The hypocrisy regarding WAP

Phoenix__Rising2018 · 2021-03-18T11:29:10+00:00

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sleepykittn · 2021-03-18T09:52:11+00:00

As Madonna put it, you can be sexy but you cant own your sexuality according to men

NewDriverStew · 2021-03-18T12:51:03+00:00

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headlights- · 2021-03-18T13:08:22+00:00

My ex knew about the song and thought that it was no big deal, then quickly changed his mind when he discovered that it was sung by women! Apparently it’s fine for men to sing about women’s bodies, but not for them to sing about their own. I don’t love the song, but it’s hardly the worst thing out there!

TagTrog · 2021-03-18T14:02:05+00:00

I have something to say about Cardi B. People who criticize her usually knock her down for the way she talks, or her grammar, and just generally call her stupid. I want to ask them: whose fault is that? Whose fault is it that the school district she grew up with was defunded? Whose fault is it that the level of education in this country is so bad for so many? I just can't stand it when bullies give someone a problem, and then bully them for having that problem that they created. America has so thoroughly failed so many people, and if they don't like that Cardi B is world famous, and showing people around the world the reality of the American educational system, and how cruelly we treat our poor, they need to address that specifically. It's just so unfair to knock down Cardi for her background, when our unequal system is the cause of her not being better-educated.

Every time I read some gross comment about Cardi from a man making fun of her intellect or calling her a &*%$# it makes me lose respect for men.

I didn't hear any men complaining when underaged Britney Spears was being exploited?

QueensJuju · 2021-03-18T13:45:12+00:00

She is literally describing everything men like to do, what they jerk off to in porn, and saying she does it well. The ONLY reason the song is getting mainstream hate is because she says she enjoys it too, that she consents. No one wants the porn silenced, no one wants to stop having the sex she's talking about - they just want her to stop talking about it.

LibFems then interpret this as silencing their sexuality and double down on "I wanna gag, I wanna choke".

There is no equivalent anthem for vanilla relationships. For commitment and respect and skilled lovers giving us multiple clitoral orgasms on our terms. For truly taking on their share of household maintenance, for going to therapy before they even meet us, for raw ass love. Please. That shit's not cool, not sexy, doesn't sell. This isn't taking back our sexuality, it's not empowering, it's pandering to the male gaze.

She's wet. She screams. She never comes in the song ladies. She 👏 never 👏 comes 👏

hethrezen · 2021-03-18T10:55:25+00:00

yeah, i hate the song, it's like the kinkmeisha anthem, but the hypocrisy is just 💀💀💀

SadMadNomad · 2021-03-18T16:44:28+00:00

I have such mixed feelings about WAP.

On one hand, it's a catchy song and the raunchiness isn't anything new. I listened to Lil' Kim's "How Many Licks" when I was a preteen (and I really shouldn't have but oh well). It's not a feminist anthem, but there is something to be said about how women are singing about cunnilingus and enjoying sex. Plenty of male singers and rappers talk about sex, blow jobs, their dicks, and everything nasty you can think of. The expectation for women to be good role models is stronger than it is for men; no one worried about the behavior of little boys because of, let's say, Snoop Dogg or 50 Cent, back in the day.

On the other hand, I understand why feminists are critical of the song and its performance. Speaking for myself, I was disappointed by the music video and the Grammys' choreography. I thought it would've been bolder if Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion were surrounded by a bunch of hot men ready to serve and please them. I find it interesting how even when women are focused on sexual empowerment, they still objectify themselves instead of men. The lyrics of WAP also focus on male-centered sexual acts, such as deepthroating, BDSM, etc.

It's complicated. I don't think Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion are "ruining" society or anything like that because of one raunchy song, but the over-sexualization of women in the media, even when women participate in it, is exhausting. Knowing female artists have to sexualize themselves to be successful and popular makes me realize objectification isn't likely to go away any time soon, and probably never will because of how lucrative it is.

I agree, though, that WAP is nowhere near to the misogynistic levels of some of the things men sing and rap about. I'm showing my age here, but I still remember Eminem's song "Kim", where he describes abusing his then-wife...

2021-03-18T17:17:43+00:00

I think Cardi B has done the best she can given her life circumstances. She never said she was a role model but has clawed her way out of poverty turning the tables on those who have judged her all her life.

She’s above all a business woman and so far her product is selling(Probably consumed in secret by her loudest critics). Whether you like the song or not her ultimate goal was to make money just like men have been, monetizing the female body since the beginning of time.

fdssavedmylife · 2021-03-18T11:52:18+00:00

FYI, that song was also written by four men. One is billed above Cardi B and all four are billed above Megan. I love this song, I even learned the dance (lol), but it’s not my preferred female empowerment anthem.

BigDebbie4ever · 2021-03-18T16:47:50+00:00

Conservaties will clutch their pearls and then go search pornhub/teen.... but yeah....a sexy song is the problem

_queeeen_ · 2021-03-18T18:16:26+00:00

I wouldn’t know, I refuse to listen to rap by men. Female rappers only. 💕

fds_account58 · 2021-03-18T21:13:29+00:00

YES YES YES. I don’t support WAP and I think Cardi B is hurting women with her antics, particularly black women who are already overly objectified, sexualized, and disrespected. But none of these conservative dudes ever mention any of that. They’re just mad a woman is talking about objectifying a man as well. Dead silence when all the other rappers NOT ONLY discussed graphic sex acts but also violence and objectification.

Nice_Pass2393 · 2021-03-18T11:52:33+00:00

Cardi b is not an empowered female. She is a stripper helping to make old guys that own only fans rich. I don't like her because she is influencing young girls to strip, have of and get dangerous butt and breast implants

2021-03-18T16:08:38+00:00

It’s misogynoir.

GiraffeLibrarian · 2021-03-18T12:18:19+00:00

Have never listened to it and don’t intend to. L I’ll probably get downvoted but oh well.

2021-03-18T16:23:29+00:00

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Date	March 18, 2021 8:35 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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