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Media spout off sexist abuse of men over male contraceptive pill. Then double-down after backlash: "That Male Birth Control Story? Women Are Laughing Because We're So Fed Up"

FindMeTheTruth

November 2, 2016
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/r/MensRights
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Title Media spout off sexist abuse of men over male contraceptive pill. Then double-down after backlash: "That Male Birth Control Story? Women Are Laughing Because We're So Fed Up"
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FindMeTheTruth

Upvotes 319
Comments 63
Date November 2, 2016 1:34 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5apw4v/media_spout_off_sexist_abuse_of_men_over_male/
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https://theredarchive.com/post/938417
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[–]Hitleresque 88 points89 points90 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"who cares, don't be a pussy"

Welcome to manhood

[–]bravado 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That sounds a lot like.... toxic masculinity to me

[–]TheDongerNeedsFood 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My fiancé is the exact same way. We're coming up on our mid-30's and she's been on the pill for almost a decade, so her doctor is likely going to take her off it within the next few years. We were talking about it and she mentioned the myriad benefits she gets from it that have nothing to do with sex.

[–]Numericaly7 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wasn't the whole argument for Obamacare covering it was that many women actually need BC for health and wellness reasons? Is this author forgetting that whole demo of women who don't take it for sex related reasons at all?

[–]VicisSubsisto 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Close - that was the argument against religious exemptions.

Is this author forgetting that whole demo of women who don't take it for sex related reasons at all?

Yes... "forgetting".

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[–]xtremeradness 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, you're not wrong, but they did leave out any positives of birth control.

[–][deleted] 83 points84 points85 points 9 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

I bet sooner or later they will claim male birth control is a rape enabler or something like that.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

They will say that it hurts women because now men won't use condoms so women will be at risk for STDs

[–]Lonelythrowawaysnug 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've heard feminists say it "takes empowerment away from women." Or maybe it was "power" instead of "empowerment" idr.

[–]Rasalom72 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wait a second... don't they claim that when one group loses out on a power that they've always had, they push back against it and see it as an attack?

Women have always had the power to control reproduction.. so now that men have it as well, shouldn't they be happy that this "gender imbalance" has been (or will be) corrected? NAW... fucking whacky feminists.

[–]Lonelythrowawaysnug 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I will say most feminists I've spoken to don't see it as a bad thing, but the people steering the ship do.

[–]lidsville76 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I can see that as a viable claim. Stupid men, like stupid women, will think they are protected from themselves when they are on birth control, and go around without using protection.

But, it is ultimately up to both parties to use protection, no matter who has birth control.

[–]originalSpacePirate 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And honestly i've read far too many stories of women claiming their on BC and lying just to get pregnant to get on that child support dollar. Even if you're using male BC, wrap that shit up.

[–]lidsville76 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, yes, 10000 times yes.

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[–]iongantas 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I really can't wait until we can take childbirth away from women. Then they won't have a thing to stand on but reason, facts and actual work.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I really can't wait until we can take childbirth away from women.

Glorious Tleilaxu!

[–]iongantas 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except they didn't really. :-/

[–]rockidol 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The amount of feminists who rail against pornography really isn't all that high.

Oh sure you'll find some feminists who are against specific types of porn or don't like it when porn portrays women a certain way, but if you're talking feminists who just blanketly dislike all porn and think it needs to be stopped, they're very few and far between.

[–]Halafax 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not difficult to find them online. Certainly not hard to find them based on their literature that is still used in gender studies courses.

There seems to be a sharp divide between sex negative and sex positive feminists, but I don't see either "side" consistently in control. Rather, I see two different groups that pull together under any significant resistance despite their differences.

[–]fengpi 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The anti-porn feminists were laughably stupid. I miss them.

The not-so-anti-porn feminists, on the other hand, simply like porn because some women get-off from it, and that legitimizes the existence of porn, because men liking porn does not legitimize its existence at all.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The amount of feminists who rail against pornography really isn't all that high.

What rock have you been living under?

[–]jaheiner 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, more men will rape women if they don't have to worry about getting them pregnant!

I'd like to look at this and say that it's such an absurd statement that there is no way any reasonable person could think it up...but...we have seen some of the other stupid shit these people spout off so yeah...

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it is something FOR men, so its anti woman

REEEEEE

[–]iongantas 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Much in the way religious zealots claim birth control is a slut enabler. Hmmm...

[–]GilfalasOrcbane[🍰] 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

What I find ridiculous is that they claim "a few minor side-effects" made them stop the study. Since when do a few minor side-effects discourage pharmaceutical companies? A look at any average, run off the mill, medication proves that this is bullshit. Regardless of gender.

Either the side-effects were very serious or the company realized their product wouldn't be competitive against what others have in development...

[–]Ragnrok 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Either the side-effects were very serious or the company realized their product wouldn't be competitive against what others have in development...

Neither. They determined they got enough data from the study and it wasn't worth it to continue, so they ended this round of tests to look at the drug and try to enhance it.

[–]GilfalasOrcbane[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thanks!

[+][deleted] 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]GilfalasOrcbane[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's some scary stuff! How can anybody make fun of this?

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[–]Ragnrok 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I saw it.

And now I'm really excited to one day take a drug that will both keep me from getting people pregnant and help my gains at the gym.

[–]AirDevil 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I actually read the study's paper about the trial. Of the ~300 participants, there were a 8 severe reactions, and many more with less severe issues. Muscle soreness, injection site pain, and changes in libido were the most commonly adverse effects (AE) directly associated to the trial. Most participants reported 1 or more AEs... Despite that, over 75% said they were willing to continue if this became available.

It is a good start, but has some pretty common issues. Hope to see improvements made to this in the future

[–]Atkailash 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I pointed that out to a friend who criticized ot. Despite that 75% still would do it. Hardly a case of them not sucking it up. Also pointed out how long it took to be effective, and how long it took to recover (over a year for some, one didn't 4 years later and they stopped checking). With females it's an immediate recovery except in rare circumstances.

[–]FastFourierTerraform 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Whooo weeee, Rick, that's a lot to unpack!

Does this woman not realize that there are about 10 different types of birth control she's free to use? If one options fucks your shit up, use something else. Maybe that's why, according to our author, men don't know anything about birth control-- because we only have one option.

This is like the equivalent of a man in the 1800's saying it's bullshit that one of the 15 occupations available to him is a coal miner, which he doesn't personally want. Lol, women are such whiners, once a group of 20 women were taken down to the mine for a day and 2 of them left! As for myself, I'm a shop manager, but those women who are chained to the stove are such idiots for not being able to handle coal mining. They don't even know the first thing about mining coal or managing shops! Men have been mining coal for 5,000 years!

And then, just because why not, she concludes that it's actually women, not men, who are treated as the disposable gender. OK, then.

And as a kicker, I have known many women, including my sister, who were prescribed birth control years before they were sexually active because of the positive benefits of it. Pregnancy isn't even a concern there. The litmus test is literally, 'is my life better while taking this, or is it worse?' Seeing as a bunch of them stay on it, I think the results speak for themselves.

[–]atli123 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks Mr. Poopy Butthole. I always could count on you.

[–]fengpi 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does this woman not realize that there are about 10 different types of birth control she's free to use?

No, she's burdened by the plethora of available options. Men don't have to agonize over all those choices, do they? Lucky bastards.

[–]satisfyinghump 40 points41 points42 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh okay, well when we laugh that's our goto as well.

And in general, a male contraceptive option that puts birth control into the men's control fully, is something women are horrified about. They are used to having the control when it comes to birth control and now they won't be able to even poke holes in the condom or lie that they are on the pill, since it won't matter, as long as the man is on the pill himself.

Let them laugh. They'll cry last.

[–]xNOM 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

is something women are horrified about

I... don't think all women are horrified about it. Just the ones perhaps who currently want children.

[–]TheDongerNeedsFood 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And again, I have yet to see women claim that they are in any way forced to take the birth control pill.

[–]Lumberingfeather 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OK ladies, let's ban the pill. No more side-effects, no more "burden" to bear.

Happy?

[–]Joy_blazefighter 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

As a women who is unusually susceptible to the harsh side effects of birth control, I hope men get their own soon. Plus guys get tricked into having a kid when a women lies about being on birth control. Men having their own pill would help everyone.

[–]McGauth925 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Except for the women who purposefully get pregnant, pretending that the birth control failed.

[–]Joy_blazefighter 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good, women who lie and get pregnant on purpose against the will of the father are terribly selfish people.

[–]Havikz 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I saw this topic trending on facebook, I got so angry just scrolling through the articles and individual posts. I rarely saw anyone saying that it's awesome that men have more options now, it was more "Men get birth control and don't like the side effects, those poor babies know what we women have to put up with every day :)" or "Finally I get to stop taking my birth control and if something happens people won't blame me"

There were even people saying things like "Thank god men have to go through the burden and responsibility of taking birth control now, it was so unfair that they could just use a condom and we had to take the brunt of the side effects"

[–]Bisexual-Bop-It 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't understand backlash against more birth control options (other than obviously the fact that a experimental and new contraceptive could cause bad side affects). But on a serious note that is revolutionary for sex. You can have two forms of birth control easily without a physical barrier. That sounds amazing and super easy. Plus if you do want to hook up , as a man, you can go into it with your form of birth control without having to fumble around with a condom that has been stored in you wallet (not safe at all)

[–]McGauth925 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would've loved a good, safe method...before I got my vasectomy. I read about a Bionix valve back in college that was a micro-gate in the vas deferens that prevented sperm from leaving a man's body. No harmful side effects. Not long ago, I read about the same sort of thing. But, I've never seen it perfected and made available.

Women face DIRECT, LIFE CHANGING CONSEQUENCES that are far greater than what men face. And, I've read that pregnancy is more harmful to women than the side effects of the pill. Thus, while women are enjoying sticking it to men about side effects, the pluses and minuses for men and women are very different. So, sticking it to men is women being assholes, all the while pretending it's men who are assholes.

Plus, it's men who bear the brunt of condoms, which I've read are the most common form of birth control. And, I wonder how many couples count on the man's vasectomy vs. the woman's tubal ligation. Again, women are being assholes in maintaining that they must do all the work of preventing pregnancy.

Men get the credit for chauvinism but, sorry, women are much more chauvinist. They call it sisterhood, and encourage it in each other at every opportunity.

From Meriam's " undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged"

[–]WillowCrystalWater 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd kinda love a male birth control. Makes me sicker than a dog if I take it, would be nice to not have to use condoms constantly with my hubbie.

[–]Proteus_Marius 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are laughing because we are fed up and angry that double standards continue to define our lives.

Fed up and angry people don't tend to turn to collective laughter to express such negative feelings.

Perhaps there are other factors leading to this collective laughter from feminists?

[–]factsmakeyoumad 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Treat me like an EQUAL!! Treat me like and EQUAL!! The power of secret birth control decisions shall remain with women alone! This isn't an obvious man-hater double standard position to take, Shytlorde`!! /s

[–]fengpi 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's right, fed-up! Fed-up with the misogynist, patriarchal medical establishment inventing all those birth-control options!

And women, stoic and saintly, quietly power-through all that infinity-level suffering with silence and grim, tough resignation and no complaining. As they always do...

[–]kutuup1989 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What in the shit even is that site?

I've heard of it, but never actually read it.

....Seems shitty.

[–]lenin1928 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the Huffington Post what would you expect?

[–]Lonelythrowawaysnug 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hug of death?

[–]TaylorBeauvais 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been following this study and it really makes me angry. Depression to the point of suicide, risk of infertility after taking the drug, and a 25% drop out rate (started with over 300 finished with just above 200) are not minor hiccups in a study, they're critical issues.

[–]IchthysdeKilt 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The screenshot they used is from a Cracked.com video that's a parody/satire of birth control commercials.

[–]FruitierGnome 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fed up with having the easiest exsistence in all of human history? Or fed up with men being sick of loveless marriages where they are lucky if they get a birthday handy?

[–]Mallago 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ridiculous hypocrisy and entitlement from the feminist side, as usual.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fed up about what? Fed up over having special treatment?

[–]SacredWeapon 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Within one sentence of this article, they clarify that they STILL haven't read the study.

[–]guntermench43 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So when I laugh at women they shouldn't get upset? I'll keep that in mind.

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