Men can’t love?

worldadvisor · 2022-09-05T06:10:59+00:00

An ignorant statement as well as sexist. Besides, "what is a man?" LOL

Your_Agenda_Sucks · 2022-09-05T07:09:26+00:00

Well... three men with the common characteristic of having dated that single woman.

Women are not particularly good with cause and effect when it doesn't suit their victim-hood narrative.

greysterguy · 2022-09-05T12:52:04+00:00

My best friend's exes have all either used him or cheated on him. Does that mean women can't love?

Aimless-Nomad · 2022-09-05T08:45:29+00:00

If this old TFM video is anything to go by, it is actually women who can't, don't or won't love.

Samniss_Arandeen · 2022-09-05T10:42:25+00:00

“I don’t believe men actually truly and honestly love"

Means : "I don’t believe that the men I pick and date can actually truly and honestly love”

But it somehow ends up being the mens fault.

annihilate_CR · 2022-09-05T12:31:04+00:00

Well u see, when women have bad experiences with men and complain about it, it’s considered the men’s fault for being not good enough. However when men have bad experiences with women, it’s not the woman’s fault tho.

infinitofluxo · 2022-09-05T12:50:19+00:00

Obviously there are plenty of people in both genders that don't romantically love.

But nowadays it is easy to say that hypergamy leads a lot more women to situations they don't truly love men, than men are being lead to.

Men don't have that built in mechanism to monkey branch for survival, that is why honor and loyalty are common requirements in male relationships, we are just more inclined to this, we may give up our safety to keep our word while women will do anything to survive including desert their partner and leave with the children and find a new man.

A good example is how many women will willingly sleep with the enemy during war occupations, it is all about surviving and getting what they want, while men usually don't have this option, they tend to sink with the boat.

throwaway3589052 · 2022-09-05T06:31:22+00:00

I would feel so bad for any man that loves a woman who agrees with this sentiment.

I'm gay and have been in a relationship with a very masculine guy for 10 years. We are engaged. Feminist would hate him for his lack of femininity. But I experience his gentle side. The side of him that wants to be loved. The side of him that wants to feel cared about. I can't imagine the pain it would cost him to not only deprive him of that, but also to dehumanize him. It really makes me hate feminists.

r7anubis · 2022-09-05T07:29:25+00:00

So there is no Man who loves his friends, or himself, or his parents. Nice joke.

OldLace300 · 2022-09-05T07:32:50+00:00

Tell that to all the women who filed for divorce and quit. That essentially didn’t mean what they said when they took their vows….

deathzero021 · 2022-09-05T07:15:13+00:00

That's rich, considering women are generally loved unconditionally, they don't really need to prove anything or do anything to receive a man's affection. Yet a man is only "loved" for his ability to provide and protect.

Just take a look at how high divorce rates are for older couples, even after being married 20+ years, you think it's all good, but when the man loses his job due to disability or injury, you see the wife's feelings change real fast towards her husband.

I will be fair at least and say that often women are loved for their looks more than any other trait they may have, which is a bit dehumanizing as well, and I think most women will feel the effects of this once they get older and the looks fade, or they gain weight.

Yeah we all got something we need to work on. But saying men can't love is just extremely ignorant. Let's see that woman say that to her father, if she has one.

tisseenschande · 2022-09-05T13:15:28+00:00

Nothing is as cold and calculating as a woman can be.

EvidencePlz · 2022-09-05T07:24:57+00:00

What they said is categorically untrue. However, also keep in mind that different people define love in different ways.

DecimatingDarkDeceit · 2022-09-05T13:58:57+00:00

According to science : woman cheat more ! ...so; yeah. We can conclude whose has the ability of love ( more )

ConestogaCreek · 2022-09-05T16:58:37+00:00

You know how some people are w their dogs the minute they get old or sick they just drop them off at a shelter or leave on the side of the road? That is how women are with men the minute he fails to live up 100% to what they expect or they find something better.

dw87190 · 2022-09-05T19:24:10+00:00

Women: Abandon a partner or spouse just because he's broke

Women: "Men can't be raped, she didn't rape you"

Women: "We're the minority victims of violent crime but we're still paranoid about going outside at night

Women: Post memes about a husband falling down the stands getting excited about a life insurance payout

Women: "Comparing men to animals is too kind. Men are walking dildos"

Also women: Men can't actually and truly love

May097 · 2022-09-05T09:13:21+00:00

Ohh well using three men as a badis to justify test of the 3.5 billion. Well i guess then i should start comparing every woman to prostitutes

International_Risk82 · 2022-09-05T10:10:15+00:00

That's rich coming from women who not only initiate about 70-80% of all divorces, but are also generally infamous for their double standards, hypergamous ideals, and tendency to fuck over their former SO in court and take as much of their possessions as humanly and legaly possible.

PactScharp · 2022-09-05T12:41:05+00:00

If she is constantly in toxic relationships that don't work out, guess who is the constant factor? SHE is. I assure you, those "men" weren't the problem.

AmmaronsRepository · 2022-09-05T13:18:37+00:00

Sounds more like projection.

DoomNukemBlood3D · 2022-09-05T14:46:29+00:00

If that is the case then all women can't drive, and if they do, they don't do it well.

There is more statistics backing this up than men not being able to love.

michaelpaoli · 2022-09-05T09:55:30+00:00

don’t believe men actually truly and honestly love

<cough> Uhm, yeah, ... do they also believe the Earth is flat?

Yeah, some people are ignorant dodoheads.

_BeefJerk · 2022-09-05T14:04:00+00:00

Is this news? I was on a hike yesterday and had a small group of women all agree that men are emotionally stunted and don't progress beyond the age of eight. This soft bigotry is everywhere.

NightRespawn · 2022-09-05T15:02:45+00:00

It’s complicated because people assume past experiences dictate future events, and most of the time that’s a correct path of logic. So I don’t blame people for generalizing relationship dynamics when it’s a personal struggle they’ve had, it’s like getting upset with someone who’s crying from a physical injury.. Have some compassion and understand they’re talking from weakness not authority like it might seem.

I can love just like any human has the capacity for it, I’m just jaded by my past and I don’t hold relationships at a high value now. I’ve got bigger things to worry about, and having to juggle the emotional stability of another person with mine is asking for more trouble.

dpv20 · 2022-09-05T16:01:34+00:00

is easier to blame an entire gender rather than admiting is her own fault

blackdahlialady · 2022-09-05T18:31:42+00:00

I find that ridiculous. I was with a narcissist and if you guys don't know, it is common for them to lack empathy and not really be able to feel love like the rest of us do. That being said, I know that not all men are that way. I get so sick and tired of seeing these women who are like, a few men burned me so that means that all of them are bad. This person did XYZ to me so that must mean they're all going to do that to me.

Either some people are just traumatized beyond wanting to be helped or they're just biased because a few men burned them. I'm still able to think objectively enough to know that not all men are the same way. I don't understand how they come to this conclusion. Yet when I say this, I get called a pick me girl. That's fine, they can think whatever they want.

I feel like women who do this are jealous of us women who know how to be nice and can actually sustain a relationship. They're angry and bitter at us because they haven't learned the life skills and the introspection that it takes to make a relationship last. So instead of taking accountability, they take it out on us.

Barring an abusive relationship, it seems that some of them don't want to take accountability and look inward for the ways that they contributed to the relationship breaking down. No, it's all about what the men did to them. Anybody who thinks like that isn't ready for a relationship anyway.

If you can't be self reflective and own up to your mistakes and work through them with your partner, you're not ready. They've on the work for you guys, they've taken themselves out of the dating pool. It just sucks that you have to deal with their shitty attitude because of the ways that they contributed to breakups but don't want to acknowledge this.

I find that people like this live in constant victim mode and blame everybody for everything that goes wrong in their lives and again, people like that do not belong in relationships. They're not ready. Sorry for that tangent but it's just that I see it everyday and I can't wrap my head around why they think like this.

Edit: I felt it was important to add that the person who made that post about how men supposedly don't really love has some work to do. Sure, they've been unlucky and love but at the same time, it's something about them that's making them attract those kinds of people. They need to do the work to get to the root of what it is that's causing them to attract those kinds of people.

It's not right to blame it on an entire gender just because a few were bad. I don't know whether they will actually get the help or not but they seem to be stuck in victim mode. That or they just don't realize that they have to go to therapy and do this work. Either way I think it's sad that people just automatically want to blame an entire gender of people because a few people have hurt them.

They don't look at their part in it. It's just easier to point the finger at everyone else. They're definitely not ready and that's fine but they shouldn't go blaming people who had nothing to do with their situation.

AbysmalDescent · 2022-09-05T18:38:43+00:00

Given the insane amount of bullshit that men have done and endured for women throughout entirety of human history, I can't understand how anyone could possibly come to that conclusion. Most men are far more romantic, and far less concerned with putting up a show of status, materialism and self-indulgence. Most men love in a manner that is far less conditional and considerably truer. Most men show considerably more loyalty, passion and devotion.

Women just sit back, making very little effort and showing little to no initiative, and expect the world to revolve around them. Women cannot even initiate, pay their own way to be present and consider themselves a prize to be won, because they just perceive potential suitors as beneath them. If anything, I think history has demonstrated that out of the two genders, it is women who are less capable of love.

The problem is, and always has been, that women pedestalize men who are incapable of love, and then wonder why their pedestalization, which they believe to be love, is not rewarded with commitment. The problem is a major lack of basic human decency and empathy for the common man, and a lack of appreciation for the love and devotion that men would otherwise give those women freely.

eldred2 · 2022-09-05T21:25:45+00:00

When someone makes that claim, they are projecting.

NeoVidia · 2022-09-05T21:31:12+00:00

Imagine outing yourself so badly that you admit no one loves you.

Ferbuggity · 2022-09-06T01:52:52+00:00

I see men do ---exactly the same thing--- in here, day in and day out.

Hurt people say hurtful things, that's life.

odysseytree · 2022-09-05T08:35:45+00:00

Generalization of men is the base foundation of feminists.

xNOM · 2022-09-05T09:03:58+00:00

“I don’t believe men actually truly and honestly love” = "I thought he was going to behave like a woman with a penis, but he didn't"

Sheer narcissism and low understanding of men. These people think men are here to be their girlfriends. We're not. We're here to help you deal with your incompetence with the physical world.

Black-Patrick · 2022-09-05T13:23:20+00:00

That’s like saying cats don’t show affection.

Zenia_neow · 2022-09-05T16:31:35+00:00

Well, many women seem to have the impression that men don't have feelings based on the fact men seem to have difficulty expressing emotions. The issue is most men don't feel safe expressing them self.

On the other hand the internet has a way of boosting extremes. Hence most women buy into certain online male figures who claim they proudly only hang out with women for sex and its normal for men to cheat on the women they love. It's not like this content doesn't make its way into women's social media feeds, and these videos are often shared by feminazi groups to unsuspecting young women as proof that men shouldn't be given any sympathy.

meowerguy · 2022-09-05T17:52:29+00:00

I've never seen a man I know that isn't sacrificing which is the most thing worth of love. Men usually is chosen for good traits to raise and protect a family, so if someone says men can't love this can't be true unless you're angry teenager feminist -that I wish your mood stays that forever- or you're picked the wrong one.

the over-generalization and crying for everything is also damaging for that asshole that shares these thoughts like have a life!

keine789 · 2022-09-06T01:02:31+00:00

its projecting

Icehonesty · 2022-09-05T22:44:21+00:00

If anything, I think it’s more true to say that women can’t love.

Algoresball · 2022-09-05T17:25:23+00:00

I was listening to a Star Trek podcast and one of the co host randomly said “as my therapist told me, men don’t really feel love”. It’s absolutely insane what some of these people think

Orwellisnow · 2022-09-05T17:28:45+00:00

Love is a subjective term these days. To a lot of people of both sexes I’m sure the other doesn’t know how to “love” the way they define it. It’s too bad their definition is materialistic garbage and a “I’m in it only until I find something better?” mentality.

Rainbow_Golem · 2022-09-05T20:53:03+00:00

It probably has a lot to do with how the reality of sexual worth is so established yet ppl pretend it doesn't exist. so people date someone ideally a little better looking than they'd normally date, a little better everything good. so you have women trying to make a relationship work with less interested men. big mystery they fail all the time. the reason why I mention women doing it because I don't think it's that possible to do the other way around right now at least with modern sentiments

Handle-me-timber · 2022-09-06T00:46:33+00:00

That’s because men and women love entirely different than women. They want you to love them like they love you, but when you do, they fall out of love. Just because people wanna generalize doesn’t effect us, we will love how we love and they can remain not empathetic while claiming to be an “empath.” 😂

narfywoogles · 2022-09-06T01:39:47+00:00

Gee what’s the common variable with all of those?

Mrky859 · 2022-09-06T11:57:02+00:00

That's how it usually works with women a whole gender suffers because of one or two men

Boxisteph · 2022-10-22T17:16:12+00:00

"Men can't love like women" is fair

Mens primary love hormone is vasopressin and women's is oxytocin. Men make oxytocin in response to hugs, sex, and other positive bonding experiences, psycological and physical. However testosterone down regulates the production of oxytocin so its something men feel more as they get older or in situations like having a baby, where their oestrogen becomes higher naturally and oestrogen down regulates the testosterone. Which is why many men say things like " i didnt know what love was untill I had my child" often whilst standing next to their wives. Even then, their oxytocin never comes close to a woman's levels, in the same way a woman's testosterone never comes close to a mans.

So saying men can love like women is like saying women get (sexually) thirsty like men do.

The next question is, "if vasopressin is men's love hormone, what sort of love is that?" Often more similar to a trauma bond sort of love.

Boxisteph · 2022-12-01T17:45:43+00:00

It's likely that men cant love, at least not like women.

Testosterone suppresses the production of oxytocin which is the main female love hormone. When men become fathers their oestrogen rockets which suppresses their testosterone and they bond with baby through increased oxytocin. This doesn't happen when they bond with their girlfriends.

When men get older their testosterone naturally decreases and their oxytocin levels are generally higher so an older version of the man is more likely to be able to love but levels vary.

A lot of the time it's safe to say that a man 'in love' is sexually obsessed, co-dependent or drowning in general lust but there will be low - T men that prove the rule.

Title	Men can’t love?
Author	TheRealGameDude
Upvotes	206
Comments	83
Date	September 5, 2022 5:57 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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