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Would you let a man fuck you in the ass because he's a good/moral/nice guy? If not why are you angry because women don't reward "nice guys" with pussy.

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April 16, 2020

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Title	Would you let a man fuck you in the ass because he's a good/moral/nice guy? If not why are you angry because women don't reward "nice guys" with pussy.
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	2
Comments	63
Date	April 16, 2020 5:45 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/g2jq98/would_you_let_a_man_fuck_you_in_the_ass_because/
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[–]jax006 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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These were two of the three top comments and my responses were downvoted to nill. So it seems men agree with this "straw man"

But they pointed out that women are more attracted to Dark Triad traits. The argument isn't that men deserve sex for being nice but rather that it makes no sense women prefer assholes WHEN THEY SAY they want nice guys. But even if virtue isn't a worthwhile reason to be fucked, you're basically defending women's preferences for the worst men.

Would you be willing to accept that women's preferences for men with Dark Triad traits could cause them harm, lead to unstable families and, broadly speaking, disincentivise men behaving in a more virtuous way if it doesn't help them when searching for a partner?

People are saying you're strawmanning because you're ignoring what they're saying and purposefully misinterpreting their argument. If a guy notices that assholes are getting sex, love and attention, it stands to reason they'd wonder why they're being overlooked when they'd treat women better.

What red pills these guys is the fact that women give zero fucks about virtue and target men with status, looks and DT traits.

Ethically speaking, wouldn't it make sense for women to desire the nice guys first before resorting to assholes? And wouldn't it make sense that someone willing to treat women well might wonder why an abuser gets love, sex and attention far more than he does? If you were a mom to a boy, wouldn't you want him to treat his future girlfriends well?

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[–]Barely-moralRed leaning purple-seal. Diagnosed ASPD 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

So you are answering to my comment and you are ignoring all my responses and comments in the matter?

Ok. Here we go again. I am not even going to write anything new. Just copy paste my previous answers and link to the comments where I adressed literally everything you are talking about here.

Lets start from here

Immorality is punished by hell. If you don't believe in a God then immorality and morality are meaningless because nothing matters.

Spare me. No religion nor culture has a monopoly on morality and morality can be conceived and used even without the existence of a supernatural figure that writes the rules as it see's fit and deals punishments or rewards as it wants.

Being a wife beater is punished with jail time and fines. That's their punishment. They get locked up and lose years of their life. You reward for being a good productive citizen and paying your taxes is not being locked up.

And yet, the one that is going to die alone and unloved without ever knowing how it feels to be desired or loved by a member of the opposite sex is not henry.

The reason the nice guy is complaining in the first place is because he feels (correctly) that henry is having a better life considering the actions that both him and henry are doing.

We can say whatever we want. Henry is getting the better deal even if he is a literal serial abuser and wife beater. Even after we consider the fines and the jail time. The nice guy will eventually lose to his depression and loneliness and will end up with a bullet in his head.

There is absolutely no way to defend a system that allows for that to happen.

Original comment that you ignored.

Now to the next part.

So this guy thinks our nice guy should be getting more pussy than a woman beater/cheater. But why? Why must women choose their partners based on some retarded morality? Why can't they just have sex with whoever they find attractive? If someone told I should date ugly nice girls i'd tell them to fuck off. Who are you to tell another person what they should do with their private parts?

I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth. I said that a system that allows for an immoral person to have a better life than a moral person is Fucked up. I said nothing about women having any obligation nor duty to choose their partners based on some retarded morality.

There doesn't need to be an explanation. Men aren't entitled to sex because their are nice.

I never said anything about men being owed anything. So no, men are not entitled to anything for being nice.

Would you let a man fuck you in the ass to reward his niceness? NO! You don't give a shit how nice he is; you don't want to do it. But but but ...Henry is literally a woman beater. Guess what? Some women don't give a shit. Just like when guys date crazy voilent BPD chicks because she's hot.

Nothing about sexual selection needs to be good or fair or moral.

True. And yet, a system that allows an immoral person to have a better life than a moral person is fucked up and indefensible.

The only time woman ended up "choosing" niceness over what they like is when they were basically property. The the dream world of the nerd is that women get sopping wet for niceness and they literally get angry when women don't live up to retarded ideal.

The correct response to a system that allows an immoral person to have a better life than a moral person is anger.

The talk about free will was already had in the comments of that post. But just so you stop putting words in my mouth I am going to copy and paste my position on the matter.

[Whatever is the cause of a situation that is this fucked up is a problem. Nothing that causes such an immoral situation or this kind of results can be defended.

If the cause of this situation is free will. Then free will is the problem. The same goes for individual personal liberties.

I am not saying that those are the causes. But I am saying that whatever is causing a situation this bad and this back asswards is a problem and I can't see any benefit on it's existence.](https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/g19f0a/radicalizing_the_romanceless_a_peek_into_the_ego/fnehn8b/)

What’s fucked up is taking free will away

Good thing it can't be done. But we can make it a non factor. By creating an an alternative source of sex and relationships that has no free will. That is the reason I advocate for creating a replacement for all human interactions with technology and not judging the people that use that option.

To make it short. Men are not entitled to anything for any reason. And even if that is true. A system that allows an immoral man like Henry from radicalizing the romanceless to have a better life than a moral man is fucked up and indefensible.

Also, I am opposed to forcing people to do anything. And there are ways to change the system without forcing anyone to do anything.

Read more about the discussions that happen in your own posts.

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You weren't very moral in the first place if you'd suggest that men should start raping women in response to it.

Where did I suggest that? I said that if you think that morality doesn't matter, then rape should be allowed.Obviously I don't believe that men should be able to run around freely and have sex with whoever they want. Neither should women though.

There is nothing stopping you from having sex with whoever you want. But you are still part of the society whether you like it or not. If you have sex with a bad guy and reject a good guy, you are directly rewarding bad behaviour and punishing good behaviour. You shouldn't be surprised when other people call you immoral.

Men are not allowed to follow all their instincts and we are fine with that. We accept that. We understand that it's a destructive thing.But women should also restrain themselves as well. Women think that their little sexual revolution is worth more than men dropping out of society and commiting suicide. That's not ok.

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