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[–]bama79rolltide300 points301 points302 points 9 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
Why waste your time? She's already degraded you as a safe bet? She'll ride the cocks of others and assume she'll come to you after she's had enough semen pumped into her to fill a barrel.
You're going to make a nice dime. Plus, you'll hit it off with women bringing in animals for help. You're gonna be a superstar in their eyes.
Kings don't chase, they replace.
[–]Docbear6476 points77 points78 points 9 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'm not agreeing with the " keep her as a plate " mentality here. So she is going to fuck around , summon you whenever she wants dick always believing you'll be her safety net and you're ok with this charade continuing to go on ? I think it's best to nip that shit in the bud , she'll have a safety net in her mind but I'd be damned if it was me .
[–]mweiss11858 points59 points60 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Keeping her around at all is a bad idea. That's how you end up hearing "Oops, I'm pregnant!"
[–]prinzklaus19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Good point. I was thinking, "Fuck it. Keep her around and use her like she was planning on using him." But yeah, you're right. That was childish. Besides who wants to spend time around such a horrible person?
[–]p3n1x5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I never quite understood this. Why is she "horrible"? She has a back up plan, its smart. Never assume the person complaining (OP) is the "the cool one". OP is a backup for a reason. She made him a backup because its the only worth he portrays. She's playing the game, he's still mad/denial there is a game.
OP wants us to tell him "unicorns" exist, why? Because, hey guys, this one is different from all the other I got fucked (disney anger).
At what point does one wake up and realize they aren't getting fucked over, rather, they are fucking themselves over?
Guys seem to be more direct and let you know your role in their life.
OP is going to get fucked by everyone. Using a statement like this to define "those evil womans". Wake the fuck up OP. Stop cherry picking the parts of RP information that make you feel good and start internalizing the whole spectrum.
[–]prinzklaus5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess what defines a horrible person is subjective. But I'm just not a fan of using people. Especially in the manner of relationships. So a woman (or man) that just wants to be a gold digger to me sounds like a horrible/weak individual. No more than a leech that reaps the benefits of someone's hard work while manipulating someone they are saying they care about. I'm a fan of empowering yourself. Having your own self-worth. Working hard and reaping the results of that hard work. That's something no one can take away from you.
That is true that OP is the only side of the story here that we're reading about. And he did mention women with
Some women are secretive and conniving beings. Sure there are some that aren't like this
But I still take his post as a cautionary tale to men. Basically watch your ass, and don't get played. Don't fall back into the trap of being a beta guy.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is something in what you say, but a man should never be any womens safe bet. If she does not want you when you are at your average they do not deserve you later. And OP mission is to understand his own worth.
A man shall learn that the truth. Your value in society will increase with the age, do not commit yourself before you rise in value.
[–]p3n1x0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
but a man should never be any womens safe bet.
Your actions hold currency, but what you get to be in her mind is not your choice. You only get to choose whether you stay around or not after you find out your value to her.
Your value in society will increase with the age, do not commit yourself before you rise in value.
stfu, this is not mystical or deep. No, age does not equate in value unless you do the things necessary to be valuable. Less, you just be some "old dude".
Assuming you mean women in that statement, there is no need to "commit" period.
The fact that you can't see OP is still beta, shows that you need to up your experiences and wisdom and stop speaking to others like you have some.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ever hear of condoms? also demand paternity tests. dispose of the condom yourself to know she can't steal it from the trash. the baby won't be yours and you'll be free after the paternity test. bring you own condoms so she can't poke holes etc etc. pretty easy. if you never ever want kids get a vasectomy.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Like someone else in this thread said... who gives a shit about her plans or intentions? fuck her or don't, it doesn't matter
[–]jon9456 points57 points58 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Because condoms break and she's already made it clear she'll manipulate him to keep him around.
[–]no_face23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
He is a vet. He probably has access to donkey condoms or something
[–]jon9416 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Can he hook me up? Magnums just don't do it anymore
[–]LegendaryLeonard6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oops, I dropped my monster condom that I use for my donkey dong.
[–]no_face1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"anymore?"
It ... it keeps growing? Holy crap! those penis growing pills actually work? I better dig into my spam box and ... brb
[–]jon941 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let's just say you shouldn't be deadlifting with just you arms and legs.
[–]Purecorrupt0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This wasn't even a thought I considered having let alone something I ever thought I would read. Lolol...
[–]Luckyluke232 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i don't even think he is planting her. i think it was just a time time fuck, from what i read anyway.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think he was just saying they slept together and didn't talk afterwards which he was cool with. Then he later was surprised to hear she had this elaborate plan whereas he was just like "ok" to a no strings attached fuck.
[–]Aids_by_Google39 points40 points41 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I disagree, have fun if she throws herself at you agian & you feel the urge. Let her know the next time very clearly that you'd never consider her anything more than a one night stand & then throw her back on the scrap heap. Maybe mention to her that her cc actions rule her out as a possible long term partner & remind her how you will be rocking it when you graduate.
[–]Orig_analUse_rname 28 points28 points28 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Ok. I wouldn't do this. Just do your thing with her but don't reveal your intentions. Women are happy when they think you are a fool. I say keep getting pussy, and when the time comes, drop her.
[–][deleted] 17 points17 points17 points 9 years ago | Copy Link
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[–]hawkeaglejesus1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More like Law 3 - Conceal your intentions
[–]Oz70NYC6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly what I was about to type.
[–]darkrood5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Here are my pocket aces, and you see that I did not connect the board, so please play your hand differently."
Careful that she will do the "sm, anal, then cry rape" route on destroying his path.
It has been done before
[–]aDrunkenWhaler1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's scarcity. You have an endless number of women you can have fun with. New pussy, less risks, less drama, more to explore and experience, more respect, better connections etc. The only reason you'd still hit that is because it's easy pussy and you're thirsty.
Hate fucking her in the ass one last time I understand though.
[–]indivisibleremainder2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sounds like a revenge fantasy
[–]mrcs84usn4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is like those conversations that Male/Female friends have all the time. "If we're still both single by 30, lets just marry each other."
Yeah, no. I'm not going to be someone's last resort.
[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kings don't chase, they replace
I'm saving that for later. And combining that with everyone being the star of their own movie that is their life, people should see why we have such little tolerance for drama. Women do get it, but they hate that betas are starting to develop standards. That is the biggest threat TRP presents and is why so many have such a visceral response to our teachings and philosophy.
[–]Venny_185 points86 points87 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I have written a story about a friend of mine who basically went through the same game. Check out my posting for the thread [Your long journey]
Heed my words OP: Do not play the long game with such a girl! Do not plate her or give her the illusion of a possible commitment beyond the horizon, 'cause she will fuck you up. Realize that her eyes are those of a manipulative, cold and vindictive Medusa.
She can easily cry rape, or stalk, or physically harm you, or whatever the fuck, just to get at you, since she couldn't get you. Show her the cold sholder early on, and let her know that there will be nothing between you two to develop. The longer you let the idea of "us" fester in her mind, the more volatile she will become.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It's amazing that men are taught that hurting others for your own gain is a cost to be weighed, while women either are not taught this or it is not absorbed. This is easily demonstrated by comparing how many women have close friends they've known for more than a decade. The closest male friends will literally walk into a house fire to try to save another close male friend. Women will cry on the sidewalk for attention. The only people they will risk their lives for are their biological children, and even then to a much smaller degree.
[–]p3n1x1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The only people they will risk their lives for are their biological children, and even then to a much smaller degree.
This is very good from an evolutionary standpoint. Why have both parents die in that fire? She can carry on and create more children for the species.
Have an issue with the rules, take it up with nature. Sorry, but you sound bitter angry , like, the way they behave is "personal".
Unicorns don't exist, neither does the boogeyman.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's perfectly fine to be bitter and angry at times.
And because something is natural does not entail good or that you should like it or not get bitter because you were misled in regards to it.
Of course, I accept it overall, but I sometimes get bitter about it, especially when I remember the lies told to me regarding it and dumb life decisions I made when I didn't know any better.
[–]p3n1x1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only for the brief moment that you realize you are in that state. Anger and bitterness is a waste of your valuable time. We are fallible creatures, yes. Learn from it. Be better.
Have a mental plan ready for 'mistakes', don't dwell in them.
[–]eibendrinkin 32 points32 points32 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I remember reading this about your friend the dentist! I was actually thinking about him while I was writing this.
Thanks for the advice man.
[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For reals, don't ever talk to her again. You don't sound abundant at all.
[–]Barvazon191 points192 points193 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like you're her meal ticket. Do not get that bitch pregnant. It is not worth the pussy.
[–][deleted] 80 points81 points82 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
For all the people saying to spin her as a plate... THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T. She already stated her intentions... Do you really think this lying whore is going to let you get the upper hand and 'win'? To make her feel like the foolish whore she is? Do you think she'll let her beta meal ticket slip away that easy? If she's ready to settle down she WILL do something to lock him down, and from the way it sounds... OP isn't alpha enough currently to spin her safely. No offense. I have your best in mind. Also... You're better than this. You really want to validate her with any more attention. If you really have abundance mentality, and you aren't a weak pussy then cut it off now. She should have less value to you now than a stranger. Only a beta cuck would keep fucking her. There are plenty of other women out there. Let her feel like she completely undervalued you and was a dumb whore by never speaking to her again. She deserves nothing more.
[–]mile-high11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Totally agreed. This is the way forward. The best payback you can give her is a lifetime of her wondering what happened. Mostly she will hamster away and come up with some rationalizing narrative, but at the back of her head she'll never get over that at the end of the day your value was higher than hers and you both know that.
its pretty easy to not get a girl pregnant. no need to be dramatic.
[–]aazav7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's how they look at us. So they can have an easier life off of our hard work. They look at is as, "they have options to have fun now and profit off of us when they want to". We are their investment for the future (at their convenience) while they play now.
[–]syf3r2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
totally agree. if you ever stick your dick in, which is not recommended, but if you do, flush out the condom yourself
[–]Lizard_Of_Ozz43 points44 points45 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I've definitely been that guy. I had an ex who seemed to be interested in me when she found out I had a good job. Always wanting me to take her out and buy her things without doing a damn thing for me (not even any sex) and I put up with it like a stupid beta because I really liked her. Then on a date I told her my hours were getting cut bad at work and I wouldn't have as much money, like clockwork she lost interest and told me she was going back on dating sites to look for someone else.
Red Pill is really opening my eyes at how women really are and how many mistakes I've habitually made.
[–]The__Tren__Train20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
LOL
im not laughing at you getting played... but it's just pretty shocking to see such a cut and dry example of AWALT like that..
paints a pretty clear picture
[–]phate045120 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I went out with a chick like this for a year. I was in the finance industry and was getting murdered back in 2007, 2008. I decided to change my career and go back to school. I sat her down on a Friday night, told her my plans, and she was gone by Monday. Never heard from her again.
Took me 4 years to get the career I wanted and I'm making great money, but she couldn't deal with me putting in the hard work.
[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I sat her down on a Friday night, told her my plans, and she was gone by Monday. Never heard from her again.
I'm close with my cousin, and both of us have been successful. We were getting ready to head out on a long distance hike a few years ago when he got a call.
<picks up and listens for a moment>
<businesslike voice>
You said I deserved someone better than you. You were right.
<hangs up>
Brutal but that's how you have to be. Since I've made some paper myself, I've had girls from high school who I never talked to act like we were best friends back then, and girls I went on a couple of dates with in college calling up to try to get back together.
The galling part is that they have no game, and are astonishingly transparent.
[–]Docbear642 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be fair I think that's a compliment to you , younger unsuccessful you probably would have made a few of those women a priority . They don't have game and since the you they knew was different they think that just gracing your life with their presence is enough.
[–]JvSOUL8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao this one is even more hilarious. Jesus christ
[–]Obi_Yo6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women HATE to see that. To see a plan that's going to take work. It's infuriating because as men that's what we live for. No. They just want to quick success, the "right now". It makes my blood boil.
[–]landon0423 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
right, the only reason shit like this happens? because fucking beta losers buy shit for them, she knows she can parasite hop from host to host(betabux) and suck the resources without doing a damn thing.
solution: all men stop being a bitch then wymn got nothing to pull
[–]Obi_Yo2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not just bitches. My LTR is a total girl by all definitions but she's very kind and caring to me. She loves the passion I have for my hobbies but I can see the gears going through her head when I tell her "Yeah if I practice for 5 years I'll be amazing!". It's like she cannot even comprehend it.
[–]vagbutters31 points32 points33 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
This is why I strongly advise anyone who is fat/scrawny to go slow with any new "relationships" that come cropping up. I've known women like this in my past when I used to be fat-- they're nice to you and give you attention that they know no other woman will give you, just to secure you as an eventual meal ticket.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can comfirm. I was tall and scrawny most of my life up until 1 year ago. I was prime betabux bait.
[–]RPFlame4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I remember having a friend who had dried spell through his university years. I once told him (pre-TRP) "you realize that women will only see a wallet with legs in you, right?" (I was trying to convince him to hit the gym).
His response disarmed me. "Yep".
There are so many low effort people who would rather play the beta bucks game than grow the fuck up and adapt to the reality of the world.
[–]GameOver172 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I used to work with a BB who referred to his wife and step kids as a "package deal." She takes vacations with her friends to do god knows what and he takes vacations with his friends to golf.
Some guys just accept their fate, it's sad. Don't be them.
[–]vagbutters2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They're referred to as man-children/beta males for a reason; these kinds of people need to learn the RP lesson the hard way- via divorce rape.
[–]darkrood0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He is probably banking on "Asian obedient women, SEA, expat vacation."
Trust me, I had light skin Iraqi came back telling me like he is god's gift to women.
[–]Docbear640 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This reminds me of a cousin of mine . When trying to have a heart to heart with him about women . He stated he as perfectly fine supporting a woman as long as she gave him a few crumbs of attention . I find that so unbelievably sad.
if i was rich and ugly i would play women by dangling relationships in front of them and dumping them after i got to fuck them a few times. hell i'd do that even if good looking and rich. id know deep down no girl would date me for ME.
[–]kippybippy 23 points23 points23 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Send this bitch packing, dude. She's nothing but trouble. Not even worth the sex, man. Manipulative people only hurt...nothing good can come of it.
[–]Juan-San28 points29 points30 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
My previous 7 year LTR, back when I had no idea of TRP, dumped me for some other guy 'cause she wasn't feeling haaaaaappy with me. She told me I was the perfect guy to marry, but she wanted to ride the CC get to know other people (I was her first bf). I was her safe bet.
We had a few conversations after the break up, she wanted me to keep helping her with her computer stuff, teaching her how to use her deviantArt account (which I created, uploaded the drawings, answered her inbox for reqests, whatever), I said I could teach her how to do so, but in the future, as it still really hurted me to see her.
Then I found out TRP. I understood her behavior, how she was planning to get her end game, keep a nice BB guy to fall back after she couldn't keep riding the CC because the wall was gonna hit her somewhat soon (she's 26 and she started getting a bit fat when she dumped me).
Obviously, that hurt even more, and I got angrier, because I knew the truth. So I decided I wasn't gonna take any more of that shit. I blocked her from all of my social media, changed the dArt account password, deleted every drawing and when she asked me why she couldn't log in, I told her I had no idea, and deleted the account. She had already taken a lot from me, and she wasn't gonna get anything else. Then, I went no contact.
That has to be your move. If you play by her game, you're gonna lose. Go no contact, become the better version of yourself, and if she ever comes back, tell her to fuck off.
[–]ScarletNumbers14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
she wanted me to keep helping her with her computer stuff
30 years ago it would have been to help her hook up her stereo
[–]eibendrinkin 9 points9 points9 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Past couple relationships went just how yours did too. I was the perfect guy to settle down with, but we met at the wrong time or some other thing they come up with.
She's still blocked on social media, but I still have her number. I'm probably going no contact with her from now on.
[–]Juan-San5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was the perfect guy to settle down with, but we met at the wrong time
The right time is when the carrousel doesn't want her to ride, and she sees the wall coming.
[–]p3n1x2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm probably going no contact with her from now on.
Probably?
Past couple relationships went just how yours did too.
You really need to start here dude. The guy in the mirror, fix him.
You need a kick in the teeth. You are heartbroken, it is ok to admit this. You are beta as fuck, it is ok to admit this. These scenarios are going to happen to you for the rest of your life if you don't stop coming to the forums looking for man hugs instead of fixing the problems.
You sound "purple". The guy who insists he can smash a square peg into a round hole.
[–]JupiterWalk0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Funny. I'm recently went through this. Ex-girlfriend broke up with me and she still wanted for us to be friends. I said no, so I kinda cut some communication ties with her. Then, less than a month she had a new boyfriend. That's where I just exploded and blocked her from almost everywhere. She managed to call me one night all drunk. Saying she missed me and how a dumbfuck his new boyfriend was. I kindly listened to her cause that was the last time I heard her voice (back in September).
From what I understood from the call, is that she just wanted to enjoy her last year of college doing crazy shit while I'm over here working and busting my ass. I was her safe bet. I didn't let that happen.
Like some other posts mention, ghost these girls. It's probably the only efficient option we have.
[–]brinkleybuzz44 points45 points46 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Some women are secretive and conniving beings.
Some women?! Ha. You have some serious sidebar reading to do ---->
In the relationship game, the average guy plays checkers while the average girl is playing three dimensional chess. Now that you are aware of this, don't get your ass checkmated.
[–]eibendrinkin 16 points16 points16 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
By some, I meant most, but there are always some outliers.
2 last relationships I got checkmated and I finally realized what you're talking about. It's almost like a different game.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There are no outliers man, awalt
[–]Orig_analUse_rname 12 points12 points12 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'm sick of these guys coming in here talking about unicorns. Outliers? All that kind of thinking does is make a guy think that he's found an unicorn when they are all the same.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Teah literally these guys problems would dissipear if they dropped the girl for a while and go see other women, and laugh when the girl they left wants him back
[–]BrackOBoyO10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
AWALT is a hugely important aspect of TRP thought. Make sure you understand it and how it applies here
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
U win by not playing, thats how this works
[–]JacksOnJaxOff1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Isn't three dimensional chess the same as normal chess?
Edit: nevermind, it's 2d
[–]ScarletNumbers8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, that would be two dimensional chess.
[–]JacksOnJaxOff5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
2 dimensional would be flat...
[–]ScarletNumbers13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, all the moves are on a flat surface
[–]JacksOnJaxOff0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait, yup, you're right. Whoops
[–]PM-ME-YOUR-SEXTAPE10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Same bro. I like luxury and my career path makes me a huge target for BB hunters. But you realize they need your permission: your commitment, to win. So never marry. It's fun banter material: tell her to start looking for a husband etc. This is how harems get built
[–]chance013 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women hold the keys to sex. Men hold the keys to relationships. This is truth.
[–]absolucion43 points44 points45 points 9 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
What are you going to do with this information? If I were you and were also a vindictive asshole, I'd play the long game and string this asshole along until she comes to claim her prize.
[–]eibendrinkin 37 points37 points37 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'm definitely not letting her get what she wants. For now, I'll probably play along and be nice to her and focus on every woman, but her. Oh and for sure realize every time she comes back to kiss me or have sex, she's doing so to give me false hope and keep me in her orbit.
[–]Charles_Vane22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
hopefuly your sniped cuse she may go with "oops i'm pregnant"
[–]pinkerton_jones9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously take this seriously.
[–]Lo-G14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't fuck her. She. Will. Get. Pregnant. And you will pay for it. But string the dumb bitch along and fuck her over when the day has come.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And she's doing so with the residuals of 100 dicks in her mouth
[–]The__Tren__Train12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
get a vasectomy, freeze some swimmers, and then keep her around until she's 30 then dump her LOL
the long con
[–]fnordsnord 25 points25 points25 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'd spin her like a plate. Never offer commitment, but diddle her any time she's willing.
[–]sj2k28 points29 points30 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
^ What he said but wrap it up
[–]dingman5830 points31 points32 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely wrap it up. That's her power play: babies.
[–]dw0r20 points21 points22 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And make sure that they're condoms that YOU bought and brought.
[–]NintenJoo16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And if you go to her house, wash them out and flush them. Don't let her keep them.
[–]vagbutters6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Still not worth it-- false rape accusations can come into play with such women.
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[–]meh6131 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shouldn't be blatantly posting it here either. I get that this is a man's space and you don't expect women to read this, especially not the woman it concerns, but, these posts are indexed, along with their comments.
Unnecessary for her to do so. Everyone here speaks like he is the only backup.
See the bigger picture gentleman.
[–]absolucion7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like a solid plan to me. String her along and let her witness you achieving your goals before slamming the door on her face.
[–]LongSchlongAIDS4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait, is she having sex with you? If not then cut ties. You can chase after better women and not screwed over financially. If she is having sex with you then wear a condom and keep your distance.
You are in her orbit everytime you let her back, even if for some "sneaky, I'm smarter than her" sex.
Drop her. Quit trying to prove to her that you are worth more than a backup plan. You fucking failed with this one, move on.
Your tough talk / I got this attitude is transparent.
[–]ArkAngelEV23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Jason bourne it. Long game, no tip offs that you know. When she brings it up, brush it off with "i'll think about it". Never do it. That well is tainted. Live an awesome life brother
edit: Got a couple of PM's about what i meant with Bourne. This > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOtoij98Uc
[–]absolucion5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That sounds like the best way to handle it. The most satisfying part is where she whines about being used when he decides anything is better than letting that leech grab on.
[–]thekingmaker8811 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Who cares what her plan is?
[–]1empatheticapathetic13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Because despite our best intentions, some of us will regrettably fall for our NAWALT unicorn. And this is just today's reminder to keep sharp and stay on our toes. Maybe if OP hadn't heard this he might have slipped up one day, not wrapped it up and it would all be over. And he would have never have known it was all a premeditated act. Knowledge is always useful.
[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's crazy to think how malicious girls can actually be.
Simple. As malicious as YOU LET THEM BE.
[–]RedPill_FightClub9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You should dick her down, and hard! Pound that chipped beef hole, pull her hair, slap her ass and leave a hand-print shaped welt, reach around and choke her as you're doing her doggie style... treat her like a porn whore. Then, cut her off. Don't even keep her as a plate. Replace that bitch. You already know what she thinks of you, and if you're accepting of that, then holy shit, you have bigger problems than this stupid candy hoe.
[–]Haieshu4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should dick her down, and hard! Pound that chipped beef hole, pull her hair, slap her ass and leave a hand-print shaped welt, reach around and choke her as you're doing her doggie style... treat her like a porn whore. Then, cut her off.
Cue the rape charges using whatever bruising she got from the violent sex as evidence. Judging by the way she set her mind on using him, it's fair to say that she's not beneath trying to destroy him once she realizes the jig is up.
[–]chtrchtr_pussyeater8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hit it and quit it. Fuck being a parachute for someone that can't pull their weight in the world...
[–]RPmatrix7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Guys, heaps of girls 'have' a guy like this, some chicks have more than one 'ex' who they keep in touch with "just in case".
I've had several women admit this to my face, espicially when I'm with a plate/gf having drinks or dinner with an excess of women and they are mainly talking with each other, not so much me but of course they know I can hear! I'm quite happy to be a 'fly on the wall' in these situation, occaisionally commenting when someone says something so outrageous or untrue that I can't stay quiet ... ahh good times, as my frame is usually unshakeable which only makes them hamster harder .. or become quiet with the righteous guilt I'll make them feel for being such deceptive human beings (never refer to gender when referring to behavioral issues)
In such situations I've heard women admit to spermjacking, keeping 'old flames' burning, fuck the way this Israeli chick would even come to Australia once a year just to make sure she could keep her Australian Visa and meal ticket 'ex-bf' "under her spell" aka in her frame was FUBAR!
Women like this make Machiavelli look like a beginner!
And these a just a few of the basic methods women use to keep orbiters and exes "under their spell", fuck the amount of guys who have fallen for these 'old tricks' is legion, which is why hypergamy is such a 'given AWALT behavior' ... becoz it is!
[–]ForgotUserID6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
I came across this video yesterday and thought about posting it here but wasn't sure if it'd be welcome. I think you should watch it. I rolled my eyes when I saw it was 33 minutes but once the story started I was hooked. You don't have to be watching the whole time just listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SddZvNQOuFw
When it starts getting towards the end don't smash your computer in anger.
[–]eibendrinkin 5 points5 points5 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Thanks and I'll watch it when I've got some free time
[–]ForgotUserID4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Right, the whole gonna be a doctor thing haha. No worries, just shows you're a good catch.
[–]GutShot9 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Information is currency for women
This has been an issue with me lately, multiple women in my life have somewhat fucked me over because I'm so open about myself, my ideas, and my train of thought.
I don't want to lie but I need to get better at avoiding answering questions.
[–]ForgotUserID0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You tell them something in an answer of "How was your day?" and a week later it's ammo during an argument. Yeah, we've all been burned like that and my dad never warned me.
[–]kanyewost6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
TLDR - You were being lined for for beta bucks and escaped
[–]le_king_falcon12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why the long story. This could be summed up in two words. Bullet dodged.
This girl has failed the vetting process without you even having to try and crack her veneer of decency.
If your frame is solid and your a suspicious and vindictive bastard then play the string along whilst not getting her pregnant. Or cut her off, go ghost and show her she no longer exists to you. Revenge or give her no closure. Both will tickle the "fuck that bitch" itch. However it's a hollow victory either way.
Instead observe the correct and properly red pill way out and just date better women so she knows she has been outclassed by the competition she didn't even think she'd have.
After all the best revenge is doing better in life.
[–]1favours_of_the_moon5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Recently I heard what she said about me. She says I'm her safe bet. I'm in college to become a doctor (Veterinarian) with a scholarship paying my tuition through school and offering me a $100,000 job after I graduate. She says I'm a nice guy and will always welcome her back into my life when she enters because I'll always have feelings for her.
Demand a threesome with her hottest friend.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
One of the first red pills for younger guys should be realizing that their exGFs take a fraction of the time they do to "grieve the relationship".
In my younger days, after breaking up with a girl, I almost felt like my dog had just died. I would talk to close folks about it, and it would take a while. I would not want to date for months.
Well, the difference is that the female hindbrain processes that without a man they will soon die or be somehow worse off. All their female friends have the same hindbrain and get together to set up carousel rides.
That's another early red pill, should be on both accounts at least.
After a break up, most men do not have other men trying to shove vagina at them (mostly because that is hard to do, maybe Chads do have other Chads throwing them poontang to get over a bitch), and respect their grief stage. This is not the case with women.
Single women (especially recently and not by choice) are almost like a female chimpanzee cast out from the troop that still has communication from other sympathetic female chimps.
EDIT: Vet school is very competitive (vet schools < med schools in #). Most vets I know are much smarter than the average family physician. So, this chick thinking she can do this is an example of solipsism (I'd fall for this shit or other men have therefore he will as well). I think it comes down to female difficulty in abstract thinking multiplied by solipsism. They don't realize doing something like programming a computer is likely 1,000 times harder than tying their shoes and showing up sunny in the morning to their job as a nurse, because STEM field require constant analytical and creative thinking that they don't understand or ponder beyond "that seems hard".
[–]fnordsnord 4 points4 points4 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
The last time I looked, there were a total of 23 vet schools in the United States. It takes just as long to become a vet as to become a doctor, and when you're done you get paid shit. Plus, 80% of your job is killing animals, because treating a sick critter is ex$pen$ive, and most people don't carry health insurance on their animals.
It's not a career I recommend.
Other than for an altruistic love or deep drive, I would not recommend being a vet either. For some it seems worth it.
[–]HighPiracy8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
$100,000 a year salary? Might want to go back and check with everyone else in the real world, starting veterinarians average of about $60k a year bro, if you're good. Don't work for Banfield btw.
[–]eibendrinkin 4 points4 points4 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I know it's way higher than what someone coming out of vet school makes. My dad is a veterinarian also and has been working with the state for 20 years now and he had some connections that definitely helped me out.
Also thanks for the advice!
[–]vagbutters2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good for you, man, 100k out of school is no joke. How do you like veterinary medicine? I'm currently doing my rotations in med school but it's cool to see related fields.
[–]KStang08610 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Realize your own value, stay in shape, use her on nights you feel lonely. Otherwise, her lack of loyalty doesn't deserve any commitment from you.
You are the catch. Remember that. You. Are. The. Fucking. Catch.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're reading too much into it, you aren't part of some big plan of hers. All you did was give her validation. (She doesn't live in some bubble where you're the only male on the planet with his shit together. She can lie to them but hey look at this chump that KNOWS me and welcomed me back. Time to line up the doctors!)
Guys, don't waste time with ex's. It's all very tempting I know but there is a reason you two aren't together and if she's coming back it's probably for a little confidence boost and closure. Not an evil genious plan and sure as shit not that she changed for the better.
[–]kidwithambition14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're still beta for sleeping with her again, as soon as a girl drops you, you drop her quick times. Whether she was a plate or ltr doesn't matter, she disrespected you.
You taking her back even for that one night showed her the beta you are. I can tell you are just beta bucks because instead of mentioning an aspiring career where you'd enjoy what you do and be stellar at, you mention the amount of dollar signs instead. Jesus. No wonder she is monkey branching back to you, you're her definite beta bucks.
Lucky for you, you got TRP to slap some common sense into you. Not sure if there is a question in that post, but please do not offer advice when you are in no position to do so. You got a long way to go dude. Good luck and drop that chick.
[–]eibendrinkin 1 points1 points1 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I didn't mention why I wanted to become a vet because it would've made the post longer than it needed to be and was irrelevant. I mainly added that to show that I was a quick money bank to her in a few years.
Thanks man
You didn't need to mention the money period. Dollar amount is subjective and relative.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What I do to avoid this kind of crap is to add a scumbag element to my personality. I'm going to welding school. I build shit with metal. I'm going to probably get a degree in petroleum or mechanical engineering. I'm also a biker. That adds the right amount of AF. You should find some way to add that AF to your life. Learn hunting and butchering. Given you're a vet, this should be easy for you. Meet girls. Many girls in those circles are genuinely sweet and lack the AWALT qualities we despise here. Cut. her. out. of. your. life. You won't benefit from her in any way.
[–]19RomeoQuebec3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You should just smile and wave. Penguins of Madagascar style. Just smile and wave. Don't let that bitch get on your boat.
On a side note, you need to make her do things if you cant commit to cutting ties. Something to the effect of sucking your dick as soon as she comes into your space. I had a chick like this In college. If she wanted to be in my presence she had to suck my dick. Damn my dick is getting hard just thinking about old times.
[–]pinkerton_jones2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well James it seems you need more of a Helen than that harlot. At least you caught wind!
Edit: Just to make yourself safe cut her off publicly and shamefully. Break it hard so she hates you, otherwise you'll be raising someone else's kid.
[–]teek6362 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wtf is a CC?
Damn you kids and your damn abbreviations.
[–]grewapair1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cock carousel. Jumping from one dick to another.
[–]vagbutters1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cock carousel. It's a fairly common abbreviation used here. Refers to the numerous top-tier men that young women sleep with because they are promiscuous sluts.
[–]stawek2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let her think she's right. You will get occasional sex from her and a very pleasant "fuck off" when she finally hits the wall and comes to you for marriage.
[–]niceguy_gone_cad2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LOL, at least she's warning you. Understand that she sees you as a HUGE pussy, that's why she dares to act like this. Don't complicate your life "using" her, if she gets to pissed off she has legal means to fuck you up really hard. Kick her out of your life, and tell her why, better with a text; face to face it might get messy.
[–]mattizie1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you were a bit of a narcisist you could keep up the facade. Keep calling etc. Then dump her when she realises the wall has hit and is trying to go back to you.
I'd personally just let her think what she wanted to think and leave it at that. Not worth the effort.
[–]lennyrego1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's fucked up. This bitch is trying to make you Forrest Gump. My little piece of advice? Run, Forrest, run.
I sincerely hope to god you don't get back with her.
Don't even risk getting her pregnant dude. If I see you here 5 years from now crying on how she divorce raped you, i am gonna laugh at you.
[–]mksu1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly don't know why there is so much surprise over this. It's female sexual strategy 101.
[–]needsomehalpls1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just keep acting like you don't know any better. She might throw you a bone every now and then to keep you interested. And then when she expects you to get on the cucktrain and marry her you laugh so hard and thank her for the free lays and wish her a happy life (with a wink)
[–]RightCrossBrah1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have self respect brother. If you don`t respect yourself, no one will respect you.
She says I'm a nice guy and will always welcome her back into my life when she enters because I'll always have feelings for her.
This is where you string her along for the next 5+ years and then she she finally comes around to "reward your patience", you just ghost her.
[–]yomo861 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Rule of thumb: Any woman you either banged, licked, dated or even had an LTR with who suddenly drops back into your life after she is 28 is looking for a safe bet.
It's like gamblers who just want to cover the spread if the original bet does not work out, and this happens after there are clear indicators of the failing of the original wager -- and those greedy bastards act quickly and swiftly, just like a woman, because as you know, you cannot cover the spread if all others start betting on the safe horse with more money and less to loose driving down the odds.
[–]smokecheck19761 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, just smile. You know what it was. She was paying the maintenance to make sure you are still around, at least in her mind. Let her play her game. You play yours. Next time it comes around, smash it like a hungry wild dog would go after a piece of meat, and when you are done, tell her not to come around anymore, you can even site that you don't want your girlfriend to know if you want.
[–]ReddittFeist1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
@eibendrinkin,
There's another aspect of this situation that you might want to consider.
It's very clear that this girl has put you into the Provider box in her brain, and when a woman does that, only guys willing to hold frame and reeducate massively can change that categorization.
And what being a Provider in her mind also means is that she'll only provide you with Provider Sex. If you want a view of what Provider Sex means for you, look here:
https://rationalmale.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/open_hypergamy_cartoon.jpg
https://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/
Guys have turned this around, but it's a much better use of your time to just move on to a new girl and get yourself into her Lover box.
[–]Jeffornaut0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Drop that chick like a handful of poo. Any kind of positive reenforcement she receives just makes her more greedy. She'll need more and more and more instant gratification. Maybe try fucking a few of her friends or her dog of mom ( or dad ). Basura
[–]Toussant0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine her coming back when you've started working.
Imagine her taking you for an exhilarating ride where you're not even able to consciously say "fuck TRP" before getting back with her. She makes you the provider and continues the CC.
Imagine it all beforehand, so it doesn't happen IRL.
[–]1RXRob0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now that you know all this you should turn her down next time.
You'll have a shit eating grin for a week.
[–]xXxsnabelmannxXx0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should start practising your frame so that you're ready when it happens.
[–]1scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You shouldn't harbor anger towards her, she's just playing her strategy. It's understandable to be embittered, just don't show it. And obviously cross her off the list of potential future mates. Do all of this subtly.
[–]1PantsonFire12340 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Ironically it's your future job and prestigious college education that labelled you a nice guy beta. Women like to put people in neat little boxes. You like X therefor you must be like Y. They rarely give you the time for them to get to know you. I've had girls who thought I was someone I wasn't because of the way we met.
For example one girl who had never gone a year to college in her life met me when I started my first year of college. She thought I was a total bookworm who always studied and shieet. I had not told her I was only trying college out before I went and re-enlisted for the army. Neither did I tell her I skipped and cheated my way through community college. While I spend most of my time working out with the top tier operators who I knew through army connections and getting steaming drunk before trying to reinvigorate my ailing football career.
Ofcourse I never bothered to show her who I was because she was completely smitten already and I had no plans to upgrade her from plate status. Eventually she bounced for some dude who was a minesweeper in the army. Now he was the cool guy and being a book nerd was uncool.
After about half a year I reenlisted in the army as a higher tier operator. This dude literally has to clean up for me before I go in guns blazing. From what I was told he's a total Beta to. But because I appeared as meal ticket I became one. He wore a uniform and so he was the cool dangerous guy. She thought she upgraded even though all it took was one question about my commemorative badges who were nicely presented on the living room wall. But I guess she figured I had won those at paintball.
So the lesson here is that you should always hide or downplay your Beta provider traits and upscale your Alpha ones. Women don't know up from down when it comes to properly vetting guys.
[–]wtf7930 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
TRP saved your life. There was this girl I was into who always said I'd be the one she will marry.
(But not the one she will fuck, because beta bucks)
many women think like this. in fact women in GENERAL think like this. the old cliche about the cock carousel until 30 then they are ready to "settle down" etc etc. the only diff is, some girls have actually planned it out by having that guy as an orbiter, or having on and off flings with him.
some girls on the other hand never go through the slut phase, and just marry or want a serious LTR with the first guy they are sure will make a good beta provider. this sucks for the guy because she isn't attracted to him in the least, and it will be a dead bed room. she will also put on shit tons of weight and not even be nice to him.
basically if a girl wants an LTR with you, you've already failed frame and are seen as a beta. there are posts on here about guys who had FWB type girls, who suddenly started acting "non slutty", when they realised just how wealthy the guy was. if a girl even WANTS an LTR with you, you're a beta, this is what i believe.
i have had so many girls say to me "i don't get in relationships with good looking guys, they are always assholes". after observing their behavior, this translates to "i will fuck alphas with a six pack and chiseled jaw and tats who act like badboys, but i only want to SERIOUSLY date beta male providers, which is why im interested in a relationship with YOU". so i immediately know its a huge red flag if a girl tells me she doesn't date "good looking assholes". it means she thinks im fucking unattractive, i dont make her pussy wet, but i would be a good little beta to squirt out shitlets with and pay for her shit while she gets fat well into her middle aged years. and fuck that shit. if a girl doesnt find me good looking i don't want to date her.
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