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USA: Ohio man, 83, is acquitted of his wife's murder after spending 45 YEARS in prison: 'This is America. How could my fellow man treat me like this?'

furchfur

October 28, 2021
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10137597/Jury-acquits-man-83-imprisoned-45-years-wifes-death.html
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Title USA: Ohio man, 83, is acquitted of his wife's murder after spending 45 YEARS in prison: 'This is America. How could my fellow man treat me like this?'
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furchfur

Upvotes 919
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Date October 28, 2021 6:14 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]skgody 184 points185 points186 points 4 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

Retarded legal system.

[–]pfizerface 65 points66 points67 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Every crime is like a life sentence.

Land of the fr.... Oh wait, they hold half the world's prison population

[–]KendrickMaynard 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jim Jefferies: "So statically...in the land of the free...you have the least amount of free people."

[–]skgody 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Modern slavery.

[–]TheDwiin 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

yeah, we need to reform the entire legal system, including Police, both Criminal and Civil Courts (this includes family court,) as well as a refocus on prisons to A: outlaw for profit prisons, and B: put a focus on rehabilitating prisoners instead of just using it as a punishment, and have social programs outside of prison to help recently reformed prisoners phase back into civilian life. There are some local programs like that, but IIRC there is no federal program, and most red states just release the prisoner, and they are on their own immediately.

[–]LilMagil214 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Someone made the comment about police, firemen resigning rather than get the vaccination.... said that maybe this IS "police reform." Quitters could be the police force that needs to go.

[–]skgody 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, it could be an indication of people within the government system who maybe shouldn’t be there.

[–]grimreefer213 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s not police reform that’s authoritarianism, weeding out people who don’t color inside the lines. Yeah let’s fire half of the police, military, firefighters, health care workers, truck drivers, anyone not getting the vax, let’s retard our economy and supply chain even more because we insist on forcing people to get shot up with drugs. Don’t you think health care workers have been barraged with enough propaganda that they can make their own decisions? People not getting the covid vaccines are not all flat-earthers, trumpers and “conspiracy theorists”, most likely they’re intelligent people making a medical decision for themselves not to get the shot. But in the ‘land of the free’ you don’t have the right to your own bodily autonomy, you are forced to comply with billionaire corporations’ authoritarian regulations, otherwise they’re gonna make life real hard for you and kill your career.

There’s been over 500,000 covid vaccine injury reports (including many adverse reactions and deaths) in the last year which is over half of all cases reported to VAERS since its inception 3 decades ago. https://www.citizensjournal.us/astonishing-spike-in-post-vaccine-deaths-gets-no-media-coverage-as-over-2000-reported-this-week-alone/

And the media doesn’t report it, they don’t report the people who dropped dead or lost limbs, went deaf, got bell’s palsy, heart inflammation. It is absolutely criminal to mandate vaccines and fire people from their jobs for not taking it, and it is fucking criminal to force children and teenagers to get the vaccines, many teenagers have died and even got blood clots in the brain, heart problems, a lot of bad things. Vaccinating non consenting children who can’t make their own decisions, and covid is very low risk for them is unconscionable.

If the vaccine was more effective and actually offered full immunity, and if covid was more deadly then maybe you could justify it. But natural immunity is much more effective. They are making billions off of peoples ignorance and instilling fear into the public. Pharma companies are a business over anything else, they do not have your best interest in mind.

“People are suing Pfizer over Protonix. Protonix lawsuits say Pfizer failed to warn about the risk of kidney problems. In 2013, Pfizer agreed to pay $55 million to settle criminal charges. “

“In 1996, Pfizer conducted an unapproved clinical trial. It involved children with meningitis in Nigeria, CBS News reported. The trials led to the deaths of 11 children. Dozens more were left disabled.”

Pfizer is the most sued company of all time, they do not have your best interest in mind. What makes you think they wouldn’t fail to warn us about the risk of covid shots?

[–]__pulsar -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep you vax cult out of this lol

[–]Kodiak01 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Oh wait, they hold half the world's prison population

Because in certain other heavily populated countries, they just kill you outright.

[–]pfizerface -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not sure what you mean, USA still has death penalty, only a minority of countries still use it and USA is in the top 5 executions.

[–]Kodiak01 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Try again.

[–]pfizerface -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Try again what? They are #6 in 2019 🤡🤡🤡

Lol that's 2 comments in a row of bs

https://images.app.goo.gl/Zug4iFxMGEYBiFz77

[–]TheReal_Duke_Silver 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude are you fucking retarded? Do you think about and/or re-read the dumb shit you type?

[–]pfizerface -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks like all that ganja has fried your brain you demented yank. Why even argue against facts, is your small 2 cell brain that fucked.

[+]RacistCongressman -51 points-50 points-49 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Still the best legal system in the world, now or any time in the past.

[–]RealMessyart 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hoo boy
Sounds like you need to leave the country some time

[+]RacistCongressman -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm trying to be condescending because I'll concede if you have any places that, as a whole, has a better legal system than the US but I genuinely don't think one exists. And I'm not saying that's its not backwards in some ways like with domestic court. I just don't know of any better system that has ever existed.

[–]Right_Pepe 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My country legal system is bias, corrupted and retarded as hell but not as bad as the west.

And my country is more or less quite Islamic.

[–]skgody 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

That must make them all shit.

[–]sskkarz 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

It does

[–]skgody 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I really wonder why we are letting it continue?

[–]redditmeme1 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Get the killdozer

[–]skgody 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What is a killdozer?

[–]redditmeme1 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Some guy destroyed his town with a souped up bulldozer because the government wouldn't stop fucking with him I think it was like 70 million in damage but no fatalities.

[–]skgody 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer

[–]wikipedia_answer_bot 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This word/phrase(killdozer) has a few different meanings.

More details here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killdozer

This comment was left automatically (by a bot). If I don't get this right, don't get mad at me, I'm still learning!

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[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If it's so easy please fix things for us lesser beings.

[–]skgody 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Fixing it in itself is easy, its that people are a bit like stacking cats is the hard part.

[–]tenchineuro 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Fixing it in itself is easy

Not really, it's impossible.

its that people are a bit like stacking cats is the hard part.

If it's so easy lead the way and we will all follow. The sole measurement is success though.

[–]skgody 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I have a few tricks to make the impossible possible. If everyone wanted me to fix things it wouldn’t be so much like stacking cats.

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe I have a few tricks to make the impossible possible.

Show us then.

[–]Ginrob 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You need to get out more.

[+]RacistCongressman -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks dad 😏 Real contributory comment there.

[–]Syfri -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Correct, and that's a problem.

[–]Danny_Mc_71 136 points137 points138 points 4 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

"This is America. How could my fellow man treat me like this?" he said, answering his own question.

[–]binkerfluid 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Norm Macdonald said the perfect joke would be one where the set up and the punchline were the same...

[–]Ciridian 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

We also have the death penalty. Still. In spite of a frightenly large list of innocent people murdered in it.

[–]SgtRinzler 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

Unpopular opinion: some people deserve to die

[–]scyth3s 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

That's not unpopular. The unpopular part is that mistakes are irreversible, at least this guy was freed eventually.

[–]ne14611braska -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Unpopular opinion: God shall judge, men, meanwhile, are unreliable.

[–]Crassard 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Fuck you if you don't believe in the executioner's favourite imaginary friend I guess.

[–]InterestingWave0 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

That's not his point... He is saying that human beings are unreliable judges so the death penalty should not be legal.

[–]Crassard 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Ah, agreed then. The Unpopular Opinion: bit figured he was puttin' something out there but I don't think it's unpopular to want the death penalty removed?

Nice to see reasonable people. I thought it meant something more along the lines of "fuck it, let god sort them out" but it's late lol.

[–]ne14611braska 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for your reasoned tone. I live in a country that has outlawed the death penalty, and it has much lower crime statistics than (I presume) the USA from which you write. It's worth a try, don't you think? I know - I conflate many states. But... what if the courts are wrong? It's happened before.

[–]Crassard 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm from Canada, and I think the death penalty is only for high treason or some ridiculous thing here it basically never gets brought up.

[–]ne14611braska 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow.... anyway, somebody else made my point for me, and you made my point for me, too. Have a nice day.

[+]w_cruice -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some men need to arrange meetings so God can do his job....

[–]Ciridian 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't disagree. But care must be taken that the chance of killing an innocent is nil.

[–]Jesus_marley 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Since that is impossible, the death penalty is invalid.

[–]Ciridian 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

[–]ColArmitage 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I prefer to say that some people don’t deserve to live.

[–]someone_butnoone 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That can be a good thing for innocent ppl too. When their in pain, or gonna be on bed for the rest of their life, they should die and end the suffering

[–]foobar93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but that is for themselves to decide, not for someone else.

[–]Suspicious-Group2363 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Certain countries, like the one I live in, utilize it for only multiple murders or if the crime was heinous in some way.

[–]foobar93 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would argue it should only apply to capital crimes as in involves a lot of capital. Think tax fraud past 10m dollars. You would at least have the money to fight instead of having some mentally retarded person being accused and unable to defend themselves.

[–]Jesus_marley 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The death penalty kills innocent people. Unless you can give that life back to them, don't be in such a rush to deal out death as punishment.

[–]19741280 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly what a murderer would say. I think you created a loop.

[–]lStriderl 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd support the death penalty if the US legal system wasn't a shit show.

[–]someone_butnoone -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Simple fact: you dont get to decide who lives and dies

[–]SgtRinzler 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No, I don't, the courts do. Point still stands

[–]someone_butnoone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, the court does. Meaning u cant say some people deserve to die cause u simply dont know them. The court does.

[–]SgtRinzler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're telling me people that diddle kids deserve to live? I don't think so

[–]someone_butnoone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Im telling you, you have no right or authority to decide who lives and who doesn't regardless of what they've done. The court and ONLY the court can

[–]delsystem32exe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol

[–]Diligent-Education64 65 points66 points67 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Don’t expect a better deal from a man because your a man. I’ve been screwed by men and women equally in my life.

[–]ZS_1171 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

F

[–]nelsonbt 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I read the article - it states many times that he’s innocent, but the main argument against his conviction is that there was reasonable doubt because there was a second suspect.

Did anyone else see where it was proven he was innocent? Not saying he is or isn’t; the article is written as if his overturned conviction is hard proof of 100% innocence.

[–]furchfur[S] 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He is innocent. There was no evidence at all it was him and even evidence of a hand print which was not his.

[+]nelsonbt -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah, so reasonable doubt for sure and he should not be in prison, nor should he have been in prison for that. It’s a corruption of American justice. Just wondering if there was any proof of innocence though. I get there’s plenty of reasonable doubt. I think the article may be mixing up the concepts.

[–]macrolinx 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just wondering if there was any proof of innocence though.

That's not how any of this works. The burden of proof is on the state, not the defendant. I don't have to prove I didn't do something. You can't always prove a negative. That's why the burden is to prove that someone did do something.

It's the entire basis of "innocent until proven guilty", which is supposed to be the cornerstone of our legal system.

[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not how any of this works. The burden of proof is on the state, not the defendant.

Technically correct, and largely irrelevant. All they actually need to do to ruin your life is arrest you and hold you in jail.

There was a case posted here about a man who was arrested because it was claimed child porn was downloaded from his IP. They checked everything and found nothing. But they kept him in jail for a year while doing it, he was never even charged. Finally they said that what probably happened is that someone else downloaded from his unsecured wifi. But hen he got out, he's lost everything, including his friends and has little hope of gainful employment. He will probably die on the street alone. There was not so much as an apology from the police or DA.

[–]Ciridian 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Innocent until proven guilty. Reasonable doubt = innocent. Questionable evidence, or almost none at all = innocent.

Prosecutors should be facing a challenge to convict if people understood their rights (and that those rights apply to strangers too).

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[–]intactUS_throwaway 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Innocent in the eyes of the law.

The idea being (in theory, of course) that if a court is going to rule incorrectly, it would be better for the incorrect ruling to let someone who actually did the deed go free than to lock up or execute someone who didn't actually do it and then leave it up to Heaven to dole out justice in a more final sense.

Obviously, in practice, your mileage will vary wildly based on genitals and skin tone.

[–]goinsouth85 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You actually raise a very good point. You ever notice that the jury verdicts are guilty/not guilty rather then guilty/innocent? There’s a good reason for that - the sole question for the jury is, did the prosecution prove the defendant’s guilt beyond reasonable doubt. If the answer is no, then the verdict is “not guilty.” And that’s all the blind lady of justice writes.

But I think your question is - was it unreliable evidence or that the defense proved an alternate set of facts that makes a finding of guilt impossible. From my reading of it - it looks like it was somewhere in between. There was another suspect that was arrested before him but let go. It looks like defense pointed to enough evidence of someone else’s guilt. The evidence was not sufficient to prove the other suspect did it, but was sufficient to create a reasonable doubt as to the defendant.

[–]nelsonbt -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, thanks. That was what I was saying. And I agree with everything you said.

[–]rafganow 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember an innocence project case. They made a big deal about there being no physical.evidence. it was true no physical evidence in the trial. Because it was found in an illegal search. But the suspects clothes were drenched in the victims blood and that was inadmissible.

So its always good to do some digging.

[–]DerickSFrazer 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’ll learn ‘em.

[–]Blindnavigater 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let me blow your mind, you're just a number and a name in America, you dont matter.

[–]Jepekula 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Might as well have killed the dude.

[–]EmptinessWithin 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No money or otherwise compensation can undo 45 years of jail. Old man missed half of his life because of racist simps.

[–]randonumero 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Worse for him is that when he was found guilty the case was closed. His wife never got justice he wanted for her

[–]Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well to be honest in the '70s a lot of people were still very racist. Say the cops didn't even try . Thought it a slam dunk case due to his ethnicity.

[–]randonumero 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Realistically dna and evaluating allegations of mistreatment or outright racism would probably free a lot of people

[–]Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree

[–]WabashSon -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish more people on this sub saw the plight of black men as directly connectee their own. Regularly, I see posts and comments around here decrying attention to black men's causes, including BLM.

Some of you don't understand that whats been happening to us for years is exactly what's coming your way: violent, over-sexed, assumed guilty, predators... It's all the same cloth.

[–]Lifeinthesc 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because government. Government has been doing destructive, retarded activities at maximum speed for the whole of human history.

[–]Gries88 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So now what, it didn’t say anything about a financial settlement, he has no social security retirement... are they just going to throw him to the streets after destroying his life? And are they going to go after any of the officers responsible for withholding evidence?

[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Actually, as I understand it many places have programs to help released convicts get back on their feet. But for those released because they are innocent, they are on their own.

In some states you can sue for compensation, but the caps are ridiculously small. And in the UK they charge you for the cost of incarceration. Many US jails also charge inmates for the costs.

[–]Gries88 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow that’s crazy, get charged for being wrongly imprisoned... I hope this guys gets something for his life being ruined, at least get to live out his last few years comfortably.

[–]tenchineuro 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope this guys gets something for his life being ruined

He might get something, depending on the state, but he'll have to sue for it and the lawyer will get 1/3 or whatever the normal rate is. Obviously he has no assets, so he'll need to find a lawyer who will work pro bono.

[–]DirtyPartyMan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Corporations aren’t guided by your fellow man. The state officials that outsource incarceration to private companies aren’t your fellow man. The CEO’s of those privatized prisons aren’t your fellow man. Nor are the politicians that receive kick backs for allowing them in their states your fellow man. Nor are the state Capitol politicians who pass laws protecting them and handing them tax breaks your fellow man. The police that view your skin color first above the facts are not your fellow man. Same for the judge that sends you to that private prison.

Sir…you live in a country government by companies.

[–]shhsue727292jshhq827 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All those involved in sentencing /convicting should be charged severely.

[–]gnarlin 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Because Americans don't give a damn about justice. Only retribution. The CIA planned to murder Julian Assange because he did some journalism and when that turned about to be unfeasible they continued with plan-B: Get him to the USA with a witch-hunter style kangaroo court in the UK and then put him in a dungeon for the rest of his life for daring to do some journalism.

[–]REAMCREAM87 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That sounds a awful lot like what places like China do.

[–]gnarlin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Absolutely, and it's equally as repugnant when China does it.

[–]REAMCREAM87 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Some people need to see it compared like that

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because Americans don't give a damn about justice. Only retribution.

Who told you this?

[–]Connect_Stay_137 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Defund womans rights

[–]Cauterizeaf1 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because this is America

[+]Nightgasm -24 points-23 points-22 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Eh, nothing that proves he innocent. Just enough reasonable doubt to nullify the conviction. This isnt defending what happened long ago when they hid that a 2nd suspect was interviewed but from reading the article there is no evidence toward that suspect. So as much as this could be righting a wrong it could also be letting a guy who did in fact do it out of prison.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You forget that it is innocent until proven guilty, not the opposite. If there isn’t 100% without a doubt that someone committed a crime, they should not be convicted because of that principle.

[+]Nightgasm -14 points-13 points-12 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

He may innocent in a legal sense but that doesnt mean he didnt do it. People all the time get away with crimes that they absolutely did do on legal technicalities. I agree from a legal sense that based on the withheld information he deserved a new trial and that it may have helped bring reasonable doubt. None of that means he didnt do it though.

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[+]Nightgasm -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You see it all the time with plea bargains too. Joe Dirtbag gets pulled over and ends up with a laundry list of charges like DUI, driving on a suspended license, felony possession of a firearm, possession of meth, and possession of marijuana. The meth and firearm are felonies while the others misdemeanors. So when the plea deal happens the prosecutor drops all the misdemeanor charges and one of the felonies. Joe Dirtbag goes to prison on the one charge. Then down the road someone sees he wasnt convicted on 4 of 5 charges and thinks didnt do those 4 at all.

[–]420Riffs 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You could in fact be a serial killer. And due to the possibility of you might be one or you might not be one, we are going to have to throw you in prison for 40 years.

Dumbest fucking thing you've ever made me fucking read.

[–]Nightgasm -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not even remotely what I said or suggested.

[–]420Riffs 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It is %100 exactly what you said and suggested.

[–]Nightgasm -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No. The article and many posters are spinning it as if he was proven innocent. All that was proven is that there was legal fault in the original prosecution. As I said that was enough to grant him a new trial and create some reasonable doubt. Which is fine. That however doesnt mean he didnt do it. OJ did it but was legally acquitted. A legal finding of not guilty just means you werent convicted not that you didnt actually do it in reality. Just like with OJ.

[–]420Riffs 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So as much thought as you might thing you're putting into things, you could also still in fact be a serial killer.

[–]Nightgasm 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If I'd been arrested and convicted as such then yes I could be even if I got off on a technicality as this guy did. You are literally the one without thought into this.

Let me repeat. OJ Simpson. It's very obvious he did it but his defense team managed to turn the case into an attack on a detective due to some racist statements he made so the mountains of evidence against OJ got ignored by the jury because Mark Fuhriman said the N word at some point in the past. Getting off at trial only means your legally innocent and doesnt automatically mean you didnt do it.

In this case let's say they finally tested DNA evidence, which they couldnt do at trial because the tech didnt exist yet, and it pointed to another killer. Then you could be confident that the original guy was in fact innocent. When they get off on a legal technicality as this guy did you have no idea. As the article states there isnt any actual evidence pointing to the 2nd person, they just failed to disclose they had interviewed a 2nd person. That is just a legal technicality not proof of innocence. Nor proof of guilt toward the 2nd guy.

[–]ne14611braska 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's right.

[–]PulseStopper 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

45 years.. that hurts to read, Who knows how many years he has left. This is awful in every way, I don't care if he gets compensated with tens of millions of dollars. What good is money if you didn't even get to enjoy your younger years

[–]charcoalblueaviator 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would have sued the heck outof the government, took out a reasonable sum of it required to live a good life. And burn the rest of it in front of the courthouse.

[–]bouncedeck 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every time I see these headlines I cringe because most of the time it is a black man. WTF

[–]Electric_Logan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The legal systems hair is in the toilet water. Disgusting.

I’ve said my piece.

[–]TRDPaul 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You ever seen Making a Murderer? That's basically the US justice system

[–]thetruelagarto 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a person whos familiar with the justice system trust me it's worse than you think

[–]Reddit_Sux_Hardcore -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"This is America" he says.

Yes, that's exactly why you can be treated that way... because this country sucks.

[–]valboots -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because this is America.

[–]LilMagil214 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ohio is a Republiklan state and he is a black man..... you figure it out.

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