How Come There Are No Gender Specific Transgressions For Women?

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-02-28T11:23:00+00:00

Removed for off topic

250umdfail · 2022-02-28T10:05:59+00:00

Stop playing the victim. Slut, clingy, attention whore, gold digger, prude, bossy, plain Jane, Karen, etc. are all terms almost exclusively used for women.

Creep, and nice guy are men's domain, that I agree. But other than that pretty much every social faux pas applies to women, often exclusively at that.

Michel__Ney · 2022-02-28T09:22:11+00:00

Honestly there's a reasonable explanation for this, it's because the average man can kill the average woman with his bare hands. Transgressions and behavioral expectations are going to be different because men and women are different.

If a drunk girl comes up to you in an alleyway and gets all over you you can just gently push her off, what's she going to do? Nag you to death? It's not the same if a drunk man gets all over a girl in an alleyway, that man can easily overpower her and do something awful.

Noodles_R · 2022-02-28T09:46:18+00:00

Sluts? Almost exclusively used to shame women for their sexual behaviour and limit it, in a way that never happens for men. Prude - another sexual insult but this time meant to make women be more sexual.

There are probably more for men, I agree, but to say they don’t exist for women is not true.

LittyKitsune · 2022-02-28T09:25:37+00:00

I'm just gonna take a second to point out that it's still not socially acceptable for a woman to feed her own kid without a cover in many places because "ew tiddies."

Meanwhile, it's hot outside and a man wants to jog? We good.

painfurouartacc · 2022-02-28T09:34:43+00:00

because men are the more dangerous sex biologically?

DreamsOfWishes · 2022-02-28T09:18:19+00:00

Because there's actual real life consequences for women who don't abide by their set of rules. No need for social shaming on top of it, when their consequences are worse then social shaming.

(I'm talking about sexual assault)

Mark_Freed · 2022-02-28T11:04:57+00:00

Society burdens women with many stereotypes,

A women has an uphill battle if she wants to be funny, ambitious, assertive, logical, pragmatic, cunning, firm, thick skinned, etc.

The same action will be received in a different way depending on the gender of the person. Like the default assumption will be that she won't be funny. That she is a bitch, that she has a chip on her shoulder.

But if a guy does the same thing, everything suddenly takes a positive connotation. Gender roles or traits is not one sided. Both genders face it but to an extent there are asymmetries. Men face more stigma for sex toys, to be a stay at home dad, etc while nowadays women can be ambitious, embrace her sexuality, hit on guys, to an extent.

So other stuff would be promiscuity, not having kids (how spinsters are treated vs bachelors), being direct, brash, even being rude is more forgiven in men.

Being muscular, body hair, not wearing makeup or putting in effort to look good have all have greater negative consequences for women.

How gossip is used or reputation is maligned, women are expected to be playing the victim, fake tears, not taking responsibility, being entitled, to lie, misguide, to put a spin on things, dissimulation, pretense, be crafty, lie, speak falsehoods smoothly.

So faithlessness, treachery, ungratefulness, manipulation, shaming, passive-aggressive behaviour, vindictivenessare all expected. Unreliable memory, learned helplessness, overdependency.

Think of actions that would cause you to classify a person like this. Are people usually fair in their judgement? is there more sensitivity to blame women in these ways? While men have to do a lot more to "transgress" the boundaries.

Each gender seems to have their own standards. There are levels of introversion that are ok for women but the same levels are not ok for men. Like you mentioned, it is far easier for a man to be "creepy" if he is not well calibrated socially.

While it is far easier for a women to be labelled "crazy" and people will diminsh her personhood, objectify her and gaslight her to doubting her reality, her reasons, emotions and feelings. There are levels of cockyness that men can get away with which women cannot.

gimpgirl555 · 2022-02-28T10:09:19+00:00

But my question is, how come there are no such rules for women?

It's being fat, ugly, or awkward. We just don't talk about it.

Superannuatedpunk · 2022-02-28T10:30:31+00:00

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

Have you seen how much time gets spent just on this sub talking about women's sexual transgressions?

There's a frikkin' N-Count thread every goddamned day!

SylvestorTalone · 2022-02-28T10:52:41+00:00

The gynocentric society is only really interested in policing men's behaviour, it's no more complicated than that.

DaphneDK42 · 2022-02-28T11:12:02+00:00

Being a slut. Dressing age inappropriately. Being bossy.

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Creation_Soul · 2022-02-28T11:21:22+00:00

the problem has been and always will be men's pseudo-monopoly on violence. Basically, bad things men do are more obvious because they are usually physical. While, women are not saints, the bad things they do tend to be more psychological which are harder to identify and can have more plausible deniability.

Princess_Mei_Ling · 2022-02-28T10:35:04+00:00

Jordan Peterson said that the top 20% of the most disagreeable members of the society are males, and many of them ended up in jail.

Title	How Come There Are No Gender Specific Transgressions For Women?
Author	DynamicCrab
Upvotes	11
Comments	42
Date	February 28, 2022 9:13 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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