Most of these debates are circular because they are predicted upon hostility bias.
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Bluepill and feminists are hostile to red pill and MRAs because they threaten their cause-fighting patriarchy, abolishing gender roles and representing women's rights
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Redpillers are hostile to blue pill and feminists because they feel threatened by it, it compromises their sexual strategy, and they are often disillusioned ex-MRAs/ex-feminists. Ditto MGTOWs
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MRAs are hostile to feminists, because they are totally disillusioned by the misandry of the 3rd wave (and sometimes redpillers for making it more difficult for feminists/BPers to sympathise with their complaints)
Without any sense of or attempts at empathy, most thread's complaints are falling upon deaf ears.
Let us see how much we are all working to unite the world.
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