Being fatphobic is the same as being racist and sexist

Mrs_Drgree · 2023-01-08T12:57:13+00:00

Removed for off topic

Ylduts · 2023-01-08T09:09:24+00:00

For a small percentage of people with certain medical conditions, sure it can be similar, but I still see it as a stretch. In general you are born with your race and sex. For the vast majority of people being fat is a choice so no it isn’t the same.

purgemedaddii · 2023-01-08T09:00:56+00:00

For 99% of people being fat is a choice

M_LaSalle · 2023-01-08T09:16:25+00:00

So what exactly are we going to do about this? Enact civil rights legislation for fatties that allows them to file charges of discrimination if you don't date and/or fuck them? People are attracted to what they are attracted to. Will we enact fat quotas requiring you to date a mandatory set aside percentage of land whales?

Ohms2North · 2023-01-08T09:21:39+00:00

Wait till you're stuck between two of them on a twelve hour flight in economy class

Challenger350 · 2023-01-08T09:18:54+00:00

You dont know anything about them yet you have so many pre conceived ideas about them as a person.

The fact that they’re fat says a lot about them.

if it was easy everyone would be slim

It’s easy to be lazy and stuff your face with junk food so yes that adds up.

PuertoRock007 · 2023-01-08T09:11:07+00:00

Well for one I don't know if you're even talking about dating. If you are, not dating fat people isn't an "ism". You just aren't attracted to fat people.

you are judging someone solely based on their outwards appearance.

Well this is a case where judging them on their appearance makes sense. You can clearly see that they either don't eat healthy or don't get enough exercise.

Not saying that we should discriminate against them. Just saying that you tell tell alot about their lifestyle by their appearance. Unlike someone's race which they had no control over.

KerbySTD · 2023-01-08T09:19:26+00:00

Don't go kicking fat people on the street sure, but you can't tell me that I should be attracted to what I consider an unhealthy individual. I don't have the motivation to talk to talk or want to sleep with a person whom I consider not physically attractive for romantic reasons because society has made sugar and sweets readily available in the supermarket and they can't control themselves.

NockerJoe · 2023-01-08T09:11:23+00:00

Sure, but you can reject anyone romantically for any reason. You can't make someone be attracted to you. If they're against hiring you for a job thats a legal issue but you can't make someone love you despite a lack of attraction or chemistry.

AssistTemporary8422 · 2023-01-08T09:21:49+00:00

You are using very broad terms such as "fatphobic", "judging", and "discriminating." You need to be more specific and provide actual examples. For example when the topic came up advising that a obese friend would be better off if they ate healthier might be a bit insensitive, but this isn't as bad as not hiring someone because of her race. But going up to some stranger and making fun of his weight is pretty bad.

full_stack_maxx · 2023-01-08T09:42:33+00:00

there's only one way for someone to become, I'll say it again, BECOME fat.

which is to eat more than what they burn in calories...

HazyMemory7 · 2023-01-08T09:34:59+00:00

Obese women aren't entitled to men being interested in or attracted to them.

Silver_Switch_3109 · 2023-01-08T09:45:24+00:00

You can’t control you sex or race but you can control your weight.

Academic_Snow_7680 · 2023-01-08T09:46:26+00:00

Race and gender are not something you can change.

Your weight IS something you have control over.

stereoroid · 2023-01-08T09:49:41+00:00

Oh, here we go again with the "phobias", as if having any kind of preference is an expression of fear. If you think Islam is bullcrap, you're "Islamophobic", if you don't want an obese partner you're "fatphobic". I'm assuming this is about dating & romantic relationships, since you're posting on this sub.

Why do we have relationships at all? What's the benefit? Have we lost the idea that two people can actually be good for each other? Build each other up, make each other better people? Simple example: I walk for exercise and general pleasure, and so if I'm going to have a partner, I'll want her to walk with me. Not stay at home eating while I walk, not trundle along next to me in a mobility scooter. It would work both ways, of course: what can she teach me about life, health, etc.?

Are you going to call me "entitled" for wanting a partner to bring something to the relationship that would make my life better? I have things to offer too: it's not one-sided. If it's a zero-sum game, and we aren't both getting something out of it, what's the point?

revente · 2023-01-08T09:55:13+00:00

Just like being racist/sexist you are judging someone solely based on their outwards appearance.

No, it’s not comparable at all.

I’m not saying you should be fat phobic or that it’s justifiable but in one case you’re judging something prople have 0 control over, and in the other you’re judging a lifestyle that’s almost 100% controllable.

96tillinfinity_ · 2023-01-08T09:55:59+00:00

Comparing being called fat to racial slurs that go back to days of lynching, castration, rape, genocide is really something

We’ve really reached this point as a society

WhiskeyOnASunday93 · 2023-01-08T10:05:24+00:00

Obesity is more comparable to being a drug addict than your racism/sexism analogy

redbraisedmeat · 2023-01-08T09:17:18+00:00

you really dont need to worry about random peoples health status as anyone can be suffering from health issues

An obese person is more likely to suffer from debilitating diseases like hypertension, stroke, diabetes, heart diseases, etc. Telling someone it's perfectly fine to be obese is akin to egging them to commit a slow suicide.

When I was young, someone close to my family had to amputate their leg because of type 2 diabetes. He died from a heart attack a few years later. The hardest part was watching his wife take care of him. When you're obese, you're making your partner suffer.

puririnpa · 2023-01-08T10:22:56+00:00

fatness isn't an inborn trait so i wouldn't agree.

that being i don't care about fat people and people who exeggrate that are often losers

LoneWanderer_11 · 2023-01-08T11:01:26+00:00

Can you change your race. NO

Can you change your sex. NO

Can you lose weight. YES.

So isn't it clear why you would naturally think a fat person is lazy. I'm not talking about someone with medical issues. Most people are fat because of their past choices, and remain fat because of their current choices.

Well i would say weight can be extremely hard for people to change

yeah exactly dumbass we know it's hard. it takes people years to lose weight. so would you tell a person not to lose weight just because it's hard. isn't that exactly what being lazy mean, not doing the hard things.

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SmallSituation6432 · 2023-01-08T09:46:50+00:00

I agree in the sense that there is no reason to fatshame. Nobody needs to have their opinions heard about a someone's obesity except doctors. Even then, unless you are that specific person's medical practitioner offering medical advice, everyone else should just shut up and go about their lives.

That being said, trying to include obesity into a list of protected classes such as race/gender/sexuality is gonna be a tough sell. That means that while people should just shut up and get on with things, there are not going to be legal protections preventing people from saying what they want, even openly hateful things.

alphasupremacy5555 · 2023-01-08T09:53:46+00:00

Fair enough.

James_Cruse · 2023-01-08T10:04:42+00:00

I’m certain this is an unbalanced woman that has constantly been rejected by many men and is complaining about it indirectly, by proxy of “fatphobia”. This is toxic female victimhood being used to push this same tired fear agenda - “date me as a fat woman or you’re a bigot!”

I’ve seen people go from thin to fat and it does take ALOT of bad choices for a long time to become medically obese or even very overweight.

What I’ve noticed about people that are overweight or become overweight:

Usually those people are eating far too quickly and aren’t enjoying the food they’re eating. Eat slowly, with small bites. chew 30+ times and relax, breathe slowly and think about the flavours and what you’re eating. Fat people often eat while they’re doing something else and eat absently without thinking about it and it so quickly. If you’re eating a whole meal in under 15 minutes, it’s too fast. A full lunch or dinner should take you 40mins+.

They have far too large portions and don’t stop eating when they’re full - because they still have food on their plate (you don’t need to eat the remaining food). Stop eating when you feel close to being full. It takes 20 mins for your body to register fullness.

They eat alot of carbs that aren’t satisfying their hunger and them make them feel sluggish. Then they eat more carbs. Carbs make you hungry not long after you eat them, for some odd reason.

Most people aren’t eating enough good quality fats (this is filling and satiating). They ear far too high a percentage of plain carbs.

Alot of people drink alot of calories from drinks they don’t enjoy that much. Switch from drinking soft drink (soda for americans) and drink water with a dash of lemon juice or kombucha if you’re really gasping for a fizzy drink.

Not getting enough sleep (7hrs - 9 hrs per night) does make you alot hungrier. I’ve noticed this myself.

Most people aren’t actually hungry when they eat or aren’t as hungry - drink a glass of water first and wait and see how you feel. Drink more water during the day and you’ll feel less hungry.

There is nothing wrong with skipping a meal if you’re not hungry. You don’t need to eat 3 meals every day. You can have two, one or none. Three meals per day is not a rigid meal structure that you have to abide by, it’s cultural and has no basis in humans natural eating rhythms now or in history.

Also, fat people seem to have this odd idea that if they’re feeling bad - more food will make them feel better - it doesn’t. Exercise makes them feel better or just basic movement.

Exercise is also a big factor: I’ve found doing no exercise, like when I’m injured, I feel lethargic and hungry and want to eat more often even though I’m moving less, strangely. Lifting weights a few times per week does make you feel alot better. You don’t have to do hard exercise - just do some regular exercise that you enjoy, like walking for 30 mins per day, like with your dog or a friend, some yoga, regular sex, martial arts, dancing, skating or just anything fun, as long as you do about 30 mins of additional exercise every day.

Walking alone for 30 mins per day does wonders and can have you losing kilograms of weight per month with almost zero injury risk and costs you no money and you can do it anywhere.

kokokimoo · 2023-01-08T10:29:59+00:00

wtf does this have to do with dating or pill theories?

henrycatalina · 2023-01-08T10:33:29+00:00

Are you talking about choosing partners or general life interactions? My mother inlaw is and has been fat due to mostly diet. I'll treat her kindly. Her daughter and my wife have remained slim. My wife and I have always been critical of each others controllable weight and fitness. Yea, fatphobic for your own personal attraction to spouses is just being honest. (Assuming reasonable exceptions and adjustments for pregnancy and age).

Maleficent-Paint-343 · 2023-01-08T11:13:13+00:00

Yes, it’s all about body positivity. You go, girl. We should all encourage you just because you don’t want to work hard to lose your weight like many people do. What kind of a shitpost is this?

If you’re ok with your weight, go for it, but don’t expect all guys to accept and sleep with you.

GNP_Aficionado · 2023-01-08T11:32:20+00:00

I wish people were more fatphobic - means more fatties and less competition for me!

AdComprehensive6588 · 2023-01-08T12:01:55+00:00

No fatphobia is not only completely justified but we need more of it.

Racism and sexism is disliking people purely on genetics they can’t change and ignores their character.

However, for 90% of fat people, being fat is a CHOICE. It shows a lack of self control, lack of exercise, isn’t outgoing etc. a persons character is REVEALED through how fat they are.

People don’t want to date someone like that.

Seriously, quit shaming people for their preferences.

UneastAji · 2023-01-08T12:12:16+00:00

What do you mean by discriminating? You mean not befriending, fucking, dating, and marrying them? Or you mean, not hiring them at your workplace?

In the first case, that ain't discrimination pal. You can perfectly never date, fuck and marry some people based on any reason and it won't be discrimination.

What you're talking about is probably social equity, and social equity is not only massive bullshit that is unrealizable, but also this isn't the theme of this subreddit.

And I'm a 5'5 man that has been told by many women I'm not a man to them because of it. Funny I don't see height in your post being mentioned, despite it's well known discriminating factor for everything in life even moreso than weight.

maam9243 · 2023-01-08T15:33:19+00:00

I agree that people should be treated with respect, but no one is entitled to sex and romantic affection. Some people are into fatphilia and some are not. You cannot demand that the people you are attracted to be attracted to you.

No_Influence_4828 · 2023-01-16T08:04:23+00:00

as a former fat person I would like to tell you to shut up! you have lost your brain. why are you promoting being sick?

Title	Being fatphobic is the same as being racist and sexist
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