Learned a lesson today: Keep your personal life to yourself.

originaldutchcow · 2019-06-06T11:43:34+00:00

This is true. I have been getting in an argument with a coworker lately. Basically he is a blue pill guy that got cheated and shat on by women many times in his life. Up to the point of no longer being able to work in the night shifts because it gave him too much time to think about women, so his colleague friend worked HIS nightshifts for half a year - talk about blue pill sadness.

We were getting into an argument because his friend that worked his night shifts wants to move to another country to live with his girlfriend, a woman he has been seeing for about 8 months. I stated Obvious red flags in her behaviour by pointing out that her facebook status still publicly shows she is single. Women know VERY WELL what they are doing - you dont fuck a man for 8 months straight and still keep your relationship status 'single' by accident. I said that the moment she finds someone better than him, she will monkey branch off to someone better because this is the hypergamous whore that she is. Not only that, but i believe my colleague is being impulsive as he had lost his mother a couple of years ago and he has being doing drugs and stuff like that alot lately, so obviously he wants to get some sort of a high to forget the pain. Love is a very dangerous to look out for if you are in that situation.

My colleague went apeshit.. "Oh, and what about other colleagues here who are married? you wonder what they think about you when you talk like that about their wives? "

I dont give a damn about your fairy tale bro, keep lusting for pussy and enjoy another half a year of no night shifts because you are emotionally broken. Retarded simps.

mgtowguy3 · 2019-06-06T11:53:59+00:00

There is NOTHING to gain from telling people about yourself. At the least, they will resent you, and at worst, cause problems with your employment.

Very true. A few men come by being this way naturally but for most of us we have to learn from hard experience.

Goshtow · 2019-06-06T12:13:22+00:00

I have taken to treating co workers like you treat classmates the first week you are together in a new class. I don't know you, i don't really want to know you but you will tell me stuff. I nod and 'uh huh' my way through everything, being as opinionated as styrofoam. Generic personal answers and basic work nodding and thats it. I'll maybe attend the stupid get together you guys are doing at a local bar or restaurant, but just more nodding and observing.

I'm sorry you have this reputation now man. Hopefully you can weather it out.

IntelligentRetard99 · 2019-06-06T13:04:08+00:00

Learn to lie. MGTOWs are often very driven by principle. Morality. Whats right and whats wrong. That can end up hurting you in the long run.

Many MGTOWs need to learn how to lie. Just say you have tried dating and you just havent found the right one. If they ask sporadically, just say you were on a date and it didnt work out. Laugh it off as you being too hard to please. Just dont give them anything to make them feel like you are different. Never brag about your finances or money. Follow the Gray man theory. Around friends who you trust and know wont backstab you, dont be afraid to say whatever is on your mind. Its OKAY to brag or say you dislike women around them, if you know they will not judge you for your options. My experience is that great minds think alike, and if your friends are MGTOW (even in disguise), they will accept you for who you are.

When it comes to climate change, feminism and all that retarded stuff, share some retarded things you find on facebook that makes it seem that you are "normal". Be an illusionist and create the illusion of being safe and normal. I know it sucks, but its worth it in the long run. Attention is your worst enemy.

The biggest threat to your existence are cucks and feminists. Conservative people might think you are one of them, but many will not pose a big threat to you. Guard your social status and reputation with your life. If you have enemies they will try to ruin you. Like I said, be a gray man.

I still struggle with this simple concept, and I to this day struggle to seem normal. However, people suck and you just have to lie. Dont engage in topics that are bound to be trouble. Never seem negative or pose a threat. Talk about the weather. Talk about sports. Talk about cars. Make them talk about their lives. Act interested. Be fake.

Its all about feelings for these people. They are idiots. Dont let the consequence of their irrational behavior damage you.

ctgjerts · 2019-06-06T12:26:00+00:00

Life is a marathon, not a sprint. Your coworker may or may not have made the correct choices for him - time will tell, likely he will regret quite a few of them. Most of us do. Your choices are yours, if you paid cash for a house at 20 you should be well able to retire at 40 and do whatever you want. Sail the world, hike across the continents, lay about the house - whatever. Your coworker on the other hand with a kid already on the hook will not likely be able to make the same choices at 40. He'll have a teenager and those costs a hell of a lot more than a baby. Also, likely that his gf will take off with the kid and the state will come after him for child support.

OLD-TRUCK · 2019-06-06T13:18:34+00:00

Shutting up is always an option. The older I get, the easier it is to do. When young, it is difficult.

spydyrmyn · 2019-06-06T13:11:32+00:00

If you tell people about your choice to GYOW they all try to get you to go back to the plantation. There's only been one guy at work who's agreed with me and ironically he's married and has a child. He says that while he loves his child, if he could go back and do things over, he wouldn't of have a kid with the woman he did.

But there's always going to be that one asshole who's completely miserable with their life and when they hear that your life is exactly what they wish theirs could be they get resentful and try to use shame tactics and fear to make you go back to the plantation. I always get the classic, oh so you want to die alone with no one? Money won't love you like a wife and kids!

I love the look on people's faces when you give them the reality check though. Everyone dies alone, life isn't some Hollywood happy ending where everyone you love is around your bed as you take your last breathes and money may not love me like a wife and kids sure but my money won't just decide to up and leave me randomly one day over some arbitrary nonsense, nor does my money argue with me and force me to make decisions.

scaur · 2019-06-06T13:16:23+00:00

Just follow the first rule of fight club....

Pruny85 · 2019-06-06T14:19:27+00:00

play dumb bro, and dont show off wealth.

shellbross · 2019-06-06T12:04:57+00:00

Just pretend you are married with a kid or two. That way you have excuses for sometimes going home a little bit early when you're fed up working, or for arriving a bit late on the morning. You even have the bullshit excuse of "my kid is sick I need to stay home today". All in all, only benefits. Luckily nobody never asked me proof of my having children nor a wife...

CastandRefused · 2019-06-06T13:39:03+00:00

Ah, the classic "you'll die alone and my life has more meaning because I'm married with kids." They act like it's some sort of contest and as if someone will write a book about the meaning of everyone's lives after we all die, it's absurd. Everyone should live how they want as long as we aren't hurting anyone none of this matters, we create meaning, meaning and happiness comes from within. Just ignore these fools and go about your business.

ls2087 · 2019-06-06T11:45:16+00:00

Its a good point. However if it bothers you, lie to them. What does it matter anyway really? Tell them you are gay tell them you adopted an African. Whatever they want to hear if that's your concern.

Rafique678 · 2019-06-06T14:42:04+00:00

I bought a house in cash at 20

Congrats bro

Rogue3StandingBy · 2019-06-06T15:30:02+00:00

Friends don't understand why I ONLY drive my beater Scion to work. This is exactly why. The peanut gallery at work doesn't need to know what kinds of toys I have.

IISandyII · 2019-06-06T13:58:02+00:00

My ex thought I was trying to hide something from her , when I told her I like to keep my personal life to myself and didn’t blast it all over Facebook

squiddy_s550gt · 2019-06-06T13:44:43+00:00

Must suck to work around simps. Most of my co workers are tradcons, but at least they know whats up. Specially after we see others go through divorce.

Hell, there are a few of us who openly bash ever getting married. I was thinking about moving, but maybe I’ll stay

[deleted] · 2019-06-06T14:22:15+00:00

In today's Orwellian age, you can lose your job for expressing MGTOW views while off the clock. Be very, very careful on social media, and never express controversial opinions to coworkers, even outside of work.

wwwwvwwvwvww · 2019-06-06T14:34:28+00:00

The less you reveal, the more interesting you are in the eyes of others usually.

jbslol · 2019-06-06T16:25:24+00:00

Anyone who doesn’t follow the normal path designed by society is going to be judged.

I had a boss tell me a long time ago that marriage isn’t for everyone. He always had amazing common sense and he is right. Divorce only exists because people who shouldn’t marry give it a shot because they want to fit in to society’s norm.

waterfat · 2019-06-06T16:28:19+00:00

Unless you start your own gig, you will change jobs and probably careers multiple times.

My father told me as a kid to always be looking for a job, you are your own advocate in looking and negotiating for jobs.

At the start of each month I spend a few hours over a few days looking. You never know.

Find another job

TigPlaze · 2019-06-06T14:43:01+00:00

This post should be stickied to the right. It's some of the best advice I've seen on this sub. I've used two different approaches -- one as he's described, just keeping my private life private. The other one was making up a fictional girlfriend just so they would not bug me. That grew tiresome always having to lie. There's even a service you can sign up for where someone will text you as your girlfriend. It works, but, as I said, it grew tiresome having to always lie.

Your private life is no one else's business. Your coworkers have an interest in your doing your job well, but anything private is none of their business.

ransay3277 · 2019-06-06T15:05:02+00:00

Old guy here. Yes it is a bad idea to talk about your lifestyle to coworkers. The underlying problem is that you are going against their life choices. You have a paid off house etc. He is having to keep some size 16 and her kid happy. When, not if, she splits, guess who is going to pay child support. Not you. And if he marries her... Good luck pal. People that have kids out of wedlock and then get married have a worse record of divorce. Hell, if he does that, he's going to be paying for a house he's not living in.

sbmale1986 · 2019-06-06T15:15:18+00:00

In a few years that same guy will be here. "You Guys Were Right"

SaharaFatCat · 2019-06-06T15:43:34+00:00

Nobody is gonna agree with you when you're basically telling them their life is shitty.

You may be right... But to convince someone, you need to ask them questions that lead them to their own answers. They're more likely to believe something when they come to the conclusion "themselves".

_n1codemus · 2019-06-06T16:35:10+00:00

We all talk too much.

There is a reason why e.g monastic orders in Catholcism/Orthodoxy take vows of silence. Words that shall break it (silence) would need to be good to make it worth breaking. Stillness of The Order.

ilovealuts · 2019-06-06T18:26:08+00:00

You have a job. You should go in , smile, do your work, then leave.

If someone talks to you just say the weather is nice and you’re looking forward to the weekend.

That’s it. Anything else is naive.

MgtowAutumn · 2019-06-06T14:19:29+00:00

Coworkers talk because they want to talk about themselves. I’ve had some legit bro friendships develop from work but by and large they’re shallow relationships. I’ve talked about myself and think I’m a fascinating guy but you can just see coworkers eyes glaze over as they wait their turn to speak.

I’ve also learned there is zero reason to ever talk good about yourself. Talking about your success and accomplishments pisses people off because your average person has neither. They don’t want to hear that your life is good. I’ve talked about how nice all my disposable income is and how I have no responsibilities outside of myself and my work. You can feel the family people with bags under their eyes start to get annoyed.

Long winded way of saying you are absolutely right. I’ve actually gone almost full digital ghost mode, only my LinkedIn and a 14 year old poem shows up if you search my name. Not a damn person needs to know a thing about me, it’s liberating to be beholden to no one and nothing.

oirectine00 · 2019-06-06T15:46:57+00:00

I just let them blather on about their girlfriends and their wives and how "happy" they are and smile and look supportive, and then say "Hey, I gotta get back to work. I'm sorta busy".

[deleted] · 2019-06-06T16:21:56+00:00

Thanks for the warning. I was toying with the idea of being candid about GMOW.

febreezing_hobos · 2019-06-06T16:42:56+00:00

I was at my favorite watering hole the other day, and one of the regular bartenders was day drinking with a friend of hers. A somewhat regular patron, we'll call him D, got drunk and started talking about male domestic violence statistics. I never thought he was smart enough to know about this, but lo and behold, I watched the shitshow unfold before my eyes. He cited the correct statistics, and provided exampled from his ahem colorful dating past. He was met with "Whatever, D. That's total bullshit!" I just sat and watched as I knew how this was going to go as soon as he mentioned male domestic violence. I keep my MGTOW stuff pretty much to myself, but I have been known to drop red pills here and there. But this is why you keep that shit to yourself, or talk about it with like minded friends.

FritzLn · 2019-06-06T16:16:34+00:00

I feel sorry for ppl that can't just go to work and go home. I sleep like a baby and can't wait to get back to work. Peace of mind is everything

ThePlague · 2019-06-06T16:44:52+00:00

People are much less tolerant than they once were. I've seen that in my lifetime, and it certainly has accelerated the last ten years or so. Expressing views at work outside some spread of the mean is dangerous for continued employment at the very least.

The way I view it, I'm there to work, not express opinions or personal philosophy outside my area of expertise. So, keeping things close to the vest is easy with that attitude. You're not there (presumably) to argue lifestyle or politics, you're there to do a job.

[deleted] · 2019-06-06T20:36:08+00:00

I always keep work life and personal life separated. Never let other people know your power level. Instead be like water and fit in any situation. Make friends that way you can call on favors and avoid talking to enemies. Instead point out obvious facts that others can agree with. "Marriage is not a contract between you and a woman its between you and the government and i want to keep the government out of my life". "I dont like women who sleep around they appear trashy and whats the fun in that". "Women age like shit i cant find anyone attractive past the age of 30 so why invest in a LTR?"

To respond to the "dont you want kids" line. Say hell ya i do but only when im financially secure and can give them the best future possible. This makes it look like you are planning for it and you are going above and beyond. Bonus points if you can play off the you were poor as a kid so you dont want your kids to grow up poor.

Mgtow_troaway · 2019-06-06T14:27:11+00:00

Hard won lesson. I kept having to learn it at different jobs and college. It's so tempting because our instinct is to bond with others, especially if we see ourselves in them. We want to share wisdom and warnings, it's human nature.

It's a trap everytime. My rule of thumb is youre there to work, not to evangelize, not to make friends, not to connect with others (outside of professional necessity), not to find your tribe. There's a kind of heartbreak in that realization that often goes overlooked, especially by guys, but by overlooking it you risk not internalizing the message and thus risk having to relearn it.

Charlamagme · 2019-06-06T14:34:16+00:00

That man is operating off of the sunk cost fallacy. Super common among cucks and simps. He’s too far deep in now (with a kid) for him to even fathom his situation as not ideal.

[deleted] · 2019-06-06T14:49:40+00:00

There are two types attitudes towards success people have in life.

There are the people who are happy for your success and strive to learn from you. These are the good people, as they are interested in succeeding and want to learn from your success. They genuinely praise you and support your goals and desires because they like it when people succeed.

Then there are the people who hold resentfulness towards success. They regret the shitty decisions they made in life and are in a very negative energetic and emotional space. Instead of striving to build a better life, they externalize blame.

These people who act like you are a spoiled rich kid delegitimize your success because they know you are doing better than they are. It's a crab mentality where instead of wanting to succeed with you and see you succeed, they want to bring you down to their level. They can't cope with the fact that you are doing better than they are so their jealousy and resentfulness persuades them to belittle your success.

Don't get upset at yourself that they are like this to you. You did nothing wrong. I'm in a similar camp and I deal with terrible people like this plenty of times. My coworkers do not like me. They are older than me by generations but I am better off than they are.

I get shit from them where they act like I don't do my job right even though I work ridiculous hours. If they weren't there to help, I would be fine. Don't need them to do my job.

But they act like I'm a stupid spoiled rich kid who doesn't know anything. I overhead them refer to me as a "dumbass" once in a conversation. That's funny, because I'm the only person that has in depth knowledge about how to do my (extremely vital) job in the company. If I disappeared tomorrow, the whole business would go under.

My knowledge and skills literally keep these ungrateful idiots employed. Yet, I'm somehow a "dumbass" in their eyes. Why? Because I get paid very well for my hard work and unique skills.

They sound jealous, OP. Fuck them, don't feel bad about anything. You are better than they are, and their jealousy simply confirms this.

If you let the opinions of these idiots hold you back from success, you will be as dumb as they are.

PeterPansSyndrome · 2019-06-06T14:49:46+00:00

Lol you gave them multiple reasons to hate on you. Buying a house cash while young AND being MGTOW. Hope this lessons stick. Also, your coworker is a dumbass and your quality of life likely is better than his on a daily basis. Even before his “ideal” lifestyle falls through with his girlfriend and kid.

CeleritySteam · 2019-06-06T15:12:25+00:00

Let him lose his house and job and whatever else. Do nothing, not even point and laugh.

scotch-and-hookers · 2019-06-06T15:21:40+00:00

“Spoiled rich kid having problems with women”.

Meh, thats nothing. I say fuck it and spin it to your advantage. Gotta change that “rich” part. Say that you like to gamble and lost some $$. Say that u are needy, clingy with high standards. Tried dating but got hosed. Ask for dating advises from females. They seem to love it but its all bs. Say shit that makes women cringe. Gotta avoid that bulls eye. I’m surrounded by single mothers at work. Gotta change their minds where you are too much work to become a “catch”. Alcoholic, huge debt, helicopter parents thats horrible with $$ so they always ask u for money, family hit with high medical debt so u charged all on credit cards, etc. Gotta knock yourself off the podium in their eyes. You lost $$ in stocks, got scammed, etc. They seem to relish in other co-workers misery. That is why gossip exist. Lol.

Danllco · 2019-06-06T15:26:37+00:00

If everyone else has a problem with how you live, maybe you should change it?

shadocatssb · 2019-06-06T15:45:43+00:00

Since he has a girlfriend and a kid, his life is guaranteed to be better than mine.

Alimony, Divorce, and Chad: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"

Give it time. That statement will come back to bite him.

iwant2liveinpeace · 2019-06-06T16:26:48+00:00

Well I had the same experience I dont like to socialize with married men / simps / cucks / soyboy or men with too many daughter they are just as bad no offence .

The best thing in life is to avoid these people.

BannyVader · 2019-06-06T16:33:11+00:00

Even further, I literally do not associate with coworkers male or female. I come in, say good morning, do my job, and say good evening before leaving. I refuse to engage in small talk, and as I work with mostly women, anytime I am asked for my opinion about something not work related, I pretend to not have an opinion.

I literally want nothing to do with these people, and if I wokr here wouldnt know them anyway. They're all lost in the matrix, have nothing to talk about other than their stupid kids, whatever tv show is popular, and gossip. I refuse to be part of it. They dont need to know anything about my life at all, that I dont volunteer.

Anytime someone asks me, "how was your weekend", I give the same answer: "It was definitely 2 days."

strangerthing7 · 2019-06-06T16:37:58+00:00

Who cares about a reputation at a job. A job is just a job, you can get another job. If you like your job tho, like you said, I too keep 99 percent of my life private and do not discuss it at work, there is no point. I know how you feel, sometimes we need to get things off our chests. But I suggest finding a therapist just to let off some confidential steam. And make sure it's a male therapist, not a female.

OLD-TRUCK · 2019-06-06T16:52:00+00:00

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FaustoLG · 2019-06-06T16:52:36+00:00

Thank God that it is you, with money I could turn the events, pay someone and... Let's not spoil the surprise to the future widow.

Makonar · 2019-06-06T16:57:44+00:00

Only other MGTOW will appreciate your success and congratulate you. Blu pilled men will defend their blue pilled world to the death and there is no convincing them. The same goes for SJW's and feminists - there is no argument to be had, there are no switching sides, it's just a loud proclaiment of one's own alliegiance and that's it You are right, telling people how well you are doing is bad because nobody who you work with will be happy for you - they will either get mad at you for doing better than themselves or get mad at the boss for not paying them as much as you (doesn't matter if he acutally does or doesn't).

QuietDespperado · 2019-06-06T17:04:10+00:00

He was most likely trying to convince himself, what's truly known doesn't need to be said.

SomeGhostingGuy · 2019-06-06T17:12:39+00:00

I keep it neutral by saying that:

Back when I wanted one I did not get one and now I am glad things are that way.

Gets positive nods by men and funnily women (I am ugly though)

Married men would like to be me, women are glad that I have no interest.

jfiscal · 2019-06-06T17:25:46+00:00

Gotta carefully curate your reputation

"I don't have a problem with women, I'm just too sensitive and a bit of a loser. I want a family but I'm just not good enough"

That way you can get sympathy and ensure that no one will try and hook you up with someone they know, since you're just a romantically worthless loser

fullcircletech · 2019-06-06T17:27:06+00:00

Wisdom comes from making and recognizing dumb ass mistakes.

Learn and move on young man, get a new job or take an IDGAF position at the office.

Don't apologize. Never complain.

Man up and move on.

shutdown343 · 2019-06-06T17:27:46+00:00

You really shouldnt care what they have to say about you or your life. I would say you know what youre right i will die alone but atleast my life is one hell of a ride and adventure that has no set backs. I can do what i want when i want with nothing or no one stopping me and the best part of all o can be selfish and you or no one else can do anything about it. People will criticize you no matter what you choose to do with your life just dont listen to wack jobs that think they got it all figured out because no one in this world does. And about dying alone doesnt everyone?

yolx09 · 2019-06-06T17:29:47+00:00

wait till his kid fucking hates him

and his bitch fucks another dude and gets divorced

TheLastMgtow · 2019-06-06T17:34:08+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEDyFvKFcoQ

Tell him he looks like that girl.

Uranus_Opposition · 2019-06-06T17:34:42+00:00

I met a client that is MGTOW. He dropped some key words and I dropped some key words, then we chatted for a good couple hours about life.

doomdevice · 2019-06-06T17:52:05+00:00

your coworker is an idiot and you should ignore people like that at all cost

they will always seek validation for ther life choices and try to make you feel bad for not being like them

the real truth is that he already has limited options and can't go back

Freefrombitches123 · 2019-06-06T18:13:17+00:00

I learnt this lesson through sports. Be pleasant and let your game do the talking.

rlp1212 · 2019-06-06T18:13:20+00:00

Humans want only the best for themselves, this may extend a biological generation or two, but largely humans want others to suffer, fail, die out. Evolutionary psychology is human nature, few if any rise above it. If you can’t contribute to someone else’s survival you are competition. The workplace is a war game.

Bokulence · 2019-06-06T18:44:37+00:00

You should know that speaking about your personal life at work is bad thing, is common thing. People there are like sharks and someone will become so vulnerable if they don't agreed with someone else views, thoughts or whatever. They will crush you and eat you and berate you.

I always say that you don't need to know that

Or i don't want to talk for my personal life.

Might anger them, but fuck, who cares, i am here to get money. not to talk about my life for someone else entertainment.

supermario218 · 2019-06-06T18:55:06+00:00

Yep, just smile and wave boys. Smile and wave. People don't need to know all the details of your life.

Red_Pill_Philosopher · 2019-06-06T19:03:04+00:00

Facts. Always move in silence.

Docbear64 · 2019-06-06T19:06:52+00:00

People should have to earn the right to get to know oyu . I am very private myself because not everyone gets to be around me or close to me or deserves to have any insight into my life or lessons learned unless they prove themselves as someone that I want to help , educate, or get to know .

Sharing yourself with everyone is really a waste of your value . Also for lots of stupid fucked up reasons people covet to now people who aren't that accessible . Which only reinforces the idea that the people you are close to are worthwhile and valuable .

Don't cast pearls before swine, they don't know the value of anything and won't appreciate it.

EqualFaithlessness · 2019-06-06T19:15:42+00:00

Made the same mistake, I work with all women. And my god do they gossip. I knew this but I didn’t know it was this bad.

TheSud007 · 2019-06-06T19:18:45+00:00

Very true^ sometimes you must play the role of a fool to fool the fool who thinks they're fooling you

MuleFool42 · 2019-06-06T19:21:15+00:00

Yup, best to go unnoticed by society in general.

[deleted] · 2019-06-06T19:25:16+00:00

Personally dude, I have reached a point where I filter every interaction with people I have.

If they seem: irrational, deceptive, or in disagreement with me, I tread very lightly. I've been in situations where people stab me in the back too many times. Same thing goes if a person has a significantly lower SMV than myself-- in part b/c I've had jealous people I barely know try and degrade me publicly or stab me in the back.

Be very careful with people. I typically treat most of them like children, while still staying in an adult voice/mentality with them.

onlyhere4tehsubs · 2019-06-06T19:27:46+00:00

The correct response is: "I'm asexual, you're harassing me and I'm reporting you to HR."

SuperbrImaging · 2019-06-06T19:44:19+00:00

Not that it makes the situation any better, but I'm sure deep down they don't see you that way.

They're jealous and bitter towards you and this is the only way they can make themselves feel better. Finding fault in your reasoning and lying to themselves that they're happier than you are. A good majority would swap places with you in a fucking heartbeat.

Similar to how fat girls skinny shame. They sure as hell wish they were thin like the girls they're shaming.

JZSquared · 2019-06-06T20:01:01+00:00

It sounds like your coworker is bitter and resentful and is lashing out at you because of it.

max-watermin · 2019-06-06T20:19:09+00:00

You’re right. Proceeding with caution is the best choice in this situation.

SmrtMouth1 · 2019-06-06T20:19:13+00:00

You bought a house in cash at 20? Wow. That's amazing actually.

HonestJT · 2019-06-06T20:36:46+00:00

So true. It sucks I think because at the end of the day we all want to live our lives mgtow and still have a few friends along the way. Its tobad that this person doesn't realise his judgment of you is in fact isolating you. He is contributing to being just a little bit more alone. He is right but not for the reasons he thinks. I almost hate going to work anywhere now because of my mgtow choices. I honestly just feel alone anywhere I work because i don't get the jokes about wives and the drinking your self into a stupor every night.

GaryGewaltschiss · 2019-06-06T20:41:48+00:00

My response would've been: well, whatever dude. Just imagine me with looking at you a snarky grin when you get handed your divorce papers and the paternity-rights case.

Edit: the easy way to respond would be something like "well, I just cant seem to find the right woman, thanks for making that clear, champ.

Kunaired15 · 2019-06-06T20:42:46+00:00

for me i only telling men about Mgtow if they are so depressed in their relationship or they have a suicidal though from a broken heart.

unpropaganda · 2019-06-06T21:20:30+00:00

I agree with you, but don't beat yourself up over it. Life is a learning experience. When we're young, we don't see the value in playing our cards close to the chest, because we have no chips on the table. When we're older though, and have significant assets, silence is golden.

Talking about money and strategies for acquiring it are delicate subjects, and co-workers are the worst people to talk about it with. When co-workers find out you got money, they know they can inflict damage upon you they can't to a poor person.

They can rumormonger to try and cost you your job. They can sabotage you. They can accuse you of things. Purely out of spite because you're doing better than them. In my experience, your average degenerate will try to destroy the property of another if they aren't capable of stealing it from them or taking it by force.

Your boss also won't like hearing that. Young men with money are trouble for them. They don't want debt-free young men that are mobile. They might need your skills, but the standard tactic of "rewarding" a high-performer with more work for the same pay can't work on you. You can just quit and get a new job if the job duties become unreasonable. A rude boss can busy himself finding your replacement while his competition offers you raises.

Bosses love desperate men with debt: student loans, mortgage, kids not in college yet, divorced, child support, starting to save for retirement at 50, alimony. High-performers in that category can be worked remorselessly as a slave.

Women are the primary reason men end up with ruined finances and ruined health. If you reveal MGTOW philosophy to the enemy side, they know you have a much higher likelihood of becoming independently wealthy. Most of the power in society is not exercised by government, but by private power controlling one's access to their livelihood by controlling them through their job.

If you don't need a job, you have genuine freedom. And the corporate criminals and their trained legislative seals hate freedom for anyone outside their clique.

figyg · 2019-06-06T21:25:04+00:00

As my friend Ronin man says, be a black box.

Almost once a month for the past year there has been a guy on here crying about an argument he had with his parents or how he got estranged from his family or friends because he tries red pilling anyone that will talk with them.

Here's a tip: keep that shit to yourself. No one wants to hear it. Anything you have coming your way for talking about it, you deserve.

If your parents are pushing you to date, just lie and say you went on a date or 2 and you didnt like the girl. It's so simple, but you morons want to try and fight a machine.

Keep it to yourself. Don't even talk to your best friend or brother or dad about it. If you wanna talk about it, do it here.

realChebz · 2019-06-06T21:44:36+00:00

Great reminder OP. Once you hang out around mgtows for awhile, you forget how blue pilled other men are. And they will will react poorly even violently at times it you attempt to question their programming. What I recommend is wearing a mask of a hopeless romantic, "where's your gf?" "Oh I'm looking for one, I wish I was as lucky as you to have met such a beautiful woman" "oh hahaha thanks man!". Then you just turn around and go do your own thing. Don't try to tree pill them.

Soldierbosh · 2019-06-06T21:46:46+00:00

Generally the term hypergamous whore' is best avoided in any social circle.

I mean, it could well be deadly accurate, but social circles are weird places. Taking offense is a sign of dominance, sometimes, for people who give a shit about this kind of thing. I do not.

U-94 · 2019-06-06T22:05:29+00:00

Play dumb or lie. Nobody is actually interested in your life. They won't fact check.

smallSackBigShaft · 2019-06-06T23:36:12+00:00

Why do you even care about people

Machomuk89 · 2019-06-06T23:51:33+00:00

Yeah it sucks but it's all we can do to stay secure. I have a friend on my fb page that's going through some depression shit about women. He's always posting very cringy memes about needing a "loyal" woman and all this pity me stuff. I'm very tempted to dm him a link to MGTOW or something but it's just not worth the potential backlash.

512165381 · 2019-06-07T01:09:22+00:00

Had this friend at work that said he had a tax problem.

After knowing him for a few years he said he had $4 million in investments. I want his problem.

[deleted] · 2019-06-07T01:45:37+00:00

People like to chew on bones so give them innocuous bones about your life to chew on keeping things that are personal to yourself. Admit that you bought the wrong can opener. They will spend the same amount of time chewing on that bone as they would if you offered up personal information which of course is none of their business. Every word you speak is a potential weapon for someone with malicious intent. They feed their need for their dopamine rush by judging others. Can opener mistakes release the same level of dopamine with minimum damage to you. Deflect and avoid sociopaths. They will find another feeding ground if you’re not producing.

firzosudra2 · 2019-06-07T03:11:49+00:00

If someone questions why you don't have a girlfriend, wife or something, just say that you're celibate for religious reasons. People may think you're a bit weird (or even homo), but they won't bother you if you consecrated yourself to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

RobloxMilfGrannyPorn · 2019-06-07T03:34:09+00:00

Just say you're gay and they will feel like shit for giving you a hard time lol

Khlawait · 2019-06-07T08:52:57+00:00

Better die alone rather than to die in misery

theorymeltfool · 2019-06-06T16:11:35+00:00

If this is going to be career-limiting, you might want to think about trying to find a better paying job at a different company. Then you can really start from scratch.

Solo_and_Simple · 2019-06-06T21:53:58+00:00

I agree, you will generally just be met with social shaming. People are programmed to enforce the status quo. Besides that, you're a threat to their whole way of organizing their life, identity, and self-worth -- so naturally they're going to belittle and look down on you.

Strixt · 2019-06-06T16:58:18+00:00

The hardest part about being young is trying to make connections. We assume we can talk freely in a 1st amendment society if you are in America. Without it costing your livelihood for stating your opinion. Wrong.

You better not talk politics, religion, or personal view points. It’ll cost you an HR visit. Cost you a promotion. Have a false allegation levied against you. You will be judged unfairly by those around you.

Learn to be a wise cop. Assume people are going to lie to you and about you to get their way. You have to be careful with every word you say.

Society: when are you getting married? Have a girlfriend?

Incorrect response Mgtow: awalt awalt awalt

Correct response mgtow: haven’t found love. Need to find myself first. Travel before settling down.

Society: kids and house?

Incorrect response mgtow: yeah bought my own place it’s nice have lots of extra free time to enjoy my hobbies.

Correct response mgtow: Holding it down what I can. Kids not in the cards atm. Working in a budget have to get finances right and work on myself to be the person kids can look up to.

Thank you for your story. It inspires the rest of us to learn and gain wisdom through others trials and hardships.

Title	Learned a lesson today: Keep your personal life to yourself.
Author	OLD-TRUCK
Upvotes	495
Comments	158
Date	June 6, 2019 11:34 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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