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[–]bastardstepchild 212 points213 points214 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Revenge on people who are dead, in fact.
[–][deleted] 96 points97 points98 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
If they want revenge, they should time travel, and not messing up with innocent men like us.
[–]bhullj11 46 points47 points48 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or just not go for revenge at all since it’s their dead great grandmothers who might be owed revenge and not them.
[–]academicRedditor 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thanks to Postmodernism 101. Happy cake day!
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks bro! My first redditversary! I feel blessed for having meeting you all.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men in power are the ones enabling them #removeliberals
[–]Hirudin 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Revenge on people who are dead who, more often than not, didn't actually do what they imagine, in fact.
[–]kaushrah 240 points241 points242 points 6 years ago (39 children) | Copy Link
Absolute power corrupts - no matter the gender, race, color etc. It doesn't matter. This is something left leaning studies/politics seems to have forgotten!
[–]DancePower 43 points44 points45 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Power AND agency. If you only have power but not agency, you'll become Stanislav Petrov.
[–]rborens9 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
Just watched this. Well worth it. Amazing documentary, thank you for sharing!
[–]DancePower 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, Emplemons Never Ever series is the kind of documentary that makes me feel stuff.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Actually yeah, near the end I was feeling some sort of mix between dread, fear, and joy. Was a great video nonetheless and I appreciate the post.
[–]SpaceOpera3029 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Can I ask what the fuck you are talking about
[–]DancePower 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
The video I linked, which can be found in the name Stanislav Petrov, explains this concept, you nincompoop.
[–]NibblyPig4 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't think anyone wants to watch a 41 minute video with a cold opening to understand an internet comment lol
[–]DancePower 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah but you see, many did. Heck, even I did re-watch it. You're just a lazy butthol at this point.
[+]SpaceOpera3029 -8 points-7 points-6 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Not gonna watch a video, thanks for confirming you're full of shit
[–]DancePower -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for confirming for everyone that DID watch the video that YOU'RE full of shit.
[–]SpaceOpera3029 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Nobody did
[–]DancePower -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Check a couple of branches from my original mention you bumbling idiot. People did watch the bloody video, and they liked it. But NOOOO, only YOU count because you're so smart and intellegent!
You're full of shit. Not the fibrous, nice kind that leaves your ass clean, but the kind that somehow manages to stain outside the bowl.
It's exactly like the bloody feminists I have to deal with every bloody time I enter this shithole
[–]SpaceOpera3029 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Check a couple of branches from my original mention
Go back to Insta you fucking girl lmao
[–]DancePower -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The fuck am I supposed to call these things then? Stalks? Roots?
Riversplits?
Not gonna call them threads, I reserve that for 4chan.
You're just throwing insults at this point because it's pretty fucking easy to prove that you're wrong. People DID watch the video, AND they enjoyed it. You're a self-centered cunt, not unlike your usual redditor.
Your average /b/tard is better than you.
[–]The_Best_01 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I heard of that guy, but it was still a very interesting doc, thanks. I think most "world leaders" have probably slightly less power but just a bit more agency than Petrov.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Ah, shit. Someone else fell for the “McCarthyism” propaganda. Disappointing.
[–]DancePower 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The fuck you on about?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
McCarthy didn’t blacklist anyone. Watch the video. It was literal Soviet-sympathizing propaganda that people swallowed hook, line, and sinker.
[–]DancePower 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The fuck you on about2
It's literally a documentary about Stanislav Petrov that I posted, what the fuck does this mccarthy individual have to do with Petrov?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And in the documentary, he talked about McCarthy’s blacklist as if it were an actual thing and not just Siviet propaganda.
Did you watch the video you posted?
ye
I did not, once, hear about any carthy.
Therefore, you would have to point out where in the video this happens.
[–]Kravego 34 points35 points36 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
That's not a left / right thing. That's a human thing.
The right creates the same monsters, they just have different titles. Whether the yoke is made by a corporation or by the government doesn't matter to those who struggle under it.
[–]hill1205 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There will always be a difference between influence and power. Power indicates force and/or authority. Which government has.
Corporations have influence over the wielding of that power.
Which brings us to corruption of government.
So there are actually only two problems here and both are flaws within government. They have the ability to use force as they see fit. And they can sell that power. That isn’t an inherent problem with the corporation.
[–]The_Best_01 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is something that socialists will never understand. At least commies are aware power leads to corruption.
[–]Blutarg 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's absolutely preposterous. Corporations have taken out hits on people, funded death squads--heck, the East India Company had its own army and navy.
[–]hill1205 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn’t say that people in corporations can’t commit crimes.
Of course your example of the East Indi Company proves my point and I thank you for it. All of the activities of this company was under the grant and control of the British government. All they way to the point that the “officers” and executives of this company received British title. This is an example of, actually the example of, mercantilism.
This is exactly what I am referring to when stating the force of government is for sale.
I’m not trying to be mean but this is what they mean when they say a little education is a dangerous thing.
A company doesn’t have the power to force people into to purchase their goods or to be employed by their company.
Not without the force of government behind them. Such as with the East India Co.
[–]hajamieli 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
The right creates the same monsters
Name one. Nazis, if you suggest those are "right", weren't "right" in anything but post-WW2 Soviet propaganda. They were socialists and allies of the Soviet Union against the capitalist west until they declared war on each other. Hitler even declared himself communist until he noticed it wasn't good for support, the populist he was. Antifa fought side-by-side with Hitler's SS troops against the Social Democratic Party's Iron Wall movement until they gained power. Communists of France sided with Hitler and didn't fight back when France was "Liberated". Hitler's people were educated by KGB and their decades longer experiments of death camps and mass descruction of people, and the Soviets continued sending people (including ones who survived Nazi campsu) to their own concentration camps long after WW2.
[–]The_Best_01 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
They were socialists and allies of the Soviet Union against the capitalist west
You mean the same way China is socialist against the capitalist west? Wait sorry, I mean "communism with Chinese characteristics".
[–]hajamieli 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Ah, the old tired "no real communism". Then you must mean the Rogue Khmer in Cambodia by Pol Pot was the real thing then. He was educated by the very Frankfurt school of communists in Europe, and cheered on by such communists and other leftists as you all over the world. Once news about the atrocities done by the book of contemporary communists came up, they were explained away as "capitalist propaganda" and once they no longer could be denied, they tried to forget it. So is that what you mean by real communism?
[–]The_Best_01 -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No, I'm not saying "not real communism", but by definition the Khmer Rouge wasn't communist either due to having an authoritarian centralized power structure.
Also, I'm not a leftist but hey, keep assuming shit about me. People love judging people straight away, don't they?
[–]hajamieli 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Right, so in other words, communists are the most incompetent people ever. It's been tried dozens of times by now, and every time everyone fails to implement it. That, or it truly is impossible to implement. If so, why not try something new for once, such as Sauron's Orc things in Mordor. Seems more realistic, and the books are done by a more talented author as well.
[–]The_Best_01 -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
They're both incredibly competent, as shown by all those regimes, and incompetent since the actual definition is never realized. I would say it probably is impossible to implement.
Mordor seems like an interesting society, but I prefer this one, with all its faults.
[–]hajamieli 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The last ringbearer is a nice fanfic describing how great the Mordor society of Orcs is, and how they had to live in fear of the crazy war-hawk Gandalf and his bloodthirsty elvish allies. It'd be a great example for the communists everywhere to follow and let's say make Sahara livable.
[+]Blutarg -6 points-5 points-4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Saying Nazis were liberal is the political equivalent of being a flat-earther.
[–]hajamieli 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't say they are liberal. Saying communists were/are liberal is just as stupid. I said they were leftist. Left means collectivist; putting the collective ahead of the individuals, right means individualist; rights of the individual first. Liberal/conservative is another axis except maybe to some degree in American politics up to mid/late 2000s. The current leftist American politics are as far from liberal as feminism is from equality between genders.
[–]masterof80smetal 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
THE TRUTH DROPS LIKE A BOMB!
[–]CamilaTab 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I said this exact thing in a subreddit for women and after getting being told I don’t know the struggles of women (even tho I am a women) I was then kicked out and banned from ever posting again 🤙🏼
[–]Rajili 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
TwoXChromosomes? That is a ban-happy echo chamber. What a miserable bunch.
[–]CamilaTab 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s the one haha. They were saying how much of a privileged man I must be 🤷🏻♀️
[–]CoolMintMC 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pathetic, & unfortunately not surprising at all.
Good to see more women who actually care about equality in all regards.
[–]goldietheswagbear97 points 6 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link
looking at the female leaders in history yeah it has totally only been men it's not like queens are a thing
[–]hajamieli 32 points33 points34 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yup, and the female leaders never caused wars and never did anything unethical. (In reality, a much higher proportion of them were war hawks, since their own asses weren't affected, which is one of the reasons people traditionally avoided getting such monsters into power).
[–]Historybuffman 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Kings that declared war were expected to lead and go on campaign with their armies. Or at least send their (normally eldest) son to fight in his stead if he was unable.
Even kings were expected to do their part.
[–]hajamieli 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Indeed, whereas queens had no such obligations.
[–]The_Best_01 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The ultimate example of power with no responsibility.
[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
It strikes me how many women advocate for men's right.
[–]Saitu282 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Gives me hope.
[–]Roar_Im_A_Nice_Bear 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It was so refreshing to have Cassie Jaye's point of view in TRP.
[–]tenchineuro 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like, how many do you see?
[–]hajamieli 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Fewer than women who are against men's rights. That said, there's likely even fewer men for women's rights than against men's rights.
[–]The_Best_01 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nah, men talk about "women's rights" all the time. And I'm not just talking about male feminists.
[–]hajamieli 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sure, but they're even more against men's rights than for women's rights, which is my point.
[–]The_Best_01 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't think they even talk about it much, so I can't really call them against it.
[–]BeeStingsAndHoney 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've been saying it for a while (not that people listen), but that toxic masculinity may not be prevalent now, but if innocent people keep getting lynched by outrage culture... eventually people will crack.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lisa Britton is friggen brilliant. I've recently stumbled upon her on twitter and it's like a breath of fresh air.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She's very smart and educated.
[–]turbulance4 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hopefully she's not just an inverse Titania McGrath
[–]AlienID385325 34 points35 points36 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Nothing better than women putting other women back in their place
[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You need to have a vagina in order to avoid the mysoginist, sexist label.
[–]ToxicOnion 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm also getting away with it by just being gay. Idk how either.
[–]simanimos 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I dunno, in a lot of ways I think gays were probably more persecuted by the status quo than women. I guess that makes you a default ally.
[–]AbysmalDescent 23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link
It's also literally making the assumption that all men think the same way and have no individuality, making the assumption that men in power would not care about women or have their interests at heart(which is couldn't be further from the truth), and making the assumption that those men didn't get those positions through merit(also kind of dismissing the greater expectations placed on men to succeed).
[+]Cutenesskink -13 points-12 points-11 points 6 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link
Dawg have you been paying attention to the male driven anti-woman rhetoric of the current administration and all over the US? Anti women’s autonomy bills being pushed left and right for the past... oh 244 years this country has existed... but also right fucking now. Yeah not all men, we know, but how’s about you not blanket defend the bad ones?
[–]TracyMorganFreeman 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Half of those opposed to abortion are women; they just tend to vote for men to represent that view of theirs.
[–]tenchineuro 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Dawg have you been paying attention to the male driven anti-woman rhetoric of the current administration and all over the US?
Not really, can you give me some examples?
[–]Cutenesskink -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Sure
Access to contraceptives and birth control are anti poverty devices specifically for women. Link
So if contraceptives are anti poverty tools, would it be silly to think that inhibiting contraceptives make it harder for women to get out of poverty? That’s pretty anti woman
Then look all over the US where anti abortion and anti contraceptive laws are still being pushed in 2020 in the name of religious freedoms. Here’s a list of them, and it’s huge: Link
Then look at the president and how he treats women poorly and tell me that doesn’t have an impact on how other people treat women. He’s supposed to be a leader.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
By inhibiting contraceptives you mean not have other people pay for them?
It's funny to me that you see not paying for someone else's birth control as an attack on it.
I mean, you are perfectly able to stop inhibiting women's birth control and pay for it yourself...
[–]Cutenesskink -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you saying you think contraceptives, which directly effect women’s health, don’t fall under the responsibility of health care? Yeah eat shit half the population, your bits are different from mine so why should I pay for your shit?
[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
You mean not providing them for free. Contraceptives are legal and available everywhere.
And I offer any woman the exact same choice they offer men, get it clipped, or keep it zipped.
Then look all over the US where anti abortion and anti contraceptive laws are still being pushed in 2020 in the name of religious freedoms. Here’s a list of them, and it’s huge:
Abortion is not a right, and despite the SC inventing privacy rights in the Penumbra of the Constitution that the NSA has never heard of, it has always been a states rights issue. And that's where it's being hashed out.
Then look at the president and how he treats women poorly and tell me that doesn’t have an impact on how other people treat women.
Examples?
[–]Cutenesskink -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
Contraceptives are related to health and should be covered by health insurance, a paid service. 14% of birth control users take them for medical reasons other than pregnancy prevention, again medical issues.
Why are you glazing over the fact that abortion rights are currently being fought against? It’s a huge deal and it will hurt a lot of women (and children and men) if overturned. And why do you think it should be a state’s right anyhow? It’s a medical service that should be available to whoever needs it. And no I don’t think it should be a state’s rights issue at all. Why do you get to choose what medical procedures are allowed in your state? Have you ever thought of the people born in those states who obviously had no choice in the matter and are kept systemically poor so they can never move, and can’t get an abortion in their state, and are thus even more kept in poverty? It doesn’t effect you, why do you care? “My premium will go to cover stuff that will help poor women, wah”
Examples? You go grab em lol
[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link
Contraceptives are related to health and should be covered by health insurance, a paid service.
If you really think so I suspect you'd at least be aware that male contraceptives are not covered by insurance at all.
Several years ago women across the nation were complaining that viagra was covered by insurance, they said it should not be covered and that woman's contraceptives should be covered instead. They said that ED was not an illness and having sex was a lifestyle choice for a man. Well guess what, if having sex is a lifestyle choice for a man, it is for women as well. They have the option of abstaining or engaging in non-reproductive methods of sex.
14% of birth control users take them for medical reasons other than pregnancy prevention, again medical issues.
Source?
Why are you glazing over the fact that abortion rights are currently being fought against?
I'm telling you that it is not a right, it's one SC decision and it can fall by congressional action or another SC decision. It's not properly a federal issue at all.
It’s a huge deal and it will hurt a lot of women
Let women be on equal footing with men then. It's never a problem if a man is hurt.
And why do you think it should be a state’s right anyhow?
It's not mentioned in the Constitution anywhere, and the Constitution also says...
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Seems simple enough.
And no I don’t think it should be a state’s rights issue at all.
Do you also think the sky should be purple?
Why do you get to choose what medical procedures are allowed in your state?
I don't believe any state is restricting medically indicated abortion, just elective abortion.
Have you ever thought of the people born in those states who obviously had no choice in the matter and are kept systemically poor so they can never move
It happens to men in all states and is not seen as a problem at all. Hell, it's not seen as a problem if the child he's being charged for is not even his.
It doesn’t effect you, why do you care?
You are sadly misinformed.
“My premium will go to cover stuff that will help poor women, wah”
You don't seem to know much about these things at all. Obamacare covers pretty much all woman's services, it does not mandate corresponding men's services at all.
https://www.statnews.com/2017/12/20/men-health-care-debate/
Why men don’t care about the health care debate
A clear provision in the ACA prohibits discrimination “on the basis of race, color, national origin, sex, age, or disability.” But that doesn’t square with reality. Women and girls are covered, mostly for free, for a variety of preventive services, while men and boys are eligible for far fewer preventive services, some of which are also important for maintaining the good health of women and girls.
Is it any wonder that men have disengaged from discussions of health care? Here’s a closer look.
Sexually transmitted infections
Under the ACA, non-pregnant women age 24 and younger, as well as older, high-risk women, can receive free screenings for chlamydia. And all sexually active women can receive free screenings for gonorrhea. Tests for detecting these diseases are equally effective in both sexes, but males aren’t eligible for free screenings. Since chlamydia and gonorrhea are both transmitted sexually, what’s the point of screening only females?
According to the CDC, “Women whose sex partners have not been appropriately treated are at high risk for re-infection.” Besides reducing the painful symptoms that sexually transmitted infections cause in boys and men, screening them could interrupt the cycle of infection. The same is true for oral human papillomavirus. Anti-HPV vaccines exist for both males and females, but females are more likely to get the vaccine. Males, as a result, are 3.6 to six times more likely to be infected with the virus (depending on the strain), which can cause genital warts and several types of cancer.
Annual visits for preventive care
The ACA provides for an excellent, comprehensive annual Well-Woman Visit at no cost. These visits, as defined by law, “include a full checkup, separate from any other visit for sickness or injury,” and “focus on preventive care for women,” including shots (such as flu and pneumonia vaccines), education, counseling (diet, exercise, smoking cessation, etc.), and mental health screenings for depression and suicide risk.
No comparable “Well-Man Visit” is provided, despite the well-documented fact that across all races and ethnicities, men live sicker, significantly shorter lives than women. Most premature deaths are avoidable through preventive care. And there’s little doubt that effective mental health screening could reduce the horrifying statistic that males are four times more likely than females die by suicide.
To prevent premature deaths, boys and men must learn about their own health needs. But that’s unlikely to happen unless the messages come in person from a health professional. Well-man visits would inform men of their health needs and encourage them to become actively engaged in their health. They’ll also give providers the chance to catch problems while they’re still treatable or curable. Prostate cancer screening
Under the ACA, breast cancer screening for women is provided “without charging a copayment or coinsurance,” even for women who haven’t met their deductibles. Screening for prostate cancer — which is the No. 1 cancer in men — isn’t covered at all. Why not?
The risk of developing prostate cancer is much higher for African-American men and veterans exposed to Agent Orange and other chemicals, and more than doubles with a family history of the disease. Routine screening for high-risk men can catch potential prostate cancer earlier, which can prompt earlier treatment (if necessary) and may increase the patient’s lifespan and quality of life.
[–]Cutenesskink 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link
Source
14% use birth control exclusively for non pregnancy related health issues, and 58% use it for both BC and medical reasons, leaving only 42% using exclusively for pregnancy prevention. The pill does SO MUCH MORE for people than prevent pregnancies. Just like some people take cialis for blood pressure/etc. Also people got all worked up about the viagra thing a few years ago specifically to point out how absurd it was that viagra was covered but women’s health issues weren’t. It was a reactionary complaint, to draw attention to the lack of women’s coverage back then.
Sweet, let’s fight for men’s rights too. You’re making it into some weird gender battle when it’s a class struggle for both sexes. You also seem to think the only fairness is both sexes getting the exact same dollar amounts of treatment, which is absurd because they need different care. We should be covering both. Also, men have historically gotten way more attention and study than women in medicine. Did you know that western medicine has mostly ignored women in terms of data and stats and studies until recent decades, and most women still get ignored by old male doctors? Ask actual women you know what their healthcare experiences have been like throughout their lives.
I’m definitely not going through that point by point, but you misunderstand, I’m pro all those things covered by insurance. Men’s wellness checkups, however you think they don’t exist (they do, they’re called checkups), should also be covered. Men’s contraceptives are covered by my insurance—obtained through the healthcare marketplace. I’ve also gotten free sti/std screening my entire life through services like planned parenthood and other free city health services. Anyone can get free screenings in nyc and all over the northeast, it’s a dope service. I’ve also had a prostate cancer screening covered by this insurance, so I’m not sure why you think those aren’t covered.
I also didn’t say abortion was a right. I just said it’s availability helps lift women out of poverty, so it shouldn’t be limited (which also helps men! Gasp! Who do women have families with? Men! Just like lifting men up also lifts women up. We on the same damn team, quit throwing frags at your own team please)
Also “but the constitution” is such a damned cop out response to “we’d like better rights please.” It’s got good shit, but come on dude, 244 years have passed, society is different in ways that it’s originators couldn’t have even imagined (like healthcare), which is why we amend it to modern times. I’m down to make amendments that make sure men are also granted needed services.
Yeah men have lots of problems that are unique to men and lots of problems that overlap with women. Healthcare issues are one of those that overlap, where both could be better.
Get out of here with your gender war and get on the team that’s fighting to improve all lives already
[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
I'm not even sure why contraception is an issue here, it is not being made illegal, it is still available to women who want it, and you yourself claim it's available from Planned Parenthood.
Regarding Hobby Lobby...
So not a single fucking thing is changed regarding availability and coverage of woman's BC, the ACA mandates it, the insurance companies just won't be able charge said companies in the premiums.
There is no issue here.
Also people got all worked up about the viagra thing a few years ago specifically to point out how absurd it was that viagra was covered but women’s health issues weren’t.
Bullshit, they just hate men. I bet you think that everything should be provided for free to women (and only women) just like feminists.
Sweet, let’s fight for men’s rights too.
I see no sign that you know what the issues are, you're too busy virtue signaling that you are a feminist worried to death about woman's issues.
You’re making it into some weird gender battle when it’s a class struggle for both sexes.
I've just been responding to the false-flag woman's issues you inventing to show how evil MRAs are.
Also, men have historically gotten way more attention and study than women in medicine.
Fuck off what that bullshit, all the dangerous trials were done on male prisoners to make sure the drugs would not kill or injure people who mattered and the issues of liability of a pregnant woman takes the drug and it creates birth defects remain to this day. The FDA was hailed as heroes because they were so inefficient that they had not yet approved thalidomide which caused so many birth defects in Europe.
I’m definitely not going through that point by point
I don't think you have any valid points.
Who do women have families with? Men!
Not any more, 8-10% of families in the US and single mother and any man can be kicked out of the family with a casual lie, but his role as a provider will not change.
Also “but the constitution” is such a damned cop out response to “we’d like better rights please.”
The constitution is the sole determinate of what is or is not a right. It's only a cop-out to the ignorant.
Have you read your post? You make some vague mumblings about also fighting for men's rights, as you do nothing but attack men's rights and defend women from things they are not even victims of.
You can't even support men's right's in r/mensrights, you seem to see defending men's rights as attacking women or starting a gender war or somesuch. But you have no such objections to arguing women's issues. Sexist much?
[–]Cutenesskink 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (14 children) | Copy Link
I didn’t attack men’s rights in any way and have only promoted rights for everyone. I’m pro solving all those men’s issues you listed and you aren’t for solving any of women’s issues. Let’s totally work on mental health, men’s isolation, depression, addiction, social expectations, forced gender norms, paternity rights, the draft, prison reform, and other issues that predominantly effect men—but also stop trying to fuck over poor women please. We have the resources to work on all these problems.
I hope youre doing something about these problems other than being angry on a forum. You could be helping young men in big brother or scouts or helping with homeless youth counts (mostly boys) or volunteering with any sort of young men’s program. You clearly feel strongly about the tribulations of men and boys and that’s dope, you could channel that energy awesomely I’m sure.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Revenge for preferential treatment for thousands of years.
[–]Blutarg 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just like if you want half of executives to be women, but don't mind 95% of garbage collectors being men, then you aren't for equality.
[–]leysreverie6 points 6 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm so sick of women thinking they're entitled just because we have uterus
[–]leysreverie 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I just got banned, permanently, from Female Dating Strategy, because of this comment
like wtt?
[–]themolestedsliver 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That sub is quite literal a cesspool so I'd take getting banned from there as a badge of honor
[–]leysreverie 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Am I not allowed to have an objective opinion?
[–]mgtowolf 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not if you want to be a member of the cult lol
[–]mensmod[M] [score hidden] 6 years ago stickied comment (14 children) | Copy Link
OP: In the future, please use a more descriptive title. Had I caught this post earlier, I would have removed it. However, it has garnered enough participation, that removing it now would result in stifling that participation. Never-the-less, for the future, please note that we have a rule regarding titles that requires them to be informative rather than clickbait.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Got it 🙏
[–]musteatbrainz23 points 6 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link
What's the point of that rule if breaking it encouraged discussion. Far more engaging and pithy than "Here's a quote about "equality" masked as revenge."
[+]mensmod -23 points-22 points-21 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Clickbait and low effort/quality posts degrade the quality of a subreddit. We are encouraging people to improve the internet, not make it worse.
We (the mods) aren't really concerned with whether low intelligence, easily manipulatable people dislike the rule.
[–]Homemadeduck102 21 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
That was kinda uncalled for, but ok
[+][deleted] -12 points-11 points-10 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
They’re trying to run a subreddit with MANY people in it.
Give them a break this once.
[–]Homemadeduck102 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not sure what that has to do with unnecessarily telling someone they have low intelligence, but sure
[+]mensmod -11 points-10 points-9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The person asked for the point of the rule. They didn't say that they didn't like the rule.
[–]Ashybashy04 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don’t see how him title degrades the quality of the subreddit but ok..
[–]austin101123 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You don't know what the content is about until after it is posted and you can't search for it later. A title like "Equality, or revenge?" Would be more informative and could be searched for.
[+]mensmod -6 points-5 points-4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Clickbait is used to manipulate people into viewing material that they might not otherwise care to look at simply by playing on their curiosity. "You won't believe what happened next!" or "This is horrible!" are examples of titles that don't explain what the content is in any way, but feeds into weak willed people who are basically vegging on the internet instead of on TV. We believe that this trend is bad for our society, and we don't want to see it on our subreddit.
It is a simple rule - provide a descriptive title for your post. How hard is that?
[–]NibblyPig 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Does reddit not allow mods to edit titles?
[–]mensmod 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
nope
It’s a tweet, I doubt anyone would be too upset over being “clickbaited” to read such a short paragraph.
Yep, feminism is basically revenge against their imagined slights. Sums it up pretty well.
[–]oorakhhye 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
True. With that logic, they should also advocate slavery where Black people own white people slaves.
[–]Gundabadguy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And where Black leaders sold their own people or when Arabs sold black and white slaves.
[–]RobDog101 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Specifically taking revenge for problems you blame your fathers' generation for out on your sons while your fathers' generation cheers on and profits from it.
[–]Svenskbtch 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I reject the narrative of historical oppression of women: gender roles were much more strict, but life was harsh for most people of both genders. Even a medieval king would prefer to be a poor American today for a range of reasons, starting with doubling his life expectancy.
But it is an interesting question to which extent we have an obligation to compensate for the travails of past generations. Most blacks are descendants of slaves that were brought here by force, and that is probably at least a small part of the explanation behind their current socioeconomic status. What is the right thing to do? What about Jews, the victims of one of the three most horrific crimes against humanity the world has seen (apart from Stalin, Mao)? They are socioeconomically far above the US and world average.
[–]Svenskbtch 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In one meeting on gender equality, someone noted that our organisation had been very successful as 6 out of 8 directors are now female. I made the comment "Great. More equality", which I meant facetiously but was taken seriously.
A great example of this phenomenon is the Forums Gender Gap report, which evaluates gender equality based on economic representation, political representation, education, and health. The first two were pretty straightforward, but in the dimensions of education and health the team faced the "problem" that women outperformed men on most indicators. The solution was simple: count these areas as having a gender equality score of 1, rather than having "reverse" gender gaps cancel out gender gaps to the detriment of women.
Although I know this team struggled with these issues and realised the problem, I think this approach is pretty indicative: we simply struggle to see gender equality any other way. The mere thought of extending the logic to men, let alone to treat any systematic problem to the detriment of men as an issue worthy of attention, rubs not only feminists, but most of society, the wrong way.
The results ended up pretty bizarre, with political and economic gender equality in Afghanistan ending up in the low teens, and educational and health equality in the 90s (on a scale from one to 100).
[–]TracyMorganFreeman 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've seen gender equality indices that included maternal mortality rate.
Those indices are largely designed to push pro woman policy, not equality.
[–]PacoBedejo 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Game of Tribalism: Gender Edition
Revenge isn't justice.
Anyone who thinks it is needs to reevaluate their life choices
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So they want men to literally go through the SAME THING? something that they DIDN'T like? Also, people who were adult men before 1920 would all be dead
[–]Jay_Hardy 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Jokes on you, we Germans are still blamed for the Holocaust. Yes, me, a 25 year old is responsible for something that happened 70+ years ago.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's so fucked up. i'm sorry, that shouldn't happen.
Wow. A woman who employed logic and reason... How rare.
[–]kvothethearcane88 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Female dominance would lead us to extinction. Every country would be at war over words and hurt feelings
[–]McFeely_Smackup 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
people who have never experienced oppression advocating discrimination against people who have never perpetuated discrimination, is not revenge. It's sociopathic.
[–]knoxfire 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Literally who is vying for female dominance and why haven't I met them yet.
[–]Svennboii 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Happy cake day
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks. It's been a very productive year for me. And as a present I recieved the support of more than 5k like minded people.
Thank you very much guys :)
[–]salamithenegro 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's stupid also
[–]ScottishGamer1909 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In ones mind revenge and justice can run hand in hand. In reality revenge and justice run in opposite directions.
[–]RAClSM_CEO 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A woman spreading truth, instead of lies? It's rare but very good.
[–]FragmentedFireGaming 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not really, we are just exposed to feminists. Women lie as much as men. This is not a gendered issue
[–][deleted] 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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[–]xttamx 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know deep down inside that is true.
[–]oafsalot 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also collective punishment.
[–]jenovajunkie 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's a reason why we have ethics committees.
[–]majoradajr 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Facts
[–]romulusnr 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I ain't even mad tho
[–]YouArentOwedAnything 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd like to see tweets linked with these posts, so we can share.
[–]DerReudenboy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Gaslighting.
[–]mynameisevan01 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know whether I should upvote this.
[–]chambertlo 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you.
[–]stentorian46 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Equality feminism" is over-simplistic bullshit.
[–]binybeke 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Was really glad this wasn’t a post from r/gatekeeping
[–]Drenghel 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Source: https://twitter.com/LisaBritton/status/1226583002186043393
[–]someguyhere0 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's the same idea with affirmative action.
[–]LegendaryEmu1 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like finland saying its all for gender equality, but most of their government is women?
I mean, its essentially just garbage. women do have a greater in group bias than men do. They know once women are in power, they'll stay there. Equity is not equality.
People who want everyone a fair go, regardless of any circumstances, race, religion, sex, orientation or class, those are the ones that really want equality.
[–]JPPlayer2006 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one is actually innocent
Finally someone who understands
[–][deleted] 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]JcbAzPx 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That sounds like threat enough to me.
[–]killcat 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And sexual harassment, easily enough to derail a career, or discriminatory (more discriminatory) judicial systems, or "equity" pay claims that pay women more for doing less work, discriminatory hiring practices etc etc
[–]DextTG -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you’re fighting for equal gender representation then aren’t you fighting for equality of outcome and not equality of opportunity?
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What they failed to understand is that "equal gender representation" is inconsistent with democracy.
[–]DextTG 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love democracy
[–]Silentpoolman 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Duh that's what every formerly oppressed group wants.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nobody in this sub should be fighting for “equal gender representation”.
Cucked post.
[–]Advanced_Male 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So what should this sub be about
[–]GOSUop 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
check her tweets, shes has been this way for a long time. and even shut down people with facts who go against her.
i will 10/10 build a shrine for her.
[+]AxDeath -14 points-13 points-12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
brilliantly strawmanned
[–]killcat 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you seen the feminist government of Finland?
[+]blinkvana -19 points-18 points-17 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is really dumb because noone actually says that.
This is typical right-wing/mens-rights complaining about things noone actually said.
[–]Jay_Hardy 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Then you haven’t been on Twitter or Tumblr.
[+]RatherNerdy -7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Surely the apex of thought, and where the most important policies and decisions are crafted /s.
Do you hear yourself? You are purposefully looking for something to react to, so that you can cloak your [misogyny, feelings of inferiority, anger] in a "men's right" banner. The number of people you're responding to, getting all up on arms about, is small and likewise looking to provoke a reaction.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What is your point? We see shit like this, we don't like it, we talk about it. What is your point, really?
[–]killcat 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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