The Why of Feminism

cupshadow · 2019-05-19T07:40:31+00:00

One day I stopped to think if feminism will ever stop, if one day they will say "Well, that's it! All the goals in the checklist are fulfilled, our work is done!" But then you realise that everyday some new idea, something new to fight for appears. First it was the right to vote and work. Now we are talking about entertainment, male spaces, woman in power, etc. It's just like the wife who is never happy, keep making demands and the obedient beta husband who obeys every request, only to wonder why she still hates him. But this is happening in global scale, taking demands from woman who have nothing to do with us. So when you put yourself first, you start to see there's nothing to gain from all of this. You sure aren't getting more pussy either: one may argue that you are getting even less. It's just better to cut away from the hive mind and pursue ideas that serve you.

Thanks for this insight.

678317450uhtnngkdsh1 · 2019-05-20T21:36:36+00:00

Feminism is the societal version of a girlfriend telling her boyfriend "you only want me for sex". It's just a massive shit test that the Western Men have collectively failed since at least the 1960's.

BlindingTwilight · 2019-05-19T00:22:57+00:00

Yes it is a tactic and yes feminism exploits a natural male urge to protect and serve the weaker sex. However feminism has worn many masks and the fourth wave mask is the worst of all. Fourth wave feminism is a nebulous and toxic pattern of thought and it’s core myth was correctly identified by Esther Vilar in the Manipulated Man. Fourth wave feminism is actually a subconscious delusion based on penis envy. However in it’s most recent form it has degenerated even further than third wave feminism. What we have now is the second version of a delusion which has now been co-opted by the ugly fat girls at the back of the class.

I advance an idea now which I have not seen anywhere else. Fourth wave feminism is actually about the fat ugly girl at the back of the class trying to ingratiate herself to the pretty/popular girls. Fat girl at the back of the class realises that the hot boys will never like her, she knows that she can never win them over so they become the object of her hate. Make no mistake, this hate is deep seated and subconscious and has grown inside of her since she before she entered puberty. Her abnormal psychological development as an adolescent leads her to a gender studies class where she claims a new identity for herself a champion for ALL women. The men will never like her so subconsciously she clothes herself in virtue and rebrands herself as the defender of wimminkind.

The pretty girls never notice her, she becomes a caricature and there are a noisy minority of these characters. The chihuahua effect is now seen in action. The minority makes the most noise and these fat ugly girls who do a gender studies course are now ably assisted by soy bois and betas who rally to their cause. This is the weak males with bad genes who mistakenly think that by vocally supporting wimminz rights as explained to them by the blue haired pigs that they orbit. These useful idiots then start to join the far left wings of various institutions and eventually move into positions of power. With their dysfunction now clothed in virtue. the fat ugly girl at the back of the class now has what she always wanted, attention.

Auvergnat · 2019-05-18T23:20:53+00:00

Thanks for yet another insightful post Whisper.

The usual progressive philosophy that culture or social movements exist as entities somehow independent of the individuals acting through it is complete bollocks, leading to incredibly stupid assertions such as “the Patriarchy^TM hurts everyone, including men”. Culture and social movements arise as a by-product of individuals acting in their own interest as you asserted in that post. The social movement known as "Feminism" repeatedly arises from a large amount of individual women acting in their own interest (“Please help mister, I am a poor innocent woman being oppressed by an evil man/context/tradition/flat-tyre, please help me!”) and men acting in their own interest (“If I help this woman, she’ll see me as a hero and let me fuck her!”).

It always makes more sense to me to analyse cultural elements this way rather than seeing them as agents of their own right, such as Heartiste’s ”the goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality” or Dalrock’s ”feminism is the assertion that men are evil and naturally want to harm women, followed by please to men to solve all of women’s problems”. These are not wrong but these are only observations of the large-scale symptoms that arise when a large number of individual women, at their individual small scale, wanting shit and manipulating men to get it.

Bridgeboy777 · 2019-05-18T20:34:31+00:00

Most of the political world makes more sense once you think of it in terms of power struggles instead of ideological struggles. It's important to remember, though, that the people seeking power do believe what they're saying. It's just that they came to those conclusions through rationalizations after the sub-conscious part of the brain said, "I want this." You're wasting your time if you meticulously to address each rationalization head-on since they were only incidental to the demands in the first place.

DailyManliness · 2019-05-18T22:25:40+00:00

I’ve been talking about this a lot lately. Especially with the Game of Thrones fury. Every single piece of entertainment is riddled with tiny women being the heroes. People aren’t even realizing why they’re furious over GoT but subconsciously this is why. Jaime Lannister was built up to kill Cersei, and Jon Snow to take over the throne/kill the main villain. But the show did a 180 from built up storylines because of this feminism narrative.

I saw John Wick 3 too and if you take out the 20 minutes or so of Halle Berry,it’s pretty perfect. It’d be an hour 40 minutes of an alpha male. All of this stuff is meant to weaken dudes. So future generations are weak too. We see how men are with absentee fathers but beta fathers who are present may be just as bad

I’ve been pointing this entertainment brainwashing out recently and have been met by the hordes of manipulated men you speak of. It’s terrifying and sad, TRP should be a necessity and it explains why it has been quarantined. My own site was wrecked via SEO and I know heartiste was recently shutdown as well. And it’s all to hide the realities brought forth in this post.

Yakatonker · 2019-05-20T17:06:06+00:00

Feminism is a Population Control control scheme

The government exists only to enslave and control you. Feminism by extension is an advanced bulwark to advance the interests of the "monied masters". The most obvious one is the "depopulation agenda" as should be blatantly obvious to anyone here who understands Hypergamous "blowback" when the perceptible pool of "acceptable" reproductive men being actively destroyed, via the "war on boys and men".

Feminism is also an effective population control tool for societal censorship. Obvious and perceptible reason being women control the inflows of social capital in any human system. This means women are a tool of the state to correct "wrong think", and they do it well being that they're women to begin with. But empty vessels guided by the superior and reigning power of any region. It also helps they have an ingrained biological predisposition to conspire with their social network, the "sisterhood" to advance their sex specific reproductive agenda.

Feminism as created by the "monied masters" has essentially taken full control of this "sisterhood" and its machinations for the purpose of controlling the population. Some think there's "resistance" in the current US Administration, but such ideas are completely laughable, especially when Trump himself is a Feminist, his daughter Ivanka Trump having hundreds of millions of dollars by her Father to advance "social justice" causes. It also doesn't help that Ivanka Trump recently turned down an offer to run the World Bank, so that she could promote Feminism abroad...

Trump, who is touring Africa to promote her Women’s Global Development and Prosperity initiative, played a role in choosing David Malpass to lead the World Bank instead, she said, adding that he'll do an "incredible job."

Today most people now practice what is called "sterile relations", where in the past the function of basic copulation created a high probability of a reproductive incidence. No longer is that the case. Now we have thundering feminist barbie dyke billionaire women such as Gunhild Stordalen funding blatant pseudo scientific trash like Veganism. The Journal Lancet all but surrendering their airs of impartiality to peddle a depopulation diet.

Is Feminism naturally occuring? Yes and no. As a population control scheme it certainly does have a regression for control in massive macro economic empires, such as the one under the Bank of International Settlements. When the monied masters require ever greater control Feminism or its "sisterhood" equivalent is indispensable in controlling the disorganized masses. However in none centralized systems where war is predominant and inevitable, Feminism or its equivalent is far less likely to occur.

Quo210 · 2019-05-19T03:18:27+00:00

nicely put, but I don't think it ends there.

There's more. The complexity of the movement has only grown. Every week it looks more on the ground of a social dictatorship that intends to create a new aristocracy. The new proletariat is not going to be compossed by blue collar workers, but by the men.

Intersectionality allowed them to create a new system of privileges by "disabilities" (their twisted concept of it), giving blacks, LGTB, etc. better positions in the oppression scale to have reasons to hate men.

Once I could have believed women did things because they want something. They don't know what they want. But the elites directing this know what they want from society.

bibalong · 2019-05-19T00:51:13+00:00

Feminism isn’t a movement, and it isn’t a philosophy. It’s a tactic.

This is extremely apt and insightful, was this original to thi article?

re4d3 · 2019-05-19T07:05:42+00:00

My theory is simple. Women in the past needed, in order to survive, to attach to a man. Due to hypergamous nature, in most cases they were forced to settle with worse than they would like. Now they say, we want to fuck whom we really like. The question is, who will pay the bills. So bills are paid by government (single mom support, quotas for women, state buerocracy 60% female etc.) and women fuck whom they like, at least until they are young. Society goes to hell.

Limit the size of big government and many ills of modern society would disappear.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-05-19T13:53:50+00:00

Great article. Concise, to the point, and explained in laymen's terms. I often feel the message of some posts get lost in needless attempts to sounds more intellectual than is necessary.

' Feminism isn’t a movement, and it isn’t a philosophy. It’s a tactic. '

Great awareness. It makes me realise that most times I've seen women push with a feminist frame, it has been in order to get something.

If it was just a simple movement, people would simply argue the equality of genders, then leave it. But no, it has to go on and on, because they want to get get get.

It's mass manipulation. It took me a long time to realise I was repressing masculine behaviours and desires, and taking the white knight view for shit I never even committed.

Seriously, honey, if we're equal and you all want the same as men, go out and fucking earn it. I've never once in my entire life witnessed, known, or been aware of any women suffering oppression.

Anybody tries to guilt and shame me, in order to advance their imperative....Fuck Off. That's my rebuttal tactic.

HelloTims · 2019-05-19T03:04:46+00:00

I'm not sure this is completely wrong, but it's definitely leaving out some very important details in the history of feminism. The core of this post seems to be this:

Feminism is the act of using shame and guilt to evoke the male protective instinct.

That’s it. That’s all. Think about how it works: 1. Find something you think is a problem, that affects you (a woman), regardless of whether or not it affects mostly women, or affects you because you’re a woman, or has anything to do with being a woman at all. 2. Construct a narrative that frames this problem as unfairness to women. 3. Relate this narrative to any man who will listen, and tell them that they personally are oppressing women unless they change their behaviour to fix this problem for you. 4. Repeat until men give you whatever it is you wanted.

But feminism is not women exclusively guilting men to do stuff, it's also women taking it upon themselves to exert influence to change policy themselves. Prior to WWI, women had very little power and independence. They needed to marry a man to support themselves, because there were piss poor job opportunities for women. Then WWI happened, all the working age men went to war, and factory jobs opened up for women which gave them a degree of independence and economic power, letting them do things like demand the right to vote.

The same pattern happened in WWII, and women were able to push for more equality. The next major phase was probably the wide spread adoption of birth control, condoms, and the legalization of abortion in the 60s and 70s. Before, if a woman wanted to have sex, she risked getting pregnant, meaning it was very risky for a woman to have sex with a man she was not confident would be loyal to her. And even if she was having sex with a loyal husband, getting pregnant greatly damaged your ability to work, so it'd be a dumb idea for any company to hire a woman for an important position when she could get pregnant without warning. After birth control, condoms, and abortions, women were in the same position as men and could have sex with whomever they wanted relatively risk free, and could again push for more rights.

I'd say a major reason why women have fewer rights in the Muslim world is because the Muslim world never faced an existential threat where they needed women working in the industrial base so men can go to war or else their government would be externally overthrown, and also that abortion is illegal.

majani · 2019-05-19T08:42:37+00:00

This is in line with the theory that feminism can be taken as a giant shit test, and the standard shit test responses are appropriate in dealing with it.

rookieMale · 2019-05-19T07:48:23+00:00

Don't have much to add to this. Thank you for this enlightening article!

GodOfDinosaurs · 2019-05-20T18:29:10+00:00

So why do feminists come to the (verbal) defense of third world peasants who treat women as cattle?

Are there actual examples of serious feminists doing this? Most (actual) feminists are highly critical of the treatment of women in the Middle East.

DancesWithPugs · 2019-05-21T11:50:34+00:00

Build your own domain.

The system is designed to extract financial and emotional energy from us as efficiently as it can. Big Brother doesn't really care about your problems, guys. We need to organize in the real world and make stuff.

Asperger_Mgtow · 2019-05-29T01:34:27+00:00

I believe this is a scam that was socially implanted by means of using asperger women doing male jobs into all the females. Asperger women have a brain that's similar to the one of men, yet having a fully functional femenine body. Seems like a brand new syndrome.

Women never intended to come up against us the manner it happennt, this rubbish is manufactured.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4158978/

Secret societies ruling our world has a massive crime to explain to us....

InSalts · 2019-05-20T01:16:07+00:00

Feminism only works in certain hierarchies, particularly amongst the west is corporate shitholes rife with blue-pilled inclined men who have gotten power over red-pilled inclined men. They are as weak to women in the boardroom as they'd be in the bedroom.

Look at silicon valley 1.0 (your pre-Cook Apple, Bill Gates wielding his Microsoftie, 70-90s Gaming, early Nasa). Men that got ahead on merit. Much different animal than Silicone Valley 2.0 Cuck Edition.

Think people like who Tim Apple masquerades as.

If the beta-archy got wiped out tomorrow, so would this bullshit. Would patriarchy rise again? Only in so much that it was relatively meritocractic.

This is what civilizations are at the begining. Meritocractic. Because if they weren't, they'd be wiped out by the next group. Unfortunately, time and success gets us away from the roots and beta-archy takes hold, but only as long as the civilization as a whole can withstand external pressures.

Look at the west now. Trannies, limp wrists, idiots talking woman's rights (rights to what exactly? They can do anything they want, including bitch, whine, and moan all day long). Men with cuckold fantasies, and the list of shit keeps going on.

It's practically begging for an assraping.

Venny_1 · 2019-05-20T03:52:34+00:00

I have a question for you u/Whisper:

in your scheme of feminism being a tactic of shame and guilt, where would you place hyper-feminist women who go to immigration sites and the fuck the living hell out of "immigrants" in the likes we've seen in Sweden and Germany? I'm leaning towards these women cucking the men of their own ethnicity/ nation.

Shadow_Of_ · 2019-05-22T15:49:03+00:00

Feminists not going after muslims is a strawman.

backdoorinvestor · 2019-05-31T05:37:21+00:00

Glad this was pinned. A very good read and info is easy to digest.

xoxuv · 2019-06-04T00:38:27+00:00

Something missing by the author is that feminism is well financed and organized.

The same narratives, the same metoo scandals (copy pasted) are simultaneously done all around the world.

Is not possible to happen it all simultaneously, and to have the same ideology pushed on all radio, tv, movies, newspapers, magazines, all around the world. All the same, with no local flavors, without it being centrally organized. And that costs billions.

AshyLarry27 · 2019-06-04T20:39:34+00:00

Feminists have turned society upside down. The irony is out of control.

Men are typically attracted to the typical quiet, submissive, bookworm girl. Feminism tells women instead to go out and get jobs, be leaders, show less emotion and show the world "girl power" instead. Women are typically attracted to confidant men who are in control of their emotions, who lead, who maintain frame, and go after what they want. Feminism instead tells men to be more submissive, emotional, go out of their way to put women on a pedestal.

red_philosopher · 2019-05-18T20:43:45+00:00

I just posted something similar about how morality is bullshit and it's only about what we want and what we don't want.

Everything is a mismash of desires.

TheRedPillRipper · 2019-05-18T22:50:12+00:00

Feminism is a tactic but it’s poor one because despite it’s pop culture success; whenever you motivate another human out of fear, guilt or shame; you’re hold a knife to their throat. Problem is you’ve got keep holding the knife. Feminism becomes hostage to their own tactic. Slowly we’re becoming more aware of this.

Become immune to guilt and shame

The why and the how fascinate me because Feminism as a tactic is easily hijacked. If you’re LGBQTIXL you can shame and guilt the masses to stepping into your frame and cognitive dissonance be damned.

The antithesis to the tactic of feminism is to cultivate a Bulletproof Frame. If you’re steadfast and strong the knife of feminism can’t cut you. We’re just fortunate here that we we’re self aware enough to counter. Thanks for the enlightening u/whisper!

Godspeed and good luck!

Title	The Why of Feminism
Author	Whisper
Upvotes	187
Comments	88
Date	May 18, 2019 8:04 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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