How will sexlessness/singleness impact economy?

jax006 · 2019-05-11T03:17:14+00:00

I think the big thing will be years from now when we begin to see the effects of low birth rates. Retirement ages will go up, old people will proportionally be more of a burden on society than ever before, social security is donezo (although that's probably already a done deal), healthcare costs will go up high as there wont be enough young people producing in the healthcare industry for all the old people who consume

Also disenfranchised workers are just less productive, less ambitious ect. Also need less money with no family so less incentive to work as hard or as much

hot_soup19 · 2019-05-11T05:14:29+00:00

Men are not going to work beyond what is necessary. If working isn't leading to sex or family, why work? 30% of men haven't had sex in the last year? Lol, good luck......

Women work - a lot of their administrative positions can be cut or rolled into other positions.

So they'll import Mexicans for low skill and Chinese/Indians for mid/high skill I guess.

Wallstreet3 · 2019-05-11T02:35:41+00:00

Yep. Hence enjoy the decline. A man has two options.

Lower his living expenses so he can works as little as possible while having enough to invest in his hobbies to keep him busy.
Work his but off at the gym to be attractive to women. Constantly polishing his game with women. Beat female and male competition in college to get high-marks and then beat that same cohort to get the lucrative jobs. Keep tabs on social norms so he is part of the pack. Be in constant competition against other men for women as well as competition against the demands of women. Make good money and come home to do 'his share' of the domestic chores. Constantly keep her interested and fight against her own BS that may cause a divorce. Keep tabs on her to prevent parental fraud. And a host of other crap.

Option 1 leads to fun times. Option 2 leads to death by heart attack at 60, 5 years short of retirement.

Be a servant or be free...

Blonsomio · 2019-05-11T01:58:39+00:00

Women will pick up the slack, right?

guffynemo · 2019-05-11T02:43:58+00:00

Oh absolutely not

Now that women have all the jobs, that whole work-life balance and so forth means that productivity will dive.

Whereas governments spend and central banks lend like productivity will continue to ever increase at exponential rates like an aggressive form of cancer, even as the planet is starting to demonstrate that unbridled cancer is literally killing every living thing.

It's kind of like you have a credit card with galloping interest but you're not worried because you keep getting raises.

Imagine what happens when you lose your job.

Suck-Less · 2019-05-11T12:13:36+00:00

The sexless/singleness aspect is a byproduct not the source. Its the same with these school shootings, and online/real world gender wars. It’s the result of so many young men dropping out of college and the trades. That is the economic issue, not sex.

As long as our society continues to ignore these young men and socialize/educate them as though they are defective versions of girls there will be a serious problem coming. They grow up with minimal social skills and a near inability to talk/flirt with women.

The real question is: who will keep the infrastructure running when GenX retires. If you are expecting some magic automation to build a road, house or sig the coal, you are very wrong. We won’t see that kind of technology until it is too late.

Mr_Smoogs · 2019-05-11T02:52:26+00:00

Condos and urban developments will become more popular and desirable. White flight reverses as UMCs stop desiring suburban lifestyles over urban ones. Gentrification of neighborhoods.

DaphneDK42 · 2019-05-11T03:52:45+00:00

It will be a continuation of the current situation with baby boomers retiring. Consumption will go down, the housing market will take a hit, the stockmarket will take a hit, old folks will be fucked, deflation will rise, the USA will try to counter it by printing money - but mostly to no avail.

Here's a video: The Coming Retirement Crisis Explained and Explored

The USA is in a better place than most of the rest of the developed world though. Anyway, just buy a farm in Idaho or someplace far away from all the Jim-Jims, get a wife (buy one from Vietnam if you can't attract one yourself), have a bunch of kids, do your thing, concentrate on your family, and don't worry about the world, it'll sort itself out just fine.

Zippo-Cat · 2019-05-11T04:42:41+00:00

These changes take so long and are so subtle that no one is really going to notice and it will all be blamed on "unsustainable capitalism" or something.

itsokma · 2019-05-11T06:25:53+00:00

Immigrants fix that problem.

just look around any major city. In the US, it's mostly Central americans and Asians having kids and working and doing all the things older white people did in the 50s

its a reason why globalists and neo-liberals like immigration and why the political climate is tense since native people are starting to see through the con.

TheSuperStink · 2019-05-11T07:27:45+00:00

We'll see 50 more superhero movies released every year.

Million-Suns · 2019-05-11T03:23:06+00:00

Productivity won't decline , as AI , automation and robotization in general will totally replace humans.

Consumption of many products will however indeed decline.

pngmafia97 · 2019-05-11T04:13:03+00:00

In China, men currently outnumber women by 30+ million, so naturally there is an excess of single men.

We can observe the economic consequences there as a model of how sexlessness affects the economy. Of course taken with a grain of salt as there are other relevant dynamics that wouldn't apply to Western countries.

Results from our dynamic modelling suggest that, depending on the tendency for low-skill women to “marry up” and to choose second partnership with wealthy men over marriage to poor ones, by 2030 the number of low-skill men of reproductive age that is unmatched will be between 27 and 50 million, and still growing. Though this is sure to result in rising trafficking of women from other East Asian countries, the number is simply too large for female immigration to allow a return to balance.

Source: https://www.thechinastory.org/chinas-gender-imbalance-and-its-economic-performance/

Re: negatively affected industries -- single people still spend money, but in different ways.

Some say that they spend less than married people. Indeed, singletons eat in restaurants or go shopping less than married ones, but this does not mean they don't spend money. They tend to buy things online and order take-out food.

Source: http://www.bjreview.com/Opinion/201709/t20170911_800104411.html

Other articles on the subject:

https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/2142658/too-many-men-china-and-india-battle-consequences

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/04/women-in-china-contribute-more-to-gdp-than-in-the-us-viewing-them-as-leftover-is-problematic/

squiddy_s550gt · 2019-05-11T11:43:44+00:00

Let women work more and pay more in taxes. That's kinda what they want want, and they already love to spend.

Sure allot of guys are checking out and living cheap, but that's not much less productive then sahm of the past.

This could be a great thing for men

poppy_blu · 2019-05-11T14:21:27+00:00

What's your solution? Because this topic is being posted daily here now, and none of you seem to have a solution that doesn't entail "women should be forced to fuck and date men they don't want."

What about making prostitution legal? Incels are like "eeeewwww!"

What about changing our cultural views on men as providers? TRPs are like "stop trying to feminize us!"

What is it you want?

reluctantly_red · 2019-05-11T07:19:02+00:00

The sky will not fall. The 30% or so sexless single men will continue working at their drone level jobs just low level guys always have. They'll make few demands on the system. They'll die quietly and early.

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FatmanSlim93 · 2019-05-11T03:24:24+00:00

Depends on how automation goes, if it can replace enough jobs then we might be ok, if not we probably will have problems

Willow-girl · 2019-05-11T05:31:18+00:00

More poverty. Two really can live (almost) as cheaply as one ...

[deleted] · 2019-05-11T06:38:03+00:00

I can answer this one as I live this lifestyle.

Industries that rely on couples will definitely go down. But the things that historically single people have bought will continue to be bought.

Even single men will continue to work as living on welfare/UBI pays little and at least a job is something to do during the week. However being overly ambitious will be a thing of the married men rather than single men. So married men and all women will work all the high paying jobs that ambitious people go for.

Single men will still want to buy their xbox, laptops, maybe a decent single bedroom apartment (maybe in a favourable area), porn/hookers. So this idea that men will quit their jobs and be minimalists is just not seeded in reality.

But these men will not be overly ambitious and provided they earn enough in their 40 hr jobs they can tell their boss to hell with them if they want them to work more. The married men will work these long hour careers (60-80 hrs) to support their families and will spend the most. Women (who all have a reason to work hard) will work these hours too and get the high salaries.

mydikishomofobik · 2019-05-11T08:45:39+00:00

Single men have less incentive to work to support a wife's consumerism. But now more women are working to support their own lifestyles. 1950s housewives used to spend their husbands' money. Now there are more single women working and spending their own money.

LCOSPARELT1 · 2019-05-11T13:24:26+00:00

I think a lot of men in America should get used to the idea of emigrating to new countries. If low SMV males stay in America they are not going to thrive. Period. We can’t force women to love men they don’t want to love. The 19th century is over and it isn’t coming back.

So we have an over supply of basically decent, beta males looking for love and career opportunities in an America that isn’t going to offer them either. Time to start leaving. Work your ass off for 3-5 years doing almost anything, save $30,000 or so and then head somewhere else for a fresh start. The alternative is to stay here, work a menial job for decades, or get in some form of disability, and live in loneliness.

jackandjill22 · 2019-05-11T19:26:13+00:00

You're retarted if you think that everyone only lives for relationships.

mojobytes · 2019-05-11T20:35:16+00:00

men with less prospects of family life or relationships are less incentivized to work hard.

Also to care about how an economy that only takes from them is functioning.

[deleted] · 2019-05-11T20:45:04+00:00

You will just see more stratification like is happening in every other part of society. There will be sexual haves and have nots. Men with soft harems, urban metrosexual players, CEOs with multiple sugar babies... and a big soupy mass of sexually unsuccessful men. Be they incels, omegas, failed betas, or married men being cucked and friendzoned by their wives.

This will dovetail and reinforce existing stratification trends in the economy, the men at the top will have more money, better jobs, etc and the men at the bottom will just have porn, drugs, vidya and welfare cheques. An undersexed men is either a demotivated man, or an extremely motivated man who will break into the top or die trying.

czerdec · 2019-05-12T09:55:04+00:00

If Japan is an example, it will affect the economy in the same way that salt affects a slug.

0kool74 · 2019-05-12T16:56:56+00:00

45, 6-figure job, no kids and never married.....and with the way Ameriskanks are today both of those will stay at never. AI won't phase out my job either because I actually write the AI.

Having said all that though, what you're positing is YEARS away from taking hold in the states as well as most other Western countries. There's like what.......some 330 million people in the US right now??? Marriage and divorce are still billion dollar yearly industries because men will still be stupid thinking they've found "the one", and women will still file divorces because hubby isn't the "Chad" that made her panties wet and fall off. You can look at Japan as a more appropriate example right now for your theory, but it's not gonna happen in the US anytime soon. I figure it'll probably hit the UK or Australia before then because their feminazi society is at a more advanced stage than the US even with the #metoo debacle.

I read Jack Donovan's Enjoy The Decline not too long ago, and it's a very apropos for this. So pop some popcorn, sit back and relax with a smile, kick the Stone Sour at 120dB and let the whole world burn!

FieldLine · 2019-05-12T19:50:21+00:00

You're also neglecting that young, sexually frustrated men are more susceptible to suggestion, particularly when they are promised the sexual companions they desire if are willing to allahu akbar themselves.

Glawen_Clattuc · 2019-05-11T07:27:09+00:00

... many industries will be negatively impacted: restaurants, travels, fashion, jewelry, cars, housing etc.

How do you figure this out?

All other things being equal, single people in employment are more likely to have more disposable income than people with families.

Single people are therefore a kind of straight equivalent of the 'pink pound' i.e. the disposable income that especially younger LGBT folks may have.

So everything in your list could actually benefit, not lose out.

beachredwhine · 2019-05-11T02:47:36+00:00

Sexlesness? I mean I hate to break it to you internet bros but in reality, in the real world, not reddit, guys are not sexless. Guys and gals are busy dating, marrying, and making cute little babies all over the place. The echo chambers that the internet has allowed to form are warping your view of reality. Most men are not struggling to date. Most men are not virgins.

Title	How will sexlessness/singleness impact economy?
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