𝕿𝖍𝖊 #1 𝕿𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕶𝖎𝖑𝖑𝖘 𝕬𝖙𝖙𝖗𝖆𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓.

StonerDucky · 2020-09-18T05:54:08+00:00

Funny i see this rn, cause its exactly what im doing ://

Fatboy6060 · 2020-09-18T07:21:59+00:00

This is the most important thing people need to realise on this sub. Neediness is the biggest killer in attraction and the most important thing everyone needs to remember. Good post

IntrovertedButSocial · 2020-09-18T08:44:00+00:00

Someone once told me:

“Women are like cats. If you go seeking their attention, they’ll run away or avoid your affection. Just wait and they’ll come to you when they’re ready for attention.”

nocnydrwal · 2020-09-18T05:21:51+00:00

Had to upvote for the fancy font.

2020-09-18T06:19:11+00:00

I've done all the options. Getting that in between can be hard sometimes but man it's amazing how it works 😂

Pringles__ · 2020-09-18T08:20:15+00:00

Very spot on.

Stop caring about what she thinks and start caring about what you think. Instead of trying to impress her, see if you are interested by her and assess if she's interested. By doing this, you'll be able to escalate genuinely.

Pringles__ · 2020-09-18T07:56:38+00:00

Good post. It's a tough fight being a virgin till now and seeing everyone else getting it. I talked to around 20 girls in the past year, after I started dating after a hiatus. I wasn't able to sleep with any of those but learnt a few important things. Being confident in your skin and not being too needy is among the first and foremost of those.

I just didn't understand this soon enough, I used to bombard those girls with too much affection and memes and stuff.

Like I reflect now and realize like Damn, such a big simp lol. But it's clear now, where I need to improve, why I need to do it and still going strong. Doing cold approaches, meeting some online but most importantly being happier in my skin.

Educational-Tie5732 · 2020-09-18T09:47:09+00:00

Thanks I need this, I lost her but the truth is I never had her. Nothing to lose

daveinpublic · 2020-09-18T07:54:04+00:00

This is so true. When you stop being needy, the world reacts more positively to you. It’s like everyone is connected... if you pass on one beautiful girl, another beautiful girl will sort of pick up where the last one left off.

But what it also takes, is some effort in the basics... like getting a haircut that looks especially good for you, invest in some nicer clothes, basically investing you, get good cologne, makes a world of difference. I bought a few suit coats. Buy a ring, a watch, blah blah, just think it through.

But then have some discretion, and don’t fall over yourself tryin to get the girl, and she’ll value you. If you don’t get her, another will pick up where she left off. Just keep meeting those girls.

njugiste · 2020-09-18T10:37:51+00:00

I thought people said one should have humor to attract someone.

People are scared to mess up and that's alright. Therefore stays in the shell. Probably because something happened to him at one or several his lifetime. Perhaps he was never encouraged and appreciated for his personality or making any moves, whatever and however that statement goes.

2020-09-18T12:17:39+00:00

This is partially what people mean by “be yourself” just chill homie, it isn’t the end of the world.. thousands of others will want your time if you believe it.

Also being relaxed helps you show who you actually are, and that you’re comfortable with your true self.. not something you have to fabricate because you’re hiding an insecurity. People think “oh I’m a nerd I have to hide that” not really, if it’s a genuine passion and it’s positive it can be a plus for you

CustomAlpha · 2020-09-18T10:30:50+00:00

Your number 1 & 2 points contradict each other... too physical when not appropriate and the part about being too scared to mess it up that paralyzes him.

Can’t have it both ways buddy. Either you understand yourself well enough to manage the anxiety or emptiness or you don’t. Some days you might have it and some days you don’t.

Absolutes are not absolutely true every day or every moment.

7Saturn7Saturn7 · 2020-09-18T07:48:19+00:00

Didn't read, but can we not do the fonts?

DJGammaRabbit · 2020-09-18T10:49:31+00:00

Jesus, accept that you won’t like every girl. That entire list spawns from forgetting that *you** fucking exist.*

crystalcastles · 2020-09-18T14:29:08+00:00

I feel like a lot of this is nebulous. "just stop needing validation". It's easier said than done to rewire habits that have been reinforced since childhood. However, I am extremely passionate about doing the rewirement work! I'm just looking for suggestions as to how to get to the point of internally validating, and being okay with walking away.

DuckyDoodleDandy · 2020-09-18T07:34:45+00:00

Try not being needy when you're the only person you've ever known to have never been in
a relationship, or when you have never heard the words 'I like you' or 'I care about you' from a girl even though you have already graduated university...

kalz44 · 2020-09-18T12:02:32+00:00

I’m going to play devils advocate, I don’t think neediness, thirst and attachment to outcome is all that bad. Especially considering that you’re not going to go from being needy to not being needy over night. That’s a process. So if you’re needy, might as well own it. Because owning your neediness is a form of non- neediness.

fzprof · 2020-09-18T13:03:34+00:00

Some attachment is fine obviously aha but mostly eso as a novice it should be to have fun, level up and try your luck. Doesn't mean u don't think you are very attractive either but you still need to stay somewhat humble esp starting out.also it's ok to approach girls only that u find somewhat hot and upwards because we have our specific tastes and these girls generally love to spend some time flirting with u xD I realised it is more likely to get a girl if u specifically find her attractive rather than a girl u don't really like but either way if a meh girl gives u approach invitations please just fuck her already

MagnumBurrito · 2020-09-18T13:46:32+00:00

tldr: Have abundance

YetzirahToAhssiah · 2020-09-18T14:03:04+00:00

"If you get her, great, you'll probably be thirsty again in a couple of days."

Ah, crucial to understand this. Outcome independent because success isn't really that fulfilling. Never thought of this.

mmmfritz · 2020-09-18T14:06:00+00:00

That's 5 things.

The only one true thing that kills attraction...

Math skills.

clhawks · 2020-09-18T14:20:52+00:00

This. And women need to learn a thing or two about it as well. A lot of them don't believe they have to do anything. Let the guy do all the work, take all the risk. It creates an entitled mindset, in which no guy is every gonna do enough right. But this reinforces why you shouldn't give a damn what women think of you. You're not a failure if you lose and you still have more to learn if you win. Winning is a mindset, not an outcome.

2020-09-18T21:54:18+00:00

The #1s Things *

babyarmnate · 2020-09-19T00:34:46+00:00

The #1 thing that kills seduction is using that font

yeboinigward · 2020-09-19T00:41:36+00:00

The #1 thing that kills attraction is that title font

aliseyyy · 2020-09-18T12:07:01+00:00

The #1 thing that kills attraction is that font you used.

3dio · 2020-09-18T10:05:25+00:00

Not being attached to the outcome is always good advice...except if you're having babies

Jilluminati1 · 2020-09-18T08:37:50+00:00

Very well said

tmavrodiev · 2020-09-18T11:55:05+00:00

Is it this font?

DajuanKev · 2020-09-18T12:28:15+00:00

I say this a lot, but I love this post. Self appreciation, win win. If an approach goes well, but the circumstances didn't match, the girl will most likely still remember you.

AwesomeGothem · 2020-09-18T12:38:00+00:00

I find that these aren't necessarily problems perse but more of just being a human being. These appear to happen to both genders and what ypu said is right. Just be ok with it.

BurdenofPain · 2020-09-18T12:46:53+00:00

Honestly, just having a strong conversation in which you come across as humorous and confident is the basis. Everything else builds off of that.

Apollo__13 · 2020-09-18T14:50:28+00:00

But can you recover from committing one of these dumb steps?

clhawks · 2020-09-18T15:02:18+00:00

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eyesopen1111 · 2020-09-18T15:04:55+00:00

Have you guys actually tried to wingman in the field and help get someone laid? Extreme thirst or neediness on your buddy's part is simply not going to be the number one problem. I’d say approach anxiety is the biggest problem, then lack of effective conversation skills, third is not having a seduction plan or process. All three of these conditions are facets of or lead to a lack of social poise and social intelligence, and it’s this lack that turns women off the most.

Go try and seduce people and see what goes wrong. Those are your real problems related to seduction. How many people honestly came back with "I’m too thirsty."? Thirst stops game from being smooth, so it’s an issue, but the number one attraction killing issue in Game?

StarsnDiamonds · 2020-09-18T16:34:38+00:00

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left_right_out · 2020-09-18T16:35:53+00:00

Let me preface my comment that I think Tucker Max is a douche, but...

One thing that I took away from his podcast is women want to have fun. They want to be around fun people. So if you are going out to score, don’t. Go out to have fun, and the rest is easy.

Asclepius555 · 2020-09-18T16:38:20+00:00

I suppose there is a balance between getting physical when it's not appropriate (your #1) and then coming out of the shell with ballsy moves.

Geekedphilosophy · 2020-09-18T16:39:06+00:00

Excellent post bro...this is the type of shit I like to see on this sub! Too often all dudes see here is bullshit pseudo psychology nonsense or how its ALL about confidence...good reminder that learning how to read the situation and being self aware of how you are coming off is crucial to building attraction and acting on it accordingly. Solid and underrated advice my dude!

StarsnDiamonds · 2020-09-18T17:47:46+00:00

to get physical when it’s obviously not appropriate.

Any move could mess it up. So he stays in his shell, too anxious to make any moves

How do I find the middle ground ? , If I get anxious

Dominus-Prime- · 2020-09-18T18:20:34+00:00

In short be James Bond (Sean Connery Version)

theSteakKnight · 2020-09-18T18:22:45+00:00

Wow I feel like someone wrote this just for me. Thank you for sharing this.

2020-09-18T18:26:02+00:00

If you accept the burden of rejection, you might be rewarded with the prize of success. It's not a guarantee

Edgemoto · 2020-09-18T18:42:37+00:00

Been there, done that

Cushionpeach · 2020-09-18T19:44:33+00:00

Agree %100 The contrary is also true, being a jerk can lure in a girl attracted to being mistreated, but only a healthy relationship (which is what you want) will sustain when you're yourself. The other side of attraction is pretty complicated once insecurities are involved.

clhawks · 2020-09-18T20:49:08+00:00

"If you get her, great, you’ll probably be thirsty again in a couple days."

You get her by making moves. Sounds like a man can hardly win and again has to make ALL the moves and risk. Whatever. Maybe the women should start doing all the work and we can make a list! Saying this in defense of all the guys out there trying...

erikmalkavian · 2020-09-18T23:01:42+00:00

I didn't have to even read you post OP (I thought when I saw the title Neediness )

Gent_Scholar · 2020-09-19T00:01:20+00:00

Man, as someone whose been this person, but also not, you could look at those two pointers right there, and also look to those if you're in the moment and wondering if you are in fact being needy. It's really all about checking your motives before your next move.

AlwaysGnarly · 2020-09-19T00:06:38+00:00

Holly shit I needed to read this! Thank you!

babyarmnate · 2020-09-19T00:32:11+00:00

The #1 thing that kills seduction is using that font

Moonman08 · 2020-09-19T00:54:42+00:00

Other than mentally catching yourself in the act, are there others ways of obtaining this mindset? Maybe such as working on yourself, which can lead to loving yourself more which can also lead to not being so hard on yourself?

FigN3wton · 2020-09-19T21:07:45+00:00

Simp

relentless_pma · 2020-09-20T08:44:17+00:00

Accept that not every girl will like you, and that you can’t get every girl. If you accept the burden of rejection, you will also be rewarded with the prize of success.

I have to get this in my head. I am affraid of rejection, so I cant get myself to approach.

bayfarm · 2020-09-18T07:37:01+00:00

Are most guys like this?

Jermac102 · 2020-09-18T09:45:49+00:00

I realized this was my key mistake and it makes me feel better because I know I need to work on myself and this has given me time for a lot of self reflection. I thought it was because I was too kind, but you can be kind and still get the girl it's just working on the anxiousness and clingyness. So thank you

BlazePlayz · 2020-09-18T09:29:52+00:00

I'll follow these dumb advice, it literally just leaves me 100% alone, "work on urself" ok now I'm alone for the majority of my life, while other ppl go out regularly and women have hook up sex with chad. This is all bullshit, it's all dumb, self help regurgitated garbage and nobody has been able to convince me different, even when I ask advice on this dumb sub, it's just a bunch of smart asses making fun of me, is this whole sub a LARP? Are u guys even getting laid, I fucking doubt it.

SchoolBusUpButt · 2020-09-18T10:14:02+00:00

number 2 is fonts where k looks like r.

idonthavemeasles · 2020-09-18T11:22:59+00:00

That font is my #1

2020-12-05T04:45:46+00:00

Also, the ugly ass font. Killed my libido

Title	𝕿𝖍𝖊 #1 𝕿𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝕶𝖎𝖑𝖑𝖘 𝕬𝖙𝖙𝖗𝖆𝖈𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓.
Author	StarsnDiamonds
Upvotes	1267
Comments	116
Date	September 18, 2020 5:03 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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