue, not 'segway'. Easy mistake.

[–]1NV0K3R 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I had no idea how to spell it and chrome spellchecker didn't help me.

TIL.

[–]dsav2 110 points111 points112 points 12 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

If you're an attractive male, you can literally get away with anything.

The Boston bomber had women had swoon over him for being "misunderstood" and a whole lot of other nonsense.

The lesson is to make yourself as attractive as possible. Then when you do immoral things, you won't have to make any excuses. Other people will do it for you.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 73 points74 points75 points 12 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

This is an observed sociological phenomena.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia

It's called Hybristophilia, AKA "Bonnie and Clyde syndrome." Women go absolutely nuts for handsome psychopath.

[–]Offensive_Brute 33 points34 points35 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Like that lady in Canada that got a pussy pass after she helped her stunningly handsome husband rape and murder several women, including her own teenage sister.

[–]isdnpro 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hadn't heard this one but before but this seems to be the wiki article

Most fucked up part is within 2 years of being out of prison she was married and had popped out a kid... how fucking desperate must you be to marry and impregnate someone who murdered her own sister.

[–]Offensive_Brute 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Shes hot and damaged, bargain bin shit good for the beta lacking capital.

[–]RRBeachFG2 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Van Der Sloot is all about it getting married and becoming a father while in prison- http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/14/world/americas/peru-van-der-sloot/

[–]myrptaway 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

what a sloot!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually call sluts "Van Der Sloot"s.

[–]hamstercide 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Leydi Carol Figueroa Uceda, 23, the bride-to-be, is expecting a baby boy fathered by van der Sloot, according to Altez.

Are you fucking kidding me? Why would a woman have a kid with a man serving 28 years in prison?

[–]haihui 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean? Don't you pay your taxes, or what? Plenty of social benefits to raise a bastard from the big daddy, the State. From your pockets, that is.

[–]capitalisms 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why wouldn't she? You're the one paying for it, bud.

[–]RedPillsHere 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There are also female guards who get impregnated by the prisoners in high security prisons as well.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]capitalisms 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Social status is relative to one's environment. Some inmates have tremendous amounts of status within their environment, and that's going to be attractive to a woman who spends time in that world.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dark triad traits. Women are naturally drawn to "bad boys" because historically they were the best at securing resources and asserting dominance.

[–]autowikibot 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hybristophilia:

Hybristophilia "is a paraphilia of the predatory type in which sexual arousal, facilitation, and attainment of orgasm are responsive to and contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage, cheating, lying, known infidelities or crime, such as rape, murder, or armed robbery." The term is derived from the Greek word ὑβρίζειν hubrizein, meaning "to commit an outrage against someone" (ultimately derived from ὕβρις hubris "hubris"), and philo, meaning "having a strong affinity/preference for". In popular culture, this phenomenon is also known as "Bonnie and Clyde Syndrome".

Image i - Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow

Interesting: Chremastistophilia | Biastophilia | The Good Wife (season 1) | Stigmatic-eligibilic paraphilia

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[–]Moneyley 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

got caught cheating one time by the ex fiancee'. Not in the act of cheating but I left my phone in her car and she decided to go through my messages. I was hardcore sexting with a plate, she read everything. I told her that there was no time stamp and that they were from a long time ago. She started crying and kicked me out of the house. I left in the afternoon telling her to think about what she did. I came back late in the evening to pick up my stuff. Long story short I layed in bed with her and she went from crying to having the hottest sex with me. At the time I wasnt redpill and I didnt understand what happened.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

autowikibot cares not for you human problems.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta love how all of the proposed reasons for the phenomenon paint women in a positive light. No surprise that the researcher herself was female.

It's hilarious how the glaringly obvious reason is completely missing. Women are attracted to Dark Triad traits because such people were historically best at securing resources.

[–]capitalisms 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They also go absolutely nuts for ugly psychopaths. Women just go nuts for psychopaths in general.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I literally just finished watching Rob the Mob and this is one of the first replies I see on reddit.

[–]capitalisms 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

You’re still not quite there.

Yeah, the Boston bomber had women swoon over him, but so did Adam Lanza and Eric Harris. It's not that men can be attractive in spite of being sociopaths, but rather that sociopathy is itself an attractive trait.

[–]zephyrprime 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know what you're talking about but Ramset snow isn't very good looking at all. He's pretty average. Maybe a little above average. However, there are a ton of guys in real life (not even just hollywood) that are better looking than him.

[+]Burner1701 -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as you are fictional.

[–]1dongpal121 points122 points123 points 12 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

he cut the dick off of someone and tortured him so hard he almost died and they fall in love with him? these girls are more sociopathic than ramsay....

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points54 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Genghis Khan was responsible for many an orgasms.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

It is actually something ascribed to him in The Secret History of the Mongols that while many of the women he had sex with were raped, a very good portion weren't. While the source has a motive for bias, its the only one we have, and it for the most part has been accurate elsewhere(if sparse on details). If we were to believe it, a large proportion were loyal or in love with him. Even though they were very likely to be the spoils of war, and their husbands and sons(and undesirable female relatives) were already dead at the hands of Mongols.

Apparently, The Great Ruler("Genghis Khan" translation) was a bit of a dominating womanizer, and although he was a calculatedly sadistic, famously spiteful and cruel barbaric animal to his opponents in war, he had a soft side to him too that women loved... not Mongol women... captured women. The entire thing is surreal. His army commanders believed him to have extraordinary sexual powers too, because he would sleep with many women every night. Genghis Khan's sexual history has had a profound effect on the genes of Asia and beyond and the sparse claims about it are really strange.

A lovely quote from the guy:

The greatest pleasure in life is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to take from them all they possess and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters... to treat their beautiful queens and concubines as pajamas and pillows.

Khan was said to be a charismatic and forceful speaker and actually appeared extraordinarily intelligent to those he conversed with(including by accounts of his future enemies) and apparently was a brilliant judge of character(shown by how he personally picked his generals and soldiers, and the way he played divide and conquer, seducing and attacking rulers selectively), which put him in the perfect position to set up and naturally take top spot of the meritocratic military machine he built up and oversaw. He was narcissistic, psychotic and utterly Machiavellian. The kind of alpha to make Alexander the Great seem like Alexander the Underachiever.

By some estimates he killed 35 million people. By others, he was responsible for 70+ million deaths. The vast majority civilians. The Nazis may have industrialized death but the difference between them and the Mongols was that they used modern technology and mechanization and were still less efficient. Khan was hell-bent on extermination. If he couldn't put them to the sword(not to say he wouldn't go out of his way to make time), he made sure they starved or died of disease or faced war with his allies.

Over two decades, that works out to one person dead every 20 seconds(for the low estimate). He and his sons had personal harems of possibly 2-3 thousand women each, and they most certainly competed with each other for favour. When he died, 80 especially beautiful virgins were chosen and buried along with him(among other things he loved). They are not mentioned to have been forced, and the Mongols' own history really doesn't have a reputation of being shy about mentioning rape.

EDIT: To be clear, Genghis Khan is the world record holder for most progeny, period.

[–]charlesbukowksi 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

seems bro to me

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You say that, but I wouldn't bet money on you not wincing from reading a single honest biography of his life.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I would definitely have avoided the dude.

[–]charlesbukowksi 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

different strokes

[–]nefuratios6 points 12 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

So it is Genghis Kahn's fault all Asians look very similar? Well that explains a lot.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The percentage of Khan's descendants is about 0.5%. Meaning humans have a 1 in 200 chance of carrying his genes directly. Interestingly, Khan actually did cause whole ethnicities to go extinct.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He was on the other side of Asia, by Europe, more than the far east.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDownvoteToDisagree 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The greatest pleasure in life is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to take from them all they possess and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters... to treat their beautiful queens and concubines as pajamas and pillows.

Or, in other words...

"Conan, what is best in life?"

"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women."

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Interestingly, that line is actually a paraphrase of Khan.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian_(film)#Dialogue

[–]OddQuestionGirl 87 points88 points89 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I'm the woman with the quote that got bolded. In my defense, I wish that Theon was a woman because I'm not overly fond of male on male torture. Read the quote again; I'm not saying it was sexy that he chopped Theon's dick off, I'm saying the possessive way he now handles Theon/Reek is sexy.

But I'm also dating a guy who thinks that torturing and owning me is sexy so, you know, it's not like I'm lacking self awareness about my tastes.

[–]RPthrowaway123 59 points60 points61 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

At least you can admit that, which i respect. Good for you.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This does not make it better...I guess if he ripped off some chicks clit that'd be better. No shame, I guess, but it's still a little disconcerting.

[–]OddQuestionGirl 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm well aware of how hard it is to find sex stories about FGM, so yeah, that would be better haha

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, oh good lord. I guess my only critical point about loving the reek/Ramsay relationship, but disavowing the process that created it is that it's a bit like a rabid meat eater talking about how much he dislikes the killing of animals.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ah, a /s woman. I know some too, lots of fun because you embrace your nature rather than hide from it or try to change it. Do you get lots of women saying you're 'broken' too? My friends do if anyone discovers their kinky side.

[–]OddQuestionGirl 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm pretty private about my sex life. I'm open about sex in general; I even volunteer with Planned Parenthood. But I've never really been the most comfortable going into the specifics of my bedroom (or living room, or kitchen, or...) with people I know.

So while I may call my boyfriend master, or owner, or sir at home (or in public when out of earshot of others), to most of my friends, family, and strangers we are just your normal doting couple. As my boyfriend said the other day when the property manager of the apartment we are applying for said, "how can I say no to you and [boyfriend]?" in my response to whether our application was accepted, we have some sort of "power of adorableness."

Sorry, rambling out of happiness. So... no, my friends don't call me broken. A few know I've got a bit of a kinky side, but that's pretty well accepted these days (thanks, 50 Shades!). I think my best friend/roommate passes some judgement on the fact that I prepare pretty much every meal for him, but so it goes.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every woman I have been with has loved to be dominated. I don't think its broken at all, quite the contrary because they embrace their natural desires and wants. At first I was surprised and thought there was something wrong with them, but its just how women are. Thankfully it is becoming more accepted, but the S&M side of things still gets panties in a bunch.

[–]ibuprofiend 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They're not sociopathic, just shallow. All they care about is looks.

[–]tropicalpolevaulting 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So I'm guessing you get boners for IQ points? It's biology, of course women go for the good looking dudes just as we go for the beautiful/sexy women.

And I don't know about you but I do have a few crazies in my past (though not the torture and cock ripping sort).

[–]ibuprofiend 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm just saying acting like a psychopath / extreme asshole won't get you girls unless you're already attractive. Maybe Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy had some female fans, but Ted Bundy had 1000 times more.

[–]Thzae 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And let's be honest, Ramsay's not a bad looking dude.

[–]CarpeDiem807 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To me, that read like a metaphor for this entire social dichotomy.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure the protocol on how to link to another Reddit thread without it being considered vote-brigading or what have you, but it's on the first page right now and likely will be for a few more hours.

Use redditlog.com

Copy the link the thread, paste it into Redditlog and it will give you a permanent non-Reddit archive that you can link to here

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[–]1ZAQXSWCDEVFR1 38 points39 points40 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

There are tons of GOT character threads and Iwan whathisname (Ramsay Snow) is only the 18th GOT post. Everyone saying "ZOMG women love psychopaths", just need to chill and use their brains for a moment. 2 of the top 3 and 3 of the top 10 posts are Kit Harrington, perhaps one of the meeker characters in the show (at least for now).

All of these guys have one thing in common, they are physically attractive. If I had to judge I'd say Kit Harrington is probably one of the most attractive. Did you really need TRP to tell you women like physically attractive guys? I guarantee that most of you have given a girl the benefit of the doubt because she was hot or would do so in certain situations.

While is still might be true that women like sociopaths. Using this as proof only proves that you're absolutely retarded.

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[–]1ww1ww1[S] 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. What makes this interesting is that, despite the complete and total evil which is Ramsay Snow, many women admit attraction to his character, and many others admit attraction because of his character. While women are not necessarily attracted to sociopaths, it appears that most will ignore sociopathic traits due to attraction, and some or many find the sociopathic traits themselves irresistible, which goes against popular opinion regarding niceguytm theory ie The Blue Pill.

[–]Limberine 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's true, some women will overlook sociopathic qualities in tv show characters as long as they are good looking.

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[–]Gyaltso 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The bottom line is as long as people are attractive other people will be attracted them. That's what being attractive means.

Lol woah dude, ya don't say.

just read how stupid you sound. You literally wrote something that actually means nothing.

[–]bullshit_detecting_d 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everybody has these traits to some extent. read the sidebar.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do they have acting classes that focus on facial expressions?

Seems Jon Snow could really benefit from something like that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At first I cringed, then I got the joke.

[–]homosexualsaipian -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good one haha.

[–]Ironhigh 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Morals have no place inside irrational instincts developed through natural selection.

[–]1reph 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Morality is a control mechanism that evolved through natural selection, to help weaken and pussify beta males, and make them less sexually successful. Throughout human history - the powerful have always had one set of rules for themselves, and another set of rules that they attempt to force on everyone else.

[–]Blood_Vaults 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Morality is likely the sole reason you're sitting down in a climate controlled room typing away on computer with an Internet connection.

[–]FrontTooth 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wrong, morality and conservatism works in the opposite way. Monogamy, sexual restriction and the like works against sociopathy and helps betas bind women.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

they aren't separate.... instinctually, morality developed.... choice of morals though, is where many people are misled/go wrong.

[–]1FloranHunter 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ha! I saw a girl on facebook say the same thing. Seriously though, how fucked can you be to get wet for someone that hunts down and kills women for basically no reason at all? That's like a guy getting off on Lorena Bobbitt.

Fucking RP man.

[–]Burner1701 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The other girl hunted her down and killed her.

[–]Thzae -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In the books he's very fond of his hunts. If I recall correctly he hunts them, then rapes, flays, and kills them. If they were good sport he kills them first and names one of his dogs after them.

He's uhh...a little fucked up in the head.

[–]Burner1701 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Books, ok. I'm just watching the show for now. Books later. The show is going easy on him apparently.

[–]trajanconquers89[🍰] 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It's one thing to read theory and know that women are attracted to dark triads, it's another thing to see it happening in front of your eyes.

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[–]trajanconquers89[🍰] 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

  • The way he looked at Reek as he was giving him a bath, and Reek was being so obedient and saying that he loved him. Definitely chills from that look, and the sort of proud/controlling manner he has now that he's succeeded in breaking him is so sexy.

  • I love him in Game of Thrones. Sadistic and controlling. Call me crazy, but I love that in crushes. I also love the ice truck killer from Dexter.

  • I've only ever seen him on GoT and I feel so dirty admitting that I have a massive ladyboner for him.

[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Less of the bitchiness. You wanna post here, you cut the bitchiness, we won't put up with that shit here.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, but they are not getting off purely on his looks; it turns them on how evil, controlling and powerful he is.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

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What is this?

[–]EducatedCavemen 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

What a read! where did you find this?

[–]iseeyou1312 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't link to it, so just search "On the topic of being alpha" and click on the thread, then scroll down to the comment.

I had given it a +1, which was nice to find.

[–]ModMachiavellianRed 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The sub had about 3-4k members back then. Very different subreddit.

[–]EducatedCavemen 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

definitely, I found this page when it had 15K subs and i only saw something like this once in a while.

Let me ask you this, do you know of any other articles/comments that are this informative? or what is an specific article/comment that impressed you with what it had to say?

[–]alreadyredschool 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Everything the pua nanny posted was great. I will see if I find some bookmarked/saved stuff. The problem is that I often deleted what I read because I had a 150 page document and every day it got longer.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1ix1cl/getting_gaslighted_the_lessons_learnt/

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1j6ylv/how_do_you_stop_a_partner_from_cheating/

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1j2haf/possible_answer_to_why_are_there_so_many_bitter/cbampqe

I have tons of old TRP threads bookmarked, I save them that way and then read them at work.

Edit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1j20nb/can_someone_explain_why_some_prenups_get_thrown/cbadx7r

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1j45ei/i_need_help_what_is_the_long_term_goal_what_the/cbb1anc

From his post history: http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1jc0sn/patrice_oneal_men_are_lovable_women_are_only/

[–]EducatedCavemen 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Fucking Gold Mine! What happened to punanny? looks like he just fell of the grid.

Thanks by the way, I appreciate your help.

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[–]EducatedCavemen 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Who was the other member?

[–]alreadyredschool 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would guess ZionController but I am not exactly sure since many good people got banned after saying something too hardcore.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit. This.

You will do whatever you believe is the right thing to do. Currently, you believe being a nobody and not making a fuss and not inconveniencing anyone is the right thing to do.

[–]marketinequality 21 points22 points23 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Haha that's so fucked up but I'm not surprised anymore. Of all the characters to have a crush on...

[–]OddQuestionGirl 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I wrote the quote that got bolded. I wouldn't say I have a crush on Ramsay. Just that the way he now treats and looks at Theon/Reek is sexy.

Not really much point in defending myself in TRP, I suppose, but I feel the need to clear things up, even though I should be focusing on getting dinner ready for my master.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points40 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This thread is making the larger point that hybristophilia is a real and predominantly female phenomenon, despite insistence by many vocal feminists that consent is sexy and jerks are gross. As of writing, your comment has seven upvotes, so at least six others agree with you. Other comments that find the character's sadism sexy have been even more upvoted. It's an observation of a trend -- your particular case is irrelevant to the larger point.

And for fuck's sake, no one gives a shit about your dinner plans.

[–]Blatant-Ballsack 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well said.

[–]OddQuestionGirl -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If he was an outstanding citizen who paid his taxes and donated food to widows, and secretly tortured people and turned them into slaves that would be sexier than what he does now. That scene where it showed the body of the guy he skinned and de-eyed? Believe me, no tingles there.

I'm not saying hybristophilia isn't a thing. I'm saying don't use my quote as supporting evidence for it because it isn't his atrocities that I find attractive.

[–]marketinequality 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The actor isn't a bad looking guy so I can see why women like him but the sadistic way he treats people is sexy? I wish the TV show would show how he treats women, that's what made me truly hate him in the books.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not really much point in defending myself in TRP

You just got used for a dark triad example, so yeah, you'd be correct about that.

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tvtropes? Down the rabbit holeI go ...

[–]The_Juggernauts_Dad 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's even weirder is regardless of all that I thought he was ugly as shit

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[–]candyman420 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the same reason that serial killers receive so many letters from women.

[–]aroundtheappletree 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"He's just misunderstood! He just needs the right woman to love him...."

Posted before the comment about the TRP. Just... Wow.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's almost like she's joking or something

[–]Thzae 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL I'm sure he'd stop hunting women down with dogs before raping and flaying them if he could only find the right woman to love him.

[–]Hateblade 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh... so... it isn't King Joffery they were ga-ga over, but instead the other, possibly even more sadistic asshole of the show?

Wow.

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They also gush for the pedo rapist Khal Drogo.

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[–]Ironhigh 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just look at James Holmes, that muslim boston bomber, or the many psychopaths that get tons of letters from women while in jail.You don't need comments on /r/ladyboners to find out about this because it happens in real life quite often.

[–]RAL9000 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Irrelevant Spoiler from Book 5: It gets implied that Ramsay regularly lets his pack of dogs do the tongue foreplay on his "wife". You go, girls.

[–]Blood_Vaults 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

This is why western civilization is done.

[–]genericusername80 26 points27 points28 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

This is hardly unique to western civilization nor is it new, women have been attracted to powerful killers for all of human history.

[–]Blood_Vaults 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

That's why in the past we pushed women on a strict path of virtue where the consequences were punishment and shame if they strayed. Now, this sort of thing is celebrated and is no doubt a stepping stone upon the path of ruination. Our culture cannot be sustained in this manner.

Also, Psychopaths aren't powerful, they are quite weak and mentally break at the slightest hint of hardship. They shouldn't be glorified.
There's a difference between defending your land, yourself, and family and torture for torture's sake. The former is virtuous, the latter is degeneracy.

-a government sponsored killer and BDSM aficionado.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

But by going nuts and killing innocent people, psychopaths create the illusion of being strong because of the nationwide ripples of fear they create. Women interpret the social shockwave following a school shooting as meaning the killer has power, and we all know how women feel about powerful men.

[–]Blood_Vaults 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women and weaker men don't wield power well, so I agree with you on that part, they're overly impressed by clumsy displays of power like that whereas a stronger man would see through it.

The problem now is that there's so few strong men left, so these paper alpha wannabe Batemans are being mistaken for men. A very sad state of affairs.

[–]K3R3G3 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

How about this recent one with the guy who drove around in his BMW and shot a bunch of people then himself? Did women go nuts over him? I'm genuinely asking and thinking probably not because of those YouTube videos he posted, saying he couldn't get any girls to have sex with him. That may have fucked up his image.

Also, does this occurrence only apply to guys who don't die in the process? In other words, will women still idiolize and get the tingles from his actions and character or does he need to still be alive, keeping open the tiny possibility of them having sex with him?

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So far as I can tell, the BMW got got no female love at all. Not surprising considering in his manifesto and YouTube videos he made himself out to be extraordinarily incel, so much so that not even his dark triad psychopathic actions couldn't make him attractive.

You might be right about guys who kill themselves at the end of a murder spree. Seems that women are more likely to drool over a psychopath if the authorities get him first.

[–]K3R3G3 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This makes sense. Also, aside from zombie fiction, one cannot really wield power from beyond the grave.

[–]Burner1701 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Zombie fiction and Christianity, oops that is zombie fiction.

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[–]Jar_of_apples 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you ever done research over the amount of fan mail, and marriage proposals serial killers get ? It may be a minority, but it's a very well documented thing.

[–]HalfPastTuna -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here we go with more melodramatic bullshit

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For more hilarity like this, check out the comments about Hannibal on /r/hannibaltv.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women lust after sadistic pieces of shit because they narcissistically believe that they can control them through sex and empathy. Just look at Richard Ramirez. Murders women left and right but broads still lined up to get some because they all believed in their heart of hearts that he wouldn't kill them because they're such a special snowflake.

[–]Luke666808g 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, the dude getting tortured killed children, if anyone deserves a good torture and penis chopping it's him.

[–]1FloranHunter 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They don't show it in the show but he's also a rapist. When not in power he seduces or pays women but when he had the capacity for force himself on the prettiest woman in the area, he did so.

[–]RPthrowaway123 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I read the books and there was one scene where he actually did rape a girl (beat her bloody and she left crying) but in the show I don't think he raped anyone.

[–]1FloranHunter 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not sure if we are thinking of the same event but he was raping this one woman repeatedly. He had his men bring her to him. IIRC it was actually her children he murdered in place of the Stark boys. In the show he just fucked the wildling woman and she duped him.

[–]RPthrowaway123 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He raped Kyra in the books. I don't think he raped the farmers wife, but I could be wrong it's been a little while. We should spoiler tag this thread by the way!

[–]rpkarma 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh boy...

[–]bigstinkyniggerdick 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I cringed so hard I strained my neck. Wow.

[–]Limberine 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Hi guys, I'm the original poster of the Ramsay Snow/Iwan Rheon post you are talking about. I can't speak for all the people who have commented on my post in /r/Ladyboners but I can speak for myself as OP. I have been following Iwan Rheon for years since watching the English show Misfits. In Misfits his character is a lovely, gentle, intelligent, loving man who develops from a very awkward outsider to become a full on romantic hero. I've seen interviews with the actor and he's fun and lovely. When I heard he was going to be in GOT I expected him to be one of the many good guys. It fast became apparent that he wasn't and it's been honestly confusing to want to like a character like that. There is nothing about Ramsay's personality that I would want in a man in real life, he is a psychopath and that is not attractive at all. My husband, the man I chose to spend my life with, is more like the lovely, decent, Misfits character. I appreciate Iwan's highly spirited portrayal of Ramsay though and he is a great character to watch, but my title was honest in that I'd like it if he was, deep down, nice. A redemption path for Ramsay would be great. I'd also like to point out to you redpillers that not all /r/Ladyboner readers and are women and some of the comments you are foaming at the mouth over may well be from one of the playful gay guys who also visit. Some of the comments are definitely tongue in cheek. Lastly, I put the post up as my cake day pic and some of my upvotes may have as much to do with that as with Ramsay. All up, I don't think you are taking my post in the spirit it was intended. Seeya.

[–]1ww1ww1[S] 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Happy cake day!

I don't think anyone here has a problem with your post itself. In fact, I don't have any problem with any of the comments within, either. Iwan is a pretty aesthetically appealing guy. I posted this because of the aspects which are in quotes, ie the girls who find his sociopathic nature attractive. The comments are of interest because it adds credence to a common theory about what the other sex finds attractive. When you examine a lot of popular entertainment, whether it be that which caters to women like Twilight or 50 Shades of Gray, or that which caters to both sexes like Game of Thrones, or even age-old erotica writers like Anaïs Nin, one sees a fundamental, visceral attraction to dominating men and submission to their control. I've found this to be true through personal experience. As have the 50,000 subscribers to this subreddit and many, many more. It may have root in inherent psychological nature, or it may have root in culturally inherent factors. Either way, the intent of this subreddit is to understand all the tendencies of female sexuality, regardless of how surprising they may be, and to act accordingly as sexually active men. This is increasingly important in a culture which disapproves of popular discussion about much of female sexuality. Cheers!

[–]loganal 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

$50 says that this perfect explanation of why we are here made an amazing whoosh noise as it went mach 3 over her head.

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[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Keep making low effort posts and I'm going to ban you. Consider this your only warning.

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[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your indigination has been noted, but save you it will not.

Run your mouth on your oh so magical and fabled "new alt" and you will face the same fate, again. You see there is a point to it, it teaches an insufferable little swine like yourself to follow the rules, the hard way, and if you meet my contempt with your indignation again, your next incarnation shall suffer the same fate. Now begone.

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[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have thought before that the complexities of female sexuality are probably very confusing to some men.

On the contrary, TRP claims that female sexuality is, on balance, pretty simple, and is pointing to the attraction many women have to a handsome, violent sociopath as good reason to think that its theory on "dark triad traits" has merit.

purely in a very controlled fantasy category

No shit. This thread is being highlighted as evidence that many women find such traits attractive, not that many women want to be actually tortured.

[–]tallwheel 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Never listen to what a woman says she finds attractive. Pay attention to who she is actually attracted to.

[–]kevvied4 points 12 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Likewise, pay no attention to the boring beta turds women date & marry - pay attention to the dark, sexy men in their fiction stories that they swoon over.

[–]Burner1701 -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So, women should pay no attention to the sort of quality women men marry and have children with and pay attention to the toy bimbo women in the extreme porn he watches.

[–]tallwheel 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Physically, porn stars are a pretty good example of what men are attracted to. The only reason men don't want to marry porn stars is the high cock count and the resulting shitty personality and unfaithfulness that often come with it.

[–]kevvied3 points 12 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

So, women should pay no attention to the sort of quality women men marry and have children with and pay attention to the toy bimbo women in the extreme porn he watches.

"Quality" here is a euphemism for "portly & unattractive," correct?

Women in general could learn a great deal about what men are turned on by from watching porn.

[–]Burner1701 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I meant quality as in doesn't have sex with hundreds of men in front of cameras for money mostly.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I did NOT have...sexual relations...with that man...

-Limbertine Clinton

[–]jonforthewin 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Weird when a woman is noticeably enthusiastic to breed (and in turn, populate this Earth with) more sociopaths / psychopaths.

Why does this seem more common than it ought to?

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why does this seem more common than it ought to?

I could explain it to you outright, and that would be the kind of explanation that science-illiterate blue-pillers would mock as "biotruths"

But the fact is, it doesn't matter why - where in this context "why" means exactly what selective advantage this preference conveys. Women obviously exhibit the preference. It doesn't matter why. I mean, I suspect it's because sociopaths are less likely to be taken advantage of. That's the suspicion that science-illiterate types will call "biotruths."

But it doesn't matter why. It really doesn't.

All that matters is this: in every population, both among our ancestors and in contemporary women, there exists variation in mate preference. There are, most assuredly, women who get incredibly turned on by the math nerds staying up late to study in library. There are right now, and there always have been. There are also women like those quoted by OP, who prefer sociopaths.

You ask why that preference is common. The reason is, the women who prefer sociopaths leave more and healthier offspring. That's it. That's what evolution teaches us.

I don't know the exact mechanism by which they out-compete the math majors. I don't have to. I also don't need an explanation that necessarily benefits women (or men). It could be that every women who lusts after a guy like this gets the royal shit beaten out of her. This could be a terrible, terrible thing for individual women. It could be (or really, is) a completely irrational choice for individual women. But that doesn't matter.

I also don't need an explanation that leads to a "higher" order or "more evolved" human. It could be that this preference is anathema to civilization, that eventually and execrably it reverts us to primitive hunter/gatherers. Doesn't matter.

All that matters is this one thing, which is absolutely certain from the simple observation that this preference is more common than the preference for meek, wimpy guys: women who prefer sociopaths leave more and healthier offspring.

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Still plugged in.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every insane murderer in real life sifts through hundreds of marriage proposals in prison. Some bitches are nuts

[–]MrsStrom 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it's because I get enough sex from Mr Strom, but Ramsey Snow is fucking creepy. Now Jon Snow in the other hand....

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We experience the things we don't have direct access to vicariously through others.

For women, it's got to be a thrill to experience, second hand, being assertive, dominant... socially "in control" being associated with the alpha guy.

For men, it's emotional, nurturing... unconditional love. (Like mom)

Not exactly rocket surgery...

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No bro you dont understand these are just figuratively said! They don't really mean what they're saying!

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[–]zephyrprime 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seriously. Everyone is talking about him being so handsome but give me a break. There are lots of guys as good looking as him or better. He's only maybe a 7 tops. Nothing special looks wise. His fame brings him to another level but fame is not looks.

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

keep in mind that those in that sub are not normal to begin with

[+]LibertarianLibertine -8 points-7 points-6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Torture/SM is not related to the regular women I think. Sure they like to be submissive, but there's a huge difference here.

Usually people with fetishes as BDSM have some very troublesome experience in their youth

[–]Jar_of_apples 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then explain how a bdsm, and rape themed book series called "fifty shades of grey" is one of the top selling book series in the western world ?

[+]Senior Contributorexit_sandman -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Well, at least in that case I hope we can safely say NAWALT.

But those that are... well, let's just be happy that they can write stupid fanfiction and otherwise keep their fantasy under wraps.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Its the top post, apparently AWALT

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, in that case at least it makes a good test of character. If a girl tries to rationalize why Joffrey, Ramsay, Cersei or someone similar is actually one of the good guys, you have the writing on the wall.

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[–]ModMachiavellianRed 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People here just don't have any appreciation for niceness, it's really sad how angry they are.

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[+]NoFatChicks88 -11 points-10 points-9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

to be fair, these ladies don't represent the average woman and i'm sure there are just as many men that are attracted to (attractive) psychopathic women.

[–]Jar_of_apples 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

these ladies don't represent the average woman a

fifty shades of grey says otherwise. Women being attracted to being dominated, owned, and fucked by a perceived alpha male is a hard-coded trait of women.

[–]rabidhamster87 -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. That last one was me. It was a joke you morons.

[+]dousche -10 points-9 points-8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Seriously low quality post and comments in here.

[–]HalfwySandwch 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Except for this dipshit, this dipshit knows what is up.

[–]dousche 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not about my shit or your shit. I'd want to see this whole thread deleted along with my comment as well.

I just feel like this post is hamsterning, as in lowering other people rather than raising yourself with self improvement.

Alot of new subscribers who are stuck in the angry phase. Seriously, who gives a fuck about a fake tv show (certainly a good one!) and a couple of nerdy reddit girls reaction.

Seriously?

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