I hate you

Modified_Hackware · 2014-10-14T14:39:09+00:00

I hate you = I'm frustrated I cannot control you = I want you.

the99percent1 · 2014-10-14T14:59:40+00:00

when a girl submits to you and assumes your frame, it's one of the best feelings in the world.

ShagggyDog · 2014-10-14T16:50:47+00:00

Honestly, that was way too early for crying. Insecurity level was too damn high. You handled well. But I would not personally want to deal with such a girl. I don't like tears. There must be at least a challenge before you make them cry.

oldredder · 2014-10-14T14:10:55+00:00

Most excellent. In fact the emotional push/pull is also along the lines of /r/PracticalSexAndLove but regardless it combines the emotional roller-coaster with forcing her to realize your value is too high for her to seriously attack your SMV's behavioural component.

Dread game is a skilled but blunt instrument where she has to somewhat directly see the attraction other women have for you. Emotionalizing her into the same state without having to even find the new girls to let her see their reaction to you is much faster, much more skilled & if you are good at it (you clearly are) you don't need to go try-hard mode to get other women involved for it.

You've also building off existing good SMV & her existing proven attraction. Sounds good.

mercuryg · 2014-10-14T22:27:30+00:00

To all you white knights and SJWs in this thread, the problem is you are taking this conversation at face value, you seem to think these lines are serious shots fired.

OMG, you totally hate me. Sounds like I need to start looking for a new girlfriend.

How serious do you think OP is when saying this? Hint: the OMG and the "totally" is the giveaway, he's teasing her, he's not telling her he's gonna dump her, this is all play, that should be obvious.

So OP played the dread card, now she has two options, she could either submit to his frame or reject it.

She rejected it because she wanted to test him some more, she could easily have fired back and poked at his smv "yeah good luck with that" or "you're lucky you even have one" BUT she wouldn't go there because she knows his smv is high, also what would that say about her, would she be in a relationship with a low smv guy? Hell no, that's why she didn't go there, and it's a good sign that she didn't.

So she gave him the tears, and it's justified in her mind, he's talking about dumping me omg time to cry. This is of course just another test, if he had caved and started apologizing and taking back what he said, she would have won, and she would deeply resent him for it.

So OP stood his ground, and won in the end.

4_YRT · 2014-10-14T21:10:43+00:00

the interesting thing about this dialogue is that the actual words being spoken are meaningless. This is all about holding frame, body language, emotional self-control etc. This dialogue could have happened in any language, in any culture.

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antariusz · 2014-10-15T00:10:53+00:00

I've started keeping track of my girl's periods.

Usually about a week after she ends her period she'll start heavily shit-testing like this example (the emotional rollercoasters), and I know I need to up my game and be even more on-point with regards to holding frame.

I was told, "I hate you" this week, in a similar situation. Not even 5 minutes later she was stripping off her clothes in my bedroom and we were fucking like rabbits.

tombreck2 · 2014-10-14T14:29:33+00:00

M: Well, you can't even tell me what words you'd use to describe me. Sounds bad to me. I better start scouting new talent

Stealing this, thank you OP

frazzleddd · 2014-10-14T17:47:32+00:00

Men don't start unnecessary drama unless it's to give a stagnant hamster a good little spin. I would try to avoid this generally.

I don't know why you would initiate a shit test on your own but buy if this is an ltr be careful. You need some beta mixed in and coming off as this douchey is a bad method for long term success.

JesusFuckILoveAnal · 2014-10-14T17:19:50+00:00

Ever since my girlfriend and I were in the car and that stupid rap song said "girls only say 'I hate you' to the guys that they love" and I told her that's her, I quote that same line EVERY SINGLE TIME she says I hate you.... no matter how angry or upset she is. It's hilarious and it's a ride for her therefore good for the relationship.

CrimsonTideCosby · 2014-10-14T20:28:37+00:00

Seems like OP enjoyed playing with her.

SOwED · 2014-10-14T20:56:26+00:00

I've got mixed feelings on this. While what the top comment says about "I hate you" means, at least in this context, the OP shit tested his girlfriend, which is something TRP generally frowns upon as far as I know.

flexiblehold · 2014-10-15T05:38:17+00:00

This is an important thread.

TRP needs more like them to get to black-belt red pill shit. It's interesting how controversial and divided it is, and it's an opportunity for us to see the nuance between maintaining frame, or running good dread, and being an abusive twat.

It is not "sjw," "beta," or "white knight" to say OP is a fucking buffoon. Escalating to "gonna find a new girlfriend," after setting the trap with a feather-preening self-compliment, it's just toying with her. This is literally shit I did when I was 14 with my first serious gf, it was just a way to hurt her, and she would do it back to me, and came mostly out of a combination of boredom and curiosity ("wow, I have this person whose emotions are totally latched to me, I have this power, I wonder what would happen if..."). It is sick and unproductive.

Beyond all of that, good dread is not saying you're gonna leave her, it is demonstrating your capability to leave her while maintaining plausible deniability.

Also, from a long-term strategy perspective (even for those who disagree with my interpretation), escalation like this over nothing just took an arrow out of OP's quiver, or more accurately the nuke from his arsenal -- there's no lever beyond "gonna leave you" other than physical violence. It's like calling your gf a cunt for leaving the light on in the other room.

Talkshitgethit · 2014-10-15T00:30:13+00:00

You are both way too overdramatic, holy shit.

Prostate-Punch · 2014-10-14T14:32:37+00:00

You initiated the shit test. Playing around and teasing her is one thing but I personally don't have time for making drama where there isn't any. The maturity level between you two seems to be lacking plus I'm getting an emotional abuse vibe.

mdadm · 2014-10-15T03:02:58+00:00

Dump the bitch. Who has times for immature people like that?

LibertarianLibertine · 2014-10-14T16:45:31+00:00

Either your girl needs to grow up and stop crying so easily, or you behaved like a douche.

Either way, you invited this shit test on yourself, she didn't start it, you did, and you countered it by bringing her to tears.

I'm going to take a neutral stand on this one.

Dev_on · 2014-10-14T14:29:07+00:00

I prefer subtle. mine was going off on day, and i looked back with feigned concern, said 'man, I must be a complete monster' then carried on

was the quietest walk ever after that

Ghost_Ghoul_Guy · 2014-10-15T04:19:32+00:00

You sound like a douche and your girlfriend sounds like a weak minded person.

You're going to miss a lot of cool things in life.

thisjibberjabber · 2014-10-14T20:28:56+00:00

It sounds like you handled it well generally, but this part sounds like quite a non-sequitur and I can't imagine saying it:

for some reason I declared, "I'm a polite guy."

But maybe there was a natural segue and you just left it out...

Edit: formatting

rydsauce · 2014-10-17T04:53:47+00:00

whenever the girl says anything along the lines of "I hate you" "you're such an asshole" "you jerk" etc. anything ostensibly negative my favorite thing to respond with is, "you're right. I'm the worst" they love that shit

and if she says "I love you" or issues any compliment I like to go, "who, me?" with the obligatory cocky sarcastic smirk

A_Faffy_Lump · 2014-12-02T19:49:07+00:00

Bro... Thats fucking twisted.

TemplesOfSyrinx · 2014-10-15T06:14:48+00:00

Sounds like your girlfriend is a twelve year old.

1)You're a little boy. 2)Grow the fuck up. 3)Find a real woman.

behindtheline40 · 2014-10-14T16:53:21+00:00

I think the crying is caused a little from her instability, and such a easily stated threat to her relationship from her SO. makes her upset that the emotions she has invested into the relationship arn't reciprocal in the light that she sees them. Although I think they are--he just knows how to make her squirm and keep her in check. no real harm done here.

TheObelisk · 2014-10-14T17:46:42+00:00

I get exhausted just reading these red pill stories. You guys sure have monstrous dexterity to deal with women in such a manner.

mega_beta · 2014-10-14T17:29:07+00:00

These "shit test" girly games are so stupid and lame. I refuse to play them. If a girl wants to test me and be a dumbass, I'll kick her out of my house.

SkorchZang · 2014-10-15T01:23:28+00:00

Well fucking done, dude. It's beyond textbook, just perfect freeform sexy uncontrollable villain game.

RedPillFusion · 2014-10-14T20:03:54+00:00

This isn't RP at all. These are the actions of a bully, whose victim is only prey because she's likely very very weak.

There's a big difference between a man initiating sexual banter through teasing and beating up the weakling in the schoolyard just to show you can.

What happens to bullies? They eventually become exposed for tje weaklings they actually are, and then all their faux power is gone.

Now. Giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you're a RP newb, your aim is off here, brother. The tactical strategies once the conversation was started are not what's wrong. It's the strategy.

If you have to fish for a shit test, you are the one giving the shit test.

Otherwise, this is just a gender-reversal where she's the beta.

Feel me?

And still assuming you aren't the billy depicted above, I know you can handle all this. She needs (and is attracted to) your strengh, not your pimp-n-ho tactics.

shelcod · 2014-10-14T23:56:49+00:00

More proof that women are just older toddlers.

markmann0 · 2014-10-14T16:10:05+00:00

I read a lot of things on this subreddit, and a agree with a lot of them, but you were just being a douche. If I heard this happen in a public place I would have trumped you and agreed with her she needs a new man, and given her the opportunity to have one. Don't be a dick, be a man.

The down votes cometh. This subreddit cracks me up at times.

N165 · 2014-10-14T17:37:11+00:00

Edit: In case it's not clear, the "I hate you" is said playfully, with faux scorn and a smirk she can't hide. She's verbally saying "I hate you" but what she really means is "I hate that I love the way you don't fall for my shit and I love you for it".

So you've managed to double-think so hard to the point where "I hate you" means "I love you." She was crying; I really doubt she was also smiling.

And now you've come to /trp for validation?

I agree with Prostate-Punch, you're being emotionally abusive. Taking it too far.

chasethenoise · 2014-10-14T19:42:32+00:00

Welp. This sounds just like me and the fiance. I'm not coming here anymore.

Title	I hate you
Author	rp-oldgame
Upvotes	138
Comments	121
Date	October 14, 2014 1:48 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2j7rse/i_hate_you/
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