LTR hooked up with a much better looking Chad right before me. Doomed?

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LTR of six months. I'm 30, she's 26. I'm 6'5, 240. Max bench 285.

She has been great - submissive, never tells me no, cooks, cleans, sex every day, the whole 9.

I found out she hooked up a few times with a former professional soccer player right before me. Him and I have a mutual friend and he's significantly better looking than me. I saw old text messages where she was telling her friends "OMG HE'S SO GORGEOUS".

I own two businesses, have higher social status, and make more money than him (he works some min. wage job now).

Although she has never mentioned him, I'm worried she's an alpha widow.

Obviously it's just my turn, but should I jump ship sooner than later?

I feel like she's always going to be comparing me to him.

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Title LTR hooked up with a much better looking Chad right before me. Doomed?
Author trp1223
Upvotes 80
Comments 167
Date 08 January 2020 02:36 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]AnneStaz67 points68 points  (9 children) | Copy

hahaha i like how you mentioned your bench max

[–]SniXSniPe16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm really glad I'm not the only one that saw that and couldn't believe he put that there. LOL

[–]TreatYouLikeAQuean7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

On married red pill they do that.

Idk if this is just me but at the 3 gyms I've been to over the years bench press did not correlate at all to aesthetic chest.

[–]RevolutionaryPea7-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Aesthetics is 90% genetic.

[–]Gaidsbola2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah no. Aesthetics is 70% diet and 30% putting work in at the gym.

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[–]Blackhawk247927 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s fine; just means you’ll get better responses than “You lift, bro?” sooner.

[–]24_7_AMOGGER11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

You forgot to mention your bodyfat percentage

[–]Ruueee-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Life isn't an rpg dude, nobody cares about your stats lol

[–]Jovan10000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]amwfhunter107 points108 points  (23 children) | Copy

Fuck her and chuck her if you're so worried. Dude it doesnt really matter who she has been with, she is with you now. It is just your turn. Given your status she might be trying to settle up so I'd make sure you prenup that with the knowledge that matrimonial homes aren't covered. Rent a nice house and use a corporation or holding company to buy property as investments if u must. And have her sign off on the corporations.

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[–]amwfhunter17 points18 points  (6 children) | Copy

Totally understand where you are coming from. Women are a funny breed. Perhaps she will settle down but your insecurities are killing you. And yes women are hypergamous so the best way is since you cannot predict the future, all you can do is buy insurance. (What I suggested above). Or u can buy a relatively cheaper home that you dont mind risking 50% of its value to offset her fears. Depending on what you're willing to lose or assess if she is willing to help pay the mortgage while you supply the downpayment etc. Because my suggestion of renting a principal residence and then buying properties under a corporation she signed off on may piss her off enough to go. But then you also have your answer.

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[–]amwfhunter13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Smart. That is exactly what I used too. My partners need it. Explain to her it is insurance. Most people who buy insurance do not want to get into a car. accident. Careful she isnt seeing u as beta bucks. Fine line between alpha and beta esp when married. You sound like you have a lot going for you think twice because every year there is a new crop of 18 year olds ready to replace. Ever consider having surrogates to have kids with? Look at Cristiano Ronaldo. Dude paid women to have kids with so he is free from all that shit and still has a woman with him who isnt even the mother of his children. Should there be custody battles ronaldo would win.

[–]toughenup20160 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Prenup with certified marriage contract in a non-common law state!

[–]thechaosz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Prenups are not enforced in the USA.

They always go back to the "lifestyle she was accustomed too". I've been through it, seen it, know divorce attorneys.

A piece of paper in a courthouse will not keep her faithful, or make her love you.

[–]thechaosz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Already seemed upset?

Record vids and take pics, because this is going to be a hot fling, but burn out into a pile of flames.

For every hot single woman in the world, there is a guy that is sick of her shit

[–]thechaosz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nothing to be insecure about if you don't invest anything into them emotionally and financially.

It's like people with those rat dogs (I have actual dogs). They run out the front door, despite years of love, affection, money, feeding and clothing them.

Ok bye

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[–]mgtowalternate12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

OPs a beta bucks in denial. Biggest takeaway from this thread

[–]Turkerthelurker7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

He doesn't seem to be in denial about it. However, there is an ongoing trend of guys trying to super beta-bucks their way into success - or at least that's a lot of the advice being given.

OP: You are 30, tall, successful, and own a house. You are one puppy away from having "MARRY ME" stamped on your forehead. It's not a bad thing, especially since you said you're looking to settle down soon - a good call considering you want a family. Just recognize that women will recognize this too, and behave as though they are applying for the position of Real Housewives of Wherever the fuck.

[–]thechaosz3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's a widow and he's talking about pre nups.

You should never, ever get married ever. Married TRP is a fail.

[–]ClockLad0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Wait so how does OP win this scenario.

If he ices her - he loses because he looks like an insecure pussy who couldn’t get over the fact she fucked a better looking guy.

If he stays with her - he also loses because he becomes beta bucks monopoly man to fund her credit cards and lust over the sexy mailman who brings her Amazon packages.

What do you suggest OP does in this scenario to win (not being sarcastic). Is there no way to win this one?

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[–]ClockLad0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Can’t argue with that logic

[–]PhaedrusHunt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Or if he marries her he prenups the shit out of her. Or this.

[–]Nofapislit1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

if your feeling like that do not marry her, your intuiton is probably right. Just enjoy the sex and start looking for others. Sometimes it's better to marry an hb8 then an hb9 if you are her true alpha.

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[–]FatGirlsInPartyHats4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You do seem pretty insecure. Make sure you don't commit to someone until you're confident in yourself enough which right now you are not.

[–]thrwy754790 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I just don't want to move forward with her and then she turns out to be some hyper-hypergamous whore because she was alpha widowed.

You're afraid that she'll leave you. What reasons could she have to do that?

[–]Ohboohoolittlegirl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Time? Really? Plating is literally the least time intensive way of dealing with women.

[–]TheRedPillRipper3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is just your

HER turn. He may have been a pro athlete but always remember; ** you’re The Captain.**

Godspeed and good luck!

[–]theUnBannableHulk319 points320 points  (38 children) | Copy

6’5” and worried about a minimum wage phaggot.

Boy ... grow up before I fetch a ladder to reach up and slap you upside the head

Also you are a catch and should not be settling down with a 26 year old slooty, go get yourself some model looking bish from the village who’s a religious virgin so she doesn’t cuck your ass and take half your shit like the slootie pie 🥧 she is

[–]Chillrend119140 points41 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yoooo This is it right here!

[–]z2a1-92 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

fucking awesome, this

[–]EmptySpace11110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes it be like dis

[–]CainPrice35 points36 points  (17 children) | Copy

That's just the past hookup you know about. If she's a girl who does hookups, by age 26, she's been with a dozen or two guys.

But this doesn't matter. Because you're not going to get married anyway.

Fuck her for as long as things last, move on when either you or she is done with things.

She is not yours, it is your turn. All relationships are temporary. So treat the relationship like it's temporary. Fuck her while she makes it easy, drop her when she makes it difficult, always be on the lookout for other women and if you find one you like better either cheat or trade this one for the better woman. If she happens to do that to you first, shrug and go find another girl.

You're not going to marry her, and the relationship is temporary. All relationships are. So treat it as such. Quit acting like there's such a thing as this magical permanent relationship with the perfect girl that never ends. Just enjoy the sex, don't get married.

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[–]Zanford11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

FWIW, she has a “confirmed” n-count of ten.

So maybe 30 if we're gonna go with American Pie's rule of 3. But that movie's from the practically quaint and conservative late 90's so adjusting for inflation it's probably Rule of 5 or 6 by now.

[–]z2a1-91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

so adjusting for inflation it's probably Rule of 5 or 6 by now.

true that

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

American Pie's rule of 3 has to do with the number girls tell guys and the number guys tell girls. Girls are usually honestly with their good friends on stuff like that.

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Girls lie to each other, but I'll certainly agree that if she said it to a friend it's gonna be much closer to accurate than if she'd said it to you

[–]RP_COGuy13 points14 points  (11 children) | Copy

by age 26, she's been with a dozen hundred or two guys.


[–]CainPrice21 points22 points  (8 children) | Copy

Most casual girls are not going home with a different guy every weekend. That is extremely promiscuous, even for a slutty girl.

Most women don't have sex with multiple guys in the same time period. They practice serial monogamy and go from one guy to the next, whether a guy is a one-night thing, a consistent casual partner, or an actual dating/relationship guy. They have boyfriends (often short-term), hookups between boyfriends that sometimes turn into an extended causal thing, and sometimes keep having sex with their ex boyfriends after they break up (or go back to having sex with former casual partners after a relationship ends).

A really slutty 26 year old probably has a body count of 20-40. not in the hundreds.

This idea that any significant number of women are hooking up with a different guy every weekend for a period of years and racking up body counts in the hundreds is silly. That's a very minor fringe of crazy women.

[–]The-Knowing3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're probably both off a bit from the truth. Girls are more slutty than you think these days, but not generally as slutty as 100 n count at mid twenties slutty. 20-40 hookups for a girl who has generally been single for most of her adulthood is pretty low, especially if her SMV is high

If you're a slutty 26 year old you're probably looking at an absolute minimum 40-50 n count. Do the math, it's 5 hookups per fucking year. If you're a slutty girl, you easily go through that in a month if you want to. If you're a single HB6+ these days, then you're essentially an angel if you hookup with 5 new people a year. It's sad but it's true.

But you're not wrong on the other stuff. Most women are serial monogamists (or at least close to). Most aren't actively looking to hop on as much dick as possible, but are sniping for high value men, usually one or a small handful at a time. And most women at mid twenties have been in a handful of committed relationships, so their N counts usually aren't triple digits. There are hyper sluts though and it's never been easier to be a triple digit mega slut in your twenties than today.

At the end of the day you never know for sure, so who cares. Most women are sluts by our standards these days, but at least most of them aren't "new dick every week" sluts. At least not for years on end.

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[–]SalporinRP2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not remotely the average girl. The average girl will have relationships (short or long) with hookups sprinkled in between.

Normal girls aren't fucking 3 guys a week lol

[–]xoxuv0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Most casual girls are not going home with a different guy every weekend. That is extremely promiscuous, even for a slutty girl.

By the way, my best female friend had one hookup every Friday, (and I didn't knew what she did the rest of the week).

She was a beautiful 19 Venezuelan blonde. I made her my wingman, (or wingirl). I learnt a ton of stuff from her, and she checked every RP box. Had alpha fucks, beta bucks, milked dudes for gifts, money, transport, connections and attention.

She "wasn't lesbian", to my knowledge, but she knew exactly how to pick up any girl cockblocking me.

[–]PhaedrusHunt0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Come hang out in Austin for a weekend and I'll prove you wrong

[–]CainPrice2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm in Austin for work every so often, though not often on the weekends. It's a bizarre city for hooking up. You get the college crowd on 6th, the young professionals on Rainey, divorced suburban moms at concerts, and just about every girl you meet from Tinder or any other online dating platform is going to live up in the Domain/Arboretum area where apparently 90% of the apartments in the city are. Your traffic is a bitch, by the way.

I've done two Austin girls, one I met on Rainey street, and another I met online and we hit up bars at the Domain.

It's a great city for meeting people, but the idea that any significant number of women are racking up body counts in the hundreds, going home with bunches of different guys in short spans of time still seems pretty silly. The women there don't seem any stranger than anywhere else or any more promiscuous.

[–]PhaedrusHunt1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

just about every girl you meet from Tinder or any other online dating platform is going to live up in the Domain/Arboretum area where apparently 90% of the apartments in the city are. Your traffic is a bitch, by the way.

It's funny because the domain is where people that are definitely from out of town live. people that are from Austin or Texas live in other parts of town for some reason. It's funny I've been here a very long time I have such a different mental map in my head and when I think of the domain I think of it as like 5% of the city lol. Trust me there are tons of apartments in other places, It's just up there they're all clumped together. And yes traffic sucks.

I hooked up with one girl that by all outward appearances is just a normal chick. Her body count was over 100.

Another girl that I'm friends with (same social circles) that is actually really hot-- a 9 But she's on the decline-- is over 100 as well.

And I know tons more women that are in the 30s 40s 50s. Of course I'm a little older than you and I don't really like to mess with chicks in their twenties at this point. I've definitely made the rounds myself so I'm not so worried about a woman's n count, especially in this whacked-out culture.

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[–]Brodin6926 points27 points  (5 children) | Copy

That's some weak sauce bench numbers. No wonder why she fucked that dude.

[–]11-Eleven-116 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

Don't say that. I'm only at 215 :(

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah well I'm assuming you're not 6'5 and 240lbs like OP.

[–]11-Eleven-111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're right. I'm 5'9, 160 lbs.

[–]SmileBot-2020-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I saw a :( so heres an :) hope your day is good

[–]DanelRahmani-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

I saw a :( so heres an :) hope your day is good

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

On paper, you win, but the fact that youre here asking about this means that in the long run you are gonna lose. YOU ARE COMPARING, not her, YOU ARE!!!

Comparison is the thief of joy, and youre creating your own downfall.

edit: on top of that you're worried about a fucking whore XD XD God damn dude just enjoy it while it lasts. Jesus posts like these make me so much happier about my own damn life.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Imagine being worried about a pretty boy and introducing yourself as "I'm 6'5, 240. Max bench 285."

Women do not think like men. Yes, they find some guys "gorgeous". But just head over to emrata's instagram and look at one of her photos with her boyfriend. Check the comments and look at all those betas laughing with him because he's "ugly".

If you're gonna be insecure about the past guys she fucked, then yes, she'll leave you/fuck other guys/ you won't be good enough. You have to believe in your own self-worth as an individual. Not how tall you are, how much you weigh, how much you make, your fucking max bench.

[–]Hungboy696942013 points14 points  (9 children) | Copy

Who cares , women are temporary

[–]Nofapislit6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy

some people will never realize this, no matter how many times we say wrap it up and forget about marriage.

[–]Hungboy69694202 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pretty much. You got to fuck her a few times, that's a win in my book. Most dudes will never even come close to that

[–]CainPrice2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

99% of the guys around here will say the realize that women are temporary, but none of them actually treat women like they're temporary. Deep down inside, they're holding on to hope that if they vet for just the right set of characteristics and exhibit just the right set of behaviors and just the right other circumstances line up, this will be a relationship that lasts forever.

You never actually see guys who say they know that women are temporary treating women badly, looking for other women while still in a relationship, cheating, trading out their girlfriend for someone they met that they like better, and being the ones who dump their girls the second they get difficult or screw up.

It's always guys who said they understand women are temporary getting dumped, then running to post about how it's okay because deep down they always knew it was temporary. Fuck that. If the guy knew it was temporary, he'd have actually been treating her like she's temporary. He'd have been the one meeting other people when he's out and deciding to move on, not her.

[–]zer1651 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That first sentence is so fuckin true. Practically, no one here is really ready to the take the action they need to. As soon as they get even moderate success with women they backslide. This shit really isn't for 90% of the folks that are here. They get it...kind of, but they don't really get it

[–]Nofapislit0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

i just plan on dating around till i'm 45 and then marrying a 25 year old. So yes, i understand what your saying. But still i logically think your missing some redpill aspects. Awalt and budget for a divorce. Also calculate smv. All side bar stuff.

[–]Hungboy6969420-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Having a girlfriend sort of negates the idea of knowing they're temporary. Men who know the fickle nature of women arent going to have an LTR imo unless they're spinning plates on the side too

[–]CainPrice0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That depends. Sometimes, having a girlfriend is the best sexual strategy for a guy.

Let's say you're a 6/10 guy who does okay, can get dates and maybe the occasional hookup, but most of the time, women are resistant to having casual sex with you. That's the majority of guys. Women might go home with you after a date, the second date, maybe the third date, but it's hard to get women to agree to an understood casual encounter. You have to keep things vague and kind of make it feel like you're "dating" and string her along ("not looking for anything serious/life's too crazy right now") until she gives you the "relationship or I'm done" ultimatum, at which point you normally drop her and move on.

If you're a mid-range guy, like a 4-6/10 guy, boyfriend game isn't a bad game for you. Just tell them you're serious about them, tell them you're their boyfriend, but keep on meeting other women.

If you're an average-ish looking guy, having a girlfriend is a lot more sex, a lot more reliably, versus trying to pick up girls at bars and online. It's okay to have one. Just remember to treat the relationship like it's temporary. Be the one who walks away. Drop her when she gets difficult. Look for other girls while you're still with her and get rid of her if you find someone better. Or even cheat. Get used to the idea of treating women badly and realizing that it really doesn't affect you. In fact, they're used to it. You don't lose anything for this. The relationship was temporary anyway. You were just meeting your needs and using the relationship as your tool to do so.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

30 years old. Check.

6’5”. Check.

Own two businesses. Check.

The only questions here are, why are you not fucking… Whoever the fuck you want? Why don’t you run a soft harem?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

6'5 worried lmao

[–]PhaedrusHunt4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Let me ask you this Opie.

Have you seen what her mother looks like? That's what you're signing up for.

When I was 20 I had this 22 year old HB 9 smoking hot girlfriend. She was my one-itis blah blah blah (looking back though it's funny to think that even through my one-itis I still screwed around haha).

I stayed at her house with her family for a little while during the summer. Her mom was a shitshow amazingly ugly horrible personality big fat stupid mean the whole thing. I mean this bitch was mean to kittens. Her dad was a little simp.

And I thought what in the hell How did she come from these people? She'll always be beautiful she'll never look like her mother.

Fast forward 20 years. She looks like some combination of the worst versions of her mother and father. It happens dude It happens. although she has an identical twin sister that's somehow still hot so I don't know what the hell that's about lol. I would have banged the sister too but I knew she had herpes and I saved one of my best friends from hitting that shit.

Take a good look at her mom Opie. You are so far in this girl's frame and you are hamstering so hard over somebody that might pull a pin on a fat grenade in a few years

Pump the brakes and slow your roll dude

[–]ClockLad1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol @ Opie

Thanks pops

[–]xoxuv4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Edit: I wrongly read that she hooked after you started the relationship.

Look, all you mention about the dude doesn't necessarily makes him alpha.

Just trust your gut. If you have doubt, that's a problem which will not go away.

Women are expert at plausible deniability. That's why you have gut feelings.

It is wrong to search for "proof". There are other women which will not have that issue.

You have to keep multiple plates, all the time, so you do not become dependent of this type of "what if". It is not your duty to give her the benefit of the doubt. That's her problem. She has to prove herself. That's not your work.

You do not deserve to live in doubt.

[–]atanoidserial2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like others say get a prenup,she knows she's gonna hit the wall and since you have all this...

[–]bert_cj2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

You sound like a catch bro. She probably feels like she hit a major upgrade with you. You fear you might compare yourself later? Ehh it sounds like you blow this dude out of the water, only thing is he might have a better looking face but that’s not enough to get insecure about. What’s your body fat percentage?

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[–]bert_cj0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Sounds like things are going well for you my guy. 6’5 and have two businesses. She might have told her friends about how gorgeous that other dude is but she definitely raves to her friends about how awesome you are. Dude might have a cute face, but that’s just one factor. If she’s doing everything to try and please you it sounds like she already sees how valuable you are.

I guarantee if you drop down to 12-15 BF% you’ll feel amazing and hella confident. I always do. I’m at about 10% and maintaining that. Probably fluctuate between 10-12. Used to be constant 20 for 2-3 years straight. I’ve never really cared about my girls past because I know my value. Trust me yours is higher so you should feel way more confident than me. Dropping BF% has probably been my biggest confidence booster.

[–]Jovan10000 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

10% is impressive BF% I want to get down to atleast 11-12% I’m at around 16-18% any suggestions on diet or exercise? I want to maintain muscle.

[–]bert_cj0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

High protein, low calorie. Works for me. And I play basketball a lot.

I work 8am - 5pm. Have breakfast in the morning. Lunch at noon. And a 2nd lunch at around 4:30p. All home cooked / meal prepped. Low calorie high protein with some carbs. Usually a protein like chicken breast, or lean ground turkey. I have a variety of meals I swap out so I don’t get tired of eating the same thing. But my meals are usually a serving of veggies, a serving of carbs like rice or potato and protein. Gonna start incorporating pork chops.

Morning I have oatmeal with a scoop of whey and with some berries and walnuts. It’s delicious. Or 6 eggs with chorizo and potatoes if I get tired of oatmeal, that’s maybe once a week.

For working out. I just do basic exercises. Incorporate progressive overload. Change between high reps low weight and low reps high weight every couple weeks or so. I keep it basic and simple.

If you want more info let me know. There’s tons of cool YouTube channels I like that have a lot of useful info regarding working out and eating. Like protein chef and fit men cook.

I only eat out on weekends. Usually I’ll have the same breakfast. But then a cheat meal. Not really a cheat meal because I don’t eat the shittiest thing on the menu. I try to avoid fried foods whenever possible.

I think the key to achieving low BF% is to avoid eating out and cook as much as possible. That’s just my opinion.

[–]Jovan10001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sweet! I believe this will work for me. High protein low calorie diet sounds good. I subscribed to both of the guys channels you mentioned. I don’t think I’ve ever been lower than 17% BF I know what you mentioned would definitely get me lower BF. I’m going to change my diet your feed back is much appreciated.

[–]yamicaGreenbowl1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't worry about her past as far as your own status goes. She is with you now, the only thing her past should affect is how you view her and your future relationship. This is more telling of how you view yourself, you got a girl that could be with professional athletes right now and you decided to use that against yourself. This should be a boost to your status, and show you how the world spins. And she will compare you, she already has and your still in the running. Good on you. How exactly did you see these texts? Be more concerned about how worried this makes you, and lowering your status all on your own.

[–]UrBallsAreShowing1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Once has a LTR who had an ex husband who was a navy seal. When I learned that he was a seal, I almost packed it up. It bothered me for a while. Truth is though, he was a maniac with a shrimp dick. If your dick matches your hight, use that as your scale tipper. He can be 6’3 with a little dick all day.

[–]Jaganshi931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you are worried imagine 5'8 guy. You sound like a bitch to me. Keep fucking her,dont care about others dudes and if she leaves you so what? yo need to change your mindset.

[–]VigilantSmartbomb1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is nice getting some decent responses to stuff lately lol

[–]Casd121 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You know what would be fucking hilarious? If the soccer player had the same insecure bluepill, pussy on the pedestal, I'm not the prize mentality that you have rn and she dumped him cus of that.

How does this not boost your ego? I would be like "damn that guys way better looking than me but I'm out here bagging her so I must be hella sick"

I know this guy at work, dude looks straight up like a movie star, but his mentality is bluepill as fuck and I can sense he's slightly insecure. So girls usually comes in with high interest and it's so sad to watch him fuck up. It's like watching a grown ass eagle attempt to fly and fail, and then get way too scared to attempt that flying shit again.

The same shit goes for girls, you can be the prettiest girl I've ever seen but if your mentality isn't right, I'll fuck you, brag to my friends and choose the next best thing instead.

Also don't be afraid to lose her, cus I feel like that's making your frame weak

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[–]LordFlakkko1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus I'm 5.10. Its over for manlets

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Envy does not become you as a man.

You're the prize here. Not your LTR, not some dude she fucked in the past. You are.

The issue is you forgot that you're the prize.

Envy is the mentality of a little boy who is afraid his mother figure is going to ignore him and pay attention to his bigger brother.

Time to shrug off the remnants of the chrysalis of your childhood. You're the man in your life and you always have other options.

[–]Ohboohoolittlegirl0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Why is this even a question?
Or was this before you started LTR?

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[–]Ohboohoolittlegirl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wouldn't worry too much in that case. If she isn't behaving like an Alpha Widow, it was probably just a hook up.. It doesn't diminish your status, it doesn't lift it. It is as is.

[–]Estebano_70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What businesses do you own?

[–]alphakari0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Pussy. Worry about it if it happens.

[–]Blue_Andre0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Looks like a case of AWALT. And doesn’t look like she was serious about your “relationship.”

Looks > your business and max bench. I also doubt that you have higher status than he does, being a former professional soccer player (status = popularity and social authority).

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[–]Blue_Andre5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see, I read that wrong. So you’re basically just spinning your hamster.

[–]Iluvalmonds830 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think you’re worried too soon. You’ve only been with her 6 months. I read where you are looking to head towards marriage and kids; you really need to be focused on assessing her personality/demeanor/character(ie her overall RMV, not just her SMV) as well if you want to accurately vet this “LTR” for that goal. This chad sounds like he’s a hot mess; is that really comparable to you? You sound like the overall better prize, just need to actually convince yourself of that. If she’s of any high value, it makes sense as to why she ditched the ex soccer player for a higher value man(i.e. you ). You just need to make sure she’s worthy of your value for a committed relationship.

[–]LeChumScrubber0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you shouldn't feel "threatened" by anybody considering you stats. at the first gut instinct that her whore instincts are starting to kick in, cuck her first and then ghost.

[–]beachbbqlover0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Irrelevant. She's clearly picking you for a reason, so let her and stop worrying about it - unless you're asking because you want to marry her and raise all 8 of her kids?

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Are you the rebound?

[–]learning00070 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Who gives a shit

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're the prize here. Not him, not your LTR. You.

Envy is the trait of a frigtened child who is afraid his mother figure will pay attention to his older brother. Because you're somehow "unworthy" or "inferior." (This is because a child's ego wants to believe his parents were fair and just and wise.)

Envy does not become you as a man. There are fewer tendencies that are more unbecoming to you than envy. You stopped being a little boy a long time ago. Time to shrug of the remnants of the chrysalis of your childhood.

You're the man in your life and you always have options.

[–]jc_8060 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude it’s about the confidence you have in yourself.

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He’s obviously not interested in her. That Chad is fucking a million of girls right now. Probably can’t even remember your LTR’s name. Nothing to worry about.

[–]ColossalEngineer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

6 foot 5

thats when i knew it was a lie.

[–]strainer1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're 6'5, 240 pounds, makes lots of dough and you think you're not the alpha? Relax man, you are the alpha, soccer players aren't even that muscular, they have bigger legs and whatever but you're probably bigger.

[–]1MrTheFalcon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Forget the girl. Are you good enough for yourself? Once you are comfortable with your position in life, then it won't matter who she was with before, unless she bring it up (which she has not). You're inside your own head about this.

[–]mabden0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

>found out she hooked up a few times with a former professional soccer player

So fucking what. She is fucking you now, his turn is over. If you are worried she will jump back on his dick if he comes sniffing around, then you are insecure as others have pointed out. Your turn will only last as long as you either; want it to or you blow yourself out with this insecurity/beta bullshit.

>he's significantly better looking than me.

So fucking what. There will always be some other guy who is bigger, faster, better than you, past, present, or future.

> I own two businesses, have higher social status, and make more money than him

So fucking what.

> should I jump ship sooner than later?

You jump ship when she fucks up. So far the only person fucking up is you.

> I feel like she's always going to be comparing me to him.

You mean like when she is frigging herself after you are done fucking her? So far the evidence of this post suggests the only person comparing him to you, is you.

Get the fuck over it, move on, live life large, on your terms, with peace.

[–]schwaebebaby0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck yall are some insecure alpha male types

[–]Zanford0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cold truth time: the mere fact that you've been in an LTR for six months with this girl means you'er probably not the highest SMV guy she's ever fucked.

A girl will have a hardest time keeping around the highest-SMV guys, and she can potentially have a lot more ONSs than LTRs in her life b/c ONSs by definition don't take as long.

So if you LTR a girl, you just need to realize that, if you're in a Western metro area in 2020, odds are good she's fucked at least one 'alpha that got away'. If you can't handle that in principle, either avoid LTRs or screen for virgins.

Otherwise, this is a non issue. Has there been any indication she's still/back in contact with him? Has she been bringing him up in conversation? If you have no evidence she's been thinking about him since your LTR with her started, then there's nothing worse here than in a typical LTR with a modern metro-area thot, so this isn't really a reason to dump her unless you're swearing off LTRs in general. Or just bored of her and need to give yourself an excuse.

If what you said about your career and physical boy are accurate, and your game is decent, your SMV is good. But the kiss of death is if you let her know that this ex is 'getting to you' or you're insecure. Do not EVER bring him up, it might give her the idea to get back in touch with him .

[–]Rage81500 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're creating problems that don't exist. Everything sounds great right now and youre in a position many guys would love to be in. Enjoy it and quit overthinking.

[–]illusiveab0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

6'5 240 and your max bench is 285? Lol I'm 5'11 175 and my max bench is 265. Get your fucking weight up my dude.

[–]Sliw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like you're pre-emptively disqualifying yourself.

[–]bionix900 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Man, this is just depressing when top tier men such as OP have to go through this.

[–]Suchnamebro0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is the same post that gets reposted over and over again.

Hey guys I'm a super Chad and I work out. But I'm insecure about this other guy who I think is more Chadlier than I am.

My girl is a Victoria secret supermodel, who does what I want when I want. But she had another guy's pee pee inside her , should I dump her or cuck myself?!


Stop asking the internet to make decisions for you. That's not alpha.

Are you happy where you are right now ?! Yes ...then who gives a fuck and do what you want to do

Not happy then change what makes you unhappy

But please stop with these masturbation posts

[–]EdvardMunch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If its good now its good now, you cant control the future or her desires. Jumping ship early is paranoia as is showing concern.

Focus on yourself and be happy for what it is now. Even the greatest loves and best relationships dont always last forever.

A lot of these critical comments and justification comments are just these guys projections and hamstering. Youre worried, thats it. But no point in worrying. Wanna end it so you dont worry then do it.

[–]rockyp320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She had sex with a hot dude before you? Did u have sex with a hottie before her? That didn’t have the LTR traits like she does? Doesn’t it seem crazy she might think u might leave her for an old hottie working a minimum wage job

[–]SirAttackHelicopter0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

LTR of six months

6 months isn't LTR. This is the mindset most guys unfortunately have due to putting women up on a pedestal. This mindset also needs to change because this speaks volumes on how you view women, and how little you value yourself as a partner.

[–]NigroqueSimillima0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Disagree, 6 months is when relationships begin to cross into the LTR stage

[–]SirAttackHelicopter0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

So your definition of LTR is calendar time? Like I said in my previous post, this disparity from reality is the reason why there is such cognitive dissonance in young men.

[–]NigroqueSimillima0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

LTR is a vague word that means different things to different people. To me it means a relationship that I'm invested enough that I would be emotionally upset if it ended. And if I've been fucking a girl exclusively for 6 months, I'd probably feel that way, and I'm betting most men would too.

[–]SirAttackHelicopter0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

LTR is a vague word

No it isn't. "fucking a girl exclusively for 6 months" isn't LTR either. Having a FWB for 6 months doesn't mean LTR either. It's simple, really. An LTR is literally an agreement between two parties. Obviously the terms and conditions vary from couple to couple, and must be laid out, which is why when someone starts to poke and prod about whether their relationship is LTR or not, the other person can either agree to it or not agree to it. If both parties can't agree to it, call it off and find someone else. See? Simple.

[–]NigroqueSimillima0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No it isn't.

Yeah it is. What's considered long term is subjective.

An LTR is literally an agreement between two parties.

What? No one says "we're officially a long term relationship", they say we're "officially dating", but just because you've decided it's exclusive doesn't make it a LTR.

[–]Gawernator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Curious how a pro soccer player has only a minimum wage job, doesn't sound real.

[–]mksu9110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like she's ridden the carousel and you're her beta bucks

[–]thechaosz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I feel like I don't need to say this, but you're obviously well above average in the Providing, Physical financial game to most men. I'm not as big as you but am in a somewhat similar life mode.


I don't care if you post in 7 years telling me about how it worked out this or that. Year 9/10 she gets "bored" and old Soccer dude moves back into town and whoos her on IG.

I've seen so many men get wrecked. Ok, this next part will come slowly. It's not even intentional sometimes, I did this younger with some sugar mommas.

If she starts expecting you to buy things. It will slowly creep in with drinks and dinner, then random gifts and clothes, then tix, then trips, then her part of the rent.

Just smash until it's ran it's course. Congrats on the find.

[–]DonJuan_690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you cant control it, dont worry about jt. But jf it makes you feel that uncomfortable, enjoy it for a bit and switch to a new one.

[–]Gaidsbola0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

FYI based on your size you shouldn’t be posting your max bench unless it’s at least 405.

[–]MandingoMaasai0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting. Sounds like you are alpha bux and he alpha fux. She has found an alpha who has also piqued her hypergamy. You are successful, tall and muscular whereas he is exciting perhaps because of his looks and spontaneous nature. This is a guess because you haven't provided alot to go one. My advice? Enjoy the ride. Get more spontaneous and hit the gym more. I would also add that you should apply some passive dread.

[–]alleyteris-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

What exactly do you Mena by "hooked up in front of me"? Do explain some more dude

[–]Unbiased101-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ur beta bux

[–]DonJuan_69-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Max bench 285? Im 5’7 157lbs at 240 max bench.

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