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[–]AyemHerselfFDS Disciple482 points483 points484 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Right? A man paying for my nudes is empowerment, but a man paying for my dinner is regressive? If he does the latter, he's entitled to get something from me? I'm starting to think these types of feminists really do see women as sex vending machines.
[–]redbirdfliesFDS STRATEGY COACH179 points180 points181 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“A man paying for my nudes is empowerment, but a man paying for my dinner is regressive”
This hits the nail on the head and makes it obvious that libfems are on the same side of the oppressive patriarchy that only views women as valuable if they are catering to the men
[–]yggiwtmiihFDS Newbie50 points51 points52 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whoop, there it is.
[–]yggiwtmiihFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should screen shot this and post it by itself, if you don't I would be happy to. This is perspective changing.
[–]chateauduchatFDS Newbie278 points279 points280 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I literally heard on the radio the other day that a man was proud that he walked up out in the middle of the dinner on a date in which the woman was checking out her only fans. Men are not afraid to walk away if things aren’t working, I wish women we raised with that sort of confidence as well.
[–]PasdepromessesFDS Disciple176 points177 points178 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Men don't accept any LV behavior from other men or women. They just expect us to put up with it.
[–]feminologie_FDS Apprentice145 points146 points147 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly! Men don't put up with cheating women nor do they stay in relationships they are not benefitting from. Men are ALWAYS concerned about whatever serves their own interests and that's why they always win.
[–]GainMental2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yep that's how we got to this pathetic point. Women need to de-brainwash themselves and start protecting their own interests
[–]OrangeyPandaFDS Apprentice164 points165 points166 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
And we don't even demand men pay for dates, we just choose not to date men that don't. Apparently that sets womens rights back more then dressing up as a child and getting pretend-raped on Onlyfans for money.
[–]berned-outFDS Newbie59 points60 points61 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The last SO I had checked a lot of boxes as far as being high value. One that he was insistent upon was paying for everything. I"m buying groceries, he pays. Cosmetics, clothing, car repairs, he paid. If I wanted it, he wanted me to have it.
Even before we dated, when we were just acquaintances, he paid for my tab if he was present, he paid for the weed, the beer, if he was present it was on his tab.
A great deal of his self esteem was based in being raised to pick up the tab, establish that your presence and company was all he wanted.
There are many men out there like this with their buddies and with dates. I personally am like this myself with myself and friends. It's a sign of being serious and conscientious about how you affect people, and how you wish to improve their experience with they are with you.
[–]umbralgardenFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Next step we need to raise our sons like this.
[–]goldiebabyFDS Newbie217 points218 points219 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Liberal Feminism:
Women can and should do it all! Get an education, pay bills, birth kids, raise kids, take care of the house, take care of your man, perform every sex act he desires or else you are a prude, don't get fat or ugly, take care of aging parents, change your own oil, take care of grandkids.
Also Liberal Feminism:
How dare you expect a man to make money and support a family! Your man held your baby for 5 min? Give him an award and a bl*w job.
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[–]BovvsetteFDS Disciple99 points100 points101 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's all about woman's choice unless she decides she doesn't want to be taken advantage of, being abused or pandering to the male gaze. Then she's a kink-shaming vanilla prude!
Apparently the choice to opt out participating in the depravity is not allowed. Respecting and loving yourself and womanhood through your actions and decisions is not feminist enough for libfems apparently, it needs more male pandering. We're not even advocating for violence or ousting of men and sex workers, it's their own target audience of scrote cults brainwashing them to engage in dehumanization, abuse and depravity until they get too deep in and reality of damaged bodies (STIs, ED, prolapse, brain damage etc.) and limited career/relationship opportunities (most women don't enjoy porn addicts, men don't respect performers) drops on them.
That's why the choice of having nothing to do with Low Value behavior is so important. It's dangerous, life-ruinous and potentially even deadly. And we're not the ones encouraging people to do it or normalizing it. Shame on us.
[–]ceramicunicornFDS Disciple51 points52 points53 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Happy Cake Day.
What infuriates me is when they immediately pull that “slut shaming” card or circle it back to being “puritanical”.
And I’m like, Girl, it has nothing to do with being puritanical. This is about health. I like drinking. But even though I like drinking, I’m responsible with the practice, I don’t drink trash just to get drunk. Choices like this just lead to hassle. I like less hassle.
And isn’t about shaming you to where I alienate you, it’s about shaking you awake. I’m not trying to cut you down, I’m trying to lift you up.
[–]Noemie_MathildeFDS Newbie33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The term "prude" is used to shame women with standards and boundaries.
[–][deleted] 52 points53 points54 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I keep asking them - how does you giving away tons of NSA sex and support sex work which is consumed almost exclusively by men empowering? How exactly are you “sticking it to the man”? ‘Ohhhh I am gonna fuck three guys in a row and start an OnlyFans, that will really stick it to the man!”
It’s bad enough we get used as sex rag dolls by men but now according to LibFem women we are somehow supposed to be happy about it and feel empowered by being seen as a hole and nothing else 🙄🙄. I know several men that say shit like “oh but I know women who are ok with it” and use that as a way to make YOU look like the crazy one for not being into porn/threesomes/choking/hookups/etc...and the LibFems 100% back them on it. They just throw their fellow women under a bus and get no love from me
[–]Warm_Ad6994FDS Newbie78 points79 points80 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I also never understood this. The same women who want to free the nipple and create an environment where the woman’s body isn’t sexualized are the ones making porn and profit off of sexualizing their bodies... I’m younger and most of my generation disagrees with me on this but what??? It makes no fucking sense.
[–]iaintgonnacallyouFDS Newbie64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yet whenever we say this, the pick mes respond with “it shouldn’t be sexualized period!” Then turn around and show their butthole to the world for $5.99.
[–]Warm_Ad6994FDS Newbie41 points42 points43 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously I’ve received the same responses and it’s just like... you do realize you’d be broke right now if men weren’t objectifying and sexualizing your body.. right? Nothing liberating about a society where men can buy most women’s asshole pics for 3.99. I guess cool that you’re not being abused by the porn industry but you’re not helping the epidemic that is the objectification of women so don’t act like you fucking are. Meh.
[–]siberiansummerFDS Disciple58 points59 points60 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Those young women pay for their NVMs with the money they make on Only Fans. Truly empowering..
[–]Sparrow_143FDS Newbie33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep & some of their NVMs "help them" upload the content so as to pimp them out.
[–]MyplummmsRuthless Strategist39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Their feminism is never about making positive changes for women, but instead reinforcing the status quo which by and large benefits men and the patriarchy.
[–]Gologic3422 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem is that women think they are exercising free choice, but it’s free choice within an invisible patriarchy that imprisons the whole culture. Only when we are all truly free will we be able to make honest choices. The first step is all good people encouraging women to reject the rules, structures and standards now holding us back so we may create new ones.
[–]berned-outFDS Newbie23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
LIFE PRO TIP: If you have people who treat you great who light you up, I've found that I always extend an invite and an offer to pay, whatever adventure I'm going on. 99% of the time people do not accept your offer but it's delightful for the ppl you care about to receive the offer. Of course, do this with ppl who don't abuse your attention or time or money LOL. Just the ones who treat you great and light you up.
I am so glad I stumbled upon this strategy. It has lead to great adventures and surprises and stronger quality friendships.
I'm always ready to fork out the extra, and sometimes your HVF bites and magic happens.
[–]MgrofChaosFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The best pro tips are ALWAYS in the comments! 🏅🌟🥇🎖️🌟
[–]Suspicious-Leg-1407FDS Apprentice85 points86 points87 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
I know right?
Can we all stop with the pick me sympathy on this sub? You have my sympathy if you were sex trafficked into sex work. If you chose to have an OF account, having done the research, you don't have my respect, my sympathy, my nothing. You're a loser.
[–]berned-outFDS Newbie45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Right? I have a young friend who's been trafficked, and she's in her 20's. I feel for her. She tells me that nearly every fucking guy on OF tries to get free shit, negotiate down, buy the minimum. It's not a money maker, but rather just another way for men to waste our time. She quit OF, and she was homeless at the time. Like, holding a sign and working a hula hoop on the college campus, working for tips from the family types was definitely more dignified and workable than OF.
[–]MixWideFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I disagree; I'm not here to bag on other women, especially not younger women who have to navigate the sexist hellscape of current society and dating culture. If I wanted to hear women being insulted, criticized, and blamed for the shitty way men treat them, I would go to literally any other sub on reddit.
Liberal feminist women absolutely have my sympathy. Hell, heterosexual women in general have my sympathy. It's a lose-lose situation everywhere you look.
Yes, I think they are making the wrong choices, and yes, it can be frustrating to watch. But there are dozens of billion-dollar industries working constantly to keep women confused and misdirected. Every single mainstream media outlet is parroting the same sexist dreck.
The backlash is so strong right now, and it's all on top of shit like the pandemic, which has hit women's progress brutally hard.
In my opinion, turning on other women is not the way to make any useful progress.
[–]Yeah_hey_kittycatFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
WOW that is so true!
[–]mysecretdiary2Throwaway Account13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why I used to believe feminism is stupid. Libfems were the ones most prominent and my first encounter with so called “feminism”. Years later I understand that I can believe in men having to provide for me, if I choose to be with one and be a feminist as well.
[–]_RustInPiece_FDS Apprentice4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where is the lie? 🤔
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[–]Summerisle7FDS Disciple53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I don't see how this is a conservative sub.
[–]redbirdfliesFDS STRATEGY COACH45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How can anyone view us as conservative when we are the antithesis of the red pill and mgtow?
Some people can’t separate the idea that you can have a liberal ideology while denouncing liberal feminism
It’s hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that people can’t separate the two things
Liberal feminism belongs in the trash can along with the views of both the far left and the far right
Politics has no place here. We are here to help women avoid being abused by the patriarchy
I don’t get why people need to label us as left or right
[–]Summerisle7FDS Disciple38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. Women's liberation is neither left nor right. It rises above those limited male perspectives
[–]redbirdfliesFDS STRATEGY COACH23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes. We need to stop using those labels that the patriarchy uses as a tool for division and chaos
We stand for protecting and empowering women. That’s our ideology
[–]jillkimberleyFDS Newbie-2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Once again I have not labeled anyone as anything other than myself :) why does everyone feel so victimized by this comment is the real question here, lmao
[+]jillkimberleyFDS Newbie-8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't mean to imply that it was :)
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
someone once described it as "radfem lite" for heterosexual women and I think it's spot on
[–]jillkimberleyFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Love that
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[–]MarbleWorldRuthless Strategist[S] 85 points86 points87 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
FDS users literally get banned by every feminist and female subreddit on here - not to mention being regularly dragged as “not real feminism” by redditors as well as liberal media articles about us so they are most definitely trying to paint us as antifeminist
[–]chateauduchatFDS Newbie69 points70 points71 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I literally was banned formerly from the feminism subreddit. It’s absolutely run by men. I’m so sick of libfem’s catering to men.
[+]findmeunderwater-8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’m sorry. That is really frustrating. I want to be clear that I don’t see it that way, and I’m sure many other liberal feminists also see the benefit of these strategies. I’m sorry that, by standing up for the belief that you should be treated as someone whose time is valuable, it’s causing people to attack.
Honestly, I’ve seen that happen a lot with women who say they support other women. Especially in group settings. They come down on people who say “this person has not treated me like I’m someone of value and I’m not ok with it.” “Oh... but you should try to understand his perspective...”
No. If someone is not treating me like I’m valued, and you’re trying to pressure me to accept that, you don’t support other women.
Edit - grammar. Whoops.
[–]Delicious_Comfort000FDS Newbie49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you support pornography and prostitution by “choice”? Because libfems do. It’s actually one of the defining characteristics of libfems.
Those two are not supported by FDS.
[–]HardwatergalFDS Newbie57 points58 points59 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FDS is a radical feminist subreddit. We do not support pornography or prostitution. Liberal feminists do. If you were banned from a libfem subreddit then you’re probably not a liberal feminist.
[–]Summerisle7FDS Disciple15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's a lot more than "frustrating." It's hate and de-platforming. Educate yourself! -as libfems like to say, lol
[–]Summerisle7FDS Disciple36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're not in a liberal feminist sub now. I suggest you read the FDS Handbook and some current discussion posts and get an idea of what we're about, before trying to impose rules about what we're allowed to say here.
[–]Ntop__FDS Newbie36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
FDS may have "strategy" in its name but it is about a lot more than that. FDS is a lifestyle based on the tenets of radical feminism, of which the majority are fundamentally incompatible with those of liberal feminism.
Those women who let themselves be taken advantage of men are for the most part indoctrinated into a liberal ideology from a young age.
FDS welcomes and is able to help many women. Though to fully understand and take advantage of the FDS teachings is to acknowledge the very real differences between liberal and radical feminism. And these must be felt in your bones, not cherry picked on a whim as long as they suit our oppressors.
[–]findmeunderwater3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for the clarification about the different types of feminism. I had read the handbook, but it was a while ago and I made the mistake of confusing the comment with a slam against liberals and feminists in general.
The last week has had a lot of political fighting, and it was my mistake to assume this was another manifestation of that.
Thank you.
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