Branch swing to low SMV Beta

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December 16, 2019

For those of you following my plight I have an update. You guys were right, there was definitely another man involved. I found out she's been sleeping with this dude for a few weeks but the emotionally attachment started months ago (before separation).

What has my head spinning is this. He's a married older, fat, slob of a beta who has no money. I'd put her at a 6 or 7 and he's a 1 or 2.

Apparently she likes him because he's extra nice, adores her, will put her kids first, will do anything she asks, and is fat so she doesn't have to feel insecure about being a little chubby.

How does a branch swing to a lower SMV beta even occur?

Needless to say I filed the divorce papers today.

One last question, do I tell his wife and blow up his life too?

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Title Branch swing to low SMV Beta
Author themerovingian01
Upvotes 12
Comments 100
Date 16 December 2019 03:23 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child) | Copy

Ok guys, happy early holidays - I'm going to lock this and save everyone's time here. I think we realize OP is a blind lazy cucked faggot.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (3 children) | Copy

Looking at your post history this woman moved out of your house almost 3 months ago. Yet you are still posting on reddit about her.

Dude wake up. This woman moving out is a blessing. Why would you want to dedicate so many resources to raising another mans children?

[–]themerovingian01[S] -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I know I'm better off for a lot of reasons.

[–]EasyDaysHardNights22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do.

- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[–]WesternhagenWinner6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

So... stop caring. Stop wondering "why did she do this or that?" Build your own frame and carry on with your mission.

[–]UltimateCrypto63 points64 points  (8 children) | Copy

You married a single mom with 2 kids. She already has an alpha. You were the low smv beta. She found a bigger beta.

No big deal. Move on. Avoid chicks with kids.

[–]arm_candy25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy

Needless to say I filed the divorce papers today.

You’ve been avoiding filing for months while everyone here told you repeatedly to just file and move on. Now you finally file because you find out she’s fucking someone else and it made you feel butthurt. You have no self respect and no balls.

She’s fucking him because he’s less of a loser than you.

[–]hack3geRed Beret16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP should take heed here - she literally thinks you are more of a loser than this dude - that is how much work you have to do.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando24 points25 points  (2 children) | Copy

What makes you think that the other dude has a higher SMV than you?

I mean, you rate a chubby, 37 year old woman with 2 kids as a 6 or 7, so clearly you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

[–]RPeed18 points19 points  (17 children) | Copy

What has my head spinning is this.

do I tell his wife and blow up his life too?

Plus the 6 other posts.

Who the fuck cares. She's gone. Move on.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (16 children) | Copy

Agreed. Doing that would only make OP more of a woman than he already is. Be a fucking man and let out your fury at the gym. Be grateful she just gave you an endless store of energy at your disposal. Use it to self destruct or use it to go build yourself and your frame. Become bulletproof and impenetrable. Don't waste your suffering and pain, you earned it.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red10 points11 points  (15 children) | Copy


OP could go Dark Triad here if he had the balls.

Her and AP likely never had plans to hitch up.

If he can emotionally disconnect from her and nuke her relationship with AP he could break her branch.

AP likely was never going to leave.

Revenge is....

[–]hack3geRed Beret14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy

100% dudes not gonna leave his wife - her branch will break and she will come crawling back and OP will be a giant faggot and keep raising some other dudes kids while his wife cheats.

Normally I don’t advocate for doing anything to get revenge but in this case at least it will blow up in his face and his whore of a wife won’t come crawling back to him. I agree purely to save himself from himself in the future.

[–]themerovingian01[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

I promise you guys I WILL NEVER TAKE HER BACK.

But I agree with you, men rarely leave their wives.

[–]hack3geRed Beret11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

I promise you guys I WILL NEVER TAKE HER BACK.

I can see it in the way you write about her, about the situation and your reaction to her actions.

You are precisely the type of faggot that would take her back...

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing better than a good old fashioned Eiffel Tower on a Monday morning.

[–]arm_candy6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

But do you pinky promise? Cross your heart?

Jesus Christ you must be the biggest valuation whore in the world. You just can’t stand the idea that someone has a poor opinion of you.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (9 children) | Copy

Tell me more red. How would you approach this if it were you.

What would breaking a branch accomplish? How does that help him on his journey to stop being a faggot?

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy

I am not nearly invested enough in either you or OP to go thru the effort to answer these questions.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (7 children) | Copy

Sounds like somone caught a case of the gays.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

I am back on Tren.

Let me know if you want me to come in your ass or mouth.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

I don't get why tren makes you gay. Why not just be gay? Seems easier

[–]ImNotSlash4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

The tren may be chilling it. Be careful what you ask for.

[–]themerovingian01[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What's the best place to get a T test without a doctors order? I've always wanted to know my levels.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Gay dudes are red pill. I bet that is where red is headed. Maybe even a new subreddit. GayRedpill

[–]helaughsinhidden14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

One last question, do I tell his wife and blow up his life too?

Move on, this is petty. What part of hurting his wife and kids moves you ahead in your mission? Absolutely none of it. Let this pain of being cheated on with a loser sink in and make you realize that you completely let yourself go. This isn't his fault, her fault, and definitely not his families fault. It was yours, just like the rest of us, the only direction out of your situation is to own up to what you did and to solely focus on what you can control. Unless you actually have your own children with this woman, losing her is an absolute win. Building a dope ass life with a single mom is like trying to cook a gourmet dinner from left overs. Food has a short window when they are best and it's important to work with fresh and uncooked ingredients. Granted, I can reheat a steak and have it turn out better than any microwave dinner, but if she is leaving you for an old, fat, broke, slob with a wife and kids, then she wasn't a prime cut. As soon as you file the papers, your stbx will blow up his family for her own selfish reasons anyway, so cut your losses.

[–]themerovingian01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you.

[–]red-iron-man11 points12 points  (11 children) | Copy

I’ve seen this happen with a few of my buddies, but it’s never a full branch swing. It’s usually the woman sick and tired of being ignored and unappreciated for many years, or the guy severely lacked a characteristic that was important to her. Just the power of another man’s attention is enough to make her go crazy if she hasn’t felt desired in years. Usually when found out these women will beg for forgiveness. On the other hand, if she branched swinged it means something in the other guy was more attractive than you, and she wrote you off for it a long time ago. It doesn’t have to be looks or how much better shape you are than him. It can simply be that he displayed higher confidence than you in one or more areas that was a real turn on for her.

Confidence in an area that you might have severely lacked in. It doesn’t have to be financial success. Something about the other guy made her feel a certain way that you didn’t. In the case of my buddy, he would fold and go into depression at any sign of adversity in life. She left him for the other guy who was a solid masculine man despite he the fact he was old, less rich, fatter and not as good looking.

This has happened to 3 guys I know.

[–]themerovingian01[S] -4 points-3 points  (10 children) | Copy

I doubt she'll beg for forgiveness but we'll see.

[–]red-iron-man7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy

No she would have done it the moment she was caught. Anything after that she doesn't give a shit about you.

[–]themerovingian01[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

She doesn't know I know yet.

[–]arm_candy8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

She’s not going to beg for forgiveness. She literally moved out already. She doesn’t care about you and hasn’t for a long time. The only way she comes back to you is if this current thing blows up.

Although if she does beg for forgiveness, I’m sure you’ll post here immediately after. “STBXW came over and put her mouth on my peepee. She cried and apologized and promised to fuck me more. Should I take her back? I’m thinking I should delay the divorce proceedings and see if she’s really changed.”

[–]red-iron-man4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I predict that arm_candy's prediction will come true. OP's future post will be titled:

"MY STBXW wants me back but she gained 30 lbs since I last saw her. What should I do?"

[–]themerovingian01[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I will not take her back. I set a boundary that if she ever slept with someone we'd be done.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did you set that boundary before or after she fucked the other dude?

[–]red-iron-man3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The fact that she left period means she doesn't give a shit. This is whether you found/find out or not.

[–]part_wolf5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

You’re still holding out hope for her.

[–]themerovingian01[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The hope is gone.

[–]part_wolf3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then get to work.

[–]mrpthrowa9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

Stop posting please, and get busy.

[–]part_wolf3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

He deserves a four week ban that limits him to OYS only.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your wish is granted.

[–]macheagle6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy

She found what she considers to be a “better provider”, not a better man. Depending on her SMV she may continue to monkey double backflip off of Chads.

I wouldn’t recommend giving any grief to the simp. It’s not worth your effort. You’re still currently emotionally attached so you may be keen on doing things out of spite. At the end of the day the best course forward is focusing on yourself.

[–]RoccoPinkman6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

news flash, she didn’t leave you for someone with a lower SMV

Why are you still banging on about this? Are you not bored yet? I know I am.

She left you for a faggot, who’s more alpha than you, swallow it and move on.

Stop making pointless posts about your fat ex.

[–]razenha5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Seeing the progress of your post is depressing.

[–]Frosteecat6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

He’s doing you a favor so why ruin it?!?

[–]FoxShitNasty833 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

He has no kids with her, silver lining and all that.

Go my pretty.... bang strange... Bang until your dick is sore... Bang the anger into a fatties arsehole. They are waiting!

[–]Frosteecat1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol so true. Given time he’s going to see his upset is based on rejection, not true affection for this clownshow of an ex.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

OP, you're the faggot of the biggest kind who refuses to do any kind of work for 7 months. What are your lifts? You've had this knowledge for over HALF A FUCKING YEAR and done nothing with it.

You guys here can keep piling on and commenting, but at some point you should question how much your time is worth to faggot OP.

[–]themerovingian01[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I do lift and have been for several years 2-3 times a week. I've read the sidebar and 20+ books now. I felt like I was making progress in the relationship but it was too little, too late.

I have my life and mission in order and in a few months I'll no longer have a divorce weighing me down. Filing the papers today was a huge relief and a new beginning. I was holding on to hope and fear.

In the interim I'm continuing to lift, read, and hook up with other girls. I know I'm leaving nothing of value behind and my life is already getting better. I have more time, resources, and energy to do what I want to do.

[–]arm_candy5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

The fuck you lift. You’ve been lifting “for several years” but you’re still at novice level. Your weight and body fat are unchanged in the past 7 months.

SBIII and HornsOfApathy are right. You’re wasting everyone’s time here.

[–]aita28993 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

You have no kids with this woman, and some dude is banging away at her plus she moved out.

Take the damn advice that’s been given to you and get the fuck out of the relationship and get the divorce done before the dopamine of this new dude wears off.

Stop the petty revenge shit. If it all crashes and she’s pissed at you, it’ll make everything 1000x worse for you.

I finally stfu and took the advice here.I avoided being divorce raped and three kids are involved in all of it.

Move the fuck on it sucks. Oneitis fucking sucks, but once you fucking realize you can fuck tons of women and start spitting game confidently it goes away quick.

[–]themerovingian01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Best post yet. Thank you.

[–]HeckleandChide5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like she found a better man.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy

She found a bigger beta. No loss for you.

What kind of evidence do you have? I am in the blow up his marriage as well. Odds are neither were looking to get caught.

If you can emotionally detach the fall out could be fun to watch.

Nothing wrong with women whom have kids if you are not a pussy.

I have my baggage and 20 year olds are fucking dumb.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

I would hang onto that information until you need it /u/themerovingian01. If you don't need it, leave it alone as it doesn't help your mission. If getting a better divorce deal helps with your mission, then tell your lawyer and see if its helpful but don't use it for vindictive reasons.

Red just wants to watch the world burn. Maybe not the best advice here. Play nice and manipulate the situation. True strength doesn't need to see others suffer even if they hurt you. Meekness is power constrained and controlled. When I wrestle with my kids, I could easy destroy them as they are tiny but I display meekness when my power is in control.

Law 36: Disdain things you cannot have, Ignoring them is the best revenge. By acknowledging a petty problem you give it existence and credibility. The more attention you pay an enemy, the stronger you make him; and a small mistake is often made worse and more visible when you try to fix it.

  1. You choose to let things bother you.
    · You choose not to notice the irritating offender.
  2. The most powerful move is to consider the matter trivial and unworthy of your interest.
    · What you do not react to cannot drag you down in a futile engagement.
  3. Your pride is not involved.
    · The best lesson you can teach an irritating gnat is to consign it to oblivion by ignoring it.
  4. If it is impossible to ignore then conspire in secret to do away with it.
    · Never inadvertently draw attention to the bothersome insect that will go away on its own.

[–]themerovingian01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is very wise and good information.

[–]themerovingian01[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Text messages still syncing to an old device left behind.

It could be fun to watch but here are some thoughts.

Due to the nature of their jobs and ethics if his wife goes crazy and gets the workplace involved my wife and this dude would probably get fired. Her being unemployed would be bad for my divorce proceeding.

I may be able to use this information to get a better divorce deal, if it comes to that.

[–]arm_candy7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should keep your mouth shut and move the divorce along as rapidly as possible. Right now you have her feeling lovey dovey for some other schmuck and likely willing to part more amicably. Use that to separate as quickly and smoothly as possible.

Don’t mention this to her or her new guy or his wife. You will gain nothing from it unless you’re in a state that actually penalizes adultery. And even then it’s probably not going to net you enough to justify the combative divorce.

[–]weakandsensitive3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

You are a real faggot.

Go live your own life and fuck 10 other women.

[–]hack3geRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Issue is OP is too much of a faggot to do this - if he could he wouldn’t give two shits and would be posting about how tight 20 something pussy is compared to his used up cheating ex wife.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So you wife was fucking a co-worker.

Yeah, neither wanted to get caught.

[–]part_wolf1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

He’s only considering blowing up the affair because of his oneitis, not for the entertainment value.

[–]redwall922 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Most of your comments are about what she thinks or what she wants or what she is doing. What do you think got you here in the first place, man? Stop giving so many fucks about what anybody else thinks. You do you.

[–]FoxShitNasty830 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He doesn't realise he is stuck in her frame. Rebuild it.... Bigger, leaner, strongerrrr

[–]Rifleshoot1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

Let's say for the sake of an exercise that you are correct and he is truly the beta and you look like the RP Chad you've always dreamed of being. Guess what? She could still branch swing and be happy doing it. You can look fantastic, but if you are boring, she might be happy being with a guy that actually has an exciting life. You live your life lifting and eating right, then spend the rest of your time watching television while this guy gets invited to every party and event, and maybe she wanted to be a part of that. That's called having a mission. The other guy knows what he wants out of life. Do you?

[–]themerovingian01[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

She actually complained that I was too social and wanted to do too many things. This other guy is a stick in the mud homebody. Maybe she just wants the opposite?

[–]FoxShitNasty832 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

she just wants

Stop caring!!!! Stop trying to analyse it. It's done. Fucking done! Your done, the future is waiting.

[–]Rifleshoot0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

So you think you are perfect in every way, huh? Have you even met this guy? If you were really as great as you are trying so hard to portray yourself to be, this post wouldn't exist. You would have already been with women much younger and much hotter than your soon to be ex wife and wouldn't have given this a second thought. Instead, you are talking to internet strangers about why your wife left you. The first step is figuring out who you are. Figure out your strengths and weaknesses. Hint: focus on the weaknesses. Your post and all of your comments are directed at the other guy and figuring out what he might have that you don't. You need to figure out what you don't have that you need. What is your mission and how did your wife fit into that mission?

[–]themerovingian01[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

No, definitely not. Apparently I wasn't nice enough, didn't validate her feelings, and I didn't want to be last priority. I also think starting out as a faggot and acting that way for 8 years and then suddenly trying to right the ship was a big factor.

My biggest mistake was picking the wrong woman and not seeing the red flags. Single mother, BPD, daddy issues, serial cheater, not trustworthy, relationship issues, financial problems, insecure, short fuse, violent/abusing, vindictive, etc. Only a couple months into the relationship she hacked my facebook, found some sex messages before i met her, and attacked me and smashed shit.

Instead of seeing the red flags all I saw was a hottie with a pussy. I thought I couldn't do better. I doubled-down on the great sex and wifed her up.

[–]arm_candy5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus fucking Christ. Shut up about your shitty wife. Rifleshoot didn’t tell you to dump a wall of text about why she sucks or why you were with her.

He asked what your mission is. He asked what you don’t have that you need.

... Oh, I get it. The answer to both his questions is “her”.

[–]HornsOfApathyMod / Red Beret4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

My biggest mistake was picking the wrong woman and not seeing the red flags. Single mother, BPD, daddy issues, serial cheater, not trustworthy, relationship issues, financial problems, insecure, short fuse, violent/abusing, vindictive, etc. Only a couple months into the relationship she hacked my facebook, found some sex messages before i met her, and attacked me and smashed shit.

Have you taken into consideration that perhaps, just perhaps, all of these issues are because you are a faggot?

I think we've had enough of your shit here.

[–]themerovingian01[S] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes I was being a faggot trying to save a hoe.

[–]arm_candy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don’t fucking get it. You are still the problem. Your ego is now blaming “old themerovingian01” but you haven’t changed. You’re exactly the same loser that you were when you signed up months ago. The fact that you don’t get this is why everyone is treating you like shit. You are in 100% ego protection mode.

You aren’t owning shit. You aren’t improving. You aren’t even trying. You’re coming here every month or so to tell everyone about the horrible thing your wife did and how life has happened to you. You are an utterly passive participant who has shown no agency. It has taken you months to just file for divorce and even then it only happened because you stumbled across evidence of your wife sleeping with someone after she left you.

[–]part_wolf0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What do you stand to gain from telling his wife about the affair? Blowing up this guy’s life is not going to help you get over your oneitis or the fact that you’re incredibly weak and lack initiative.

You’re spending far too much time in the realm of fantasy. The reality is that you’re still emotionally dependent on and legally married to this woman who doesn’t want you. I realize that hurts.

My guess is that your oneitis runs so deep that you’re secretly hoping that you can still win your wife back if you blow up the affair. Even if that’s possible, you’ll never have the type of relationship you want with your soon to be ex. Moreover, if you don’t process your feelings about your marriage and build your frame you won’t have the type of relationship you want with anyone else at all.

[–]themerovingian01[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The hope and fear is gone. I'm letting go and moving on. There's no turning back.

I did have oneitis for a long time but then I realized something. It's not about her. It was more a fear of being alone and not finding someone better...the same fear that got me into the relationship. I know I can, and I know I won't be alone. I know I can find someone hotter, younger, and nicer with similar interests. I already started attracting some.

[–]part_wolf2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t give a fuck about what you’re typing. Your actions tell another story.

If this were true, you wouldn’t be spending your time posting any of this bullshit. You never took our advice for months when we told you to file the paperwork. Stop wasting everyone’s time, including your own.

The only thing I want to read from you is an OYS post every week.

[–]jenovajunkie0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dude was sleeping with your girl and you have to question whether or not to tell his wife?

Just because you lost the war, doesn't mean you can't cause them some damage.

You're just going to let this fat fuck muck up your life, and get away with it scot free just because of some ideal like this bitch was alpha and you were a low branch beta?

Fuck that shit, cause some metaphorical explosions. I wouldn't make this a priority (seems like there might be more to this), but I wouldn't be walked on either.

[–]arm_candy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just because you lost the war...

You're just going to let this fat fuck muck up your life...

You’re a retard. He’s not at war with the fat fuck banging his wife. OP is at war with his own loser behavior.

The fact that you think the guy banging OP’s wife is the problem indicates that you’re a loser, too. This is victim mentality bullshit.

[–]learning0007-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Might be your obsessed, and stuck. Maybe it's time to seek counseling

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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