I hate what they’ve done to the Boy scouts

Jitterbug2018 · 2024-09-12T10:53:28+00:00

I’ve seen alternative groups like Royal Rangers and Trail Life. The kids seem to enjoy them and they’re for boys only. Girls have a group called American Heritage Girls that keeps them busy as well.

Wheekie · 2024-09-12T10:34:08+00:00

girls : makes own space

boys: ok

boys : makes own space

girls : LEt ME INNNnn

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Different-Product-91 · 2024-09-12T14:17:49+00:00

This is a problem on so many levels. "Equality" means that women must have access to all institutions and facilities men have access to and still have their own "women only" spaces. Effing bigots.

zediroth · 2024-09-12T09:46:23+00:00

They do this with everything. Women want to invade ALL male spaces, then so many have the audacity to whine about trans women entering their spaces.

63daddy · 2024-09-12T14:33:00+00:00

Such “inclusive” policies often only work one way.

If the Girl Scouts aren’t offering what girls want, the answer isn’t to let them into the Boy Scouts, the answer is to fix the Girl Scouts.

This isn’t just about having girls present on trips and activities. It means having female leaders which can be hard to find, it means all sorts of coed trainings need to occur. The result is many troops can’t get leaders of the right sex who have been trained, resulting in canceled activities.

xicougar106 · 2024-09-12T09:55:22+00:00

I sent my Eagle Scout medal to HQ with a protest letter. It was no doubt ignored and almost certainly unread, but the principle matters to me

SarcasticallyCandour · 2024-09-12T15:08:25+00:00

Especially in a time where men are leaving teaching, high divorce, rampant single motherhood etc, boys need contact with men and boys.

This is why ive no sympathy for womens spaces with trans women going into them.

You can also see in schools female teachers who don't like boys setting up girl-only classes, workshops, mentor programmes etc. And excludibg boys, while feminists go after boy programmes. You can see tg6e pure arrogance and hypocrisy of them.

Prof mark perry is a saviour in this regard.

Mindlesslyexploring · 2024-09-12T10:52:22+00:00

Got my Eagle in 1997. Vigil Honor too.

I don’t tell anyone anymore that I spent basically the first 22 years of my life consumed by trying to be the best version of a Boy Scout the organization could create.

It’s really sad to see how far the organization has moved away from what they once were. Just sad.

regrettabletreaty1 · 2024-09-12T17:17:41+00:00

Why would we care about producing better men? Masculinity itself is evil! Except when women behave that way, then they’re a girlboss

Background_End_5067 · 2024-09-12T14:41:18+00:00

Bunch of liberal pukes infiltrated and destroyed a once great organization. I wouldn’t let my 2 boys near that group of idiots at all.

ProofBoysenberry397 · 2024-09-12T12:44:55+00:00

I will never understand why the Girl Scouts didn’t just become a better version of themselves? I thought it was great that each gender got their own space to be whatever they wanted to be.

Rhbgrb · 2024-09-12T13:00:51+00:00

It is sad what happened to the Boy Scouts. People want boys and men to have nothing. But like I've always said, those in charge are to blame for letting women get away with this stuff.

ralphswanson · 2024-09-12T18:51:11+00:00

This shows the real feminist mantra: 'Equality when convenient, special privileges the rest of the time'

Ambitious-Reach-1186 · 2024-09-12T16:19:16+00:00

And the worst part is they don't even want to be there. They only force their way in because they can

TechNerdinEverything · 2024-09-12T10:36:18+00:00

Just tell them your son identifies as a girl modern problems require modern solutions

Baboon_Stew · 2024-09-12T21:24:43+00:00

The Mormon church breaking with BSA was the final nail in the coffin. Probably cost them almost half of their membership.

I live in Utah and every LDS church had a cargo trailer with a troop number painted on it. I can think of 4 or 5 of them with 10 minutes of my home.

amarsh73 · 2024-09-12T23:37:29+00:00

It's sad that boys don't have their own spaces to just be boys. I completely understand that they are completely different organizations with different activities, but taking away from one group to include another doesn't help either.

The girls deserve the same fun and adventure as the boys, but now neither get the full experience.

mhk23 · 2024-09-13T03:15:24+00:00

Double standards. Just like the YMCA and YWCA. Systematic emasculation of men. Sad really.

Women want the rights of men, privileges of being a woman (chivalry) and the accountability of a child.

anillop · 2024-09-12T12:25:43+00:00

Honestly, I don't blame girls for wanting to join Boy Scouts Because the more I learn about Girl Scouts, the more I learn that they just suck as an organization and are just a glorified fundraising operation to sell cookies. No wonder they wanted to get away from that group as fast as possible.

Paulina1104 · 2024-09-12T12:14:44+00:00

Get used to it. Men and boys are not allowed to have their own spaces. Women won't allow it. The feminists would lable it as mysogyny.

dual290x · 2024-09-12T21:38:48+00:00

As a Eagle Scout and former proud member of the Order of the Arrow, I was pissed and left. They won't get another dime from me. I rarely bring it up now a days because I don't want to be associated with it.

Dry_Dimension_4707 · 2024-09-12T18:18:44+00:00

My son and I were just having a conversation about this last night, specifically that there are really no exclusively male spaces. Women are allowed their own spaces, but apparently not men. Make it make sense. Men need to have time with other men, separate from women.

AirSailer · 2024-09-12T15:01:26+00:00

I was an Eagle Scout with palms, Order of the Arrow Vigil, and was a scoutmaster for 15 years, and led a Venture Crew for a decade. All my experience was prior to Scouting opening up to girls.

In Scouting, the girls are in different troops than the boys. So yes, both genders are allowed but not actually together.

Cub Scouts, I believe, have both genders within a pack.

To me Cub Scouts it's not a big deal specifically because it's before puberty. Once boys hit puberty they need a space of their own, if girls are around then they lose focus and everything becomes about the girls. When I was active this was particularly an issue at the high adventure camps when there was female Venture crews around.

CutiePie0023 · 2024-09-12T16:20:15+00:00

As a woman, they have been doing this with EVERY male space. It’s sad.

DrewYetti · 2024-09-13T07:57:36+00:00

Women and girls have female only spaces? That’s fine. Men and boys have male only spaces? That’s bad as it’s not progressive.

Double standards, Hypocrisy, and Bullshit all in one.

2024-09-12T09:45:48+00:00

And they let girls in to the boys scout. Separation between the genders is their goal

michiganstudent1 · 2024-09-12T13:41:05+00:00

As a former Girl Scout, it’s not the same and they should just make it cooler like the stuff the Boy Scouts do. I would have preferred to be a Boy Scout because they did way cooler activities.

Tiny-Fall-4040 · 2024-09-12T19:50:23+00:00

In the moment they include girls in Boy Scouts, it becomes Kid Scouts instead.

Jeepwave13 · 2024-09-13T02:15:42+00:00

That’s National for you, and it’ll never be what it once was. I did my Eagle years ago, as well as Vigil in OA, and was saddened to see the forced change. Boys need space with just other boys, as girls need space with just other girls. The double standards continue to blow my mind.

Suitable_Tomatillo59 · 2024-09-13T21:00:07+00:00

Notice how every Girl Scout Troop is run by White Feminists.

jevvkin · 2024-09-14T00:59:17+00:00

So strange that young boy groups have to include them but girl groups don’t have to include boys 🤔

ShiningSeason · 2024-09-12T12:56:51+00:00

The two groups are not the same. My town wouldn't even have Scouts if it weren't for woman.

Girl Guides focuses on girl power and not every girl child wants that either.

BigPhilip · 2024-09-12T11:51:59+00:00

Based

Ronniebbb · 2024-09-12T17:15:51+00:00

I mean I get the why. Boy scouts were loosing members, alot of girls didn't want to do the cookie stuff and girlie stuff, they wanted to do the more boy activities, it made sense.

I never joined girl scouts because I had zero interest in their activities, I wanted to be outside building things, and doing stuff with nature, getting dirty. Boy things. There was just zero options for me as a kid.

Now if they keep certain things separate so the boys and girls have their own space and some stuff is co-ed I don't have a problem. Let kids do what their interests are.

MusicalMerlin1973 · 2024-09-12T10:49:59+00:00

I know I’m going to get downvoted on this one but…

Sorry. The BSA is screwed. They screwed themselves well before this for multiple reasons. No chance my son was going in to that.

No the Girl Scouts are not an equivalent organization for girls. It’s a freaking glorified home economics group class.

Don’t worry. Alternatives will continue eating bsa’s lunch. Baden Powell association is one. They don’t gaf what you are, all are welcome let’s go scouting!

Do I think we need some men only spaces? Sure. But teaching a love for the outdoors doesn’t need to be one of them. Pretty sure my sister would have joined if she could back in the day.

Newleafto · 2024-09-12T15:48:09+00:00

Hold up, as I understand it, the Boy Scouts of America did this because their membership was declining and they hoped this would add members. They weren’t pressured into it. As for Girl Scouts, they apparently don’t mind having low membership - perhaps they’re just a smaller organization.

However, having an all boys fraternal group is a good thing and perhaps one will be formed.

Proof_Option1386 · 2024-09-12T16:47:42+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/BSA/comments/1cngw3i/bsa_membership_graph_1911_2023/

That's what happens to organizations when membership drops (and drops steeply) over long periods - they start looking for new sources of membership...

Subject_Cable_6753 · 2024-09-18T00:44:18+00:00

Weird. Girls join but girl scouts is ok. Girl can wrestle on boys team but I don't think boys can play volleyball... May e they can.

Life_Sign342 · 2025-03-07T03:01:31+00:00

I know this is an old post but bear with me. I couldn’t seem to spot anyone actually involved in scouting commenting. Girl Scouts started because girls went to a scout rally and asked Baden-Powell for an equivalent organisation.

Where I’m from (UK) initially it was 15-20 year old group that was coed in the 70’s before it filtered down. Scouts have always allowed female scout masters and is seen (at least where I’m from) as a more adventurous option for those who like more physical pursuits.

Girl Guides has always been for women, run by women and hasn’t changed. However the prescribed activities are mostly focused on things like world issues, crafting, baking etc. with a small amount of survival skills. Personally I would have rather done scouts as a child because I got to do the things that guides do at home. However as a leader I have girls who do not get to do crafts or cook etc. at home so they find it really exciting.

ProofBoysenberry397 · 2025-05-03T11:44:09+00:00

As a girl in BSA I joined because I hated girl scouts you could barley do stuff where you did adventuring and my troop barley camped they also wouldn't let me work in advancement by myself,so I personally like it better,their is also boy only troops and girl only troops in the program as well

2024-09-12T12:49:06+00:00

You need to this through private funding - find conservative philanthropists. If you take tax funded groups you cannot make it a male only space. The unfortunate thing is most wealthy philanthropists have made their money and have a mentality stuck in time where they believe an inequality story.

KaramLevi · 2024-09-13T03:38:16+00:00

Male Men weak again. That’s the goal. Crazy thing is… they will let in 100million new non legal immigrants from where ever it’s allowed to SA women… like in Germany and Nordic countries… and then… all us men will look and say “it’s not my job to defend you… fix it yourself”.

It’s sounds cruel… but in practice it’s happening daily and we all watch it and call it PROGRESS.

Weaken the boys… when they grow up… they won’t be able to father families. That’s the goal. A weak America and new world being reordered.

Then what ever is chosen no one can band and agree to fight back. Boom. Project accomplished.

The_Sconionator · 2024-09-13T06:45:56+00:00

I used to think like this until I had a daughter. A daughter who likes outdoorsy shit like camping and hunting and hiking. If she wanted to do scouts I would put her in cub scouts instead of Girl Scouts she doesn’t care to sew and do Girl Scout stuff she’d benefit more from the self reliance skills taught by scouts

VacationNegative4988 · 2024-09-12T17:35:39+00:00

The Boys Scouts haven't lowered their requirements and troops are still all boys and all girls. The way I see it is the girl scouts suck and the boy scouts is one of the best youth programs in the country. Given that it's such a good program why should we deny that to anyone?

jackson222729 · 2024-09-12T13:09:58+00:00

I'm very involved with my children's Cub Scout Pack and I'm fine with the fact that both boys and girls can join. They're not going to change it back and the Girl Scouts will probably merge with Scouting America within the next ten years. Co-Ed scouting has been the norm around the world for decades. Prior to allowing girls into Boy Scouts, the U.S. was the only country that had separate scouting organizations for boys and girls.

thegalli · 2024-09-12T15:00:23+00:00

You are wrong.

The scouting program (formerly called boy scouts USA, but has been called scouting worldwide for years) is the best youth program from making young people into good citizens. Girls deserve access to the program too. There's nothing about the scouting program that requires a penis.

The fact that Girl Scout program still exists has nothing to do with girls being allowed into Scouting usa. They're a different program, and not as good.

PhulHouze · 2024-09-12T10:30:40+00:00

To be fair, cub scouts were experiencing declining enrollment and needed to expand its market.

Girl Scouts is a better-run organization and doesn’t need to enroll boys to survive.

NullableThought · 2024-09-12T13:46:04+00:00

As a trans man I'm glad they are expanding boy scouts to all genders. I really wish I was allowed into boy scouts.

But I don't think boy scouts should cater or even change for girls. I think girls who are into typical "boy" stuff and are attracted to the tradition of boy scouts should be the ones who join. And vice versa for girl scouts. I'm sure there are plenty of little boys who rather make friendship bracelets and sell cookies than tie knots and go camping.

I wish we'd just let kids be kids and let them follow their interests, regardless of gender.

GeneralBS · 2024-09-12T14:10:32+00:00

The fuck.you.on about? They have always been separate.

Title	I hate what they’ve done to the Boy scouts
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