Men Are Obsolete

Rizo24 · 2014-06-03T03:05:34+00:00

What bothers me about articles like this, is the wage gap has long been a sign of female oppression and sexism. When women start earning more than men, it's an accomplishment that society should be proud of.

shoatGow · 2014-06-03T01:44:58+00:00

This seems an odd train of thought but it always comes out this way.

-Women are now equal to men

--Men are, in turn, obsolete

Perhaps it is sensationalized clickbait to play on mens fears of being useless.

turtlesat · 2014-06-03T04:13:43+00:00

"Why don’t these women marry or live with the fathers of their children? As many a woman told me, “He’d be just another mouth to feed.”

So much for having an enjoyable, emotional and intimate relationship with a man, huh?

This shows that for many woman it's not about love, or sex or romance, it's about having a domestic pack mule who brings in the $$, helps raise the kids and cutting the grass.

This woman should have adopted, and then hired domestic help.

mirazatha · 2014-06-03T03:20:58+00:00

im obsolete now? awesome. no more moving heavy things for women just because im a man, no more pressure to be "good enough" for a woman to deign to see me as a possible partner, and no more responsibility to put myself in danger to protect someone else. i can get behind this

2014-06-03T01:19:06+00:00

tldr: Men are failing because we give women much more aid when it comes to everything, and expect men to turn led into gold somehow. The we'll bitch when we find out they cant.

Your_Bacon_Counselor · 2014-06-03T02:10:12+00:00

So is Time magazine. They should just hire Wil Wheaton as senior editor and fold already.

TheCaptinLove · 2014-06-03T04:04:49+00:00

The last paragraph is really quite amusing. It beautifully sums up the 'feminism is good for men' line of thinking.

"Men have used their position as the breadwinner to keep women cloistered in the home to take care of the kids. Now that women are free to enter the workforce men don't have to worry about getting a job and can enjoy staying at home and taking care of the kids."

Irony much?

Just one of many examples of faulty thinking presented in this article.

AceyJuan · 2014-06-03T06:09:20+00:00

Are men literally obsolete? Of course not, and if we had to prove that we could never win. For one thing, we haven’t figured out a way to harvest sperm without them being, you know, alive.

Perhaps I'm over-sensitive. On a scale of 1 to 10, how close is that to wishing all men were dead?

ProjectD13X · 2014-06-03T03:59:53+00:00

"Toronto’s mayor, a shining example of modern manhood is what I would call the canary in the coal mine"

What? In what fucking dimension is Rob Ford a "shining example" of the ideals of manhood? That is possibly one of the most intentionally dumb things I've ever seen put into writing.

sgt_narkstick · 2014-06-03T07:42:04+00:00

I read the first point. I cant even believe this. She says that women are suddenly a majority in the workforce and so now men are useless. So as a man, I'm to believe that as soon as women have any power at all, men become useless? That really helps their cause.....

Also they mention how boys are failing in school. You mean those schools that suspend/expel boys for making "finger guns" and biting their pop-tarts in the shape of a gun? Gee, why would those boys be failing in school?

edit: Oh God I just read the second to last paragraph

I dedicated my book to my son because he is one of those boys who gets in trouble a lot, who thinks the institutions are rigged against him. I see my job as accepting him as he is, and teaching him how to adapt to the world as it is.

Yea, I wonder WHY the sun of someone who writes this kind of shit would think that institutions are rigged against him? His own mother is calling him obsolete and saying that she and other women get to funnel him into whatever kind of mold they want him to be.

SRSLovesGawker · 2014-06-03T06:05:53+00:00

Rob Ford as "A shining example of modern manhood"?

... aaaaaaand I'm done.

Cross_of_Coronado · 2014-06-03T08:19:30+00:00

That Woman, Hanna Rosin, has mastered one thing - twist the truth. She's a real spindoctor.

Lets see:

It’s the end of men because men are failing in the workplace.

So, the article says, that over the last few decades men’s incomes have been slowly declining and women’s have been rising. Feminism tells us, this is a good thing, because it means equality. But, oh noe, it ALSO means that Men are failing. Well are they?

For example: In germany, in skandinavia, its not WOMEN who get Jobs, its the LAW that gets them Jobs. They create quotas for Women. They create Jobs that HAVE to be filled by Women. And if she is one out of 99 contenders AND the least qualified, if she's a Woman, she has the Job. So metaphorically - Men are hammers and jobs are nails. But Men are obsolete, because we have now decided to use towels to get the nails into the wall. Does not make sense? Correct, it doesn't.

Women are occupying positions of power that were once totally closed off to them.

What IS this? Newspeak? "Lets make laws to put women in powerful positons. HEY Y'ALL, look! there are more wome in powerful positions! What? those women are failing? That is the patriarchy! Let us put more women in powerful positions" Why yes, this, is, Newspeak. It really is. And the concept is fucked up.

For the first time in history women all over the world are marrying down, meaning marrying men with worse prospects than they have. We have a new global type, for example, called the alpha wife, a woman who makes more money than her husband or boyfriend.

Impressive. Let's keep this quote in mind for a moment and have a look down to see something else, Hanna wants to tell us.

The working class feels the end of men the most, as men lose their jobs and lose their will to be fathers, and women do everything alone [...] Why don’t these women marry or live with the fathers of their children? As many a woman told me, “He’d be just another mouth to feed.

Whow... That is one paradoxon if ever I saw one. Women ALL over the world are marrying down, because Men are failing, but Women ALL over the world can not marry down, because such a Man ist just another mouth to feed. So they marry, but they don't marry. But we have to pretend this make sense. Newspeak again.

This is totally fucked up, makes no sense and she's contradicting herself. Second: We've had women, who were staying at home and were - if you will - "just another mouth to feed" for centuries and we never complaint. But a Man who stays at home is - well of course - just another mouth to feed". Fucking stone-cold. A

Do you realize who she's playing with different statements and ideas here? She forces parts of the puzzle together and says: This! Look at this! This is how it is and always was ment to be.

Women are becoming more sexually confident, and something Camille Paglia has been waiting for, more aggressive and violent in both good ways and bad — that is, going to war.

Hanna, nah, just nah, seriously, stop it! Women are less likely to be put behind bars for the SAME crime and just have a look - i dare you, i dare you, i double dare you - look at the casulties of each war. Yes, I admit, Women are allowed to play soldiers these days, but they are not allowed to be brought home in a coffin with the flag on top of it. War Casulties are Male. A clear indication that Men are weak, hu? Men die in Wars, Women don't?

And a little treat in the end: This is a foto of Hanna Rosin and her Husband:

http://hannarosin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/h5.jpeg

Enjoy the irony of a smiling man, with a sign in the background, put there by his wife, that says "The End of Men".

DeltaSixActual · 2014-06-03T04:32:04+00:00

Look what happens to communities where "men are obsolete." Come'on over and venture into East Oakland, or South Los Angeles. Good luck with that.

I_fight_demons · 2014-06-03T07:36:08+00:00

The bizarre part is to hear her gleefully relishing putting men down for being men and then try to figure out what's going on when she attempts to make this some happy post-gender deconstruction thing.

Revoran · 2014-06-03T07:53:23+00:00

She mentions lots of facts here that are legitimate issues that effect men.

And then ... says they are good things? I think, maybe?

It's hard to gauge what the point she's making is.

Emfuser · 2014-06-03T08:03:49+00:00

I must be in the minority of people who saw Hanna Rosin and promptly clicked the back button. Why would I even bother to read any of her bigoted trash?

dopp2 · 2014-06-03T09:01:23+00:00

Obsolete does not mean worthless. It means outmoded. The twin combustion engine made the bicycle obsolete but that doesn’t mean we hate the bicycle. We just use it the way we want to, while recognizing the necessity of efficiency and change. We don’t have to turn men into eunuchs. We can keep whatever we like about manhood but adjust the parts of the definition that are keeping men back.

Those people are dangerous! They will treat us the same way as other 'obsolete' races.

Grubnar · 2014-06-03T10:39:23+00:00

In nearly every country, on all but one continent, women are getting 60 percent of college degrees, which is what you need to succeed these days.

Bwahahahahahaha!

I_FUCK_UP_RECIPES · 2014-06-03T13:32:07+00:00

Didn't even need to click to know it was a Hanna Rosin shock piece. This is just her marketing.

Do keep in mind that she uses this kind of hyperbole to draw attention to her work which is actually very MRA friendly. In her AMA she indicated she thinks a men's movement is necessary to confront the social ills that disproportionately impact men. Her books have consistently drawn light to men's issues and are unpopular among many 'pop feminists' who were expecting a girl power circlejerk for this reason.

DianaDewAsmr · 2014-06-03T17:42:43+00:00

"Once upon a time, the men ventured out to hunt bison while the women stayed behind to dust the cave, gather berries and raise the very hairy children. This is the story we have told ourselves for tens of thousands of years to explain why men rule the world while women are relegated to being the second sex" If raising children is being "relegated" women could start taking high risk jobs which pay averagely (most of which are covered by men) - I am sure men would be super happy to manage the house's finances and grow kids.

EDIT TO ADD: "FIVE: It’s the end of men because men, too, are now obsessed with their body hair." So point 5 should be the most important. We are talking about workplace, school, wages... and the thing this person cares most about it body hair??? What a shallow woman.

tallwheel · 2014-06-03T08:11:59+00:00

I am? Can I trade in my old obsolete male body for a state-of-the-art female model?

magnora2 · 2014-06-03T12:07:04+00:00

Imagine if it said "Women are obsolete."

People should get pissed at this stupid article. If it was about women, written by a man, there would probably be an entire hashtag campaign in reaction. I have a feeling this will just get glossed over, no big deal. THAT is what really pisses me off.

PerniciousOne · 2014-06-03T14:08:09+00:00

Missing important parts of this theory, with the end of men, all the conveniences of modern life are provided by them. Food, shelter, and security are all provided by men. Removing incentives and demonizing men will lead to more men refusing to shackle up to this outcome, then the men will just watch as Rome burns.

MrFlesh · 2014-06-03T17:26:52+00:00

This shit is hilarious....Women are taking over with their psychology, journalism, teaching, and nursing degrees...lol....meanwhile if the garbage men all disappeared from the planet we are fucked within a week.

Title	Men Are Obsolete
Author	MortifiedCucumber
Upvotes	38
Comments	61
Date	June 3, 2014 1:12 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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