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[–]SalamanderNo3872 54 points55 points56 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
I was engaged up until about a month ago. Her and I were riding in the car one night and we were talking about plans for our wedding. For the wedding and honeymoon we were looking at 20k and then we were going to need about 40k for roof replacement on her house and mine (insurance in Florida makes you replace your roof at 15-17 years regardless of condition). So we were going to need about 60k for everything. I was saving 50% of my salary but realized that we were going to come up short. So I asked her if she would mind opening a saving account and help save for the wedding. That turned into an argument and she didn't speak to me for 3 days.
When she finally decided to talk to me again, she sent me a text that said she was insulted and ashamed that I would ask her to help out. She said that shecwas a proud woman who is accustomed that a man should pay for everything. She said that helping pay was beneath her, she was not fat or ugly nor was she desperate and she didn't need to pay to get married. She said if I didn't have enough money we could just wait until I saved enough.
Well that obviously didn't go over to well with me. Here I am working my butt off, completely stressed out, having to plan and pay for a wedding plus all the extra home repairs. I come to her and ask for help and she basically spits in my face. She has money, her ex husband pays for her lifestyle, home, utilities, insurance, car, everything and gives her $1750. All she pays for is food and a cell phone bill. She has a nice collection of Louis Vuitton and Gucci purses.
So we had been together for 2 years, so this took me a few weeks to simmer on to figure out how I was going to handle this, but I knew it was over when she sent me that text. So I ask her how she thinks we're doing and she says fantastic I told her no. I needed someone who wanted to be on a team,that we should be equal partners and I think she wanted something different. I explained to her that I am willing to pay 95% of the bills but wanted her to work a part time job, 20 hrs a week, contribute something to the marriage. I told her she could use the money for whatever she wanted, we could save if for vacations but it was important to me that she contributes so we are each invested in the relationship. We had plans to live in Europe and travel the world together and with my job we could have done it. All she needed to do is agree to have a job. She broke up with me the next day.
So that is how I find myself single at 44, never married, no kids. I truly loved this woman and did everything I could to make her feel special and feel loved and appreciated but a narcissist really only loves themselves. One of the last things she wrote me was that she didn't know how to love me. 💔
[–]Yerebeets 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh my god I’m sorry my man. But a positive thing that came out of that sudden shitstorm is that she has shown her true face before you guys got married. It’s kind of a blessing in disguise.
Hope you sort this out and find a better significant other in the futurethat’s worth being yours.
[–]SalamanderNo3872 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'd rather find out now than have to pay a spoiled princess alimony the rest of my life.
[–]ProCoDAthlete[🍰] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ya fr it's probably what happened with her first bf. She a gold digger.
[–]teachatthebeach 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You seriously dodged a bullet there. Can you imagine being married to someone with that mindset? Forever?
Find someone who is interested in a partner, not a caretaker.
[–]SalamanderNo3872 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's basically what I told myself. When I told her she needed to get a job I knew the decision she would make.
[–]landlinesr 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You dodged a bullet bro. I'm 44 and going through a divorce from a 10 year marriage. In time, you will be happy you listened to your instincts. She would have destroyed your life in the future with a divorce. Everything you worked for would have gone to her. Good for you for not settling!
[–]cheddarbob01 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Like the other guy who commented below said, you definitely dodged a bullet. I don’t know much about you but it would’ve been a mistake getting married to that lady and you’re lucky you didn’t go through with it. Your life would’ve been a giant mess, better to find out right now than 10 years in when you maybe have kid(s) together and much more things tying you to her. Consider yourself saved brother.
[–]artofmajic 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What made u not see this happening after knowing her ex pays for her lifestyle tho? I just want to know what made u look pass that and think she would be a team player
[–]spacecommanderfap 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You had an angel looking out for you man, she wouldn't have shied away from taking everything from you in the inevitable divorce.
[–]MaxthePuggle 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You’re lucky you found this out before getting married. I was married for almost 15 years and we agreed that after our 2 children were in school she would work. Never happened and it cost a few hundred grand getting divorced. I truly loved her (she loved me too) but it felt like everything was put on me and that’s not how a relationship should be. Good luck you sound like a great person stay positive and the world will deliver true love to you.
[–]SalamanderNo3872 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks brother. I really don't think that it is too much to ask for a partner. Someone who is all in for you and you for them. I think that I can offer the right person a wonderful life filled with exotic travel and adventure. My job offers the unique opportunity to live all over the world.. you name it Hawaii, Italy, Spain, Germany. That's the life she could have had. I'm just not your ATM machine. She has to bring something to the table as well. I should have known better when she told me that she was a Princess and had a room dedicated to her designer purses and shoes. Over 50k worth of LV, GUCCI, and Valentino..
I just look at her ex husband and thank myself that I'm not that guy. Despite him paying for everything including, the house her bmw, all the utilities, and her credit card bills every month, and giving her $1750/mo alimony she still is constantly asking him for money. It's insane..
[–]Alternative_Young_25 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im so sorry bro, never get married…. Its a contract!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i dont get how you guys got the point of being engaged and you couldn't figure out her spending habits and who should pay. this sounds fake to me, or completely ignorant and not having self respect.
She has money, her ex husband pays for her lifestyle, home, utilities, insurance, car, everything and gives her $1750. All she pays for is food and a cell phone bill. She has a nice collection of Louis Vuitton and Gucci purses.
So what exactly about this person would want to make you marry her when you knew this before hand? You sound like you have personal insecurities that you would try to hitch your life with this clearly incompatible person. This isn't meant to be offensive, just that you analyze and not make this mistake for love (and ignore every red flag in the book).
[–]DontTakePeopleSrsly 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m in a relationship because I stopped wasting time on women that didn’t equally waste their time on me. I don’t care how “busy” a woman is, if she wants a relationship with you, she will make the time. Everything else is a bullshit excuse.
[–]Yerebeets 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Totally agree
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s too much effort. I was in 2 and just couldn’t find the time to balance work, study and personal life. I’m also someone who can have massive swings, from wanting to be in solitude for 3-4 months to becoming a socialite. Also, one night stands have led to some of my best stories.
[–]oj47dG 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Well me(22m) getting into a relationship with my girlfriend (20) was kind of an accident.?
She just pretty much suddenly lived with me and I was like whoa. 😂
[–]Master_Musician_223 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ok, I’m curious about how this happened 😂
[–]oj47dG 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well when we met we clicked right off the bat. We both had nothing to do at that time and both wanted to be as much with the other as possible.
So we hung out a lot and it first hit me when her clothes were on my drying rack. 😂😂
Like God damn those are not my clothes 🤣🤣🤣
But I was addicted to her so it was fine and... Yeah that's basically it. 😂😂
[+]Majestic_Meal_5655 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's how yall supposed to do it. Not like everyone else these days still living with your parents post 30
[–]creative_i_am_not 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah just go live with some guy
[–]Sgarden91 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I guess I’ve taken a step back to get my act together better. After many years of many rejections and the occasional fling alone I’ve just decided to make different changes. Over the last two and a half years I quit smoking after 11 years, quit drinking after 9, three days ago I decided to drop porn because I know that’s a deep problem for me that speaks to a lot of other issues and I know that one’s going to be an intense struggle like drinking sort of was since I was a borderline alcoholic (smoking wasn’t too hard). I started taking working out and being outside very seriously, getting better at drums again, making money learning and doing interesting work, eating well and having a healthy diet, being more disciplined about my dress, appearance and tidiness, waking up at the right time and being productive, etc. I’ve also moved to another state and back and between six places in the last three years so that’s put a hold on things too.
So the bottom line is I’ve made fairly little time for it and I’m building up to the right time to try again. I’m training for a new certification right now to add to the heap and getting ready to move again so when all that’s settled I think I’ll be ready to search for women again. But I wasn’t in a good position for it before I started changing and I’ve been fairly busy in the meantime. I’ll figure it out though and I’ll get there. I’m only 30.
[–]sincere_blasphemy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, you are inspiring! You’ve done a lot of work; I hope you are proud of yourself. I’ve been trying to work on myself a lot lately too; outlook, working out, diet, posture, screen time, you name it. It can be really anxiety inducing sometimes; just thinking “there’s so much to work on…”
[–]AlbanischerBauer_ 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Was in a nasty marriage 8 years ago, had a son (who’s obviously 8 at the moment). Because of the corrupt country I live in my ex-wife is able to bribe the law.
Basically, she is trying to take my son away from me after leaving him at 1 years old.
For 7 years of his life, he was raised by his grandmother and me. Now it seems as if my ex wife is going to win 80% custody over my son.
I am absolutely devestated by this.
[–]MO_drps_knwldg 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stay cool, use all avenues at your disposal, keeping being a good dad and fighting for him. The universe will bring things around to you, she will fuck up somehow.
[–]DifficultyLost43 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm 23 and not in a relationship rn. Deep down I feel that it'd be nice to have but the goals I want to do and achieve in life are simpler if I am not in a relationship.
[–]18Mandrake_R00T5 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Second this. To truly be a source of peace giving and joy in another's life, you must first learn to traverse the river that is our own
[–]RawketLegue 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Put this quote on a shirt
[–]SalamanderNo3872 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey as a side note I have an almost 2ct diamond ring for sale
[–]liveultimate 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I decided not to get into a relationship unless I can see myself marrying the girl. Just dating around currently
[–]Hexanophos 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cause I just simply can't get one.
[–]avarageusername 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was in a relationship for over 6 years with a girl I tought was the most trustworthy, genuine and loving person I will ever meet. Well turns out she wasn't. I'm single for the timebeeing, expiriencing that part of life. But I'm torn between serious trust issues and cynicism towards females and missing the intimacy that comes with a long term relationship. Sex is also so much better for me, when you get really comfortable with eachother and learn what you like, start exploring. Don't think a ons with a stranger can compare. On the other hand I do have a lot more free time for work, gym, college, hobbies etc. and I feel more at peace not worrying about all the shit that comes with a relationship.
[–]Vegetable-Mobile-430 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm in a relationship because my girlfriend is my best friend plus having sex with randos is wack yo
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The emotionally unavailable, unattractive, just got out of a relationship is what I attract. Single mom’s flock and I’m just like hard no. I get compliments on my looks and how I dress but that’s as far as it goes. Whatever, I’ll remain single. I don’t need baggage in my life
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
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[–]teachatthebeach 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're not out of the attractive age bracket. I took a few years off from dating to focus on my career and my own wellbeing (my last relationship ended with an argument that resulted in me needing multiple surgeries to fix the physical damage, so you could imagine my emotional state was pretty bad). I was 29 then, and just recently started dating again, at 35. I expected little to no interest, now that my age starts with a "3." I was very wrong, and now that I'm in a better place in life (degree, career, own my own house, etc.), I find I'm attracting better people than I ever did when I was young and dumb.
I'm glad I took time to focus on me, and I am not sure I am ever going to be interested in anything serious with anyone again, so I totally get that, but don't let your age scare you away from dating in the future if you want to.
[–]Walrus72 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
You're rare... Unless you've already got kids and spent your 20s on the c carousel.
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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
It means cock carousel. Basically he thinks most women are whores and their spend their youth having tons of casual sex. That’s why he calls you rare and puts forward the idea of you being a single mom as the reason you’re not dating around. Because he can’t fathom the idea of a woman just being single and alone
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[–]Walrus72 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
LOL.....I didn't accuse you of that. I asked in a round about way. You say you, "only attract guys that....." Have you expressed any interest in any guys? How many "nice guys" are in your friend zone or have you blown off because they are just too nice or seem un-interesting?
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[–]Walrus72 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Interesting....."not physically attracted to him" That's your problem.
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[–]Walrus72 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If you make your ultimate decision based up your first impression, which apparently is someone's physical appearance, you will end up sleeping with the same guys all of the sluts target. There are so many more important things than appearance. This is the main cause of the increase (in the already alarming rate) of single moms. Women these days don't seem to care about how good of a person a guy is, or what kind of provider he is, they only want to bang the guys that all of the other women want to bang. Feminism...LOL
[–]Walrus72 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, you're a mind reader....OK. I can totally understand someone wanting to be alone. If you read the OP does it sound like she WANTS to be alone....or is she choosing to be alone because of bad experiences?
Cock
[–]H8beingmale 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
i assume every guy you dated, he was the one who pursued you, hit on you or asked you out
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[–]H8beingmale 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
has pursuing a guy or asking a guy out ever worked out well for you? did any of those guys end up as your boyfriend?
[–]dheidjdedidbe 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m 24 and single because no girl is interested in anything beyond a platonic friendship with me
Most people I vibe with don't want to settle down. Not up for Hookups. Hence Single.
[–]Markyy47 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im not in a relationship because I guess I’m just me and me isn’t good enough but I’m proud of myself and I know how far and how much I’ve done to get here and I won’t make a little something like being in a relationship or being single mess me up completely!
[–]finderoftreasure 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
I am 25f in a loving relationship. I’m in a relationship because I learned to value myself first, and really taking standards and boundaries seriously. I broke up with someone who was unfaithful strictly because he didn’t meet my standard to be loved and respected in a monogamous relationship. I say that because while I loved him, cared for him and he was perfect in EVERY other aspect of our relationship, being unfaithful was the sole reason I broke up with him.
This might not work for everyone but I started treating my standards and values like a business. I did not budge, and reminded myself that I wasn’t asking for much and if a man (I’m heterosexual) does not possess those qualities I wouldn’t date them seriously. I kept an open mind, took notes (practical ones) which helped me build confidence being vulnerable and emotional.
Prioritizing myself outside of the relationship, aka my personal goals allowed me to be myself and vulnerable. I prioritized health and fitness, and other hobbies. I no longer felt like I lost myself when dating. This allowed me to open up, and be vulnerable while feeling very strong and confident. I found myself shortly after that relationship falling in love with someone who truly loves, respects, supports and challenges me to be a better person. All of which are my non negotiable traits in a partner. I truly believe once you start to take yourself seriously and prioritize yourself, you will exude traits that attract the type of person that will do the same. I am also lucky we are very compatible despite being very similar.
Always open to talk through this with anyone who has questions! I spent a lot of time in relationships with people that didn’t truly respect me. Despite being only 25 I’ve learned a lot about myself in that time. And I’m excited to continue learning new things about myself. The journey never really ends. You just get more confident and attentive when you realize things you aren’t comfortable with.
[–]finderoftreasure 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And if he does I’ll leave again. Compromising my standards are non negotiable. And if all men are this way, I will gladly stay single for the rest of my life.
Being in a relationship isn’t the end all be all, prioritizing myself is. I think that’s what you missed in my post.
[–]backindis 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You may end up single for good
See ya
[–]HeidoKussccchhnnifff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I guess you been burned also so that's where the bitterness comes in.....I'm a dude and like many others can't get a woman to even look his way, missing out on a person who's real, respectful, works, I have no kids so no baby mama drama, and I'm at least decent enough in looks not hideous.....men would like a loyal woman by their side to fuck and also to enjoy life and grow and care for her like no other.......so don't put myself and many others in a category when we know ourselves but never given the chance
[–]backindis -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I’m a guy, dummy
[–]HeidoKussccchhnnifff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
No one said you weren't idiot.....I said you've been burned...could be by another man or woman....but don't categorize the rest of us men because you want to be lame and not man up and keep crying a river
[–]backindis 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Are you dumb? Men are designed to fuck a lot of girls, it’s biology
[–]HeidoKussccchhnnifff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
No they're not you idiot.....God didn't intend for men to "fuck" a lot of girls, did you ever read the Bible? I must be speaking to a kid, because if you're this damn dumb as a grown ass men then get help.
[–]backindis 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You’re a jackass that doesn’t understand biology
Good luck
[–]HeidoKussccchhnnifff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You're a idiot who doesn't value God's teachings, just a loser behind a key board. Get help
[–]backindis 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
god's teachings? you're on a seduction/PUA subreddit
lol?
🤡🤡🤡
[–]4goodluck 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
cuz i’m having the best time of m life rn
[–]fictitious-name 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I honestly have no idea. I was married for most of my 20s but got divorced right at 30. Put on some weight through the pandemic am now slimmer in my 30s than I was in my 20s. Still have my hair (knock on wood) and I've gotten my confidence back up. I remember being 18,19, 20 and picking girls up doing (court ordered) volunteer hours at a food bank. One time a girl I bummed a smoke off in my parents apt complex. Nowadays I go out tonight the bars to play pool and will get approached rarely, when I approach it's generally a good reception but I can never seem to seal the deal.
I've also tried OLD, even paid for month of tinder premium or whatever and I noticed that I got a substantial amount of matches compared to before but I had yet lost as much weight as I have now so my pictures probably prevented me from getting the best results.
So long story short physically I don't feel there's any deal breakers but there must be something non tangible that I'm projecting. Maybe not quite desperation but I think I need to learn how to have the attitude of "I'm here doing MY thing of playing pool. If I see a cute girl, I may or may not interrupt MY time and decide to talk to her." As opposed to going to play pool while I try to pickup girls. Hope that made sense.
[–]SalamanderNo3872 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Love is blind brother. Those are facts that I didn't learn on day one it took time to develop and you tell yourself it's going to be OK until the vail is lifted and see this person for who they really are.
[–]Hey_Its_Q 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was in a relationship for about a year that was so bad and toxic, and then became very unsafe for me. I found myself locking myself in a room to get away from her yelling and screaming. When she broke down a door, that’s when I bailed. She was an alcoholic and lying to me the whole time. Drinking and just mentally abusive. I have ptsd from it.
I waited like a year and a half before letting anyone else in. I did, and it was amazing in the beginning. Then she self sabotaged and just stopped talking to me. A pattern started forming: she would stop talking to me, then say “I miss you” we would start talking again then she would stop. This happened a lot. I essentially became a door mat. It broke me. I really loved the girl.
So after the first relationship, I swore off them and was fine being single forever. Then I let the second girl in and got burned. I’m once again fine with being alone, but if the right person comes along I’ll let them in again. But it might be very hard for me to open up. I’m a very social person, but I never put myself out there or initiate anything with girls. Every girl I have ever been with has initiated everything, which is probably why I end up with these types of women. But I’m optimistic, and working on myself and more importantly my confidence. 35/M
[–]sincere_blasphemy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh wow, that’s a lot to have gone through. I’m so sorry for that, man :( I’m glad you left that abusive partner. I hope things get better and healthy romance will find its way back into your life when you are ready for it
[–]jjboy91 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
100% rate rejection lmao
[–]H8eater 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one wants me
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (46 children) | Copy Link
I am not in a relationship and not going to be, because women nowadays are straight up disrespectful and are not capable of giving me what I want, except for sex.
[–]Yerebeets 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That’s a bit too generalistic, this is the same behaviour as “all men are pigs” and mindset like that won’t benefit you at all.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whatever. Try it and tell me this shit again.
[–]Walrus72 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (43 children) | Copy Link
Most are also total sluts until their asses are blown out..... "ready for a nice guy now"... Hahaha
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link
You know I was thinking about this topic a lot. I came to the conclusion that women nowadays are breed to be sluts and not wives. So why should I hold on to old standards? Why should I live in a dream world while women are prostituting themselves in every kind of way?
To be in a relationship today means being subjected to utter disrespect and cuckoldry. No thank you. I will smash and have a good time. That’s it!
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
And if you don’t believe me. Try it! I guarantee you there will be reckless eyeballing, other dudes that she is texting with and just lies and deception.
[–]HeidoKussccchhnnifff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
I agree 💯 with you......I will say this......I'm tired of turning my head at damn near every woman I see I like a lot flof different types and even plane janes.....and it seems everywhere I go some guy has a woman by their side. So if there are lies and deceptions and sluttiness then are you and I and only a small handful of other guys experiencing this while all the other guys in the malls at the beaches in the restaurants in the lounges with women by their sides all lucky and getting constant putang and don't experience that.....or are they just suckas and don't know there getting played!? Because I see a lot of fine girls and I'm thinking "someone's enjoy a good screw" why can't we get our share!?
[–]Yerebeets 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Jesus christ this comment thread is like a r/niceguys reunion. Get a hold of yourselves and change your mindset. The world is not so black&white, there are good women out there but maybe you are just lack the basic capability to get one
Capability my ass, we are all human, it shouldn't be so hard....and quit saying nice guy, that's lame, people shouldn't have to be a hard ass or some douche bag to be with a woman. If he is respectful, kind, and is nice and women don't want to be with a guy like that then so be it, but for you don't come at his character just because you want to be that guy who thinks he's some hard ass smh
[–]Yerebeets 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s not hard, you literally see everyone having someone by their side, you said that yourself didn’t you? Looks like you are the problem, not women
[–]HeidoKussccchhnnifff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't say every guy, just it "seems" like everywhere I go there's "some guy" who has a woman not every guy in the room. Thousands of men beg to differ which is why they're on here and you tube and other forums posting why the majority of women go after the top 10% of males. No one said women are the problem, and neither are we, it's just they have preferences like we do. It is a concern and as a human I'd like to have companionship like the next man....is that a problem
[–]runaround_fruitcop 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You being human means you just deserve a relationship? That's so bs. I don't just deserve a relationship as a woman either since I'm human. No one on planet earth deserves any relationship they don't foster and care for and actually respect. If you go around seeing every woman as a whore then you don't respect women and thats your issue.
If you're a shitty person and you're not nice to people, you don't deserve friends or a girlfriend. Just because you exist doesn't mean jack shit. We all exist and are all going through crap but people like you can't see past your dick.
If yalls immediate response to women is "ew. Slut" then why would they even want anything to do with you. I bet you reek of this attitude and drive women away
[–]HeidoKussccchhnnifff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Did I say being human means I deserve being in a relationship!? I forgot reddit has a lot of people that just don't answer what is being asked and just like the throw assumptions and dumb ass remarks to feel good about themselves. I said that as a human I'd like a companion, it's in our nature to socialize and want to attract a mate. Is that too hard for you to comprehend? Someone can be shitty but do you know me? No you don't. And again not every man thinks with their "dick" as you're implying, you're way off base on many levels. No one said anything about existing, I said about wanting a companion. There are thousands of men on here that are cool, hard workers, and just aren't the best looking or fit or just don't have the social skills but that doesn't make them a shitty person. Apparently you can't see past your dick since this is the conversation you're leading on, I only mentioned companionship so get your trash mind out of the gutter. I along with many don't "drive" women away, we don't get the time of day at all because we're just not their type, nothing wrong with that. So all I see many men ask is what else can they do to have a cool lady in their life. And here you are talking a dumbass response like that and missing my entire point......anyone else with some sense please reply, so far I'm two for two with clowns that just like to feel good about themselves with the third grade level bs lol
[–]runaround_fruitcop 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"As a human I'd like a companion" so.... a relationship? What makes you think with how you actually view women you deserve a partner? Jesus. You whine and complain and bitch and moan about women and this is how you honestly feel. So, this definitely seeps out in doses in real life. This type of venom can't be hidden. You're your own demise. A Greek tragedy. You seek to avoid what you fear to the point you go too far and actually cause what you fear to come true.
You're so aggressive for no reason. If this is how you react to a stranger online I cannot fathom how intimidating and weird and creepy and entitled you must come off in real life. I bet you're the type when a woman doesn't immediately text back you call her a whore and worthless. At a certain point your anger and resentment and hatred for women will fuck you over most.
How do you realistically expect to have a healthy relationship with a woman when you clearly hate 99% of them?
And why is your goal to have a woman in your life? What's so great about the way you're living that would want to make a woman stay? Because this? This right here? I pray no woman falls for any fake charms because this bitter and jaded and twisted fucker is who you are underneath it.
You are cloaked in anger and bitterness and hatred and it's consumed you. You can't go attract what you literally are so pissed off at. You can't attract what you hate.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Bro fuck the share. I can get sex whenever I want. Most men have a bodycount lower than 10. Of course they will accept that behavior. I am sure a lot of them know what is going on, but they don’t want to believe it. Others don’t see because they don’t know the game. And others are just happy with having regular sex and don’t care about respect and loyalty…
[–]HeidoKussccchhnnifff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Dude at least you can get sex whenever you want, you're ahead of us guys that couldn't even get a woman to look our way and notice our existence. Just to get to that point I'll have to climb mt everest in the freezing cold butt ass naked.....a challenge I'm not up for when other guys seem to just smile and some women throw the panties to them (Chad and tyrone). Bro I agree many know what's going on and don't care, just happy to get regular sex. I can't share either and won't I'll be by myself before I'm with a woman getting pumped by some other dude on the side I just can't do it even for a lot of sex. Maybe I'm just different, if that's the case I really got the game fucked up man.
[–]pixieasf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
lmfaooo this is the reason no woman would ever want to speak to you 😭😭😭 idk how you cant see that you could just try to not view woman as sex objects and you know people and maybe we’d treat you with equal respect .. but it doesn’t seem like it’s going to be that way with ur weird ass comments
[–]HeidoKussccchhnnifff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
So you get butt hurt by me on another post, I gave you the last word and moved on with life, and now follow me here to still talk shit lmaoooo.....what a loser, I CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP 🤣🤣🤣🤣.....you can't comprehend a damn thing, who views women as sex objects in me and the previous guys discussion? It's always one that been looked at as a gremlin that wants to follow me around I feel flattered. I had to respond on this one, I got a reddit stalker/harrasser, can you be anymore pathetic......well I'll be damned 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
[–]pixieasf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
lmaoo me and my bf just like making fun of incels online and seeing them get all pissy like you ❤️❤️ xoxo good luck don’t get all eliot rodgers on us !!
Lmfaooooo......I hear you brotha, I'm right there with you
[–]pixieasf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
bro you are the incel king 😭😭😭
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Whatever bro. I don’t have to prove anything to you with your pink profile picture giving of the impression you some kind of Japanese hermit living in his mothers basement.
[–]pixieasf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
i think i speak for all women when i say that you don’t have to say anything more it’s very clear why we avoid you and people like you lmao
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Avoid these nuts.
[–]pixieasf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
who 😭? women? we are already avoiding you, you clearly view women as sex objects and have such a warped view of reality especially pertaining to women so good luck bud maybe try therapy
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I be outside in the field on the hunt for a new bitch. Have a good day.
[–]pixieasf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
alright good luck eliot rogers 😭😭 setting urself up for failure it’s so comical
No girl wants me
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That’s a lie
Why?
Because no girl wants me
[–]Iamnotthatguypall 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ima be honest and say it that i just want sex and don’t care about relationships i used to like or have lots of crushes when i was in school which never workout and now it’s so hard for me to like anyone I can’t seem to catch feelings
[–]BitchLetEmKnow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't like concerning my life around someone else.
The most i want is an fwb. Or NSA. while we're together we can do whatever but the minute we separate I'll do my own thing and they theirs.
[–]Local-Flounder-9918 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm 17 and not in a relationship BC I'm refuse to play the ignoring game to get attention and I'm nice to girls no matter how much I get hurt lol And I refuse to be friends BC what I want is clear and I'm not interested in being friends with a girl
[–]backindis -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
not in a relationship because i spent my late teens and early 20s chasing ass and titties
i was a horned up dog. i could have gotten a girlfriend in college but i wasn't too thrilled about the girls in my social group that were available. i wanted to PICK a girl that i was attracted to and that i was interested in. my standards weren't high or anything like that in college. but i did want a decent looking/pretty type of girl and i wasn't willing to fold on that. no way you would catch me beside some average looking girl just so i could have the title of "boyfriend". no way no deal
so i tried to get with the girls that i was attracted to and they all turned me down. they all had boyfriends or they weren't into me
in a frustrated rage i decided to learn game. went out and approached a ton while i was in college. this is when i first learned cold approach and was practicing heavily
got rejected everyday, pretty much got no results. only got flakey phone numbers. zero lays and no girlfriend
at that point i was getting starved out of sex. originally i wanted a GF for both the long term relationship and the sex. but i couldn't get either one and it's been years. i needed sex badly or i was gonna explode
so i resorted to paying. i didn't pay a lot at first but i paid to fuck some girls here and there. then i started using sugar daddy websites which has helped me significantly when it came to getting laid
i then spent most of my 20s just fucking girls
banging them out, paying them if i had to. 1 a week, sometimes 2 in a day. back to back. was going after every ass or pair of tits i could get my hands on. in the end i fucked out a lot of them, i think i'm close to 100 girls at this point
after banging out all those girls i think at this point i'm finally ready to get started when it comes to dating. i'm not sure why, but for me i needed to fuck those initial 100 girls to get my head straight in order for me to properly date. back in the day when i was approaching i couldn't focus. i wanted to fuck the girls as soon as possible and i couldn't think straight. now that i've fucked a bunch, i'm able to grasp the game better
i'm able to approach sets and focus on running them correctly. and i'm not hard pressed about getting laid because i know i have a stream of sex elsewhere
at this point, i could probably land a GF if i approach enough. who knows though, either way i'm not too bothered. as long as i'm out in the field, making moves, and not fucking up my sets, then i'm doing the best that i can and that's good enough for me to be honest
[–]Yerebeets 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you should see a therapist my man
Ha.....you sound like me
[–]Khopesh13 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
26M not in a relationship because I often lack the confidence/motivation to approach women in public. I also assume still living at home doesn't help.
Better than being in the late 30s like me and fucked up all kinds of ways......
I feel you. I’m in a relationship but I also live with my parents (and my partner with his) since we are both is school and don’t make enough to move out. The best cock block is having both families home ALL the damn time haha… siblings everywhere smh
[–]tathe1992 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm 29 and I've never been in a relationship or got a date. I'm not in a relationship because it's hard for me, most of my dates never get over the second date.
[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
another depressing irritating reminder how cases are male dominated like that
[–]tathe1992 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Apologies my friend, but I couldn't comprehend your message.
[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
what i'm saying is, it has always made me mad how its far more common for men than it is for women to go deep or late into adulthood, reach a certain age and to have never dated anyone, never had a relationship before or still a virgin, should be obvious as to why reality is cruel like that
[–]sincere_blasphemy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I (22f) have been with my partner (25m) for many years, since high school. We are committed and going steady :) Eventually, we definitely want to get married once we can live together. He informally asked me if I wanted to get engaged a while ago, but I said that I want to wait until we can live together, because it makes me sad to think of living away from your fiancé, especially for many years as cost of living is so high nowadays. Instead we bought promise rings for each other and consider ourselves casually engaged and refer to each other as partners.
I am studying to be a psychotherapist and he is studying computer science, and probably going into cloud computing. We try to take classes together and spend 2 days a week with each other. More time physically together is difficult because we are both very busy and he lives 30min away from me. We talk and play video games together every day.
I love being in a relationship because of the companionship. We've been together 7 years; we've been through many good times, and a lot of bad times. We are best friends who share romantic and sexual feelings with each other. I look at him the way one would look at their spouse. Serious trust and unconditional love.
Being in a relationship does take a lot of time, but for me, it's so worth it to have a life companion. Things are definitely not perfect, but we've shown over and over that we can and will work through problems and come out stronger together on the other side.
i bet he was the one who asked you out
[–]sincere_blasphemy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In a way; we had been friends for a few years prior and knew each other through school. At the end of the semester, he told me that he had feelings for me and asked if I felt the same. I said yes, and after a week of nervously and excitedly sending emails back and forth, he asked me to date officially.
Unfortunately, our parents were way overly involved, so we didn’t really get to do a lot of “dates” without parental supervision (yuck). There were school dances and outings with our siblings however. It actually wasn’t until I was 18 (we had an age difference) that our families allowed us to date each other without parental supervision and strings attached. It’s honestly really wild that it was like that for us, but that’s how it was.
why am i not surprised
So when you say a lot of bad times.......what do you mean.....and being together since high school one of you have already cheated......and assuming it's you. You had to want to try some other meat before you truly settle down. And I'm just saying this straight up no disrespect.
Haha, no, you are very wrong in this instance. He and I are fiercely against cheating and stand for ultimate trust and companionship in a relationship.
No, the “bad times” were times of growing and changing. We grew up together, and there were times where it felt we grew apart. But we held together.
Additionally, our respective parents felt it was improper for a young lady to date someone with a 3 years age gap (I can understand that, to an extent) and forbid us to be together except as “friends,” once he turned 18. Which really meant that we still considered ourselves partners, but we were never allowed to be physical. No kissing, nothing remotely sexual, or we would be breaking the rules they’ve given us. It was very stark and caused a lot of emotional damage.
I’ve certainly thought about dating other people, and he has as well. It’s pretty wild to think about marrying the first person you ever loved. But we’ve stayed in love with each other throughout and are best friends. We feel committed to each other (and there’s always threesomes haha).
Wow that's interesting, and I hear you. Hopefully then you both stand against the test of time and others who could tempt you both and you both just stay true to one another. Nothing wrong with marrying the first person you love, if you both are loyal like you say and building then the hell with anyone else's opinion, be nice if I had any woman showed half the effort......what a damn shame for me to be where I'm at and not so much a look my way let alone the commitment and loyalty and care you display for your guy......and hey, 2 is a party 3 is a fiesta lol, all the best
[–]Distinct_Face_5796 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because I have zero game, and can't get a gf to save my life.
[–]Qwertyuiop123zsy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For context I’m 22, Male and never been in a relationship and spent most of my free time when I was younger alone in my room.
I lived a very caged life for all my childhood as well as my teenage years. I never felt the need to hang out with people and video games often filled the void so friends were not something I really had and as such females weren’t really in my life either. Flash forward to late 2019 and me and my workmates were having a chat about relationships, women etc just general guy chat if you will. Long story short I end up downloading tinder with no relationship experience or ability to speak to women. We’re now in mid 2022 and I’m no better off really. Speaking to women has never been my strong suit in fact only up until maybe early 2022 could I actually speak to women at all I’d just crumble and fold like a shit hand in poker. If I had to single out to one specific reason it’s most likely due to my lonely and caged childhood that didn’t really allow me to go out and speak to people thus hindering my socials skills.
Luckily I have a pretty decent group of friends that I hang out with regularly and drink with and females engagement (for lack of a better phrase) are a lot more common in my life now. Most of my friends are in relationships and while I’m absolutely over the moon for them I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little bit jealous nonetheless I’ll keep trying I know someone is out there it’s just a matter of time :)
Hey man, you’ll get there eventually! It’s awesome that you’re putting yourself out there. My family was very overprotective of me (still is, in many ways) and that often hindered my social life and made dating really difficult. But you know what? I found my people (nerdy shut ins, haha) and you will too. I hope you get some luck in the romance department! Keep the hopes up, someone will come to you in time
[–]inline6throwaway 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not in a relationship cuz it's hard for me to attract women lol. That's why I'm in this subreddit
[–]MooseTheLegend 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The short version of it is ex and I had far too many differing opinions on current events and politics, turns out opposites don’t attract. She helped me realize my worth & that I shouldn’t settle. I’m getting too old to be hopping in a relationship where I’m looking past flaws and red flags. So the plan is for now is just stay single, work on myself, maybe get a dog.
I just started college, and at least for now, I think it's better to prioritize finding and making new friends than finding a relationship
Just have fun dude, make new friends, hook up with girls, hit the gym, the life is your oyster. We were in the covid lockdown most of my college years so that really sucked
[–]underthemoon36 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have trouble connecting with people. Not just women. Also I don't really leave the house much other then to run errands, work or go to the gym.
Since high school, all of my interactions with women in a sexual way have been through online dating. I do get some success there in matches but it is definitely more difficult than meeting people IRL. So here I am. I have a fwb and a couple other sexual relationships but nothing romantic. I don't know if anything romantic is going to happen any time soon. And I'm not really bothered by it.
I'm not seeking out romance. I'm open to it if it comes along. I'm a little pessimistic though because it's been so long and I'm in my 20s and really never been in a relationship where I can honestly say I've loved the other person. But like I said I'm open to it if it comes.
[–]WilhelmTrooper 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m almost 20 and a community college student. Nobody on my campus wants to socialize much less make relationships, like I can’t even just make friends. Right now I’m working a summer job and I’m using working 10-12 hours a day, 5 days a week and I never have off on weekends. In fact those days are my 12 hour days
True, community college students are pretty focused on their classes/jobs and current relationships. It was difficult for me to make friends there, so I ended up making friends at work instead.
Also that schedule sounds rough, but good on you for keeping up with it. You got this!
[–]aidsjohnson 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not in one because I can't find the right person
[–]Ectoplasmic1984 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i assume you had to hit on her, ask her out
What?
[–]Caitipoo421 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I gave my best years to my ex who is still my best friend. We’re great as friends, not so great at dating. We get lazy and weird towards each other every time we get sucked back into the romantic shit. I rebounded with someone i fell very hard for. It was the most toxic relationship i have ever had & tbh it fucked my head up so bad i was scared to even try again. I’ve been single for about a year and a half by choice. I needed a break from it all. I’m not in the best mental state rn and i don’t feel like it’s fair to put that on someone else. I’m also neurodivergent and am annoyingly direct with my words and need a lot of space. If it were to work with someone else they would either need to be ND as well or at least care enough to try to understand my brain and why i am the way that i am. Sex is easy for me. Love is hard. But, i also am not into fucking without feelings so it’s not looking very bright for me. LOL
Too much emotional crap. Once men like you they sometimes put weird expectations over me. Like texting, talking etc. Being a kind of therapist to them. Obviously the right man won't use me as a therapist he sleeps with, but it gets so tiring when these dudes who would swear I'm the over emotional one be super needy, insecure and emotional
To me, being in a relationship is like having a dog. It take responsibility and im just not there for it. I tend to be a very more reserved emotionally person and I just can't deal, sometimes, with other people's needs.
I don't want to get into something with a person and not provide what they want. Even if I get lonely sometimes, men can be hard to deal with when they get into their feels. And not in a bad way. Cuz they deserve to have someone who wants to listen and care for them, but it takes a level of emotional energy that I just can't muster
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