Why would a high-quality man marry?

pearlsandstilettos · 2018-02-16T00:53:52+00:00

Gentlemen: Please include in your answers why some men may be interested in marriage as that is the OPs question. It is important for the women here to understand both sides of this issue. If you say only that you would never marry, that will be considered low effort and you will be asked to revise or delete.

Guywithgirlwithabike · 2018-02-16T01:14:07+00:00

Women collaborate and men compete. They compete with the intention of winning, and thus climbing the various hierarchies that constitute our society.

They devise their individual strategies for winning using logic and reason - not emotion. Emotion (in the general sense, so including lust and passion) may dictate who a man wants to sleep with or who they're fond of, but it doesn't sway the conscious decision to marry.

The only reason a man seeking to advance himself would marry is if he reasonably believes that he will advance further or faster as a married man than a bachelor.

Depending on his personal situation, different criteria will determine if a given woman advances his goals in his estimation.

A woman that is wise and prudent with money is superior to a profligate spender or a gold-digger in this respect.

A woman that can (and is willing to) maintain his household will free up his time and attention to focus on conquering the world - hence its emphasis on this board.

A woman that is presentable, sociable, mindful of her appearance, and charming is a positive reflection on him and valuable ally when networking for professional and social advancement.

A woman that is caring, intelligent, and nurturing will be seen as a good mother to his children, if building a legacy is his idea of advancement.

A woman that is trustworthy, thoughtful, and respectful can provide valuable counsel when a man is struggling to decide between two or more mutually exclusive paths in his climb to the top.

It may clash with a woman's hope for a romantic love story to view things in such cold terms, but it's worthwhile to view courtship like a series of job interviews.

When you're interviewing for a job, you're essentially trying to convince the business that they are more likely to achieve their goals (profit) with you than without you - "Hire me for $100k/year and I will earn you $1mil/year".

If you want a man to want to marry you, you want to convince him that as great as he already is, he'll be an even better man with you at his side.

Men and women want different things in life, and a high-value man will know this, either intuitively or explicitly. Give him a sales pitch he'd be a fool to turn down, and he'll give you the story book romance you've always dreamed of.

[deleted] · 2018-02-16T02:45:59+00:00

My husband is high quality. Marriage aligns with his moral values , he also believes it offers better support to him then just having a girlfriend. Being married is also a sign of prestige for men in many cultures. Guys who remain unmarried aren't shunned but are usually viewed as not serious in the workplace and alot of social situations. Not saying there's anything wrong with being a male and not being married tho! Where I'm from (Lebanon) if you are male and not married by 30 you are viewed as a childish and avoidant of responsibility, marriage over there is a sign of prestige but also helps bond families in business deals and via mutual aid as you tend to live with your new family in a communal home. There's also dowry. Alot or incentives. Over in the US I don't see much for men however.

WhatIsThisAccountFor · 2018-02-16T02:33:45+00:00

Why they would: because they want children and to see their genes survive/thrive.

What would make them want to marry a specific woman? Her being someone who can contribute to his life in a meaningful way. Some men value intelligence, some value passion, some value support, but most of all I’d say high value men value loyalty and effort. Someone to make you feel happy and purposeful, even when things aren’t going well.

What’s in it for them? Some of the above, but for marriage specifically, honestly not much. Everything good about marriage for men seems to be dissipating. Woman are pregressivelt losing their role in marriage, while men’s roles remain unchanged. Then if their marriage ends, they are going to lose more then the woman 90% of the time. Usually the only real positive of actual marriage for men are family/religious reasons, tax breaks, and making the woman happy.

What point would they want this? When they find a woman who improves their quality of life, and they are in a position to give that woman the life they feel she deserves.

High quality men don’t want a woman who’s only value is that she exists and can be fucked. They want someone to improve their quality of life. If all you have to offer to a man is looks and sex, you won’t be around long. Those things are replaceable. These are so heavily focused on by RPW users because without these things you can’t have a relationship. Your partner has to be attracted to you, and without sex, or sexual desire you can’t be more than friends. They are the bare minimum requirements to be attractive and sexually available, not the main qualities to garner commitment.

L0git3x · 2018-02-16T15:37:52+00:00

Because my wife is my team mate and I can do better with the two of us splitting up things to who does them better.

Worked for the past 27 years.

2 IS better than one.

I am an executive. We own our house. we bought our boat cash. we have zero debt. we own all our cars.

I work. She takes care of everything around the house.
We have three kids that are teenagers who arent rebellious at all. They are actually great people. (it is because of her NOT me - remember to who is good at a particular thing. They do it primarily)

These people talk about lifting and all this other stuff.

That is easy mode and you can tell the age of average posters around here are mid 20s.

n count and spinning plates is fine when you are a child and your goals are simple.

Even MRP isnt the answer. (those are kids too. Ive listened to their podcast. Where their wife is a child. Sounds like religious nonsense. Pick a BETTER wife)

Im talking RP 2.0

there is NOTHING better for me. Sitting back at almost 50. Ive done better than my peer group. Would have NOT be possible with out my partner.

young_x · 2018-02-16T01:25:19+00:00

Generally speaking, men don't want the marriage per se, they want the woman. Obviously, the more options he has, the more she'd need to offer to be worth staying with exclusively. Marriage means shouldering more responsibilities.

My guess is that any exceptions who explicitly have marriage as a goal had very positive childhood environments/experiences and expect to provide that for their own kids, so that might fall under family goals more than being a goal itself.

[deleted] · 2018-02-16T09:13:04+00:00

2 parent households with a SAHM generally yield a higher IQ for the child by default and generally help avoid long term mental illnesses.

Children are why people are here. 2 stable parents whom are committed to each other ensure the children have the best possible chance at positive outcomes.

Unfortunately, it's being abused.

Any high quality man worth his salt will want to have kids and ensure for his family the best possible chance for success.

Whisper · 2018-02-16T02:16:39+00:00

Commitment and marriage are two very different things.

Commitment is an emotional state existing inside a man... his inclination to stay with you and have a future together.

Marriage is a set of legal obligations, defined, and subsequently redefined, by a society. Notice that I didn't say "rights and obligations", because modern marriage includes no rights for the man whatsoever.

Commitment can have many advantages for a man. Marriage has none.

Thus, commitment can be something that men want, despite being the gatekeepers of it (just as women can want sex). Marriage is not something men want, just something they are sometimes willing to do.

husheveryone · 2018-02-16T21:36:18+00:00

Marriage and having children is highly normative amongst straight Alpha American male members of the urban professional classes who are in their 30s and 40s and beyond. The Trumps are a great example, as are the Romneys, and the Bush Family, and their ilk. This cohort has the lowest rates of divorce, and typically use pre-nups.

Married men, in general, report better health outcomes than single men, particularly as they age, with good wives to help them go see their doctors regularly, particularly the unpleasant health screenings that need to be done after age 50.

The many tax and estate succession benefits of marriage make it very financially attractive.

My late husband really enjoyed being hands on in the process of us getting engaged and married; all the masculine rites of passage and family traditions that went along with it. Great memories.

illisit · 2018-02-16T02:16:01+00:00

On top of some of the other great comments, high quality men are less likely to be degenerates who enjoy watching the world burn, at least not publicly.

thefisherman1961 · 2018-02-16T16:42:18+00:00

Tax break

Kiddingyoself · 2018-02-17T03:40:46+00:00

If a man wants children, presumably he wants healthy, happy, successful, children. By far the best way to have & rear children is to marry their mother.

If a man doesn't want children, he may very well not want to get married. Or he may put it off until he fears dying alone.

Littleknownfacts · 2018-02-16T01:08:30+00:00

High quality relationship minded women will want and expect marriage. A man who takes that off the table is limiting his options. If a man wants a top tier woman he needs to be willing to give her something she needs, otherwise she will seek it elsewhere.
High quality men are expected to marry by their peers. An unmarried man is not as well respected in the hierarchy of mixed social groups. If he's getting a ton of hot strange he might get respect from some envious men, but single guy won't get invited to couples dinner parties.
Similar to point 2, unmarried men suffer at work too. They are less likely to be promoted and earn less money over their lifetimes. Having a wife makes a man seem more reliable and responsible. Besides, having a wife to grease the wheels with your bosses wife doesn't hurt.

loneliness-inc · 2018-02-15T23:22:35+00:00

This is a question that ought to be asked more often. The answer to this question should be one of the foundational principles of RPW.

Society and the legal system today is what brought about TRP in the first place. Men didn't invent TRP because they were happily married. No, men invented TRP because they've been treated miserably and this just keeps getting worse.

metoo and the like will push this even further into MGTOW-land. Many men will stop pursuing women even just for casual flings. Why risk ruining your life and losing your job just for a few minutes of fun? It's becoming less and less worth it.

A man might still want to marry for religious reasons, because he still believes strongly in traditional family values or because he believes in "the one" (who's eternal and will never cheat or backstab him).

A man who decides to marry in today's day and age is taking on a tremendous risk. Respect that and treat him accordingly. Don't be an entitled princess.

Rivkariver · 2018-02-16T21:08:43+00:00

Passing on their genes, wanting a woman to inspire and push them to greatness, the benefits of family. It’s often important to image and career. The benefits of regular access to one woman. Lots of Christian high value men believe in marriage. I consider monogamous men higher value than men trying to get many women. The latter hasn’t grasped that women don’t make him a man.

NewMindRedPill · 2018-02-16T00:00:16+00:00

From what I've seen, a lot of high-quality men start to think about marriage around the time that their friends are getting married or having children.

That is usually around 27-32 in my area.

It can be even sooner if the man comes from a traditional home with Red Pill immigrant parents that promote earlier marriage (like asian immigrants or in the Muslim community).

So why? Societal pressure, wanting to have children, and finding a good mother for his children are generally the reasons.

Since I was 21 I've only seriously considered older guys for dating. I haven't dated someone under 25 since I was 20. As a result, I maximized my search for a high quality guy by focusing on guys who were about to or are in the stage of looking to create a family.

I think dating a guy your own age is a higher risk (although there are exceptions! Dont point it out I know).

Same age or younger guys are a risk because:

-they are less likely to be in the mindset to commit

-they might not even have thought of starting a family

-waiting until they reach that age means your SMV will decrease while their RMV increases.

-You risk things not working out at a higher age.

-They might end up looking for someone younger once they reach that age.

-Waiting a long time for a guy to propose while acting like a wife (living with him, sex, chores, etc) makes him less likely to propose.

There are always exceptions but this is the general trend I've seen

I've focused on guys who were in their late 20s and were high quality. I think 70% expressed long term interest after a couple of dates and many asked me subtle questions to figure out how Id be as a wife/mother. My bf is 28 and I just turned 25. Everyone around him is getting married like crazy and just a couple of days ago he asked my ring size. I believe he is high value. He is tall, highly intelligent, very kind, great job and constantly being promoted, former college athlete, with plans to buy his second house in 2 years. he is a total dork in private btw but I love it. I was there at the right time when he was looking for someone to settle down with and plus I made sure to always look as good as possible and be super friendly. He wants children and loves to look at the baby pictures of his neice and nephews. He's got baby fever and knows I'm going to be a good mother and wife. It also helps that we love each other and have the same life values/goals.

That is one of the main reasons, to me, a high quality man will marry.

MenLoveBitches · 2018-02-16T12:29:48+00:00

TL;DR: some men want to legally/ideologically lock down a partner and be able to expect her to provide certain services; he wants to care for a family better from a legal standpoint, or take certain legal advantages; he wants to feel generous (or just show off as better than the poors) in a role as a provider

Answering this based on my experience as a non-religious, pragmatic woman, in a LTR with a man that I considered high-quality due to his IQ and talent being high despite his upbringing:

There are legal reasons to marry. I initially avoided marriage because I was doing well on my own and it wouldn't give a tax or benefits advantage for me. My health insurance from work covered him even if we weren't married. However, if we eventually have children and if he ever earns more than me, it'll help then for his taxes and for his legal right to care for his family, so I gave in to marrying. We of course have a pre-nup, because my family was concerned about me marrying someone who was lower class, uneducated, and currently a lower earner, despite him having more potential as an earner because he's male. He's been told by industry people that he should be earning 2-3x what I am based on demand, but so far has never had a job like that. Men who are married or have children may also be paid more based on that status alone, as some men that I know who have married while working full-time have been given bonuses and raises for marriage or having kids. I'm not aware of a woman earning that.

Ideologically, some men have a drive to have and care for a committed partner and children. Reasons why it brings them satisfaction might vary, but part of it is feeling magnanimous in a role as a provider. I can understand, as I've been there. This seems to be his reason for marrying, as he's always wanted marriage and wanted to be a provider, and said that he would be happy for me to quit formally working to focus on my own projects. He also has a fear of separating, and has wanted an ideological commitment, which I've agreed to given our history together and preferences for each other.

However, he has never been proven as a provider and has expressed desires to be self-employed in risky areas, hoping that his career may take off that way. I was supportive of this for some years in exchange for him offering me support in my work as I paid 90% of the bills, so I experienced taking pride in a provider role. However, he continuously failed to do what he said that he would do in a support role, and taking my time to help him with his ambitions was hurting my career and what was usually our only source of income. I'm encouraging him in making changes one way or the other, that one can't essentially not provide and also take, because he should realize this not only doesn't live up to his words (and thus what he wants me to expect), but this isn't stable and isn't going to help either one of our ambitions, because money is always needed to fulfill those.

Traditional marriage is a partnership where services are exchanged. The pride of the provider role is also tied to an expectation that a partner will not only bring them joy, but will fulfill a certain role. That will vary by man, but it's usually at least expected that you'll spend regular time together at their choosing and will step in to help where he can't.

The thing that middle-class people traditionally aspire to is the life of the upper class: a Lord has an estate and he marries a Lady to help him manage it while he spends time pursuing his interests. This was a typical idea that they aspired to in marriage, and hence the middle-class pride in being able to provide for a woman so that she didn't work. This is a misunderstanding, as Ladies did indeed work, but it was in managing their husband's resources, which were considerable. This is how the middle-class also sought to elevate themselves above the lower, where the wife also worked, in cottage industry if nothing else, but often outside the home in industry or mining (women were small and fast) or as a servant, etc.

[deleted] · 2018-02-17T23:55:31+00:00

As a divorced man with a career, education, and money, reasons I wanted to marry were:

To come home to a person I could trust and carry an intelligent conversation with.

A partner of equality who is as ambitious as I and doesn’t need/want my money other than for mutual benefit.

Someone who shared the same values.

Someone who shared the same interests and weren’t simply faking until the ring was on.

Someone who didn’t need a ring to feel validated.

Someone I could travel with.

Someone who didn’t want kids or pets due to the constraining nature of either one.

Not having to constantly put money and time into dating other people instead of pursuing career goals.

A truly loyal companion who wasn’t hung up on monogamy, on either of our parts, defining marriage, and who would be willing to stay in open communication regarding other people.

Someone who fully understood marriage is ultimately a business contract.

Someone also working toward retiring early and who realized pooling equal resources has great benefits long term.

Unfortunately, due to the laws and divorce courts, and the abysmal cost-benefit analysis of getting married in today’s society, I wouldn’t ever do it again.

It’s not that I want to be single, it’s just too risky right now. It sucks that’s the way it is, but I have to live in the reality that is now, not the reality I’d like to live in.

MadSparty · 2018-03-26T04:09:26+00:00

Dude here. Marriage (not at all the government issued variety, and to some extent the religious depiction) is in my mind a contract between man and woman to intertwine the lives of each to get the most happiness today, tomorrow, and the indefinite future. The marriage contract allows both man and woman to be greater than the sum of their parts if left as singular entities.

I also want kids bad. The research on the benefits of two parent households is crystal clear, and I want my kids to succeed and thrive. A male leader and a female nurturer is the perfect dichotomy to allow children to manifest their full potential once they reach adulthood.

Finally, life is hard and riddled with suffering. Knowing someone always has your back and puts you as their priority is incredibly motivating for either partner. Also, if both partners are intellectual powerhouses, they'll be able to keep each other focused and sharp for whatever mental roadblocks present themselves.

That answers the questions, but would like to provide my opinion on plate-spinners, MGTOWs, or other non-marriage-minded men. Given all the benefits I know about it (assuming a proper woman can be found), only stupid or insane men would choose not to commit to a single woman.

PatnarDannesman · 2018-02-16T10:26:50+00:00

You get older. You grow tired of the bar and club scene. You get tired of the dating scene. You get tired of the games. You just want to settle down with a constant woman who will cook, clean, wash, iron and have sex with you.

Also, someone that can give you children. The biological imperative.

md8716 · 2018-02-16T14:23:35+00:00

I'm only speaking for myself, but I originally never planned on being a family man, but now that I'm in the middle of it, I absolutely live for the challenge of being the leader and patriarch of a successful clan.

What's in it for me? I relish the challenge of having the balls to attempt what other men are afraid of, succeeding where other men constantly fail.

RedPill_Swinger · 2018-02-16T11:09:23+00:00

To have children.
To have a partner (which is highly unlikely since women in the aggregate want to be lead)
As a sign of gratitude for her being meaningful to him.

Now this being said if you women won't rise against THIS kind of marriage and family laws, high quality men will keep running away from it.

sat_ta · 2018-02-16T10:22:41+00:00

I'll bite. I perceive myself as a high-quality man. I'm athletic, good-looking face, 6'4", academic degree, make a six figure salary and i've had enough women in my youth to fill the caspian sea with them. I get a LOT of female attraction from every age, even now in my fourties. So what in the world made me commit to marriage?

It's because i wanted children and a heritage. I come from a big family and it was clear to me from an early age that i want to become the new patriarch of the extended family one day. So after i was settled financially in my job, i married a very lovely and beautiful woman and two years later another so that the two have company and i have a way to get many children. I have six children today. This is not unusual in my cultural circle. I'm not very religious.

(I'm aware that the western world and reddit especially is super-agitated when it comes to polygamy and cries the loudest about opression blabla yadda yadda. What is serial-monogamy with multiple children from different partners if not a de-facto polygamy? At least we are honest about it and don't dispose of older women.)

I'm older now (40+) and looking back i wouldn't change a thing. I like being a father to smart and strong boys and i also like to protect my daughters from the idiocies of western culture where sluts are good women. Yes, i settled down for this, but i don't regret a minute of it. I've had my good share of women but only in leading a family, i found my passion.

But back to your question: I was ready for marriage when i was financially settled and had a genuine feeling that i've had sex with enough different women to be satisfied. It was also helpful that having a family aligned well with my long-term life goal (being the patriarch).

Edit: Instead of downvoting, share your thoughts and add to the discussion.

Indubitably_Confused · 2018-02-16T10:24:34+00:00

Main reason is probably having a family, if no kids then at least a partner to share, etc. Personally, I do want a family with kids, but find it really strange that such values, at least face value, is considered "beta" traits when in fact it's the most alpha-esque thing there is.

What makes me want to commit is mostly for my partner's sake I guess, since marriage is pretty much a self-induced ball on ankle. I'm well-aware that I can still have kids and a relationship/partnership without marriage itself.

Rian_Stone · 2018-02-16T02:44:04+00:00

Boredom with nsa sex and search for permanence with novelty

Social status for career like politics

Wants kids, thinks marriage is a requisite

To give an expat status in said country

Divorced guy finally trusts you're not like his ex

Usually after a long and healthy stint of their 30s.

ReddJive · 2018-02-16T10:45:35+00:00

Disclaimer first.

I am married. Soon not to be. I am having an affair. If you want details you can go to /r/marriedredpill for more.

To say there’s nothing in marriage for men is a modern or rather new idea considering the last 20 years or so. There was once something in it for men. It is that which I wanted. I grew up around old world mentality. I am a second gen American my grandparents literally off the boat. I grew up in a “cultural” ghetto as it were. Nearly everyone was an immigrant.

That said marriages were solid. Men were men. Women were women. What’s in it for a man when all other BS is put aside is the adoration and dedication of a woman. I saw it with my grandparents. She unconditionally supported him. His most trusted confidante. In her eyes he could do no wrong and she backed him up every time. There was nothing he couldn’t do when he had that kind of support.

They went through difficult times and no matter what he kept going because he knew no matter how bad it got she was always there. He worked harder for it. It was yin yang in action. I never heard an unkind word from her. He always called her farfallina. I think it’s little butterfly in Italians.

For some this may seem to be a derivation of “be your mental point of origin” but it isn’t. That’s what the advantage would be for men. The stability that one person brings. The history created. Remember red pill men don’t like the way society is. We realize we can’t change it. So we adapt to it. Still get our needs met with the tools we have. It’s modern marriage we have issues with.

When does a man think marriage is right? I’d say it’s different for all men. But I suspect it’s when he feels he’s accomplished enough to start building.

BewareTheOldMan · 2018-02-16T13:22:13+00:00

What makes [a high-quality man] want to commit? What's in it for them?

I won't overdo it, but answer with a series of questions and a statement:

What is it about you/qualities you possess that would make a man's life SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER?

Career-woman or not, are you ready, willing, and fully committed to being an outstanding wife and exceptional mother?

Are you FULLY committed to engaging the associated duties and expectations of a wife married to a High Value, High Quality Man?

Are you irreplaceable (to him) versus any other woman by being able to benefit this man with your presence via marriage?

Also - virtually the last reason left to marry is to have children in a legitimate and legally recognized family, establishing a legacy and for the express purpose of rearing children in a loving, stable two-parent family.

If there is no plan to produce children, a couple can have the same situation as a married couple (sans children). Hence - no need to marry.

LateralThinker13 · 2018-02-16T14:31:47+00:00

I'm hard-wired to marry. Wife and I joke that our wires were crossed at birth; a lot of RPW appeals to me more, and a lot of male RP truths seem to apply to her. Probably helps that neither of us is neurotypical.

I wanted marriage since I was sixteen. Never found a woman I was willing to marry (and she was a mistake) until 30. I have always wanted kids, and it seemed idiotic to me to have kids without two parents. While married I got forcibly redpilled (she was a feminist!), and am on a healthy new marriage now.

What's in it for me? Kids with an actual sane, loving, supportive partner. My wife is young, has her head screwed on better than a whole generation of BP feminist-brainwashed NSA 20-somethings, and supports me being a Captain like you wouldn't believe. She washed my feet before bed (I didn't even know that was a thing). Helps that she's second-generation immigrant from India, so her family values are much better than average.

What's in it for me? Coming home to a peaceful, organized home that is warm and full of love. Being provided home-cooked meals of quality, or a backrub. Companionship with commitment to always be there for me when I need her, as I am for her. Eating alone regularly, an empty bed, no kids, that doesn't appeal. It does to some.

But I lucked out. After my first (disasterous) marriage, I would never have married again. Hell, I'd probably never have dated again, or at least not dated women. But I've known my second wife since she was a teenager (family friend) and unlike most women I knew her character and I could trust her. That isn't common.

If not for her... yeah, I'd be MGTOW now, in this climate, or started dating men exclusively (lucky to be bi, I guess). Much safer.

EDIT to speak to the general question, not just my situation:

Why would men IN GENERAL marry? Consistent companionship, kids. We can already get sex. If a guy doesn't want kids, and he has a good, active friends circle, it's going to be VERY hard in this climate to get him to marry. There's no incentive. Sex isn't an incentive for men to marry these days; however, lack of sex IS a reason for a man to lose interest in a woman. If you're looking to marry an RP male, provide what he can't get in this hookup culture: affection, admiration, and respect.

Give him those, and he'll wade through fire for you. But it'll be hard. A large swath of American culture actively encourages women to disrespect men.

pearlsandstilettos · 2018-02-16T00:21:01+00:00

I'm a solid 8. Marriage is off the table. There is nothing that could convince me to take that risk.

Edit: at a mod request, a high value man might marry because he wants children or he is so blue pilled that he thinks he can overcome evolutionary female behavior.

Look, a lot of alpha men are dumb when it comes to women, female nature. Successful men are often arrogant and thristy. They think divorce, etc. Won't happen to them. That is how high value men get trapped.

D_Hamm35 · 2018-02-22T07:45:58+00:00

Love.

HonestyOverCivility · 2018-02-16T01:31:51+00:00

Societal expectations: “you need to find yourself a good woman and settle down” “real mature men commit”
Core beliefs encouraging it, often religious
A desire to start a family
Being unaware of their potential to play the field, thereby settling for the first safe bet that comes along
Growing weary of playing the field. ie being a perpetual George Clooney loses its luster
He’s not high quality at all and is simply a beta male with some early game OR better yet a contextual alpha: men who appear alpha with their sphere of influence (usually men in positions of power)
Because he believes its “just what people do” when they become adults
He truly thinks he found a unicorn that is worth settling down for
Public image, appearing mature, etc...imagine trying to run for President as a single guy. No one would take you seriously
Family pressure, from either his or his GFs family

stillnoturday · Fri Feb 16 12:58:53 2018 UTC

Man.

High quality as in what?I'm 31, I have my own house, truck, don't have to work for the rest of my life(sold business), and always in shape/over 6 ft.

That being said honestly I haven't found a reason to marry and haven't had the knock down love that people keep saying happens. I've cared for a couple of women but nothing that makes me want to be locked in and if something goes wrong we have to go to court instead of just going our separate ways.

Take it from 50: "marriage is a bad contract"

Title	Why would a high-quality man marry?
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