Artificial wombs are misogyny according to Newsweek

sirwartooth · 2014-08-07T18:41:16+00:00

"We can kill all men and keep the species going based off of sperm banks!" "Wait, you don't need us for reproduction anymore? That's misogyny!"

SnowboarderZX · 2014-08-07T18:03:08+00:00

Feminists complain how there aren't many female CEO's. The fact that many women want to have children, which would interfere with work, is a major reason for that. This invention would let women who want to succeed in work do both. How the hell is that mysoginistic?

kragshot · 2014-08-07T19:46:02+00:00

Three years ago, I made a comment in this sub about how feminists were going to cry "misogyny" when the development of artificial wombs would be a viable technology. My remark was ridiculed by feminist agitators claiming that my concern was total nonsense and no feminist would make such a statement.

"Told-you-so's" are a motherfucker, aren't they?

Brandwein · 2014-08-07T18:27:08+00:00

Then machines that relieve men of workload are misandry.

2014-08-07T19:05:31+00:00

Misogyny my ass. This would be life-changing for women who have healthy ovaries but can't have children for other reasons. Anyone who opposes the development or availability of this technology would be doing so at the expense of women.

VuffyPulva · 2014-08-07T18:39:58+00:00

This question has caused a rift between leading scientists and feminist scholars, who state that ectogenesis “could hand over women’s sacred birthing ability to science.”

There's something about this line that just kills me. Not sure if it's the "feminist scholar" bit, or calling birthing "sacred".

Or maybe it's just the fact that feminists are opposed to scientists...

DrRagnarok · 2014-08-07T17:43:43+00:00

I've been saying for years that this is the answer to the abortion debate. Especially if we reach a point where fetuses can be transplanted into artificial wombs.

Ultramegasaurus · 2014-08-07T18:00:19+00:00

I don't think our current "pedestalization" of women is based on their reproduction capabilities alone.

dejour · 2014-08-07T18:03:11+00:00

I don't understand the reasoning behind thinking this is misogyny.

It's not like anyone is suggesting that women should be forced to use artificial wombs. It would just be an option.

To me it's like hearing about mining robots and saying that it is misandric because it partially replaces the need for typically male miners.

2014-08-07T21:47:50+00:00

This would be beneficial to women. It would mean that women could continue working, instead of having to take time off because of being pregnant. But apparently something that HELPS WOMEN is misogynistic? What the fuck?

chocoboat · 2014-08-07T23:16:19+00:00

Is “human” still applicable if embryos are not technically bred of a human womb? What about “mother”?

Who wrote this idiotic garbage?

As for suggesting it's misogyny... I don't even see how it's possible to see it that way. That would be like calling sperm donation misandry, because it's depriving the man of getting to have sex with the woman. Complete nonsense.

rg57 · 2014-08-08T03:13:40+00:00

Misogyny, or a step forward in equality, freeing gay couples and single men of any orientation to have kids without being dependent on an individual third party?

I think the risk to the children makes this endeavor unethical, but apparently someone is going to do it anyway. After the inevitable heartbreaking disasters, it will be a great step forward.

yoduh4077 · 2014-08-07T19:32:20+00:00

"Ectogenesis is problematic for the socially conservative and religious, too."

I feel like the subtext here is fearmongering that one day the gub'ment will force you to "grow" your baby, Matrix style. WTF.

edit: forgot to say, thats probably where the idea that this is misogynistic stems from. If we're forcing women to do it, then its fucked up.

AndyAndrophile · 2014-08-07T19:48:23+00:00

Why is it that without even looking at the byline anymore I can now predict with startling accuracy that this profoundly idiotic article and a thousand others like it were written by some newly hired little girl who graduated with an English degree (minor in gender studies no doubt) in the last two years?

Remember when outlets like Time and Newsweek, if not bastions of intellectual scrupulousness, were at least committed to SOME semblance of unbiased, moderate, disinterested reporting? Am I getting old and just misremembering that being the case from 20 years ago, or have these formerly respectable organizations turned to absolute clickbait, hyperbolic, buzzfeedified SHIT since blogging started to get big about 10 years ago.

richardnorth · 2014-08-07T21:30:23+00:00

My random prediction:

1) feminists will manage to slow down development of the technology.

2) despite the slow down, the technology will still eventually be completed.

3) at first, the feminists will manage to convince law-makers that the technology should only be able to be used by women, for women's needs, and that men should never be able to use it.

4) point 3 will go on but tension regarding this sexist ruling will mount until nobody except the cuntiest of feminists will be able to ignore the ridiculousness of excluding men and eventually, after much tumult, men will be able to use it.

dungone · 2014-08-07T23:46:09+00:00

hand over women’s sacred birthing ability to science

But I thought it was the most difficult job on the planet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJrMaFlxOk /s

AlphaWookie · 2014-08-08T00:01:23+00:00

luddite

Ransom_Stoddard · 2014-08-08T02:49:50+00:00

Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so... they will fight this with everything at their disposal like they did (and still do) male contraception and are trying to do with porn and prostitution industries.

They believe that male sexuality and reproduction must be controlled by women.

2014-08-08T03:31:02+00:00

Chivalry is shit.

"Is 'human' still applicable if embryos are not technically bred of a human womb?" WTF?

mantasradzas · 2014-08-08T06:30:30+00:00

The hypocrisy is PALPABLE.

nigglereddit · 2014-08-08T11:35:09+00:00

This question has caused a rift between leading scientists and feminist scholars

HA! HA! HA!

Who cares?

Evolutionary biology has caused a rift between leading scientists and batshit crazy religious fundamentalists but we don't say we should shitcan the whole field because some people are offended.

Please, let them speak. Let them shout their ideas far and wide so that everyone can see how backward and hateful modern feminism is.

2014-08-08T01:26:08+00:00

An article on this was well received over on TwoX. I guess they are more women against feminism.

cum_socks_on_display · 2014-08-08T11:09:07+00:00

Yet again the philosophers and naysayers hold humanity back.

HaberdasherFetishist · 2014-08-19T08:19:36+00:00

Creating a human infant with the correct number of limbs =/= creating an emotionally healthy, properly neurologically developed person.

All the chemical shit that goes on in the womb is absurdly complicated, and we don't know nearly enough about it.

Making the process equal in effectiveness to "normal" pregnancies is going to require a lot of trial and error on human children.

Title	Artificial wombs are misogyny according to Newsweek
Author	eaton80
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Date	August 7, 2014 5:34 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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