So many redpill men constantly say this about western women

Fine-Equivalent-6398 · 2025-02-16T19:03:59+00:00

Middle eastern woman here. And I think that it's mainly characteristics of many men. They want all the rights, and 0 responsibility

DisastrousActivity13 · 2025-02-16T16:34:04+00:00

It is all bullshit, and I say this as a man. There is no way that a generalisation of hundreds of millions of women like theirs is true. We are all individuals at the end of the day and humans are far too complex to fall into such stereotypes. The red pill people are also constantly shifting the goal posts to keep their ideology intact.

Dingus1210 · 2025-02-16T20:20:32+00:00

Every girlfriend I’ve had and most women I meet are super driven and way less lazy than all my male friends. I think the women that these redpillers are talking about are strippers/OF girls. Which are a very small percentage of women. And also at the end of the day, most likely still aren’t lazy and are responsible about their own lives. Redpillers basically see women as a different species of humans. They literally dehumanize women and treat them as if they’re pets that you have sex with.

Rad1Red · 2025-02-16T16:56:13+00:00

Damn right I want the authority of men. The rest, no.

GoAskAli · 2025-02-16T15:55:03+00:00

It's just demonstrably untrue. Red pill podcasts use very young, classically superficial "IG model" and "OF model" types and pretend they are representative of all women when the opposite is true.

You can look at women's achievement in literally every metric to see that it is women who- as a group- have their shit together. Meanwhile, young men are increasingly bitter, angry NEETS.

This phenomenon has increased literally in tandem with the proliferation of TRP content. It's been horrible for men and may well be in the process of practically destroying a generation of them. It's heartbreaking but more than that, it's terrifying.

oldcousingreg · 2025-02-16T13:32:47+00:00

Sounds like projection

bluehorserunning · 2025-02-16T18:29:03+00:00

Terps are grown men with the toddler’s concept of adulthood, that they should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want.

Girls are outperforming men in school. Young women are out performing men at work. They’re outearning men until they have kids, at which point their earnings crash because they’re the one taking responsibility for 90% of the child care even in most committed relationships. The reason they’re doing these things is because, at some point, boys and men decided that sitting still and doing your work at school was ‘feminine,’ and therefore worthless, and behaving well at work was ‘feminine,’ and therefore worthless. It’s not that they can’t do these things- they used to do it just fine, back when girls and women couldn’t- but as soon as girls were allowed into the school/work club, boys wanted out.

xvszero · 2025-02-16T17:48:27+00:00

I'd probably just call them an idiot. What other response is there?

Logseman · 2025-02-16T20:05:34+00:00

That it’s projection. An incel wants to be seen as hyper masculine while contributing fuck all to their relationships (sexual, romantic or any kind).

ThatOtherGuyTPM · 2025-02-16T13:51:22+00:00

I laugh, and then walk away.

Real_Bench2441 · 2025-02-16T14:43:52+00:00

Said by the ones who want a traditional virgin religious wife while they want to have sex with different women each week, when they call women who wants providers gold diggers

Azihayya · 2025-02-16T13:20:55+00:00

Major cap. Women have worked so hard for their independence, while men are stuck in the past living like babies. Women have their shit together and work hard because they know how things used to be. They realize the value of our institutions and of the free labor market. They do what they need to do to pay rent and they keep their places nice. Men, meanwhile, can't get over the power they used to have over women, and continue to pick up misogynist traits and behaviors from their fathers, brothers, friends and co-workers.

SilentAssassin2002 · 2025-02-16T22:28:04+00:00

I would also add to this, that these are most certainly Andrew Tate followers. This rhetoric comes from him, and 'men' like him.

The reason is truly because, in the 'west' (thanks to our foremothers) we had mass movements for the fight of women's rights women's liberation, and feminism as a result. This is the real reason. Men like this want women to be docile obedient quiet malleable and voiceless.

beigs · 2025-02-16T21:24:56+00:00

It’s projection to the highest degree

invisibletiara_99 · 2025-02-17T01:59:57+00:00

They’re just projecting, women just don’t want to be treated as a sub human.

SilentAssassin2002 · 2025-02-16T14:45:02+00:00

The authority of men. Yes. Women too want the power and privilege that has only been granted to men (by men) for so long, to the detriment of women who have been kept powerless and oppressed. Of course women want that. People want that.

What benefits are they speaking of? The benefits of experiencing 99% of sexual abuse and violence, being paid less in many industries, being paid nothing for raising children and homemaking, being paid less in all female dominated industries (nursing, childcare, aged care, teaching), baring the brunt of domesticity and child raring while also working, experiencing sexual assault in the workplace, being sexually objectified in basically every sector of society, continual sexual exploitation from Hollywood to fashion to the sex industry, being torn down and abused by men because we are not 'docile and obedient', having men decide in law what we can do with their own bodies, the list goes on and on.

Responsibilities and accountability of children? One could easily argue that that applies to many people regardless of gender. But in fact there is a lot of research that supports the opposite. As caregivers, socially, ethically, and even professionally many researchers suggest that women are more responsible in all of these areas .. which would also indicate that they are also more accountable. Also, research and statistics show that women are more empathetic and ethical which suggests the ability for better accountability.

Edit: but in most situations I wouldn't bother engaging, because this comment clearly shows ingrained misogyny, idiocy, ignorance and belligerence .. it is not the comment of an intelligent person capable of learning, active listening, or having the emotional maturity to be challenged on their ignorant prejudice.

Enough-Enthusiasm762 · 2025-02-16T21:25:58+00:00

It’s stupid. They’re restating a misogynistic claim, which is basically that femininity cannot come with power or rights.

It’s dumb to assume just cuz you want to be treated like a princess by your partner that you do not deserve equal rights. Does that mean sassy men who want to be treated and provided for by ladies do not deserve basic rights? Or what about partners who switch off? Do they trade off on their rights? 😂

CynthiaSonier · 2025-02-17T12:06:11+00:00

That description also fits red pill bros.

ThreeArmedYeti · 2025-02-16T14:57:35+00:00

A word:

Source?

saito200 · 2025-02-17T05:23:42+00:00

because they want to simplify the world into a world view that makes them feel better for not being half the human they think they should be, by saying "see, it is not my fault, it's these women"

it is reverse modern feminism with all its flaws

so they can live with their own flaws

it is a coping strategy

Kat_ri · 2025-02-17T15:06:29+00:00

Sounds like they're describing a trophy wife.

samof1994 · 2025-02-16T14:30:14+00:00

These guys are gross racial fetishists. Marrying a Filipina woman is obviously okay.... as long as you see her as a human being.

Personal_Dirt3089 · 2025-02-17T21:02:55+00:00

Seriously, avoid gender war crap, no matter which side it comes from.

Dry_Try635 · 2025-02-18T10:09:04+00:00

Why are we assigning gender to "freedom" and "responsibility " in the first place?

nofrickz · 2025-02-17T04:12:13+00:00

The maidenless mindset of man.

_PinkPeony_ · 2025-02-25T01:02:39+00:00

Exactly, there are literally studies about who does more work in the household while also working and contributing financially - it's women. These redpillers utilize emotion, opinions, lies, their narcissism, and delusions. They don't look into studies because the studies don't support their lies.

pridejoker · 2025-02-18T10:19:15+00:00

They want to be the only ones who have the RIGHT to be ignorant. Everyone else has to be practical.

_PinkPeony_ · 2025-02-16T19:42:10+00:00

That's such a brilliant distillation of what redpillers want.

rebrando23 · 2025-02-16T13:49:13+00:00

I think it’s quite hyperbolized. However, there is some grain of truth to the sentiment that on average women’s relative expectations for men haven’t adjusted downwards to reflect their newfound higher status in society. More women graduate college than men these days, yet the expectation that the male partner will make more money is still very prevalent.

Besides exaggerating it, the issue with the red pill’s take is that it tries to cast women as a monolith where 100% of them act the same way. Yes, there are plenty of women out there who think they’re god’s gift to humanity and deserve everything they want without any consequences when they mess up. But that’s a small percentage of them. There are plenty of down to earth women out there who will date a guy less successful than them, own up to their own mistakes, and share in decision making.

IamHereAndNow · 2025-02-16T19:18:09+00:00

That's true and I'm so happy that they are emancipated now. I don't need authority of women, fully enjoy responsibilities and accountability of children and let women have their benefits (but not at my expense). This makes me free and I fully enjoy and observe where this leads us...

However, women for some reason are not that happy with 50/50 proposition or the fact that I don't want to take lifelong responsibility for another grown up human being. Curious to find a likeminded person, may be we could become soulmates.

Title	So many redpill men constantly say this about western women
Author	Roguemaster43
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Date	February 16, 2025 1:07 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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