What sort of strategies to get laid are immoral or unfair?

Maecenas13 · 2019-12-04T20:39:52+00:00

I think faking that you want a relationship is pretty low tier behavior. All things considered.

AggravatingTartlet · 2019-12-05T01:01:27+00:00

Stating you want a LTR when you just want to bang. Stating you want a committed relationship when you are seeing other people and not disclosing this. Dating a woman and having sex without disclosing you are married/partnered.

Also if the man did said strategy or strategies with the intention of getting a long term relationship instead of sex, would you still feel it to be immoral/unfair?

Yes.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2019-12-04T19:57:21+00:00

none, all is fair in love and war

Ofourkind · 2019-12-04T20:13:33+00:00

Anything that's immoral generally.

Pola_Lita · 2019-12-05T16:15:46+00:00

If a man believes sexual experience automatically diminishes a woman, that's significant. Not being open with that fact while attempting to seduce her is the equivalent of a lie. Really, his generally poor estimation of women would qualify too.

2nd question: if he intentionally misrepresents himself or hides beliefs he has primarily because he knows they'd make her want to get far away from him, of course that's immoral.

Undead_Chronic · 2019-12-04T22:20:53+00:00

I know guys that front as doctors to get easy pussy off tinder

Women may not like it but hey I dont like when women lie about birth control!

ontherailstoday · 2019-12-05T08:24:06+00:00

I think railroading someone into a situation where they will find it unsafe or damaging (physically or to their reputation) to refuse you something they really should be allowed to refuse you is unfair and immoral. The classic example for sex is taking someone out to a remote location then getting a bit pushy and threatening to evict them from the car to walk home in the cold in their high heels. But it is also a dynamic that exists for things other than sex and is unfair then too... deliberately getting pregnant and letting family members know about the pregnancy to force a planned marriage to be sped up is another example of it, so is asking for certain things in front of certain witnesses who will apply pressure such as making a marriage proposal very publicly at a large party.

I've already stated on other posts that I think pretending to be a real person who you are not in order to get sex or a relationship is horribly unfair, immoral and should be illegal. I mean I'm not just talking about pretending to be rich or pretending to be a doctor or pretending to be an ex-Morman virgin who has just left the church or pretending that you didn't have that tubal ligation. I'm talking about actual theft of another person's identity in order to get laid or get a relationship. You don't necessarily have to "be" you in any way if it is just casual sex, but you sure as fuck can't steal someone else's identity and still have me thinking you're just a bit of a scamp.

king_of_red_alphas · 2019-12-05T08:56:40+00:00

The Implication?

https://youtu.be/MZ1lc6KASWg

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brokegradstudent_93 · 2019-12-05T00:48:27+00:00

Lying and deception. I’m ltr focused and wouldn’t want to be with someone who lied to me to start a relationship

G77R23D · 2019-12-05T03:19:34+00:00

Game is amoral. You apply your own ethics to the process. If you use game to enter an LTR with the goal of marriage, you'll always have to apply that game to keep the relationship going.

slavicgypsygirl · 2019-12-08T18:42:48+00:00

Men can use whatever strategies they want on me but its always my choice whether or not they work

boomcheese44 · 2019-12-04T22:37:53+00:00

Any sort of lying or lying by omission. Dont care if its for just sex or to secure a relationship.

Dora_Bowl · 2019-12-04T20:02:51+00:00

There is some research that suggests people’s psychology is a lot closer to consequentialist(the consequences are what makes an action immoral) as opposed to deontological(the action being wrong). But I am a constructivist about ethical theories and I think these both say something true.

I would generally think lying to get a relationship is okay, as long as that relationship is not built on that lie completely. The ones you already listed like coercion, blackmail etc. are more on the line of what I think and would argue are immoral. Perhaps things like men pretending to care deeply about someone for sex I would consider immoral or lying about intentions etc.

DisastrousMeaning1 · 2019-12-04T20:10:56+00:00

None. Both sides use whatever advantages they can get. Always has been this way, always will.

v1cgt · 2019-12-04T21:01:11+00:00

What's the difference between rape and daterape?

Also what do you mean by coercion?

Title	What sort of strategies to get laid are immoral or unfair?
Author	Throughawayman80808
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Comments	86
Date	December 4, 2019 7:50 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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