Who Are the Women of Red Pill? Vice wrote an article.

VigilantRedRooster · 2017-04-19T20:42:44+00:00

This is EXACTLY why we warn our members to be cautious about accepting interviews from the media. They behave much like concern trolls, pretending to care, when it's only a pretext to gather information to complete what has already been decided to be a slam piece.

Here is what she wrote to me when I expressed our skepticism about her intentions.

Thank you for your response! I’m sorry it took me a little while to get back to you; I’m new to Reddit and am struggling with the entire format of it all. How is the Manosphere, as celebrated on Reddit, different to what it is the men that Jaye interviewed were protesting for?

I understand and respect your skepticism. I genuinely wish not to be disingenuous. Whilst my original piece was focused almost exclusively around interviewing a member of your community, I have spent the last few days doing a fairly extensive bit of research into your way of thinking and I’m genuinely curious as to whether or not it can comfortably apply to me.

So - with full disclosure - the premise of my article will now be something along the lines of: what it’s like living as a RPW for a week, and seeing how my happiness, and overall life changed as a result.

You will see with my portfolio that I am quite specifically a feminist writer (www.madisongriffiths.tumblr.com/articles). Whilst you might find that off-putting, I think it’s a perfect opportunity for me to compare both ways of life. I have spoken to my partner, and he is happy to partake as well. Therefore, I require little to no personal information off you or any of your members - just assistance, per se. I’m going to study your forums, and see how I can apply those rules into my everyday life.

Thank you for your time, and know that I’m going to approach this with sensitivity and curiousity.

radioactivities9 · 2017-04-19T19:43:43+00:00

Terribly misconstrued and biased as expected. Just some author virtue signalling how much she cares and knows about women's rights and responsibilities at heart.

i_have_a_semicolon · 2017-04-19T21:05:52+00:00

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artsyluna · 2017-04-20T03:47:12+00:00

I don't think an article about RPW really matters to us since we're anonymous anyway. The writer is free to make an interpretation however she sees fit, whether we see it as disingenuous or not. The proof is in the pudding; as long as these strategies work for us, they are worth sticking to. Her opinion on the matter is of little concern.

testmypatience · 2017-04-19T19:45:12+00:00

Woman I reached out was careful and reluctant to talk with me. "In general, the only interest we see from writers is in gathering material for a hit piece," one said.

The article says this early on which is hilarious because that is exactly what the author of the article did.

Perhaps there is some comfort in convincing oneself that you aren't an oppressed person. That, in order to avoid sexual assault, for example, you can just be more responsible.

Not sure why people say you are blaming a victim when they had things they could do to prevent their situation. You don't leave your car or home unlocked and just blame criminals for stealing your stuff. You don't walk in a bad part of town with fancy clothes on or flashing cash and then blame the criminals for mugging them. You don't go to a foreign place that is known to have tons of pick pockets and then get mad at the pick pockets because they stole your stuff.

You would instead lock your car and home, not walk around dressed fancy and flashing cash in a bad neighborhood, and would secure your pocket stuff in a pickpocket safe way using the appropriate under shirt wallet or whatever else you need to do to stay protected.

A person must minimize their danger on their own. You can't just assume bad people are going to be good people just because you bitch at them to be or threaten them with a prison sentence.

Speaking candidly with Lauren—a proud member of the Red Pill Woman community—only proved something I already knew: there is no right way to be a woman.

There is however best practices that are going to give you the best results on average compared to going the other routes.

akanachan · 2017-04-19T22:58:20+00:00

What a hilarious myopic article!

RedPillWomen preaches an old-fashioned approach to relationships. Like, archaic. "RedPillWomen… advise that unless you want to have sex with a man, try to [engage only in] dates that are not conducive to sexual activities," Lauren explains.

The article's author says this, as if being old-fashioned is a bad thing lol

I have enough experience with LTRs (relationships ranging from 1 year to 6 years) and dating in general, to confidently say being firmly old-fashioned is how I have avoided the problems that are plaguing other women my age.

Banincoming · 2017-04-20T00:42:39+00:00

Use archive.is. Don't give clicks to these scum who hate you.

okaygirl123 · 2017-04-19T23:25:24+00:00

"There is nothing edgy or revolutionary about the sentiments celebrated by Red Pill Women. They are, largely, a group of women who only superficially understand the intentions of the gender equality movement. That's it." - She sounds so young and completely ignorant that equality does not mean sameness. It means to have respect for the person in front of you no matter who they are or how they live because their experience is equal to yours, despite not being the same. The author has a lot to learn about life.

funny_lyfe · 2017-04-19T20:18:14+00:00

I remember this tool contacting me awhile back for her article. I'm glad I declined to be interviewed. You should read some of her other stuff. It's equally cringe-inducing.

NikoMyshkin · 2017-04-20T07:20:27+00:00

nd, because those contributing to the hateful discussion on RedPillWomen are indeed women, their input gives men permission to continue to abuse, mock and humiliate women who speak out against it.

curiously she never mentions one of the most frequent advice in here: learn your value and never put up with men who abuse, mock, or humilliate you 😅...............

MarquisDePaid · 2017-04-20T05:52:33+00:00

Madison Griffiths is upset about the little goyimettes thinking for themselves? That must mean you all are doing the right thing.

Willow-girl · 2017-04-20T07:20:39+00:00

This article made me so angry! A couple of years ago I felt very depressed and confused; several things converged in my life around the same time to lead me out of it, and one of those was RPW. RP gave me the most valuable tool which was to understand that I am in control of my life.

I know what it is like not to feel welcome in a feminist space and rpw functions as a place for female empowerment.

This idea that RPW is "a online home for thousands of defeated women jealous of that girl at their high school with impeccably long legs" is demonstrably false, and unfortunately for you Ms. Griffiths I have extremely nice legs.

amethyst92 · 2017-04-20T00:25:29+00:00

This comment about her ( http://imgur.com/a/BMWva ) on another 'article' of hers pretty much sums her up. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3770177/Melbourne-feminist-vegan-Madison-Griffiths-refuses-eat-meat.html)

This, ladies, is what happens when you sincerely have nothing of value to contribute to society besides 'think pieces' that take zero thought and don't help anyone think. I'm considering writing her a message letting her know that her work has zero integrity...

HelloNeo · 2017-04-19T22:07:45+00:00

Honestly, who cares? Just seek your own happiness. Those who truly understand and follow RP principles needn't worry about what others say. If you're happy, or happier than before RP, why would you allow someone's ignorant opinion on TRP get to you? This post and article are unnecessary. Creates unnecessary stress, friction, and drama.

NikoMyshkin · 2017-04-20T00:14:18+00:00

I just don't get why people are so hateful toward people they don't even know. This article blows me away. :(

2017-04-20T07:54:33+00:00

I do think that the tides are slowly turning, I'm in a large local group on facebook and regularly see people with their real names and faces making fun of feminists. I used to be afraid of speaking out against these thousands of idiots because they have went out of their way to destroy people's lives. Now I regularly reference the White Feather Campaign and the story of Erin Pizzey.

teaandtalk · 2017-04-20T00:58:43+00:00

Because those contributing to the hateful discussion on RedPillWomen are indeed women, their input gives men permission to continue to abuse, mock and humiliate women who speak out against it.

If a woman wants to participate in some good old fashioned misogyny, she has every right.

Even the best of intentions get screwed up "Lauren". You tried, but you would have been doing the community a bigger favor by not talking to her at all.

radioactivities9 · 2017-04-19T19:53:21+00:00

Chad will be so upset when he finds out he didn't get mentioned at all. Chad lost out to LMR. That's a first. Chad always beats LMR.

crownoffeathers · 2017-04-20T02:10:44+00:00

I am very new to this sub but I do frequently see anti-woman comments (usually insisting RPW be a certain way, and if they're not, they're not red pill and should be dismissed). They are usually deleted or downvoted quite promptly, but they still dilute the core message which seems to be of self-awareness and self-improvement.

bowie747 · 2017-04-19T20:31:18+00:00

Is this kind of like how "The Red Pill" movie was all about men's right activists?

I used to like Vice when they were independent. They've completely cucked out now.

NikoMyshkin · 2017-04-20T10:46:47+00:00

At least link to an archived copy so as to not give them revenue.

deathbypurple · 2017-04-20T09:10:07+00:00

That article on women being the same as animals or something is so disgusting. Animals are animals, people are people... and the reasoning, Freud must be spinning in his grave... she must be very damaged in the head...

teaandtalk · 2017-04-19T22:53:33+00:00

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Princessmarijayne · 2017-04-20T18:38:07+00:00

Why do u all just want to be a trophy for fucking. I don't understand. You are all capable of being strong, independent women who can do things themselves. I don't get it. How are you bettering yourselves by becoming submissive to your mans needs.

Title	Who Are the Women of Red Pill? Vice wrote an article.
Author	funny_lyfe
Upvotes	42
Comments	109
Date	April 19, 2017 7:23 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
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