Women don't want to be attracted to guys who they previously thought were unattractive to the point where they'd want to sabotage them if they seek advice that works. They just want men to get it naturally, to BE it and to not need to seek external aid. They want men who are HV to begin with. Below is an example of your average back and forth advice.


How do I attract someone?

Just be yourself.

But being myself doesn't work right now. I AM myself and it is obviously failing. I should change that.

Okay, so what do you want to do?

Well, I've seen a lot of success at TRP. I don't like it right now but it seems to be working for those guys.

Ugh, no. TRP is for creeps. You should be better than that. Obviously no girl would fall for such things. A real woman will never fall for that.

Okay, maybe TRP is a bit extreme. What about Jordan Peterson? I've been told he gives good advice.

Jordan Peterson is trash, you shouldn't listen to him.

Then who should I listen to?

I don't know. Your parents? My parents were the same as yours and I got a boyfriend.

Men and women are different.

That is irrelevant and sexist.

No.. it's.. ugh..... whatever. Anyway, my parents didn't raise me right, I want to change that. How do I change that and who should I talk to?

I don't know. I'm not your mom. It should come natural to you..?

Maybe it will come natural if I approach. I should get experience by approaching women! I'm gonna approach women often and try to strike up a conversation.

Don't do that. Women just want to be left alone and not be bothered. Approaching women and flirting with them makes them anxious.

But how am I supposed to get experience if I never approach?

You should try online dating where they can decide in comfort & swipes.

Online dating doesn't work for me. I'm not good enough physically for first impression based swipes. Maybe I should lift and get muscles. I've seen a lot of women drooling over guys that look really good.

Women aren't sexual like guys are. They are perfectly fine with dad bods and unattractive bodies. Muscles are scary.

But what if I get really sexy and start taking shirtless photos? I've literally seen men getting success from that.

Shirtless photos is what douchebags do. You shouldn't do that. You're fine the way you are now.

But I am not fine, things aren't working. What is not good about me?

Get a better haircut. Women like good hair.

I'm literally balding. I can't make my hair in the way that women like.

It is probably your personality.

What is wrong about my personality? I'm nice.

You aren't entitled to sex for being nice.

I'm funny. What if I make them laugh?

You aren't entitled to sex for making someone laugh.

So then what should I do to be attractive to women?

I don't know. Every woman is different.

Hm, maybe I should work on getting into a high paying job. I heard STEM is very valuable. I should work at pursuing that if everything else is bad.

lol ew STEM guys are such nerds, I would never be attracted to them and I know most of my lady friends would never be.

You're right. I should pursue something like a police officer. Women like those and it is high alpha.

No. Cops are pigs.

Then which career should I pursue?

Whichever career you want to pursue. I'm not your mom.

But you just said that most women dislike those careers.

Wow, you're so obsessed about all of this. You care so much what other people think. I think you need to learn how to love yourself first.

How can I love myself? I'm depressed and anxious.

Then you need to fix that.

I am trying. That is why I am looking for someone to date.

Finding a partner will not change that; it will just make things worse.

I'm depressed and anxious BECAUSE I'm alone and I need a partner.

Okay, look, you're complaining so much here and no woman will find that attractive. You should, idk, seek help. I gotta go. Bye.