Does anyone else wish it wasn’t all so true?

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The whole thing. The other side you only saw upon awakening. I’ve been reading it for years and I’ve never had such a brilliant grasp of women as I do now. I know how it works, without sounding big-headed. I get it. It’s a sixth sense by now.

The plots, the ploys, the tests, the tears, the dual dynamic of AF/BB. The way women gravitate toward toxic behavior yet overtly criticize it. It’s like a literal switch. The cruel, constant paradox of more investment constantly being desired by women yet the moment it is given the attraction wanes. I have seen branch swinging so many times I believe we may still be monkeys. There is very little variation and I find that the few times I stumble upon a girl who I think is different I am always soon to find that I am wrong.

I’m in very good shape, have a medical degree and am becoming a doctor, have girls showering me with salacious and not-so-subtle invitations and a beautiful girlfriend. Yet no matter what I do, no matter how I act, I can never get rid of this dull ache of detachment since swallowing the pill. It’s like the little boy in me died suddenly. There are times I wonder if any of it is worth it. TRP doesn’t bring me true joy like before, just the joy associated with completing a task.

There is a lens that can never be fully retracted once you’ve swallowed it. Social interactions are observed with a keen objective detachment and judged according to what you have learned. Almost robotically seeing it in the cold gray light. Yet on the surface this is imperceptible.

I remember being a younger man, being free from it, but all the same much more hopeful, more emotional, more truly in love with women. There is a dehumanizing element to the Pill; a stoic, amoral constitution. Everything with people has a somewhat calculative tenet to it; every interaction being marked as some arbitrary ulterior design to become somehow more attractive. Always more attractive. But to what end?

Frankly I’m not depressed by it as I used to be, but I often feel dead inside. Not to say that I am joyless, but a lot of natural instincts are ignored and at times it feels as if I am a massive imposter in a sea of real people.

I have it all on paper, largely thanks to TRP, yet at times all I want is for it to not be true, to run home and curl up and collapse into bed. To be overwhelmed by emotions for a girl without having to constantly pull myself back and worry about becoming overinvested. There are times on my cycle to work where I dream of weaving into the oncoming traffic. It’s not suicidally rooted but merely a sense of utter disgust with the world. A desire to walk away from it. The world truly is repugnant to me. While the bluepilled world is delusional, it may be happier. And I often question whether finding the Pill helped me at all.

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Title Does anyone else wish it wasn’t all so true?
Author herbyx10
Upvotes 376
Comments 123
Date 01 June 2019 10:27 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]GirTheRobot 1 points [recovered]  (22 children) | Copy

No. I'm happy it's all true. I'm happy to know there is a relatively reliable set of rules I can apply to get the results I desire. I'm happy to know that I don't believe in any fairy tale fantasies or trappings of what I used to think women want.

The redpill has also just made me enjoy spending time with women more. They're no longer confusing. They no longer intimidate me. They're just fun. Flirting with women is fun. Kissing them is fun. All of that stuff. I have the redpill to thank

[–]PimPedOutGeese43 points44 points  (13 children) | Copy

The redpill has also just made me enjoy spending time with women more. They're no longer confusing. They no longer intimidate me. They're just fun. Flirting with women is fun. Kissing them is fun. All of that stuff. I have the redpill to thank

Couldn't agree more

[–]EvolvedVirus6 points7 points  (12 children) | Copy

But the thing is you can't be your natural self. Maybe you're an agreeable person and like to enjoy the company of others, but you cannot, because it shows too much interest and attention. It blows up their ego. You have to drop women all the time, assuming the worst in them instead of the best. What's absolutely incredible is how they too seem to know these things either naturally and it's so damn consistent too.

Everything has to be thought out, you have to filter out your stupid jokes and you can't discuss certain topics and things you want because you know it's the type of thing women don't have interests in.

An alpha might do what he wants, but only if the girl they're dating is relatively super low on the scale and so you can just do anything and get away with it.

Then worse you have to train the girl, like a child, you have to reward the good behavior and punish the bad. It's like dealing with children rather than adults. You don't have to do any of that with your adult male friends.

Flirting with women is fun? Shit that stuff is boring as hell. Occasionally, you'll find a smart girl who can keep up with the banter and it might be a bit fun, but even they are disappointments.

Don't get depressed or anything, but sex and the food at the bars is the only fun part in all this. How many boring dates where they are too nervous and don't get your jokes because they aren't humorous or smart... It's just challenges all the time.

I see... *whispers* I see airheads everywhere...

[–]BlackBaby_Jesus3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

You sound empty, and VERY manipulative

[–]EvolvedVirus2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

That makes no sense. How dare you make such shit assumptions? The topics I want to discuss are intellectual topics that people cannot usually keep up with.

I'd rather prefer to have an intellectual topic than to banter and flirt with these dumb girls, but unfortunately that's all most of them know: reality TV, gossip, weather, their job, food, travel, those are the primary things they get excited about. Outside of that, they are empty and void.

Sometimes you'll be silent to test them, see if they have a story or see if they have some opinions. They DO NOT. They too become quiet or the silence will actually make them blurt out something even more stupid.

The worst one I heard was "what is your favorite color?" after my brief silence. It's a bit pitiful, I pity them, but usually they cannot help it. They cannot connect with other people. Because they can't connect, they reject a lot of people out of anxiety too.

A real manipulative man, would have his stories ready, battle-tested stories, jokes prepared, that level of manipulation. THAT is the guy women love though. THAT is that "spark" they keep looking for. THAT is the "chemistry" they are referring to.

Most women fall even more for the super-manipulative man, than say, the somewhat-manipulative man who is his natural self.

[–]BlackBaby_Jesus6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

You sound so pathetic.

“ThE TopICs I WAnnA DisCus ArE iNtELlectUal ToPICS tHaT peOplE uSuaLlY cAnT KeeP uP WiTH”

Lmfao Please shut the fuck up 😂

Women love intelligent men as much as men love intelligent women. You think men are the only ones capable of having an intelligent conversation? My girlfriend who I have intelligent conversations with all the time would make you looks stupid. She would expose your absolute lack of emotional intelligence and then let all the other girls know you’re to be avoided and they would all do the same.

Shallow people exist and you fail to remember men are just as shallow as women. You fail to remember everything is based on maturity of the individual. You fail to remember what it is to be a fucking human with vulnerabilities. What kind of “InTEleCtUaL” doesn’t fucking understand the concept of the egos shadow? All shallow actions are motivated where the human shadow lives, and everyone is blind to it because it’s unconscious. 🤦🏾‍♂️

“SoMeTImEs YoU HaVE To TeSt ThEM”

Or just ask her straight up you pansy instead of MANIPULATING her to fucking say something by being silent. How lame can you be? Why are you “Pittying” women for trying to alleviate an awkward Interaction that you caused? Do you actually have any social skills?

“ThEY CaNNoT ConNeCT wItH otHeR PeOpLE”

Oh boy let’s do some analysis.

This generalization screams something is wrong with your perspective because it’s so far from the truth, reality, and in your own ass. What probably is actually happening is that YOU can’t connect with other women due to your condescending attitude and resentment.

As a fucking man I can connect with women just fine and don’t need to “test” or strategize to do so. I don’t have to do shit but be my self and a decent fucking human being. No games or nothing, just genuine human interaction is all it takes.

I was wondering why in the fuck would you ever say something so stupid then it all made sense. This is all a projection of your insecurities onto women! You can’t accept or see what’s actually happening (YOU can’t connect with women) so you place the blame on them(WOMEN can’t connect with other people) to protect your ego.

Respect all life and don’t be an incel please

[–]EvolvedVirus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

would make you looks stupid. She would expose your absolute lack of emotional intelligence and then let all the other girls know you’re to be avoided and they would all do the same.

Emotional intelligence lol... you mean like gossip skills? Empathy except that she has ZERO empathy, like a psychopath and telling all her girlfriends to "avoid some guy" that she barely knows and can't empathize with his "lack of emotional intelligence"? You are quite the loser.

understand the concept of the egos shadow? All shallow actions are motivated where the human shadow lives, and everyone is blind to it because it’s unconscious

Sounds like pseudo-intellectual hippie nonsense. Shallowness exists more in women because women get a lot of men asking for sex.

Men do not get surrounded by women asking for empty sex, unless they are some sort of celebrity on the cover of magazines top sexiest men.

Or just ask her straight up you pansy

Ask her what? Like what I want? Because honesty is not rewarded by women. It is punished.

“Pittying” women for trying to alleviate an awkward Interaction

There is nothing awkward about silence. We can't fill every moment of our lives with scripted-Hollywood-style-conversations. But that's what women imagine because their lives revolve around TV shows and even scripted reality TV shows. I'm testing them to see if they have opinions or brains. If they did, they could fill that silent void with stories and ideas.

far from the truth, reality, and in your own ass.

You sound like a butthurt girl who failed to connect with men.

What probably is actually happening is that YOU can’t connect with other women due to your condescending attitude and resentment.

What is condescending about it? When someone is angry about someone being condescending it's usually a big alarm bell in everyone's head that someone just doesn't have a counter-argument and something I said infuriated them because it was so strongly tied to 100% truth.

Please tell us more about condescension.

don’t have to do shit but be my self and a decent fucking human being

lol what? A man is like this naturally: "hey let's get food... hey let's do work... I read an article today about <political topic> how fucked up is that? You read that too right?... hey let's have sex... hey let's go to bed" try doing that on your next date. Men are factual, logical, on-point, demanding, gadget-oriented, intellectual, and sportive. Try doing all that on a date next time with a girl, she will be like "what a damn caveman... And then he asked me for sex on a first date..." Instead of rewarding honesty, they will punish it.

This is all a projection of your insecurities

What insecurity? Can you list them out?

[–]yallareweak0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You dont even want to know what you sound like and probably are

[–]BlackBaby_Jesus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Care to inform me

[–]yallareweak0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You're straight up full of shit. No ad hominem, just cold truth.

[–]BlackBaby_Jesus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Oh wow you really showed me :,((

[–]GirTheRobot 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

I really don't have these experiences with women. Every girl I go out with or attract or decide to plate or date or whatever, they all have a good sense of humor and are pretty smart. If a girl is an airhead, then I won't ask her out on a date. Maybe you're not filtering enough. But ever since discovering the redpill I've gotten along with women a lot more.

[–]EvolvedVirus2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

No idea where you are encountering these great women. You're finding women who are hot and smart all the time? Are you dating a lot older chicks? Most girls don't seem like airheads, but they are.

Typically it's like this: too hot -> crazy & dumb... medium-hot -> dumb... not-hot -> smart

not filtering enough

Filtering? Men aren't usually the ones filtering buddy. I mean yeah you shouldn't go and pick up chicks at the club, you're selecting on physicality alone and they will be dumb.

But most of the time, you, as the man, are the one finding various girls, taking them out and sometimes it doesn't work out and the women tend to have the abundance themselves through the apps. You yourself, may not have that same abundance level as a man, even if you are relatively good looking.

? I've gotten along with women a lot more.

Define gettingalong? Banging or just friends with them? Sure, it helps you make more friends that are women and helps you get along with them.

Just don't be dishonest with me and tell me the real story. I can probably tell if you tell me where you are finding women what kind of women you're finding.

[–]Conscientiousless0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I hear you bro. I feel the exact same way.

One theory is that you and I live in a society where the great majority people are dumb and shallow (doubly so for women). I'm pretty sure this is true in my case.

Another theory is that smart and hot bitches only look for smart, hot, and charismatic dudes. They get the pick of the litter. Maybe they're fun, interesting and open only with guys who are good-looking and smart, but also have good social skills and money/ambition for money.

PM me so we can share ideas on wtf is going on here.

[–]EvolvedVirus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah most likely. I find a lot of men dumb too so it's not just women.

smart and hot bitches only look for smart, hot, and charismatic dudes. They get the pick of the litter.

Exactly, so if you miss one, or got a little drowsy from the alcohol, it may hurt your chances.

[–]Kydilee3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just to note, to see the other side of the coin, there is a recovering red pill thread. Also, I think it comes down to finally finding someone looking and ready to build. And, for reals, read the book getting the love you want. Lamest title. Great info.

[–]uwotm8912 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think the whole timing thing is kind of bullshit. If your frame is strong enough, any woman will be ready to build at any time in their life.

[–]Nis_law1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

ikr? OP would rather be a fuckin lazy ass motherfucker who sits on his couch while his gf remained loyal just because he met her first. No bitch, life is based on survival of the fittest, you stop fuckin getting off the couch you're done. Don't blame hypergamy, it keeps men on their toes and fuckin competent, pushes you to be the highest value male you can be. You'd rather be fuckin clueless and follow the crowd, be in love truly than be the guy who understands the mechanisms and transcends the fairy tale world. You have the chance to not be a puppet of your own feelings and rise above all the bull crap you were fed and here you're whining that being ignorant was better.

Women are not loyal just on principal alone, you need to constantly prove yourself, if another guy outranks you in every capacity, it would make perfect sense for her to dump you.

[–]soundspoon1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Only if I knew how to flirt...

[–]Red-Lantern7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sidebar. Practice

[–]Datanami5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

  1. Flirt

[–]boredathome190 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I feel like I'm way to stupid to differentiate between shit tests, real complains and the complaints they don't really want you to fix. I know how to correctly apply this set of rules once the situation is clear, but I'm having troubles to distinguish every situation for what it is.

[–]WalterEArmstrong1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You get better with practice.

[–]acp_rdit182 points183 points  (10 children) | Copy

Children and animals seek the "joy" caused by the chemical reactions their brains create when they experience something pleasing to their senses.

Men seek the satisfaction of completing tasks that bend the world to their will.

You grew up and picked up the man's burden. And you know you can't put it down until the day you die. And some days it is heavier than others. It is normal to be nostalgic for the simpler times when in your ignorance there were no barriers between thought and action.

[–]marcus8crassus31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

This OP. Accept this truth for what it is and be absolved of your sadness and self pity.

[–]Conscientiousless10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

Men seek the satisfaction of bending the world to their will precisely because of the chemical reactions in their brain that a kid induces by playing with toys. There is no supreme sacred goal here bruh. Accumulating wealth and fucking as many HB's is simply the monkey brain using your mind as a tool to do monkey stuff in a cool way.

You want something beyond that? Then don't aspire to be happy, aspire to change the world for the better. Very few people are mentally strong enough to convince themselves not to go for instinct-fulfilling journey (Example: Nikola Tesla, virgin until death, died poor, changed the world). That is the MAN's burden. Not fuckin bitches or getting bread, like a bird strives to do.

[–]Vikingcel9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's the truth. Thinking you've somehow ascened beyond the pleasure seeking is ironically another form of pleasure seeking.

[–]uwotm8912 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Thomas Edison got bitches, and I’ve read that DC transmission is making a comeback in a big way.

Your talking about living a completely hedonistic lifestyle vs abandoning all instinct for the greater good of mankind. I think there’s some area in between in which a man can serve his altruistic endeavor as well as live a happy life with an abundance of bitches and resources.

IMO, your example is straight ego talk. It’s like when someone forsakes their own happiness for some cause but receives praise from other people. Straight martyr complex

[–]Conscientiousless1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sure you can do both. I plan to do both, as well. Very few people have the strength to forsake all or even most animalistic instincts. However, I don't mix up excelling in the hedonistic bit as something holier-than-thou, as the original comment proposed.

[–]uwotm8911 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

True! Many achieve money and success as a means to get women. It’s their primary objective, and it’ll certainly leave them with a bleak outlook on life. Falling for the party boy lifestyle only to find out that they’ve been sold a lie, and as you said before, they’re no better than the thots that fall for the same thing.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy

Just wanna add that nostalgia is based on naïvety in scenarios where you “had it better” when you were younger. Hell, sometimes I look back yearning for some good ol’ days, but I’m also young enough to realize how poor we were and how shitty life was growing up, enduring puberty, and slogging through school until I could just barely manage to stand on my own two feet. Life is what you make of it, but you can only make what you want out of life by working towards that goal. Of course shit’s real, but that reality is also why being grown is vastly better than being a child without agency.

Ambition and personal desire can be a potent combination when applied with vision and knowledge, but being a kid puts the kibosh on a lot of that. Adulthood is freedom, and those that think otherwise need to reevaluate their lives.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I never had the "good old days" because I've been unhappy as far as I can remember, only in the past I had hope things would change one day when I became an adult and became independent. Now that I'm an adult I'm not so sure anymore.

[–]uwotm8912 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The power to change things rests solely on your shoulders. Yes, it’s a heavy fucking burden, and if you fail then there’s no one to blame but yourself.

Have you ever heard the saying “wish in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one gets filled first”? Don’t wish, or hope, that things will get better for yourself. That’s basically just saying that you feel entitled to that better life, but you’re not willing to work for it. Take action.

[–]WalterEArmstrong1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your life is what YOU make of it.

[–]Backuponit2017157 points158 points  (2 children) | Copy

Reality is often disappointing.

[–]leepicfeminist49 points50 points  (1 child) | Copy

But for a man reality can be whatever he wants

[–]crespo_modesto32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy

A man chooses, a slave obeys.

[–]Terdmuffin44 points45 points  (1 child) | Copy

You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up faster.

-Ancient Chinese proverb

[–]dusara21732 points33 points  (1 child) | Copy

Have you done any reading into Stoicism or into Buddhism? If not, I would highly recommend you do so. It sounds as if you don't know the recipe to leading the kind of life that you would feel is worth living. Additionally, experimenting with hallucinogens like psilocybin has been shown to produce dramatic positive changes in many people's psyches. Experiencing transcendence, be it through intense meditation, hallucinogens, or a host of other methods, is one of the few tried and true methods of finding meaning that isn't wholly based upon lies.

[–]TheHayha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Psilocybin makes you think, but beware not to take it alone, (a sober friend with you) after experiencing it, i think people that are emotionally fragile could easily experience suicidal thoughts with it.

[–]light-----------dark54 points55 points  (2 children) | Copy

It’s lonely at the top, my friend.

[–]trp282871 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Are you at the top?

[–]light-----------dark10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

I’m on my way towards the top, and it gets lonelier as I make my way up.

[–]EqualFaithlessness17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

I love this but I want to address “you can never be fully honest with a woman”

I like to keep girls guessing but eventually, when it inevitably comes up, I tell them I don’t want a relationship. I have to be honest. For both of us. I’m not leading anyone on and 9/10 the girls are cool with it because they enjoy me.

Agreed with everything man else tho! Good post.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

9/10 the girls are cool with it because they enjoy me.

They are likely only saying that to keep you around.

[–]EqualFaithlessness1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well I’m laying the pipe and I’m usually out doing fun shit so it’s my assumption

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (7 children) | Copy

Don’t jump me here, what I’m about to say rustles people’s jimmies, but I think I should mention that you can self-generate joy in an outcome independent way. I could probably write a guide on it at this point but I think, while the info is true, it wouldn’t be helpful to the reader to really understand by experience. Read The Power of Now. It will introduce you to a possibility that you will really like.

A lot of people often downvote me for saying this for some reason, because it questions their narrative of cynicism, because they want to stay that way, they like it that way. But if that isn’t you, my opinion is that most people will find a very valuable experience from the book “The Power of Now” especially if they are experiencing suffering.

[–]Erikacoleman1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Im gonna do just that.. Im showered with pussy now to the point where i didnt even bother on going on the dates

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

The comment isn't about getting pussy, it's about the dreary mentality OP described.

[–]Erikacoleman4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah i just mean that now that it stopped becoming a challenge.. I feel empty.. Same. As op described

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah, I get you now. Yeah, I bet you think back to when you put the pussy on a pedestal, and it's preposterous.

[–]uwotm8910 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Find things to do other than chasing pussy. Life is about balance, so you just need to recalibrate.

[–]uwotm8910 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Is that book on any of TRP book recommendation lists? I could’ve sworn I’ve seen it mentioned here before, so I don’t know why people would throw shade on you via downvotes.

[–]iHairy[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I read that book, it’s one idea mentioned many times in the book, or perhaps I should develop my reading and understanding skills.

[–]The-Wizard-of-Oz-28 points29 points  (4 children) | Copy

Ya... But once you get to the top, women ie sex will be cheaper than fish. You'll also be very rich and successful in life. The whole meaning thing... Well for that I recommended you look up a favorite story of mine, from the Magus by John Fowles.

The Prince and the Magician. Here :

The Prince and the Magician "The Magus" by John Fowles Once upon a time there was a young prince who believed in all things but three. He did not believe in princesses, he did not believe in islands, and he did not believe in God. His father, the king, told him that such things did not exist. As there were no princesses or islands in his father's domains, and no sign of God, the prince believed his father. But then, one day, the prince ran away from his palace and came to the next land. There, to his astonishment, from every coast he saw islands, and on these islands, strange and troubling creatures whom he dared not name. As he was searching for a boat, a man in full evening dress approached him along the shore. "Are those real islands?" asked the young prince. "Of course they are real islands," said the man in evening dress. "And those strange and troubling creatures?" "They are all genuine and authentic princesses." "Then God must also exist!" cried the young prince. "I am God," replied the man in evening dress, with a bow. The young prince returned home as quickly as he could. "So, you are back," said his father, the king. "I have seen islands, I have seen princesses, I have seen God," said the prince reproachfully. The king was unmoved. "Neither real islands, real princesses nor a real God exist." "I saw them!" "Tell me how God was dressed." "God was in full evening dress." "Were the sleves of his coat rolled back?" The prince remembered that they had been. The king smiled. "That is the uniform of a magician. You have been deceived." At this, the prince returned to the next land and went to the same shore, where once again he came upon the man in full evening dress. "My father, the king, has told me who you are," said the prince indignantly. "You deceived me last time, but not again. Now I know that those are not real islands and real princesses, because you are a magician." The man on the shore smiled. "It is you who are deceived, my boy. In your father's kingdom, there are many islands and many princesses. But you are under your father's spell, so you cannot see them." The prince pensively returned home. When he saw his father, he looked him in the eye. "Father, is it true that you are not a real king, but only a magician?" The king smiled and rolled back his sleeves. "Yes, my son, I'm only a magician." "Then the man on the other shore was God." "The man on the other shore was another magician." "I must know the truth, the truth beyond magic." "There is no truth beyond magic," said the king. The prince was full of sadness. He said "I will kill myself." The king by magic caused Death to appear. Death stood in the door and beckoned to the prince. The prince shuddered. He remembered the beautiful but unreal islands and the unreal but beautiful princesses. "Very well," he said, "I can bear it". "You see, my son," said the king, "you, too, now begin to be a magician."

[–]_Last_Man_Standing_13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

thanks for the story...
was nice...

[–]jbModsSuck14887 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

I don't git it

[–]predicatelite9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

nihilism and subjective reality. Of course magicians can't change what the values of numbers are, for example 3 will be 3 everywhere so obviously there exists an absolute reality, depends on whether you want to seek that or be a self serving magician.

[–]SteveStJohn7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

This guy’s dad was a piece of shit.

[–]GreatMenderTeapill8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. I wish it wasn't true. I am straight and fuck plenty but the nature of female sexuality now disgusts me.

[–]777views0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I’m the same way too man, wish all this wasn’t true.

[–]kayfab9 points10 points  (12 children) | Copy

When i met my ex girlfriend the only thing i ask was sex 3 times per week, and the only thing i saw was us growing older together, and taking care of each other.

What i really got was bad sex from a cunt that never liked it, i was a $$$ income to her, and she never gave me affection, cuddled because she had mental issues and a blockage somewhere.

After she ditched me after 9y losing my house in the process for another guy at her job telling me she did not love me, i was 41 and went on to search for another women, after all at 40 women should be more mature right and know what they want.

What i discovered shocked me, most 35y old women who are post wall cunts are super shallow, have super high standards, have close to nothing to offer a men, but there spoiled little brat kids, and bring close to nothing as income.

I spent 4 years after my last separation online dating, which i failed, and also being introduce to women etc... the younger ones where less fucked up then the older ones.

After 4 years of failing i saw the ugly truth and i started going my own way, reading about the red pill etc.....

The irony of all this is that those women end up staying single because there standards are set next to impossible, my downstairs neighbour is 42years old as a 10y old kid, i been living there 6y and i saw her with at least 7 different men.... sooo.

The other day she asked me why she never saw me with a women, i turned things around and ask her why at 42 she dates so many men, she is single again.... i ask her what does a 42y old women want in a man these days.... honestly she did not answer and walked away.....

For me its best to remain single, if i meet some women i just have sex but never more i am done with dating, long term relationships etc.....

[–]ugluk19 points10 points  (9 children) | Copy

Ha ha, she saw you as a potential branch. Good work for not letting her shame you. They dont study TRP and are programmed to just wait for a cuck to appear.

[–]kayfab7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy

The world is turning to shit honest being older i am seeing this first hand, with co workers much younger them me, i try very hard to red pill them but sadly lots of men are not ready for the truth.

One of my work buddies went out with this mental cunt for 7y she was is first girlfriend, worst then me he provided for her for 3y paying everything car, apartment food for her while she finish her studies.

She found a job and they decided to buy a house, 1 month after she freaked out, i do not love you anymore and she broke up with him...... he sold the house lost a lot of money but kept contact with her, we are friends WTFMAN...

He is still single after 2y she is pregnant from another simp cock she met, she became pregnant after only 6 months with the other guy..... and my friend is depressed..... i try really hard to tell him he dodge the biggest bullet in is life and that bitch will end up like all other cunts, online dating single mom.... but he does not see that.

I haven ever ever gone anywhere nor kept contact with one of my ex.... and today i am glad that my ex cunt bitch left with this other guy, honest i would see that guy and shake is hand and tell him thank you......

Women don't improve your life they ruin it in so many damn ways.... add social media to the mix, facebook, tinder online dating and you see where the chaos is going...

Men want love with women, women want resources, and are always looking to get better then you.......

[–]kazerama 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy

Men love romantically, women are just opportunistic, TRM put some hard truths there.

[–]kayfab5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

They are actually getting dumber by the minute, its insane, i had join a few facebook single groups, women 35 and up with kids ugly as fuck nothing to offer and being super shallow, a pear shaped fatty came on and whine that no men in the group interested her... she had huge glasses and short blonde hair 2 kids, and worked as a cleaner... before leaving the group i replied to her comment stating that abysmal as she was with zero to offer her only standard in a man is that he breath....... all the white knight trashed me it was hilarious... they never got the message.

[–]kazerama 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy

They all think they have something to offer when they do next to nothing to improve themselves.

The entitlement of just having a vagina would not deter thirsty men from approaching, even if they were land whales.

Validation from such men only increase these womens' self-perception of their own SMV. It's really insane to see how they think of getting a quality man while disqualifying themselves from the race due to obesity, rampant drug and alcohol abuse, and raising kids with different men.

[–]kayfab2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yup its insane i used to be online dating on plenty of fat fish i am close to 6 feet in my 40 and been training for a long time, and believe it or not i got insulted by very ugly women, those hags post pictures of themselves and when you meet them in person they look like total shit but as you say to got so much validation from weak idiot blue pill men that there small pea brain head is swollen.

I wanted to get back into boxing, only training not competition to lose fat, so i see this ugly fatty hag short black hair fat ass, around my area and she put a picture of her training in boxing, i message her just to ask her if she knew any boxing school around our area because i was interested in training just lose weight etc, i specified that, she replied to me calm down boy you are not my type at all, i don't want you to come stalk me at my boxing class......

I told her to fuck off and that if she was the last women on earth i would fuck the animals instead of her......

All this shit makes you think you are the ugliest man alive, then you go out and you are able to pick up younger sexier women then online dating...... this is really fucked up.

I have been off line for 4y but i am not alone sadly my co workers are still wasting time online.... even worst on Tinder.....

[–]kazerama 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Should have told her you wanted to know which boxing school so you could avoid it.

Don't get bitter about the unattractive ones. Just ride the waves of degeneracy and use it to your benefit.

[–]kayfab1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have been off line dating for a long time, and i am not going back honest.......

Online dating destroyed my confidence.....

Another thing going into those facebook single groups, i saw the real truth some men are attention whores too, they ask to post sexy pics of yourself this roided guy comes in with is six pack and long hair and all the fat single moms go crazy.......

Also in those group its a god given that if a women spot you, and wants you, she is gonna get you.... i got lot of heat for turning 2 fatties down, so i decided to quit online dating in any form.....

Women today are fucking stupid....

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Men love romantically

Men fall in love with illusions and then complain when they get screwed over by whores.

[–]ugluk10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Therr is no other way than be the best sge can get.

[–]uwotm8910 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

That’s why you get your ass in shape and date 20 year olds. At least they have a tight body and some fun times to offer.

[–]kayfab0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

yeah at 43 i dated a waitress 23 lol she was hotter then all those disillusion ugly hags online

[–]doubtless_abyss15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Welcome to adulthood

[–]hot_soup195 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Only because my life isn't complete in other ways. Shouldn't try to complete yourself through a woman. That's a lie of the media, something Christianity allowed for, but now Christianity isn't holding.

[–]tkoubek0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That's a good point

[–]capodonca6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

The Bitter Taste of the Red Pill

The truth will set you free, but it doesn’t make truth hurt any less, nor does it make truth any prettier, and it certainly doesn’t absolve you of the responsibilities that truth requires. One of the biggest obstacles guys face in unplugging is accepting the hard truths that Game forces upon them. Among these is bearing the burden of realizing what you’ve been conditioned to believe for so long were comfortable ideals and loving expectations are really liabilities. Call them lies if you want, but there’s a certain hopeless nihilism that accompanies categorizing what really amounts to a system that you are now cut away from. It is not that you’re hopeless, it’s that you lack the insight at this point to see that you can create hope in a new system – one in which you have more direct control over.

[–]MagnetoWned4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hell no. Love yourself and always work on your purpose in life (what you truly love and aspire to be) all I wish was that I found out about this sooner in life, or had a father figure that taught me these aspects!

[–]BurnoutRS3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The only reason you wish it wasnt so true is because a glaring aspect of the truth is the gap between where you are now, and where you need to be to be able to handle the truth.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don’t look at it as a disappointment but as a relief. Just think how women and society have set us up to believe in a fairy tale ending and that AWALT is not true. I’ve wasted a lot of time begging God that AWALT was false. We should not be mad at women for being women, but we should be mad that we were lied to by media telling us that there’s someone out there for everyone and no one is selfish. Everyone is out for themselves including us.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Doesn't excuse gratuitously shitty behavior.

[–]Aymane2214 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sometimes. Was lifting at the gym today and thought “what for”. Then I realized I ain’t Gona be a bump as bitch and kept pushing

[–]budosmacska3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Magnificent writing my friend. Kudos. I feel you 100 per cent. I am still overall thankful that I have become red pilled. Ever see these BP guys and know exactly what’s going to happen to them? It is a sad reality indeed but it’s no longer happening to you. And when you come across the bloke who was fucked over by his BP conditioning you can actually give give him a second chance at life.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I couldnt agree more. Except I want to tell you to fuck off for being right. I hate it even if it's true. The world is a fucked up place and we are in it. Still would rather live in reality than live in a false world as a pawn. Doesn't make it any easier.

[–]LordFa92 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

FWIW you are better off taking the pill now of your own free will and adapting at your own pace

In contrast to being blue pilled all your life, then getting divorced raped by your monkey branching wife and having trauma of the the veil being ripped away.

[–]Olram_Sacul2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Very well written, very sad true.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

No way. When you achieve enlightenment why would you want to go back into Plato’s cave?

Stop being a blue pill and rejoice that you are a self-aware man.

[–]Greeborox3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pfff... No. You say the child in you died but I can see it clearly whining in the post. Apparently the rp hasn't reached the system yet. What it gives you is the ability to finally look for joy in the right places instead of trying to reach fullfilment by apeassing women all your life.

[–]hmsthinkingmeat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You mention being Stoic, so:

"It is better by assenting to the truth to conquer opinion, than by assenting to opinion to be conquered by the truth."

In other words - would you rather not know the truth and have some bitch unexpectedly stab you in the back and wreck your life, or by knowing what they do in advance enjoy what they have to offer you without the drama and heartache?

Also the basic tenet of Stoicism is that the thing that makes people unhappy is that instead of accepting things as they are, or acknowledging what they have and just getting on with life and enjoying it, they spend their time being miserable over what they don't have or over how things aren't as they'd like them to be.

It is what it is and you can't do anything about it, so there's no point in lamenting over it.

[–]ugluk11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Note that TRP is only important to men, not to women, hence it is only a half problem. Women can do without TRP. For a long time they could cuck, shmuck men and it became a way of life. The cuckoldry. No DNA tests. As a doctor, you have a considerable pull on women, even without TRP. You make a good provider, AB and BB, have this in common. Hence, you could reproduce without TRP and that's all society cares about. Otherwise, men are a problem too. If there were no branches, where would she branch to? Dont concern yourself with women, study TRP humbly, just observe and, if you see the signs, branch to another woman.

[–]cornylamygilbert1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not reading your wall of text but I’ll say this:


it is how it is. wishing it weren’t that way is a fools errand.

That’s like wishing the earth rotated the opposite way.

Why is that worth your time?

[–]jijojayanth1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Truth is terrible but, not when compared to falsehood.

[–]RevolutionaryPea71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

No. The truth is out of my control and therefore irrelevant to my life. The only thing relevant to me is how I choose to deal with the truth.

[–]MatSapientia1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The romance we are raised to expect is the problem. Emotionally we are like a drug addict who took off drugs and moments come when we simply long for it. Extreme feminists ruined this generation so profoundly. TRP used to be how men and women were raised, so both genders didn’t have many sick romantic expectations. Love was naturally built on TRP principles that were common sense. Men didn’t see women as equals, women didn’t see that either. It was working fine since our monkey days, still does, just that our software is corrupted.

TRP gives you the truth, it doesn’t make the truth any less bitter, it wakes you up from the your cabinet of dreams. You’ll need time to get rid of all the cables plugged to your body and experience the reality of the world as is.

[–]NextForever1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like you do not have enough art, passion or nature in your life. These are the only true pathways to your inner child and finding yourself in others. There is no solace in money nor power, the perpetuating greed and complacency that ensues only distracts from the beauty in this universe. Camp for a week somewhere extremely isolated; let the fear to survive radiate throughout your soul and channel it towards your internal progression.

”For, after all, you do grow up, you do outgrow your ideals, which turn to dust and ashes, which are shattered into fragments; and if you have no other life, you just have to build one up out of these fragments. And all the time your soul is craving and longing for something else. And in vain does the dreamer rummage about in his old dreams, raking them over as though they were a heap of cinders, looking in these cinders for some spark, however tiny, to fan it into a flame so as to warm his chilled blood by it and revive in it all that he held so dear before, all that touched his heart, that made his blood course through his veins, that drew tears from his eyes, and that so splendidly deceived him!”


[–]Velebit1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

First of all you are still in college and you remember being a young man. Unless you were held back for a dozen years or so, you are still a young man.

Secondly, you attract the energy (psychological profiles) you emit. Being attracted to trp in the first place says something about you. Then talking about how you are sad and dissappointed with women not being this innocent, benign and altruistic creatures but not saying A FUCKING WORD about males... how your emotional system is hypocritical and it feels normal to you to have one set of rules for males and another set of rules for women says more about you.

Either have universal rules or don't! You are not allowed to differentiate between men or women and then act as if women are a monolith if humans are not. Sex exists for reproduction, not to itch a scratch. Reproduction exists because of gene mixing, not to make pet humans. Gene mixing exists to improve the next generation, not to add variety and flavor. The way the next generation is improved is by finding MUTATED GENES. Unusual humans. NAWALTS. Unicorns man. Your goal is not to have stimulation and maximise the ease of getting it and minimise resistance to getting it, your goal is the exact opposite.

If you want to be set free from feeling like a toad riding an elephant then read or listen videos about r vs K selected behaviors and learn how to avoid the r selected plebs who abide by the mainstream equality and freedom extrovert society.

[–]MindFuktd1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Book or video recommendations?

[–]Velebit0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Search r vs K selection on youtube and you will see loads of videos from Stefan Molyneux. There is also Edward Duttons channel which goes into evolutionary and biological underbelly of human behavior. For wider sociopolitical stuff you can read or listen to Rise and Fall of Empires from sir John Glubb.

If you want blackpills read Suicide Note by Mitchell Heisman or Protocols of Elders of Zion. I would not start with those, you might fall into depression or get cynical. You first need to feel motivated and determined.

[–]WalterEArmstrong0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

"Protocols of Elders of Zion"

A total hoax fabricate out of whole cloth.

[–]Velebit0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

What else can they say except it is fake. However, they lie. Read it, and judge its validify for itself.

You can say everything in the sidebar is also fake... All those game books are also fake? Women say stuff here is all wrong, invented, exaggerated, misrepresented, cherry picked or just false. How the FUCK do you know any of what you read here is based on reality? You read them and judge for your own fucking self.

After you read it, you can read what numerous Jewish sages whose existence is not in any dispute say and in much in the same style of what is said there. here is something to think about

[–]WalterEArmstrong0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This was cooked up by security service of that Czar of Russia back in the 19nth century. Do your homework.

[–]Velebit0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Whoosh. Read it bitch.

[–]WalterEArmstrong0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Read it yourself, asshole.

[–]Snowaey1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Of course it's heartbreaking when you've been taught the exact opposite your whole life, stay strong brother.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah reality sucks my friend, but you have to find things in life that you enjoy doing.

For me it's photography, graffiti, and getting tattoos.

I'm glad I found out about TRP though, it has taught me a lot.

The majority of men their only purpose in life is to find a girl and get married and all that bollocks. I was never into that shit even when I didn't know about TRP.

I'm just living my life on my own terms, I couldn't give a fuck what other people are doing.

Abundance is key.

Born alone, die alone.

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's never been a major problem, for myself. I enjoy human psychology and behaviour. I prefer knowing how things work, and being able to say 'yep, there it is', than be lost in a blue-pill illusion crying 'why oh why!?'

It's not so bad, happiness, fulfillment, accomplishments etc are all still possible...I just learnt that it all comes in different ways and paths than blue pill.

Does it really make any sense to think that you were going to find everything in some other person?

It's a bitch at first, because so many people are brainwashed with this lie, and pumped full of co-dependency. People can either wallow in disillusionment, or man up and say 'ok, cool. How do I play this game to the best of my ability'.

Red Pill gives you tools to maximise that. Once you get on the other side, and work towards amused mastery, it's not a hell-hole.

[–]0io-1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm always a lot happier knowing what's going on.

As a soon-to-be doctor, you know that with current medical technology we all die someday. But you don't let that depress you. That's the way it is.

It was probably kind of depressing to realize that the tooth fairy and Santa Claus were made up bullshit fairy tales, but you're not still upset about that, are you?

The blue pill Disney fantasy is just that. Girls dream that some Prince Charming is going to come and grant all their wishes. You have to leave all that fantasy behind.

Sure it would be "nice" if it were true, just like it would be nice if you always won the lottery and didn't have to do unpleasant things. At some point you have to leave your innocence behind and be happy being a man, not a boy.

[–]uwotm8910 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you think back to your blue pill life, you’ll see that those feelings you had were due to making a woman your main priority. Finding your soulmate/love of your life was the end all be all. Yes, it was nice to feel that puppy dog love, but you know now that it was never reciprocated. Not in any meaningful way at least.

One user has a great post series on relationships, and he has introduced his woman to redpill concepts. When a woman completely submits to your frame, you will have the most fulfilling relationship of your life.

The blue pill feeling of love is you submitting to a woman’s frame and completely losing yourself. When you actually sit yourself down and think about it, why would you ever yearn for something like that?

Lastly, when you become so overwhelmed with emotions, you’re taking on the feminine role in the relationship. No one says being a man is easy, especially when you consider the society most of us were born into, but embracing your manhood obviously will bring you more happiness than being a woman’s lap dog ever could.

[–]TheStumblingWolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wishing is irrelevant. Reality is what it is, and the only thing you can change is your reaction to it. I'm just glad someone finally told me the rules of the game, after having been a clueless schmuck for 30 years.

[–]RRBeachFG20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ignorance can be bliss, at least for a little while.

[–]pinaplejoose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I agree completely, which is why i hesitate to follow red pill to a t. Maybe the pill is lodged in the throat by my 17 year old naivistism but I like to think theres more to it then what rp preaches. Without a doubt there is truth to how we are to act to get the desired outcome of a girl, interaction, etc, but we are all human. And before I follow the rules of power and control I almost always let the facade fade away for the possibility of an actual human connection. But it almost always backfires. I still got some stuff to figure out but I like the power of truth when talking to people, it makes it feel real despite the delusion.

[–]Red_Pill_Brotherhood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The cold hard truth of TRP makes you better as a man. Knowing reality is better than ignorance is bliss. You can protect yourself better and not make as many mistakes. Sometimes I wish the fantasy land disney concept was true but we all know that isn't reality and is just a long lost blue pill voice. When we have the truth we can make better decisions in our lives. That's what the TRP is about.

[–]slamdunktiger860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Been there, it’s worse for me to take the red pill because I had serious issues with repeated maternal abandonment. It set me up for serious white knight beta blues until I woke up in the mid 20s.

All in all, as heart wrenching as enlightenment is, it is extremely liberating and returns me to a state of personal autonomy with the correct locus of control.

I’m a better man now to be a lover, boyfriend, husband, father, friend etc. Sure I could wish for easier and simpler times where virtue and trust are rewarded with nobility. But I rather have armament and armor all things being equal.

I have shotguns and more, but I never hope to use it. Insurance is always a tricky thing in general.

How is your relationship with your mom OP?

At least for me, I grew up practically an orphan. I have a black hole in me for unconditional female attention and care. I just never got it from my mom. It eats away at me it’s just my burden. With help and much introspection, I just deal. Occasionally I’ll overstretch myself beyond TRP but higher facilities save me from being a total cluster fuck.

I’m at peace that the chapter of life where peace and attention and unwavering love and support...are over. It’s okay. It just wasn’t in the cards for me.

One day when I find a great woman and have children, I’ll just quietly walk away into a corner or one of my cars and just sob because to see great joy and the security I’ll provide to it future family will probably re-open the fountain of humiliation, abandonment, neglect and abuse of childhood long lost.

It’s okay, it’s not my future partner’s fault nor my children’s.

For all the trauma and suffering, it has at least given me discernment and wisdom beyond my 32 years. I can’t be stolen from or lied to anymore. TRP and more was an inoculation against that.

We live the examined life brother. I don’t regret it. I am grateful not to be ignorant. We deal with the politics of daily life and more as it was meant to be—we deal in the possible and not what we idealize it to be.

It’s just what manhood has always been about. It’s okay. It’s simple but not easy. And that’s more than okay.

I’m not a cynic, I’m not jaded. I’m not just the romantic idealist I was as a young man, but I know how to marshal all of that through the quagmire and shit. At the end of the day, character and respect is the ultimate currency and for that, I will always choose the red pill over the fiat of hedonistic sterility and quaint sophistry imbued in the blue pill.

I don’t give a fuck whatever happens. I bring order to chaos. End of story.

I wish you well brother.

[–]throwawaybpdnpd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nope, I’ve accepted it and now taking advantage of it by being knowledgeable and experienced

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

but all the same much more hopeful, more emotional, more truly in love with women

You worded it perfectly. I miss those days of naivety. Now it's sad to think that the world really works in this way.

[–]RagBeerBela0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If i learned anything from TRP in a year and a half is to be happy about myself and the LITTLE THINGS. Go out for a walk in a park, listen to the birds, look at people laughing, watch the trees and how beautiful the nature is and just enjoy yourself. TRP is here to make your life better by encouraging YOU to MAKE yourself better, and the first step shouldn't be girls it should be your own mind. How you think is everything, learn to appreciate little stuff and the reality you see grim and dull will become much better.

[–]ElijahBurningWoods0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Don't wish things were easy, wish you were better.

[–]rolleN13370 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What you described here reminds me of the "Impostor syndrome".

[–]RedSkeller0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not only is this very well written but I can wholeheartedly agree. I find myself in a similar situation as of late, as I found the RP during a major rebuilding point a few years ago. And just like I had hoped, many of my wildest dreams came true and the RP was always painfully right. I find myself separated from my emotions and realizing how long I was chasing the dragon and have almost lost all interest in chasing ass, after a few years of having success. Love is a concept. What I’ve come to realize is I need to continue to challenge myself to feel satisfaction, so until I figure out the next move, I’m living in this realist purgatory.

[–]DeborahBinLaden0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women should only ever compliment a mans life, not be the focus of it.

You can be red pill aware and successful with women even with women as the focus.

Women should only ever compliment a mans life, not be the focus of it.

[–]legitoperator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus crist I could not read all of that. Congratulations this is how it feels to be unplugged.

You may think ignorance is bliss but it is not. Now that you know the rules of the game you are truely free.

[–]AceMav21-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Here you go fucker. “Boohooohooo I’m lance arms curl 30s I’m gunna ride my huffy into traffic”. First off buy a super sport bike and you won’t want to die on your commute. Next up take advantage of your mentality. Understand now you’re far less likely to get divorce raped for your doctor money🤙🏻👌.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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