Yesterday /u/aptway made a post titled:

If a woman lives in or has lived in Party World, she's already an Alpha Widow

In that discussion someone asked for traits or signs that a girl was/had been a party girl. I wrote up a consumable list & thought it might be worth trying to whore karma taking the time to make sure you guys are aware of these destructive personality traits.

So, this thread is an invitation to list other red flags you've seen from women, party girl or not.

Keep in mind that none of these is a single problem on its own, albeit perhaps a cause for concern.


  • As her boyfriend, you find that you're making a majority of the effort.

  • She \"doesn't kiss\" on the first date.

  • You have to pay for everything.

  • The way she dresses begs the eyes of men around her. Moreover if she goes out, (with or without you) she will ALWAYS make a significant effort. Pity she doesn't do that on \"date night...\"

  • She still talks to her exes and they're \"just friends\".

  • She doesn't see anything wrong with plentiful male attention.

  • She's glued to her phone.

  • She has difficulty making time for you. (Will only schedule \"appointments\" to talk over the phone)

  • Incapable of having a normal conversation.

  • She has very little value outside of her looks. (No sense of humour, vapid, no hobbies, no opinions worth discussing, dead end job...Having no value outside of looks is TRP definition of a slut.)

  • She believes in \"true love\" and the concept of \"the one\".

  • She expects you to always be entertaining her & leading the conversation.

  • Has (self confessed) poor physical boundaries, is self confessed crazy, is very sexually open about herself or \"sex positive\".

  • Is incapable of taking responsibility for her mistakes (blames the alcohol, claims her drink was spiked or someone made her do it.)

  • She is very histrionic in nature and or loves to gossip. (Gossip is the lowest form of entertainment)

  • Has beta orbiters that think they have a shot. (A woman will have an orbiter for all her needs. One to fuck, one to guy her stuff, one to listen to her problems...)

  • She is very flirty with you but if you try to escalate because of this IOI, she pulls away.


Further Credit for the following points from /u/RedPope, slightly abridged for brevity.

Some additional signs of a party girl:

  • She can tell you about any club/rave drug, often with OMG-so-crazy story.

  • Believes money isn't important, it just appears when you need it.

  • Endless stories of vacations overseas and has travelled more than most people 3x her age.

  • Every job she's ever had was glamorous, impractical, and short-lived.

  • Endless and vague list of former boyfriends, some more than double her age.

  • Cut ties with her parents due to some vague, undefined reason.

  • Very few, if any, multi-year relationships, yet somehow more than one ex cheated on her.

  • Knows \"every club in town\". Can recommend the best hotels.

  • Her condo or apartment looks like a magazine photo shoot, fully furnished and decorated with art and accessories more sophisticated than her age.

  • She always has a well-equipped overnight bag, completely stocked with all beauty and hygiene items she might possibly need.

If your girl matches one-third the items on our lists: do not get attached. If you recognize her true \"party girl\" identity early enough, have your fun, but don't bring her into your social circle.


Again, none of these is a single problem on its own, albeit perhaps a cause for concern.

Everyone has their own behaviours and ways of doing things and they should be taken in context. When you start to see clusters of the above listed, be aware that she sees you differently to how you view your role in the relationship.

^edit ^to ^make ^sure ^the ^\"single ^problem\" ^disclaimer ^point ^was ^illustrated ^properly.