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The hateful Roanoke College students who tried to keep a student out of college after he was found not guilty of rape

PierceHarlan

January 20, 2016
867 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.cotwa.info/2016/01/the-hateful-roanoke-college-students.html
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Title The hateful Roanoke College students who tried to keep a student out of college after he was found not guilty of rape
Author

PierceHarlan

Upvotes 867
Comments 88
Date January 20, 2016 1:48 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/41uej2/the_hateful_roanoke_college_students_who_tried_to/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/the-hateful-roanoke-college-students-who-tried-to.958120
https://theredarchive.com/post/958120
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Comments

[–]bigbronze 195 points196 points197 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"Believe the victim until evidence proved otherwise"

He's found innocent

Protest anyway because we think he is guilty.

-sheeple

[–]Keiichi81 83 points84 points85 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're never really innocent of rape after you've been accused. You just "got away with it" and "the system failed".

[–]jb_trp 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"If we use proof in rape cases, we fall into the patterns of rape deniers." -Emma Sulkowicz

Don't you know the feelings of a woman is far more important than any evidence of innocence?? /s

[–]chasmaniandevil 94 points95 points96 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd sue the person who started that campaign. Public slander and defamation of character.

[–]Unenjoyed 76 points77 points78 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Where does it stop?

Dunno, but hauling around a "mattress" and threatening journalists might be the next step.

[–]mattatinternet 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Did she threaten a journalist?

[–]redgreenyellowblu 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She threatened a journalist with suing the publication if the publication printed any statements from the accused. That might be what OP is referring to.

[–]nuesuh 66 points67 points68 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

2014: Innocent until proven guilty

2015: Guilty until proven innocent

2016: HE'S FUCKING GUILTY

2017: ???

[–]captain_craptain 25 points26 points27 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

2017: KILL THE WITCH!!!!!

[–]garglemesh42 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

BUT I'M NOT MADE OF WOOD!

[–]captain_craptain 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

2018: IT'S A MAN, BURN HIM ANYWAYS!!! BUT NOT IF ITS A TRANS MAN... THEY'RE OUR SECRET AGENTS

[–]FrigOffCyrus 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

XE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

XE

Lel. I c wat u did thar.

[–]shatter321 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

2019: BURN THE TRANS MAN TRAITORS!!!

[–]parkowork 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

#Yesallmen

[–]Paterfix 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

2018: profit

[–]nuesuh 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One can hope, but i'm doubtful : /

[–]blueoak9 116 points117 points118 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

"Some 291 students signed the petition."

Well this should help in identifying which ones to suspend. If the students who signed this petition have no regard for this foreign student's rights, why should anyone respect theirs?

[–]tab1901 37 points38 points39 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

For Roanoke, that's a large portion of the university. They only have a couple thousand students who go to the university. Let's see how it plays out.

[–]blueoak9 25 points26 points27 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Only a thousand? That means a purge like this would really raise awareness.

[–]tab1901 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

2060 people in 2012. 13% is definitely significant

[–]blueoak9 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Couple thousand, yes. Sorry.

[–]Heil_Gaben 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do it a la medieval. hang suspend every fifth

[–]Electroverted 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If this was a public petition, I hope someone posts the names.

[–]blaireau69 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope the names of the 291 scumbags get published, they deserve to be kicked out of college for creating a hostile working/studying environment.

[–]BITCRUSHERRRR 40 points41 points42 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Wait what the fuck? I am literally going there in two years and I live right near it and i haven't heard of this.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Well at least now you know and can take the appropriate precautions.

[–]BITCRUSHERRRR 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Got it, I'll cut off my hands, dick, tongue, and my eyes in case they are the type to think visual rape is a thing.

[–]Savor_The_Flavor 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not near extreme enough. Next step is maybe thinking about switching schools, if possible.

[–]Clockw0rk 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Just for a sex change. It's probably easier in the long run.

[–]Relltensai 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

BUT THEN HE'D GET RAPED D:

[–]Clockw0rk 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I hear that's a lovely start to a victimbux career.

[–]ziekktx 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody with any self worth actually cashes those in. They were supposed to be a joke, but people are going with it.

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[–]PierceHarlan[S] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. You'd think he's Jack the Ripper if you listen to these feminists.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Some 291 students signed the petition."

It's interesting that if one student was harassing him and making his life miserable, the school would expel that person...But if almost 300 students participate in the harassment, then it's a "petition".

I'm of the opinion that every signature on that petition is a written admission of their violating the schools anti harassment policies.

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[–]captain_craptain 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I imagine it could fuck up his case. It could look like he is IDing them to coerce them into settling out of court etc.

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[–]captain_craptain 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I don't think that is a requirement, as seen here, since she is not named.

Probably also to avoid the inevitable shit storm that would occur from TumblrWarriors saying he was naming her publicly to pressure her and coerce her etc etc blah...blah...barf....

[–]RobotJiz 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder if he can sue for defamation since he wasn't guilty of a crime yet they are blasting him publicly as a rapist?

[–]captain_craptain 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is what he is suing her for.

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[–]captain_craptain 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you an attorney?

[–]gaelorian 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes but not familiar with Virginia laws

[–]captain_craptain 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, okay, yeah well you'd know way better than me.

[–]user1492 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can sue a Jane Doe.

[–]TheDude41 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Despicable.

[–]Ovendice 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

We live in an upside down world. Why? Because most men don't even care about their own rights. This wouldn't be happening if even HALF of men refused to tolerate this insanity, organized and sued the living shit out of our government for these COUNTLESS violations of basic HUMAN RIGHTS of men.

Men now can't even live their lives normally, go to school, work, go outside, talk to women or do or say anything without being constantly, constantly harassed by these horrendous women and this atmosphere of hate and upside down laws under this sick, perverse liberal administration from Hell that helped to instigate all of this. Unable to do ANYTHING without being in absolute constant fear of being falsely accused of one of the most heinous crimes and your life essentially ended and scarlet lettered with a stigma that is worse than DEATH.

The people who are 'unsafe' on any college campus are MEN. Virtually any female today is capable of making a false accusation of rape because the laws have been so perverted and the definitions so expanded and the 'consent' laws so vague and ambiguous (that's intentional out of sheer seething hatred of men) that just about any female now doesn't even think she's making a false accusation when she does!

And most women are so insane and so controlled by their emotions anyway with absolutely ALIEN ideas about EVERYTHING with whacked out, lunatic psycho thinking making the act of just simply being around women at all now extremely dangerous.

[–]thatlowdowndirty47 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're going to be waiting quite some time waiting for men to mobilizing around their victimization.

[–]vash721 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

2014 Innocent until proven innocent.

[–]perfidius 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

As everyone knows, the worst kind of rapist is the kind that is found not guilty of rape.

/s

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I may be late to the party on this one, by why won't COTWA name the accuser when they make such a big deal out of the accuser not being named (mentioning it several times) even though they can get the info themselves easily?

[–]mattatinternet 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

As far as I know, though I'm neither an American nor a lawyer, even though the fellow has been found innocent, the accuser's anonymity is still protected by law. They cannot publish the accuser's name without being in contempt of court. In addition the accuser may be able to sue them.

I say again, I'm neither an American nor a lawyer. This is purely speculation on my part.

Edit: Added apostrophes.

[–]user1492 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The UK protects an accusers anonymity in rape cases, but that is generally not the law in the U.S. There are Supreme Court cases that suggest naming an accuser is actually protected under the First Amendment, and I would agree.

[–]daveofmars 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank God I moved out of Virginia. The state's colleges, like this one and UVA, are filling up with the spoiled PC brats of Washington D.C.'s yuppie suburbanites.

[–]TheNinjaSasquatch 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah... I goto college in Virginia and I'm from fucking botetourt.

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[–]definitelyjoking 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That may be a bit of an overreaction.

[–]FeierInMeinHose 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You do realize that all the sciences and math are part of the school of Liberal Arts, right? If you shut down those schools then you shut down any pathway to other schools, as well.

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[–]FeierInMeinHose 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Depending on the university/college the hard sciences can either be in the engineering school or the liberal arts school, so no the courses wouldn't necessarily be different.

[–]razezero1 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey now, liberal arts, like theatre and music are an incredibly important part of an education, what you want to shut down is the gender studies bullshit.

[–]FRedington 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]tmh2duggy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That kid needs Cliff Hutchinson Attorney at Law on his case

[+]splitfires -12 points-11 points-10 points 10 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

question - how are we to know whether the guy is innocent or guilty? it's seems naive to me for anyone among us to believe they know what happened between those two. all this crucifying language being thrown back and forth, yet who can honestly say they know a damn thing about the circumstances discussed in this article?

[–]G_H_Saturn 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It wasn't us who found him not fucking guilty.

[+]splitfires -13 points-12 points-11 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

true, but personally i don't just trust every word that has a governmental stamp of approval on it, if you know what i mean. i mean how are you to know if the shitheads are on the petitioner's side or on the court/police's side? or both?

[–]mechesh 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the "25 minute" not guilty verdict is kinda telling. The jury didn't even have to think about it.

[–]mattatinternet -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair that just means they felt there was no evidence. It doesn't mean that he didn't rape her, just that there is a reasonable doubt (for good reason i.e. lack of evidence) in their minds. I personally am inclined to trust a jury's decision. They see evidence that no-one else does (I think).

I suspect that the prosecutor that brought this case got a good kicking (metaphorically speaking) from their superior(s).

[–]G_H_Saturn 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's as veritable as it gets in our circumstance. See, the bigger issue is that, while the petitioner's side has legal countermeasures and whatever appeals procedures are out there, this particular crowd of students is taking justice into their own hands. It's not definitive of the case, but, even if they're right about the rape, that's a definitive shithead thing to do.

[–]splitfires 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

y'know... that makes sense. agreed. i might not be ready to call their actions hateful, but i can see how that would be ignorant/inconsiderate at the least. shouldn't attempt to inflict certain detriment on someone for things you assume they did yet aren't certain about.

[–]WilliamEDodd 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Isn't that kind of the point? 291 people said he should be kicked out when no one knows and a jury found him innocent. Why are people trying to keep out a student for a he said she said. She invited him to her room. You don't need to go to a room to talk.

[+]splitfires -9 points-8 points-7 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

well i mean my bigger point here is that we readers of the article don't know - and it's pretty obvious that the author doesn't either. i'm sure a good portion of those students are acting/speaking without proper knowledge either, but a rape accusation - in terms of the implied level of violence - is tantamount to bodily assault; so i wouldn't expect the case to go down easily as some 'live and let live' matter. we know that both the courts/police and crowd mentalities can house a lot of bullshit though, and i think everybody here is acting like they know more than they do. of course i would feel bad if that guy was innocent and being slandered like this, but i'd also feel bad if that girl was actually raped and the court cleared the guy so quickly because they just didn't give a shit.

[–]mattatinternet 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

and the court cleared the guy so quickly because they just didn't give a shit.

I'm inclined to trust the jury. I agree that we can't know what happened, but the likely reason that the jury found the guy innocent so quickly is because the prosecution brought no substantial evidence to the table. Their case seemingly hinged on people assuming that no-one would lie about such a horrific crime. Therefore there was reasonable doubt in the jury's minds.

Edit: Changed hindered to hinged.

[–]splitfires 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

i mean you have a good point there. if the prosecution couldn't bring forth any substantial evidence, then it would be entirely fair for the jury to end the case there. would somebody who was raped be able to bring forth real evidence, though?

[–]Lance_lake 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You miss the fact that the womans story changed in court from what she told police.

[–]splitfires 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

what changed?

[–]Lance_lake 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

what changed?

I don't know, but it says it did in the article.

[–]splitfires 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah well i mean that's an incredibly vague statement i don't know what that clarifies

[–]mattatinternet 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Well ideally yes, but it's not easy.

In any crime, the best evidence would be a video and/or audio recording. In rape, if you have neither then the next best evidence would be vaginal or anal tearing (and not a little tearing, but a lot), a semen sample (assuming the rapist is male and didn't use a condom) and injuries to the victim. Without these it basically comes down to he said/she said, he said/he said or she said/she said. And you can't convict a person solely on the word of another.

Disclaimer: As I mentioned elsewhere, I am not a lawyer (or a solicitor if you're British). Nor am I a forensic scientist or a doctor.

[–]WilliamEDodd 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see this more of an issue with the current definition of rape. It's obvious it was not violent or forced rape as there was no mention of violence, bruises, or such. If this is just the basis of the girl was not into it and it went farther then she had planned then it's different. With saying that even if it was the second way I don't see that as a reason to just kick this kid out of school. People make mistakes or let things happen that would not normally of happened.

[–]splitfires 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah i mean i think if that was the case then i'd agree

[–]PierceHarlan[S] 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I point out in the post that only the parties know for certain what happened. You seem to miss the point of the post: it is unfair to convict a presumptively innocent man in the court of public opinion and in the process deny him the right to an education--that's the problem this post addressed, the rush to judgment that has hurt so many wrongly accused men.

When someone is accused of a serious crime, he is presumed innocent--and that can't be just a hollow mantra, it is something Americans have long believed in. Beyond that, in this particular case, the young man was charged and tried--a jury was empaneled and heard the evidence--and it determined he was not guilty. Then, the school, using the preponderance of the evidence standard, held its own hearing and did not find him responsible.

The young man is suing the accuser, and based on what we've seen so far, there's a real chance he could prevail and obtain significant damages from her.

[–]garglemesh42 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. You're doing great work. I just wish we could get the MSM to listen to you.

[–]splitfires -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah no i agree with you on that - don't do something that serves as such a detriment to him when you personally don't know whether or not he is guilty. however, 1) in the case of severe crimes, though the court will deem an individual innocent until proven guilty, measures are still taken in the meantime to protect the rest of the community from a potential threat to its safety 2) another key aspect of what's meant to make the united states a just society is that the people are given the freedom to challenge decisions made by institutions of authority. i'm simply trying to bring some points to the table here.

[–]Cardplay3r 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Youll never know for sure but do you want every girl or woman to have the power to fuck someone's life up on a whim?

[–]splitfires 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not at all!

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