Mom is preparing 6 year old “trans” kid for chemical castration. Father and Son opposes, and the father may not only lose his son, but be forced to pay for the castration as well.
I’d agree if there were objective evidence backing the “I wanted a girl” syndrome, but it’s just one person’s account, backed up by his pastor and a friend (not unbiased sources). We only have one side of the story. For all we know, the child does want to be a girl and the dad is horrified at the thought and wants to suppress it.
Puberty blockers are reversible. They have no lasting effect once stopped. They’re also given to young children with precocious puberty.
If your kid consistently, persistently and insistently claims to be the non-bio sex, is depressed and suicidal as the biological sex, and a happy, normal kid as the non-bio sex, what’s the harm in letting them socially transition? If they grow out of it, they can detransition. Irreversible changes don’t occur until the kid is well into their teens.
There are plenty of trans people out there who transitioned at an early age and are happy, normal adults, who pass 100% because they never developed secondary sex characteristics of the bio sex. Society mocks trans people who don’t pass yet also derides parents who want to help their children not be the target of abuse.
Irreversible HRT isn’t given out willy-nilly - doctors don’t want to expose themselves to lawsuits, for one thing. It generally follows years of social transitioning and multiple assessments from psychologists.
Wow, convenient anecdote. Be that as it may, there’s plenty of evidence linking superior long-term outcomes with allowing children with gender dysphoria to live as the opposite sex. If the kid grows out of it, they can always detransition.
In any case, this is an /r/transgender issue, not a mensrights one.
How do we know the father isn’t against trans people?
A few things stick out to me:
Mention of “chemically castrated” at age 8. That’s not what happens - the only treatment available at that age is fully reversible puberty blockers. The irreversible changes are caused by hormone replacement therapy, which generally isn’t started until the child is well into their teens.
If he’s misleading readers about that, how truthful is he?
Medical professionals don’t diagnose and treat gender dysphoria lightly. It’s unlikely that a team of medical professionals would treat the kid as trans if the evidence were so flimsy.
Exhortations for readers to pray - conservative Christians (and people of other faiths) are often against transgender people full stop.
There’s no evidence the child isn’t pressured to dress/act like a boy when in the father’s care. If you think your dad hates you for dressing like a girl, you’re probably going to dress like a boy.
It’s impossible to say with accuracy what’s going on here, but given the above, I wouldn’t be surprised if the story’s being distorted.
Did the author Walt Heyer, who is an advocate of detrantisiton and transition 'regret'... actually read the court document he linked? It doesn't mesh at all with his story or the title here.
Luna
Specifically, James is a gender expansive or transgender child and, by choice, now goes by the name Luna and is only known by her classmates as a girl. In the Order, the Petitioner/Mother was given the exclusive right, after notifying the Father, to consent to psychiatric and psychological treatment of the children. The Mother sought proper psychological treatment for the child and kept the Father fully informed.
In response to Luna's choices, the Father has engaged in increasingly aggressive behavior, including physical force, toward the Mother. His actions are clearly intended to threaten and intimidate the Mother. Further, the Father has engaged in emotionally abusive behavior toward the child (as example only, haircutting and other non-affiming actions), Although unclear if this behavior rises to the level of family violence at this time, the Father's aggression is becoming more common and more intense.
And Walt's belief that Luna is not trans is based solely on the word of the father, a pastor, and some random 'family friend'. Nothing at all about what Luna says, not that Walt should be allowed within 10 feet of a trans child, tbh.
So we have someone who advocates for 'transition regret' making up a story that doesn't at all mesh with the legal documents he himself provided.
So this is just another transphobe using the story of someone else that they cherry-pick for their politcal goals. If you read his .pdf about 'Saving James(Luna)' he literally just talks about advocating against sex changes in general and refers to them as 'sexual mutilations'.
Gypsy Rose Blanchard grew up not knowing much about the world outside of doctors’ offices, hospital rooms and the pink house in Missouri where she lived with her mom, Clauddinnea “Dee Dee” Blanchard.
By the time she was 8 years old, Gypsy Blanchard was allegedly suffering from leukemia, muscular dystrophy, vision and hearing impairments and seizures. Gypsy also used a wheelchair to get around and a feeding tube for nutrition and medicine.
I wonder if there's a way the BF can get out of prison for killing the monster.
Mother’s filing: the child is trangender; the father doesn’t want To accept a transgender child. The kid was known as Luna, a girl, at school. The father cut the child’s hair, referred to the child as James and used male pronouns, which caused the child distress.
The alternate view is that the mother convinced the child to be transgender, and the father is going along with what the child wants.
It’s not for us, internet randoms, to decide if the child really is transgender based on a biased account from one parent. It’s for the courts and the child’s doctors. The matter should never have been put online.
To me the fact that he agrees with whichever parent he’s in the presence of currently seems to suggest that he’s eager to please them and do as they say- perfectly normal for his age. It’s difficult to sort out what exactly the child wants or believes. With such ambiguity, to me the best option is to follow statistics- most people born boys stay boys, and there’s zero harm in NOT operating. If, as he ages, his feelings become clearer and it turns out he does have gender dysphoria, then I’d be all for a transition. As it stands, however, this is a young child mixed up in a very complex and harmful relationship, and he needs to be removed from the conflict.
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I’d agree if there were objective evidence backing the “I wanted a girl” syndrome, but it’s just one person’s account, backed up by his pastor and a friend (not unbiased sources). We only have one side of the story. For all we know, the child does want to be a girl and the dad is horrified at the thought and wants to suppress it.
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Puberty blockers are reversible. They have no lasting effect once stopped. They’re also given to young children with precocious puberty.
If your kid consistently, persistently and insistently claims to be the non-bio sex, is depressed and suicidal as the biological sex, and a happy, normal kid as the non-bio sex, what’s the harm in letting them socially transition? If they grow out of it, they can detransition. Irreversible changes don’t occur until the kid is well into their teens.
There are plenty of trans people out there who transitioned at an early age and are happy, normal adults, who pass 100% because they never developed secondary sex characteristics of the bio sex. Society mocks trans people who don’t pass yet also derides parents who want to help their children not be the target of abuse.
Irreversible HRT isn’t given out willy-nilly - doctors don’t want to expose themselves to lawsuits, for one thing. It generally follows years of social transitioning and multiple assessments from psychologists.
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Wow, convenient anecdote. Be that as it may, there’s plenty of evidence linking superior long-term outcomes with allowing children with gender dysphoria to live as the opposite sex. If the kid grows out of it, they can always detransition.
In any case, this is an /r/transgender issue, not a mensrights one.
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How do we know the father isn’t against trans people?
A few things stick out to me:
If he’s misleading readers about that, how truthful is he?
Medical professionals don’t diagnose and treat gender dysphoria lightly. It’s unlikely that a team of medical professionals would treat the kid as trans if the evidence were so flimsy.
Exhortations for readers to pray - conservative Christians (and people of other faiths) are often against transgender people full stop.
There’s no evidence the child isn’t pressured to dress/act like a boy when in the father’s care. If you think your dad hates you for dressing like a girl, you’re probably going to dress like a boy.
It’s impossible to say with accuracy what’s going on here, but given the above, I wouldn’t be surprised if the story’s being distorted.
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A doctor shouldn't be delaying anyone's puberty ever. Only a mentally-ill ideologue would argue otherwise.
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Medicine isn't mediated by open-mindedness, fascist, but by empirically observable fact.
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It’s on the “Save James” website too.
“He is undergoing “social transitioning” therapy to prepare him for chemical castration at age 8”
“The court is requiring Jeff to pay for transgender therapy and the future sexual mutilation of his son”
All I’m saying is we need both sides of the story before rushing to conclusions. This could easily be a father not wanting his kid to be transgender.
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I’ll post someone’s response on /r/transgender
Did the author Walt Heyer, who is an advocate of detrantisiton and transition 'regret'... actually read the court document he linked? It doesn't mesh at all with his story or the title here.
In response to Luna's choices, the Father has engaged in increasingly aggressive behavior, including physical force, toward the Mother. His actions are clearly intended to threaten and intimidate the Mother. Further, the Father has engaged in emotionally abusive behavior toward the child (as example only, haircutting and other non-affiming actions), Although unclear if this behavior rises to the level of family violence at this time, the Father's aggression is becoming more common and more intense.
And Walt's belief that Luna is not trans is based solely on the word of the father, a pastor, and some random 'family friend'. Nothing at all about what Luna says, not that Walt should be allowed within 10 feet of a trans child, tbh.
So we have someone who advocates for 'transition regret' making up a story that doesn't at all mesh with the legal documents he himself provided.
So this is just another transphobe using the story of someone else that they cherry-pick for their politcal goals. If you read his .pdf about 'Saving James(Luna)' he literally just talks about advocating against sex changes in general and refers to them as 'sexual mutilations'.
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What the everloving fuck is going on here....
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The mother is seeking revenge on her man by mutilating her child.
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Why isn't the child being protected from the mother? I don't understand why the court is backing her
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They have an agenda. I'm discussing with others about the possibility where the father & son can go to a embassy to see refugee status.
The current popular pick is the Italian embassy.
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https://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/dallas/article188865169.html
Some women need to be medically experimented on unfortunately
https://parentingisnteasy.co/daughter-mother-scam/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/young-wheelchair-bound-woman-treated-illnesses-ended-prison/story?id=52138979
Gypsy Rose Blanchard grew up not knowing much about the world outside of doctors’ offices, hospital rooms and the pink house in Missouri where she lived with her mom, Clauddinnea “Dee Dee” Blanchard.
By the time she was 8 years old, Gypsy Blanchard was allegedly suffering from leukemia, muscular dystrophy, vision and hearing impairments and seizures. Gypsy also used a wheelchair to get around and a feeding tube for nutrition and medicine.
I wonder if there's a way the BF can get out of prison for killing the monster.
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https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/001555.htm
They're two examples of a form of child abuse that this woman who wants to castrate her son has.
Either she's doing it to harm the father, or she's doing it for attention. Take your pick because the little boy wants to be a little boy.
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/u/geniice is right
Mother’s filing: the child is trangender; the father doesn’t want To accept a transgender child. The kid was known as Luna, a girl, at school. The father cut the child’s hair, referred to the child as James and used male pronouns, which caused the child distress.
The alternate view is that the mother convinced the child to be transgender, and the father is going along with what the child wants.
It’s not for us, internet randoms, to decide if the child really is transgender based on a biased account from one parent. It’s for the courts and the child’s doctors. The matter should never have been put online.
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The courts and doctors work with the child to come up with a ruling that’s in the child’s best interests.
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Same reason why a clump of cells magically turn into a baby, and then a baby back into a clump of cells.
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To me the fact that he agrees with whichever parent he’s in the presence of currently seems to suggest that he’s eager to please them and do as they say- perfectly normal for his age. It’s difficult to sort out what exactly the child wants or believes. With such ambiguity, to me the best option is to follow statistics- most people born boys stay boys, and there’s zero harm in NOT operating. If, as he ages, his feelings become clearer and it turns out he does have gender dysphoria, then I’d be all for a transition. As it stands, however, this is a young child mixed up in a very complex and harmful relationship, and he needs to be removed from the conflict.
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