Men: The Artificial Minority

RoryTate · 2023-08-10T15:34:05+00:00

The truly frustrating part is summed up in the seventh image you present, where we see so many causes of death that are completely preventable. Yet nothing is done to save men's lives. It is rather eye-opening to realize that physical life and death for men is a much lower priority than, say, online safety for other more important groups.

TheTinMenBlog · 2023-08-10T13:34:06+00:00

People say women are a minority; but in fact, it is men who are the smaller group.

More interestingly, men are not born as a minority – as for every 100 female births there are actually 105 male births.

But this male surplus doesn’t stay for long, as over the course of a life time, the number of men is slowly eroded away until the sex ratio shifts.

Yup, in adulthood there are only 97 American men for every 100 women.

So what happened?

Why do men experience higher mortality rates in every age group, and have an overall death rate 1.4 times higher than women?

Why has a problem, so large it literally alters the tectonics of a nation’s population, been so readily ignored?

Why are men’s higher mortality rates so often waved of with, “well that’s just the way it is!”

Perhaps… men are not the ubiquitously privileged gender you’ll hear described, but the disposable one?

I mean isn’t early death a bit more deserving of advocacy and investigation than women having too few pockets, or Babie’s super cool day out?

Are the solutions to men’s issues more serious and complex than social media coddling, and meagre calls for “talk” and male tears?

What about men’s early death?

How do we save our men and boys?

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US Death Rate

Population reference bureau

NIH Funding

Men Die Young: New Scientist

Images by Hu Chen, Ben Sweet, MT Elglasseur

True-Lychee · 2023-08-10T15:09:31+00:00

But reddit told me women's medical issues are ignored and all the research money goes to men's issues!

Billmacia · 2023-08-10T15:06:10+00:00

I'm gonna say it: Women aren't raised and educated to care about men. And society never care about men.

Male are human-doing and female are human-being.

Men need to provide and shut up, that the mentality of society.

How can we change that?

MotCADK · 2023-08-10T15:47:48+00:00

Systemic/Institutional x-isms tends to be based on outcomes where disparity is observed.

Within health, there seems to be strong systemic sexism - towards men.

Yet I often hear women's health issues are under funded and anecdotal reports of men being taken more seriously when going to the doctor.

Case and point, https://shoppersfoundation.ca/

Because of gender inequities, women continue to face barriers in many aspects of their lives.

When you consider social, cultural and power dynamics, women face significant barriers that restrict them from equitable and inclusive care.

This is a Canadian pharmacy that solicits donations towards women's health.

RotoDog · 2023-08-10T21:51:01+00:00

“If you could match male death rates to female, you’d save more lives than cancer”

That’s actually pretty staggering. I never heard it put in those terms.

Angryasfk · 2023-08-11T03:18:52+00:00

But but but it’s women’s Heath that’s “underfunded” and not taken seriously. I mean feminists keep claiming that. They wouldn’t lie now, would they?????? (/s)

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-08-10T14:40:10+00:00

Men die younger. This fact has been known for some time. My genetics textbook claimed a 1.07 to 1 ratio. But the ratio is not uniform worldwide.

DecimatingDarkDeceit · 2023-08-10T21:39:04+00:00

This is one of the most well informative schematics out there ! Great work and application

NotBaron · 2023-08-11T04:20:02+00:00

I want a feminazi to answer me how this is an elaborate plan by the patriarchy to control and oppress women.

I can totally see that happening

Acousmetre78 · 2023-08-11T16:37:36+00:00

Feminists are masturbating reading this

walterwallcarpet · 2023-08-10T14:04:55+00:00

Early death of late adolescent / young adult males is due to the risks they take in attempting to attract women.

Late male deaths are due to the lifetime stresses in fulfilling the demands of the women they've attracted.

The interim suicides are due to a lifetime of women ignoring male problems.

Delicious-Agency-824 · 2023-08-10T17:05:03+00:00

Men hate each other more. We compete more. We take risks more.

And government spending always favor women. Including those we don't fuck.

I wonder why

It's easy to blame misandry.

Men vote for welfare less than women and tend to want less government.

I wonder if there is some scientific explanation on this and why research money go to women?

Infinite-Cold-2516 · 2023-08-10T19:51:11+00:00

This was very well put together, nice

C0sm1cB3ar · 2023-08-11T12:04:20+00:00

Excellent post OP 👏

That_Permission5911 · 2023-08-11T14:33:32+00:00

i saw on ovarit they were talking shit about thetinmen. and i had no idea what it was. thank you for this. i see it is a platform that cares about me and is helping men and boys and spreading awareness of good and important things.

let it be known that there is an army of radfems that absolutely hate it.

AllGearedUp · 2023-08-10T15:50:46+00:00

This is crazy

TheWinterNights · 2023-08-10T17:48:53+00:00

"who will save our men and boys?"

Real talk.

You know damn well it won't be women. No - we are not doing the not-all-women thing today - that is a given and works for all genders in every situation, but outside of lala-land for everyone who happened to had a run in with actual life, you know this isn't happening. I see plenty of men protesting for womens rights, champion all kind of causes, run charities for them, suggest and fight for laws for them, and particiapte in their issues. Yes probably more women than men at least in some of those areas, but way more than not-all-man kind of numbers.

I have never seen women organize anti-draft demos, protest against any of the numbers like work place accidents, male suicide attempts or anything of the like.

No, acknowledging this does not mean you hate women, let alone that you have to or should be bitter, resentful or anything else. But this is reality on large societal scales at the moment.

This leaves you with men to tackle this.

Right out of the gates - real talk again. Part of them are out. The one that are all in on the whole man-bad thing won't do anything. The men that you other men as competition won't do anything either. The super-wannabe-tough-y-boys-don't-cry-man-just-take-it crowd isn't coming either (this is especially prevalent on people older that haven't experienced the social realities today. They didn't deal with large scale social media organized censorship, dating-app generations, and all the other stuff. Not sure, but I tend towards for some reason I don't blame them).

So who is left?

Well you. That is who is left. This one is years of from having a chance. It is all early days, it is all grass roots, so do what you can.

Do not be obnoxious, but if you can, and if someone asks, help them be educated. Be rational, but open, be calm. It won't do much right away. But let me put it like this. That person that got a new perspective from you, he will now know there could be more, and that may just save him.

But don't burn yourself out. Truth be told, you are looking at large numbers of people that have year long programs rattle into their head that tell them what it should be. No one. And I mean no one that eventually started to see problems and came to a more fair and actually equality oriented thinking picked that up on the first talk or video.

Be there, be an open book, do what needs to be done.

One day, someone might not end it, might not jump, might not break, because you left them some tools and a map in their head.

pm_me_your_buttbulge · 2023-08-10T15:54:29+00:00

I feel like we need to talk about the use of the word 'minority' here.

Candid_Poetry_8114 · 2023-08-11T00:26:22+00:00

Men are really trying

mllhild · 2023-08-11T10:19:06+00:00

If you get mens death rate to the same as women you dont have men anymore, you have a bunch of sissies. We die more because we are more aggressive and reckless in the face of danger.

FoolioTheGreat · 2023-08-10T18:40:05+00:00

Your slide about mental health research is very misleading and misinformed.

The NIH does not spend double on womens mental health. As noted, the majority of spending goes to help both genders. Per the suicide stat, if you factor in total spending, the difference is just 8%.

There is also a reason why money is given more to womens health research specifically.

Statistically, women are more depressed than men and attempt suicide more often. So it makes sense to invest more in this demographic. Ofcourse these numbers are probably skewed by men not reporting or seeking treatment. But a government agency has to go where there is smoke, otherwise people will question their spending.
There is a historical and current male bias in health research, to this day. It is well documented that most research is conducted on primarily male patients. So a lot of that equal funding is likely going to male specific research in most cases.

R3DACTED- · 2023-08-11T22:26:00+00:00

I am wondering when the statistics for the birth rates and death rates were gathered, because if they were gathered at the same time, then the statistic would have a lot of flaws, you want to gather the birth rates first, then wait, probably around the average length of a person's life, and then find the death rates, that way it's more likely the same demographic that was in the birth statistics, although if you have a lot of free time you could get the birth statistic and then wait past the longest time anyone's lived, and find the death records of each person from the study and use those statistics, although that would violate anonymity, which is generally extremely important when it comes to statistics and surveys.

estebanforwa · 2023-08-12T20:11:06+00:00

Most suicide victims can be found between 15 to 44 age.

Title	Men: The Artificial Minority
Author	TheTinMenBlog
Upvotes	737
Comments	90
Date	August 10, 2023 1:34 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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