Canada: There is no need for domestic violence services for men

DownrightCaterpillar · 2019-08-26T06:25:31+00:00

Relevant quote:

“The province does not fund shelters for men with their children or transition houses for men because there has not been a demonstrated need for this particular service,” said Melanie Kilpatrick.

Egalitarianwhistle · 2019-08-26T06:34:04+00:00

I call bullshit. This is male disposability all over again

Egalitarianwhistle · 2019-08-26T07:28:47+00:00

Also, according to social mores... women have inherent value. Men are only valuable insofar as they produce something of value.

Ody_ssey · 2019-08-26T07:58:19+00:00

Keep making Canada more anti-male. Men in government and universities might be so ashamed of their gender.

PeasantArmy · 2019-08-26T14:48:12+00:00

I have no dog in Canadians fights, but as the victim of domestic violence along with my son its not surprising to read.

The part that upsets me though, is the double talk. When men dont report to the police but do report in surveys, "the data doesnt back up the need." When women dont report to the police but do in surveys there is an issue with why women dont feel comfortable reporting.

The above isn't even pointed towards people on the interent or in media only, but even people I know irl and am friends with take the same stance.

Lethn · 2019-08-26T13:11:57+00:00

Feminists don't care about equality and they are abuse and rape deniers, I don't care how many enemies I make stating this, the truth must be heard and read.

IronJohnMRA · 2019-08-26T11:48:51+00:00

Translation: Feminists want to keep all the money for themselves.

blazexddd · 2019-08-26T14:31:12+00:00

Same country who changed mankind to peoplekind ?

dukunt · 2019-08-26T15:51:24+00:00

I left an abusive relationship. I became a single dad of three. We were very near to being homeless. I contacted women's shelters and the only option they had for us was to move to a hotel which would have meant giving up out dogs. I was broke and ruined. It took me years to fully realize the damaged that she had done to me and my kids. I couldn't think, I couldn't talk to anyone about it without breaking down to tears. I was put on long-term disability and spent time in a hospital. All due to an abusive relationship. I did find a place no thanks to the government. It's only now 3 years later that I fully understand what was going on back then. I finally feel more like my old self. It's only now that my kids understand that their parents relationship was not how married adults act. The damage to them was very apparent to me. Abuse does happen to men. We're just bigger and stronger so we don't fight back. We just take it day after day after day and the damage builds and builds until we put a gun in our mouth to make it stop. There is little help for men. The only reason I'm still here is because I called a suicide prevention line and got help. I was hospitalized. I needed help but didn't know where to go. Men need help. Men need to help men. Women's shelters won't. Help your brother. Listen to him. Look for signs. Encourage him to get help. A social worker at the hospital listened to me and she got me to a doctor. She saved my life that day.

-Dragonhawk1029- · 2019-08-26T15:56:51+00:00

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tableender · 2019-08-26T15:06:46+00:00

This sums up the social consequences of violence for women perpetrators being negligible. A true mark of a coward is to hit somebody knowing they can't hit you back. This is why cowardly men feel free to hit women in private and cowardly women feel free to hit men in public.

2019-08-26T15:12:02+00:00

No need for services because men don't use them. No services for men because men don't use them. Men don't use services because they don't exist. - fucking mental gymnastics at its peak

_Introverted_Spirit · 2019-08-26T15:00:03+00:00

This is horrible. More and more men kill themselves everyday because of these disgusting articles that outcasts men's own experiences with domestic violence.

Hoboman2OO1 · 2019-08-26T15:55:38+00:00

I’m a Canadian and currently going through high school and one of the female teachers are telling their students that men can’t be raped by women while my friend who is a guy was raped by a women was in her class, another teacher is such a feminist that when we have discussions on these topics she says they’re bullshit and when the 4 guys of a class of 24 give statistics that prove her wrong she marks us wrong for giving the “wrong” opinion.

2019-08-26T18:09:25+00:00

This just after that excellent post the other day

https://reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cv5iir/there_are_many_programs_for_men_to_stand_up/

which contains a very strongly sourced and worded call for men's domestic violence services, referencing a lot of Canadian data, and published in 2012.

And of course by 2012 it was already old news and common knowledge among interested people that men were, as they are, ridiculously underserved.

deaftoexcuses · 2019-08-26T10:00:49+00:00

The NDP needs to get off of the identity politics bandwagon and remember the common citizens they exist to serve. Otherwise, they're just a bunch of elitist hypocrites; dismissing vulnerable men in order to further assist the already fully assisted. Feminism, does not represent all people justly and they need to stop deferring to its assumptions.

RoughRain · 2019-08-26T16:09:12+00:00

Feminist = Gender Supremist

LettuceBeGrateful · 2019-08-26T17:19:52+00:00

25% of DV homicides are men: I sleep

25% of homeless are women: DEFCON 1

J2501 · 2019-08-26T17:14:46+00:00

What complete crap. There are so many traps that lay in wait for a man, or any gender really, who is right out of an abusive, exploitative, or infidelity-ridden relationship, and so little meaningful help.

Within a year of suffering a terrible break-up from someone who struck me out of anger and cheated on me, I was still emotionally distraught, unable to hold a job, being catfished, slandered, and romance scammed, and the whole experience exacerbated a debilitating drug habit. This never lead to any meaningful help whatsoever. It lead to incarceration.

Just trying to get someone other than a cold, detached clinician to listen to me lead me to kinda make a scene on the internet, attracting the wrong kind of attention, and then I went to jail.

There is most certainly a need for better services for men, specifically, in those kinds of situations. Instead, we are told to 'walk it off', stopping to cry when you legitimately feel terrible is 'for pussies', and ultimately, if we can't make the same old VIG we've always been making, it's termination, eviction, and incarceration for us.

Really, there is a huge corporate and governnental misunderstanding of how a man's options going forward from this will usually be worse than the average woman's. There will always be some desperate sycophant to redeem her faith in humanity and help her carry on. Men, on the other hand, are expected to BE that sycophant to a woman, and it is likely no social progress will be made until we are 'healthy' (read:naively, idealistically deluded, because that's 'mental health' to a privileged, established authority) enough to become desperate sycophants once again!

omegaphallic · 2019-08-26T14:00:44+00:00

If Mayor Krog runs for Federal NDP leader after Jagmeet Singh gets the boot after the next election, he has my support 100%.

iloveyoudeft · 2019-08-26T17:28:50+00:00

I'm Canadian and fuck Canada. Fuck all these Tumblr users pretending Canada is so amazing because we don't have Trump as president (Trudeau is honestly worse).

robcars · 2019-08-26T18:20:09+00:00

The problem is the laws are all geared towards women. The laws are also geared towards the weaker one. I happen to be a cis gay male he has a much smaller guy and I'm in twice as big but I will never hit anyone but he has gone crazy and tried to hit me with a shovel hit me with other stuff and then he scratched his face and said I did it and I believed him because I was bigger.

2019-08-26T15:35:50+00:00

Canada seems to think very feminist. Clearly their idea of equality is on display.

-Dragonhawk1029- · 2019-08-26T16:15:39+00:00

WEll that's pretty fucking stupid considering the Suicide ratio of men to women there

robcars · 2019-08-26T18:20:45+00:00

I also had a straight friend that his wife was terrible. Hit him with pots and pans and he was not a fighter and they said that's not possible when he called the police and she said he threatened her that he had the bruises on him.

AdvocatusDiabli · 2019-08-26T15:54:44+00:00

I fail to see the need for gendered shelters. It’s a waste of money to build men shelters next to existing female ones. Just open the current shelters to victims of domestic violence regardless of sex.

FadingShad0ws · 2019-08-26T18:40:34+00:00

It's good to know that my country doesn't have my back, should some shit go down with my spouse and force me to leave. Thanks Canada!

non-troll_account · 2019-08-26T21:02:42+00:00

Good news is, in Canada at this point, you can just claim to be a woman too, and you get access to all their services.

2019-08-26T16:33:55+00:00

Sweet Sweet Canada

Thesauruswrex · 2019-08-26T17:31:18+00:00

Shame on Canada.

speakingofsegues · 2019-08-26T17:01:15+00:00

What's that argument feminists always make about men not qualifying as victims of sexism because sexism has to be systemic?

double-happiness · 2019-08-26T19:13:30+00:00

Related - UNPOPULAR OPINION: Men's Domestic Violence Shelters Are a Misuse of Nonprofit Funding

Mefic_vest · 2019-08-26T19:59:02+00:00

“Female Privilege”

McFeely_Smackup · 2019-08-27T00:16:50+00:00

Yet another person who thinks domestic violence is a thunderdome style cage match where the one who punches hardest wins.

1LegendaryWombat · 2019-08-27T00:36:12+00:00

Another case of a person in charge having no idea what the hell they're talking about. The stats and data shows that there is a need. If 26% of...well, anything was ignored in most any other area, people would call that shit out.

Canada is one of the biggest offenders when it comes to the disparity in funding, but i had no idea how much, 734 MILLION dedicated to helping out women as opposed to nothing for men? Thats absurd.

DougDante · 2019-08-27T01:44:21+00:00

tweet with me to seek justice:

"Despite the government’s claim there is no “demonstrated need” for shelters, about 26 per cent of the British Columbians who have been killed as a result of domestic violence have been men" Look @SCC_eng @fordnation @JustinTrudeau #MensRights #Canada https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-why-no-shelters-for-male-victims-of-partner-violence

And in reply:

Please @JusticeCanadaEN , the Canadian Charter of Rights and Responsibilities as well as the relevant laws are abundantly clear that both males and females have a civil right to equal access to services. Fight civil rights violations that threaten the lives of victms.

rFadez · 2019-08-26T13:25:38+00:00

Canada is a complete socialist shit-fest of a country. The majority of the population is a bunch of brainwashed morons that can’t tell left from right, so they rely on the media to tell them what they think. As far as I’m concerned anyway the real Canada is dead.

DragoniZilan · 2019-08-26T15:39:06+00:00

Well, now my list is getting shorter! Im not up to move to the us, England has discriminatory laws, and Canada has this? Is Australia better?

A_Direwolf · 2019-08-26T18:49:15+00:00

Fuck Canada!

nitsua_rela_ · 2019-08-26T23:40:23+00:00

Stfu Canada

rabel111 · 2019-08-27T04:22:25+00:00

They clearly used the preferred feminist method, "if I close my eyes you aren't there". They checked every "women only" shelter and didn't find any men.

This is like using Duluth based police statistics to measure the gendered nature of domestic violence.

Seventh_Planet · 2019-08-26T20:23:33+00:00

Says who?

Men who need this need to be more vocal and demonstrate their need for such services. They didn't just pop into existence for women, they were fought for. The same can be expected of men.

2019-08-26T15:31:37+00:00

Fuck Canada. I will now avoid any and all Canadian products.

ninja_deli · 2019-08-27T17:27:28+00:00

If the patriarchy rules society...why wouldn't we as men have domestic violence shelters? Too much for feminists to process.

dexfagcasul · 2019-08-26T19:29:39+00:00

Dude I fucking hate Canada. Every story I see about that country just adds more fuel to my fire of why we shouldn’t elect more liberal and socialist people. They are ruining that country the same way a lot of Europe has been. Just look at Sweden man

Gray32339 · 2019-08-26T12:26:10+00:00

Sorry that your male rights are gone, eh

Sorry, that was a joke. Didn't mean to make I sound serious.

Title	Canada: There is no need for domestic violence services for men
Author	DownrightCaterpillar
Upvotes	1618
Comments	129
Date	August 26, 2019 6:24 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cvk95o/canada_there_is_no_need_for_domestic_violence/
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