Hello! I just want to say how happy I am that a subreddit like FDS exists and how much it has helped me even though I'm not a woman.
That being said there's just one thing I can't seem to get over and that is me being an average 5 inches. Although I am fully aware that I am average it seems like I am small given all the posts regarding size and the comments section being full of "6 inches is min", "bigger is better", "even if it doesn't fit it's still fun to play with", and stuff like that. Now, I understand that everyone likes what they like and that the comment section has some bias like everything else, but what do I do?
The answer I get from guys is usually "just use your hands & mouth" but if that's the case why not just find another guy like FDS suggests who is big. I don't have a problem using dildos/strap-ons but that just seems unfair to the woman I would be with and it would feel like a desperate attempt to keep them from finding someone better (even though I would never do that).
As of right now I can only think of a few ways to avoid disappointing women:
1.) Having a kind of open relationship in that she is poly but I am not
2.) Have a relationship with a woman who is asexual
3.) Don't have a relationship at all.
I know the question may seem silly (probably because I'm 22) but this is something that really keeps me from eventually even wanting to try and have a romantic relationship in my life. What's the point in trying to have a romantic relationship when I'll only get rejected because of my size. I could have a stable career, be a well mannered interesting person, be physically attractive, and be an affectionate attentive partner but in the end my size is what will get me rejected or, worse yet, have her settling for it.
I don't know, It just seems like there's little hope for me being in a meaningful romantic relationship given my size. Also, I know this is awful for me to even think, but I would appreciate it if no one made fun of me or laughed at me. Although I wouldn't blame anyone given all the bullshit men give women about their bodies.
Any advice/help is extremely welcomed.
Edit:
Thank you to all who replied! I'm sorry if my question seemed silly or irrational but this is something I have struggled with for quite a while now since I had no one to talk to about this who I thought would give me good advice.
Again thank you to all who took the time to respond to my question and help me recognize my concern as an irrational fear!
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It’s worth considering that different women have different preferences. I’ve known size queens who wouldn’t stick around with a man that isn’t well-endowed. I’ve known women who don’t mind a smaller-than-average package. Imo, size matters to an extent. There are other ways to help your partner orgasm. Be a passionate and proactive lover that pays attention to his partner’s preferences and needs and you hopefully won’t have many issues. Rest assured that, for most women, the fact that you have an average-sized penis is not a bad thing. It’s not about what you’ve got — it’s about what you do with it.
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dude. mgtow. we love you.
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I think you're overthinking this. If you are a high value person in general and have great traits, no one is going to to care about your 5 incher. The average is 6 inches isn't it? The issue comes where you have no personality or are not doing your job as a good partner, then your lack of sexual compatibility is going to be amplified. But this one trait won't make or break an otherwise great person. Not all women are size queens. So just chill. You don't need to go asexual or poly or whatever, what an overreaction. Put your focus on how you treat someone, not things you cannot control. It sounds like you may have anxiety and irrational fears and should be trying to build up your self-confidence. You sound down on yourself and depressed, with all due respect. Get some confidence and self-worth.
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For what it's worth, I think most women who have gotten to know you over a period, where everything else is going well-they're not going to leave you just for this if you've fostered a true connection with them.
The anti small penis comments you read are always in conjunction with douchebag behavior. Trust, women don't just insult for sport, there are always accompanying reasons lol.
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dude. these ladies will destroy you without compassion. don't you read the sub?
they're eliminating lvm from the gene pool. it's evolution in action!
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im not freaking out. I've read these sentiments in the sub. I don't do anger. im a Buddhist, I don't care about my genetic legacy.
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The average is 4-5 inches pretty sure. Not trying to be a pickme ofc in hindsight bigger could potentially be more fun? I guess to play with?
But it depends on the woman and her female anatomy. I find I’m just not “built” to be taking 8 inches. I’m built for the average. That doesn’t mean I don’t find a large dong attractive. But is it realistic for me? No.
I wouldn’t worry too much about it, I would say size is not a dealbreaker for most women as long as you are giving her the pleasure she desires (ex. Oral/ finger play). Foreplay is so important for us. My desire for a man instantly decreases when he acts like pleasuring me is a “chore”. Unfortunately yes there are men like this who don’t give a rats ass. Also, creating the desire is equally as important - many men don’t bother giving words of affirmation during sex. I mean simple things like telling her you want her etc, is so sexy. I need that verbal/emotional bond with you.
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I'm stumbling upon this conversation months late, but I was really struck by it.
I second the previous commentator who says penises matter wayyyyy more to guys than they do to ladies. Sure, every woman has her preferences and standards, but I can't remember the last time my girlfriends and I brought up a guy's dick size. Firstly because it's crass and secondly because we're more concerned about his character, how he treats us, etc.
I died a little at your post where you suggested a one-sided poly relationship, or dating an asexual woman. Don't let this overblown dick issue fuck with your head.
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Honestly I think a lot of the 'small dick energy" "and his dick was tiny" comments are just a flippant way to rag on a dude. It's something we know guys are sensitive about so if the dude is a horrible human we'll throw that insult out. Yea, its' shitty but it's def a reaction to being treated like shit.
Guarantee 100% any woman who's partner makes her orgasm 100% of the time doesn't give a FUCK about the size of his dick and would never say it's small.
I dated a dude for 2 years with a very small penis. He was never able to produce his own testosterone, ever in his life. I've never ever ever told anyone his dick was small. I didn't care. I couldn't care less. He was always affectionate, we had a decent relationship and he was an incredible human.
The worst dude I dated had a GIANT dick. But he was addicted to porn and could BARELY get hard. It was the WORST sex of my life.
As everyone else has said, it's something that society may make you feel bad about, but you shouldn't.
Dudes aren't wrong BTW. Work on your oral & finger game. I think a strap on would be weird but I'd wager most women would like their man to use a vibrator on them. We just want effort. We want someone who wants to learn what gets us off.
And most women can't get off on PIV. That's just how it is. And a big dick doesn't fix that.
Every man should work on their oral&finger game TBH.
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I can only speak for myself, but I don't care so much about my partner having a huge wang. I've had mindblowing sex with an average sized guy and also with bigger dudes... Great sex is always some part chemistry, and some part technique and attentiveness, not so much size.
You can't control chemistry. It's either there or it isn't. But you can learn to be a better lover and you can be attentive and sensual. The worst is some guy who thinks he knows some magic technique that his ex liked and won't listen to what you're telling him you do and don't like. Don't be that guy. Yes, read up on things women like, but be malleable and pay attention to the woman in bed with you like and how she's responding.
And always, always reciprocate and make sure she's climaxed if you did. Sometimes women can't come, but you should at least get an A for effort in trying, lol.
Also, there's no need for polyamory unless she's 100% into it. Don't suggest it to a woman who hasn't brought it up herself. I would be turned off completely by a man that was willing to share me. That's not the type of relationship I want or the kind of man I want to be with.
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