Reverse-shit test

CatchPhraze · 2018-07-23T09:16:58+00:00

So you play games because you don't want a woman who is going to play games with you. The irony floors me.

It's fine, smart even to you I'd suppose for you to vet a partner, but shes just so unattractive for the same thing. It's honestly redicoulus.

Standards are fine but most adults just comunincate them like well, adults. Acting like you are probably rules you out for as many women as you rule out yourself.

Willow-girl · 2018-07-23T11:24:59+00:00

Well, I like to test guys by showing up for first dates with my hair uncombed, no makeup, in dirty sweatpants and grungy sneakers. If the guy appears to lose interest in me, I know his intentions weren't sincere, and I next him.

It just makes sense, right?

Aaren_Augustine · 2018-07-23T08:18:28+00:00

Men do compliance tests. This should show you if she's into you.

Your strategy is to act like a woman because you don't want to be rejected.

Furthermore, you haven't even made up your mind about the chick, so both of you are trying to do figure shit out and no one's really calling the shots.

Take the lead. You're going to get rejected. So what. At least you stood for something and not waffled around and let women chose your role for you.

321PK · 2018-07-23T10:17:14+00:00

indicate weakness

Like what? Weeping inconsolably? Can’t open a jar? Requiring some elaborate ritual about where you’re seated in a restaurant?

Quadtastrophe · 2018-07-23T08:33:56+00:00

I prefer to just throw some genuine at her and see if it sticks.

UsedAlgae · 2018-07-23T09:03:43+00:00

Wait, did I understand you correctly? "I show little pieces of vulnerability and if she reacts positively and doesn't appear to be playing games, I consider her dating material"? This is what the vast majority of the population considers normal dating behavior.

reluctantly_red · 2018-07-23T12:41:59+00:00

My 1987 Ford pickup truck was useful for identifying gold diggers most of the time.

gankylosaurus · 2018-07-23T20:49:39+00:00

So basically your "reverse-shit test" is seeing if you can be yourself around someone? And if you can't, then you switch to "game" just so you can get laid?

It's not totally invalid. I just think it's generally something a lot of us men do anyway. You've just made it a more conscious habit.

I think this is very similar to the idea of the "fuck-zone" as well. I've known girls who liked me, but I didn't see them as the kind of women I wanted to be with for the long haul, so we just had sex. To be fair, it ended up being pretty clear that we just liked each other as friends who also happened to have sex.

But in your version, it's the woman who doesn't see you as relationship material, so you decide to make yourself one-night-stand material...

...

...All right. I'll buy it. Not sure it passes as advice, but hey as long as everyone's getting what they want.

nomansweb · 2018-07-23T13:43:53+00:00

Have you considered that this may be like doping in sports? You have to go along with it because if you don't you'd actually appear below-average and get rejected by women who would be okay with you having just being average.

Women might be so used to men trying to maintain extreme frame during dates that they'll think you must have no frame at all if you don't try to maintain at least some frame during a date. This would be similar to how a 5'9" guy can't actually say he's 5'9" for online dating/apps because most other 5'9" guys put 5'11" on their profile so women will think a guy who put 5'9" on his profile is actually only 5'7" and then the guy gets rejected while the woman would actually be fine with a 5'9" guy.

PhucCheet · 2018-07-24T21:47:40+00:00

I think I do the same thing as you, just worded less autistically.. you're eliciting more visceral repulsion here.

I do a "Trust Test." Partway in I share a nugget of vulnerability in a controlled way and observe how she reacts. If she's callous and starts losing interest, I know she's not worthy of emotional intimacy and will only get casual sex from me, never commitment. If she reacts with empathy and compassion, shares some vulnerability herself, and does not have any lower attraction to me that night/week, that's a sign she's worthy of trust.

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tickledpic · 2018-07-23T08:20:56+00:00

So you are trying to spite them with their own tools?

Why not stop the manipulations in it's tracks? To me, intentions for a monagomous relationship can only develop after sex... if we are compatible on a deeper level. This makes me immune to manipulation and allows me to always be honest about what I want.

wtffellification · 2018-07-23T11:18:44+00:00

So, because it's in female nature to test men, you are going to 'test them back' ? That sounds quite pathetic. Who do you think you are being authentic to?

nokanjaijo · 2018-07-23T16:28:18+00:00

And how do you decide when a woman backs off because you're demonstrating vulnerability or if she's backing off because she just doesn't like you? Maybe she loses interest because you suddenly strike her as a bit neurotic or lacking in empathy or lacking in basic humility or self-awareness.

There are all sorts of reasons a woman might lose interest in you after spending some time with you.

What you've done here is design a rationalization that allows you to tell yourself that a woman losing interest in you has nothing to do with you having any undesirable personality traits, it's only ever about her failing a test.

That is going to prevent you from growing and improving as a person. And that it the sort of weakness everybody is well advised to lose interest in you about.

And I'm not the only one trying to get you to notice this.

tl:dr This plan isn't a plan so much as a story you're telling yourself to protect your ego.

ATastefulNude · 2018-07-23T17:33:45+00:00

In what ways do you display "weakness"?

You do you, but this seems like it could easily backfire. I assume that in the initial phases of dating that the man I'm with is on his absolute best behavior. If he shows weakness by something like losing his temper or getting upset about something small , even slightly, I would next him immediately assuming that's just a tiny taste of what I'm in for if I continue on with that person.

I would suggest you communicate your expectations, desires, and boundaries in a clear and mature manner, but that's simply my preference.

andrew_rdt · 2018-07-23T18:16:00+00:00

What is the end goal here? To find a woman for LTR/marriage who doesn't mind if you one day become low value? Sorry to disappoint you but all of them care about this to some extent. All your tests are doing is filtering out the women who are quick to notice your changes. If you are in an LTR they don't have to be quick, it may take them years but they can still lose interest some day.

TallSwaggOVO · 2018-07-24T01:04:15+00:00

This seems like it would be better in theory than in actual practice.

[deleted] · 2018-07-23T11:22:04+00:00

When you're at her place use her toilet and take a massive shit. One that really sticks to the toilet bows and could be said to require decontamination. It should reek out to you as you get back to your Netflix evening. Also use her hairbrush while you're in there. Use it in your greasy unwashed hair. Tell her to go get you a beer. If she complains then say you felt so at home with her that you actually thought you were at home.

blackedoutfast · 2018-07-23T15:14:18+00:00

people who say shit like this are never as clever or manipulative as they think they are.

Title	Reverse-shit test
Author	hajimenothrowaway
Upvotes	6
Comments	69
Date	July 23, 2018 8:09 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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