For you RP’ers out there, how many of you follow your morality? (Q4RP)

Barely-moral · 2020-06-30T19:55:30+00:00

I have my own codes. I use TRP knowledge and tactics because they are useful, but my own code of morality comes first.

TRP is a tool, I decide how to use it. You can use a hammer to build or to bash skulls, same goes for any other tool.

SexySPACsMan · 2020-06-30T19:52:04+00:00

100%

The world is bad enough, I'd never intentionally hurt someone.

RP stuff is great for keeping me grounded, but following it to the letter is a great way to live a horribly unfulfilling life where everyone you come in contact with hates your guts.

ToraChan23 · 2020-06-30T21:46:33+00:00

Which parts of TRP are difficult for you to internalize?

I’ve never had to compromise my morals living through TRP ideals. I live based on doing what’s best for me, period.

However, since I’m not a monster, hurting someone isn’t doing what’s best for me, since I would have nothing to gain from that. TRP isn’t about breaking women’s hearts and stabbing people in the back.

I know that any woman I deal with, whether for a casual hookup or something more, will do whatever is best for HER, whether that includes me or not. I simply do the same.

Aaren_Augustine · 2020-06-30T19:43:53+00:00

Used to be PR, but due to following my morals, I'm purple.

In some sense, for men, I think you have to see things amoral first. And if you can then "afford" morals, go for it.

sleeping with a married woman

Given my extensive time in askTRP, men that want to do this have a very sick fetish in cucking the husband. Its usually because they still lack options so they are going after women with only 1 "opponent". These dude are so beta, they'll never even rise to be beta bux.

cheating on your LTR

I just try to look at it in the frame of dignity. We're all here to have boundaries so others don't take our dignity. And we don't want to treat people in a way that will take their dignity.

theoracleofosiris · 2020-07-01T04:26:58+00:00

Me liking myself is more important than girls liking me.

spidermark34 · 2020-07-01T15:12:33+00:00

Great stuff dude! I agree with people saying that it’s a tool and is not meant to be the holy grail when it comes to every decision in your life

jax006 · 2020-06-30T20:10:04+00:00

I think pretty much anyone's got some morals that are external to and more overarching than RP game. Everyone draws the line at a different point though.

Personally? I would sleep with a married woman sure, butdont think I could cheat on a LTR.

I will essentially lie to girls via omission in early dating, but I wouldn't be able to lie to a girl explicitly.

Ordinate1 · 2020-06-30T21:13:51+00:00

I find that having knowledge of RP actually interferes with using it, from a moral standpoint.

Sepean · 2020-06-30T22:12:56+00:00

Strategy is amoral - that does in no way imply that the people who know the strategy are without morals.

Matt_Door · 2020-06-30T22:17:31+00:00

Yes, I have my own code and ideals and I try my best to live them. However, over the years my views have change and,my tolerances have changed and I can’t say I still have the same idealism I had in my youth, I’ve gained some wisdom in some things and have either mellowed, sold out or achieved more balance depending in your post of view.

itiswr1tten · 2020-06-30T20:20:05+00:00

Amorality is a rule to keep discussion focused. TRP is amoral only in the sense that you cannot moralize to make a point.

"cheating is wrong" is moralizing.

Saying "though there are definitely advantages from a sexual strategy perspective, it doesn't jive with me to cheat" is fine.

See the difference?

Plenty of actual TRP dudes follow various moral codes.

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pablosito · 2020-06-30T20:48:59+00:00

I try very hard to follow my own moral code. And I hold other people accountable too. If you behave poorly or cross a line that’s it. Of course your question is very vague. Everything kind of depends on what scenario you’re talking about. Fucking a married woman has its own set of issues, are they in an open relationship? Is she pursuing you or you them? FWB has its own. Could you see yourself dating this person down the line? What things need to happen for that? Or why wouldn’t you officially date this person? LTR? what does the person have to do for you to end it? What standards are they holding you too?

There’s just too much variety in what the rules could be in a relationship that really makes this question hard. But as a general rule yes, I try and hold myself up to my own moral code.

RahLyt · 2020-06-30T21:31:12+00:00

Too much nihilistic to live by the common morality most people follow. I think for me it changed too much even even after becoming red 5 years ago. Yes the process is really hard, thats why there's some people who go full autistic, it is easier to assimilate trp concepts when you start receiving good feedback, but that's hard to get if you're not brazy enough.

Chloe1906 · 2020-06-30T23:02:31+00:00

My morals are pretty straight forward and has little to do with TRP. On principle I follow the selfish side of trp, but in practice I never am a dick to people (women in this regard). I don't respect them as some simps do, but I do acknowledge the boundaries of social interactions.

When terps say trp is amoral it means that we do not judge the situations by basic beta moral norms which are created to keep those beta men in check. But that doesn't mean you must forget about morality of your own. Trp gives tools and theory on how to achieve your desired ends and it is on you if you gonna use them or not.

Personal accountability is rather overlooked concept of trp. Not many newbies understand this. Whatever you do, you are responsible for the consequences.

MP8877 · 2020-06-30T23:44:03+00:00

Can the Dark RP'ers answer too?

MGTOW_IN_JAPAN · 2020-07-01T01:26:41+00:00

I'm MGTOW not because the red pill didn't work for me. I have no issues using it and quite successful, but I have a conscience.

I hate that I have to play games and do RP shit to keep a girl, so I just opt out.

2020-07-01T01:27:41+00:00

I have a bunch of rules I live by. So many that it drives a lot of people nuts.

2020-07-01T01:39:46+00:00

Bro, you can be aware of RP knowledge and still keep to your values.

For example:

there’s a girl I used to hook up with who has a bf now and she’s been reaching out to me unprompted multiple times. She wants us to go camping together - just us. I ignore her or ask how her bf is doing because I think what she’s doing is despicable. If I was amoral then I’d fuck her and think “survival of the fittest bro sorry not sorry about your slut!”
Another is a gen z girl who I was flirting with and she was begging me to fuck her in any way that I wanted if it meant I would be in a relationship with her. Some guys might jump at that but it’s clear this girl was going to get hurt. Badly. If I slept with her. Women come and go. Trauma stays (and so does a stage 5 clinger), so I faded her.

Thats not me. That’s not who I desire to become. That’s not part of my mission.

TRP is amoral when we discuss its validity - the truth that it exists and why it exists. What you choose to do with it is up to you.

The greatest gift TRP gave me is realizing that women are not the key to my happiness. TRP helped me realize that I had the key all along.

At the end of the day, there really is no right way or wrong way to use TRP. That’s a journey only you can venture and only you can decide what pathways you want to go down.

wtknight · 2020-07-01T01:48:32+00:00

Reflaired as Question for RedPill

stats135 · 2020-06-30T20:51:34+00:00

I follow my morality, but as far as I'm concerned there isn't that much contradiction with real world usage of TRP to begin with.

MP8877 · 2020-06-30T20:05:36+00:00

For the most part, I think that it's important to be narcissistic and amoral (within legal rights) in your desires if you wish to have them fulfilled. As a light example, if there is sexual chemistry between myself and a woman with a boyfriend, why should I care about her boyfriend? Her infidelity is not my problem.

2020-06-30T20:42:45+00:00

Way, way too much. I could be having a much better time, and I'm not doing these slooots any favors by not giving them when they want.

Tyler_Gatsby · 2020-06-30T22:46:42+00:00

I wouldn't cheat on a gf, but I have and would be the guy they cheated with. It's one of those, "If you don't do it, somebody else will. She's going to do somebody, anyway" kind of things.

Also, imo, the husbands or bf's of the woman I usually do sort of deserve it. The husband of the last married woman I touched definitely should have already divorced or left her. He basically just turned a blind eye, so long as she eventually came home. He needed his second mommy figure in his life.

MP8877 · 2020-07-01T00:37:03+00:00

We all know TRP is amoral.

What? How is understanding female nature amoral?

But it works.

What? Works at WHAT? It's understanding female nature. What a man DOES with that knowledge is another matter.

It’s not a judgement of others, rather the acceptance of biological reality.

Right. So, it's not amoral and there is nothing wrong with it.

So, how many of you guys are fully RP’d and still hanging on to your morals when it comes to respect and LTRs and / or FWB? How many of you have gone full fuck it mode and just live for you?

I'm Red Pill, MGTOW and pretty much a voluntary celibate at this point. If a woman knocked on my door, opened her raincoat and said "fuck me please" I might put on a condom and oblige her, but aside from that (never happening) I put zero resources (time, money or energy) into chasing women. Zero. And, I don't pay for sex because it's just not my thing, "sugaring" (cock teasing) included.

So for me, I guess this question might not even apply, because if I have no sexual behaviour there can be no moral issue with it. Unless all those women out there are all really mourning the fact I am no longer including myself in the mating meat market.

And I'm pretty sure approximately ZERO WOMEN feel that way! lololol.

And that's fine by me. ;-)

Title	For you RP’ers out there, how many of you follow your morality? (Q4RP)
Author	MP8877
Upvotes	8
Comments	109
Date	June 30, 2020 7:37 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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