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[–]EthicalSeduction 110 points111 points112 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
My guess is you may be accidentally doing something "creepy", which is an umbrella term which basically means you could be causing the other person to feel unsafe or uncomfortable. Watch these things:
The art is in being able to ask for what you want while allowing the other person to feel safe and comfortable at all times. Safety is a foundation to establish because any form of attraction can start to work. (And if you mess up and suddenly the person isn't sure they are safe, it will kill anything you have built.) Safety and Trust may not be the exciting subjects, but they are perhaps the most important because without them, you get nothing. Hope this helps.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've definitely done wrong on all of these. Turned from too much of a nice guy to this sort of creep, then back to nice guy and so on. It's hard to find that balance but it's worth the push. I wish you or someone else would elaborate more on how to make girls comfortable while also creating attraction
[–]nordik1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
THE BIG ONE: Don't have a hidden agenda: For example if you are meeting people and in the back of your head it's because you want to lay them, this is going to show through. Now there isn't anything wrong with it if you can be authentic, open, and honest with what you want. BUT it's not cool to lead someone on with, for example, the idea that you may want to date them when in reality you just want to lay them
I don't get this one. This was my approach by default a few years ago and always worked fine. I never went out my way to make anyone think I was out for exclusivity, but I never made my lay intention known outright either, but I knew what my goal was. I don't feel like I ever had any issues with that and I personally don't know any guys that are letting that be known out of the gate.
[–]no_not_this 181 points182 points183 points 4 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
Well your getting dates off tinder so your ok in the looks department. 0/7 on a hook up app is not great if your goal is to get laid. Clearly you lack social skills. Socially awkward and weird is basically the same thing. You need to work on that but it’s hard to give advice with such little information. What do you talk about on these dates
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[–]melvinthefish 109 points110 points111 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Idk if you do this, but don't make it like a job interview where you are just asking them questions the whole date. You need to make conversation about things. Or tell them about yourself.
[–]dametime223 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This, and make the girl talk about herself.
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[–]TheNakedBongoMan 205 points206 points207 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
There's your problem
[–]no_not_this 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahahaha bingo
[–]Pretend-Im-Funny 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
any suggestions?
[–]TheNakedBongoMan 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hobbies enrich your life. Video games are a nice pastime/distraction. But they add nothing of interest to your character. Create something. Pick up an artistic hobby. Something where you're creating as opposed to just consuming. If all you do is consume, you'll have nothing but surface level conversations with potential partners or friends.
[–]ShortStuffV2 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
inhales
outdoor hobbies
hiking
climbing
swimming
rafting
kayaking
parasailing
surfing
travel
artsy/creative
reading/writing
painting
drawing
sculpting
pastels
acrylic pours
resin crafting
leatherworking
photography
3d modeling
video editing
dancy
salsa
bacchata
ballroom
hiphop
where's the lamb sauce
cooking
alcohols tasting - whiskeys, wines, beers
restaurant tourism/"taste of <city>"/food walks
saw con
anime/vidya/show/comic conventions
viking/ren fests
fitness dick
coed sports
lifting
...crossfit i guess
yoga
spin class?
meditation shit
running clubs
bi/tri/pent/decathlon training
fight club/mma
listen to iron maiden baby
singing
guitar
bass
brass
strings
drums
going to concerts or something
joining musicals/stagecraft
edm/learning to make beats
drugs
i don't know i don't do them but i guess some people like it
[–]MigasEnsopado 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well there is something you can improve! Get a few more hobbies. The more diverse the better. For example, pick up a sport and learn to play an instrument (just giving examples, it can be something completely different). It will make you a more rounded and interesting individual. You can continue gaming, don't worry, just don't make that your only hobby. Also, if someone asks what your hobbies are and gaming is one of them, don't be ashamed, OWN IT.
[–]VivaIlSesso -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
:(
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[–]VivaIlSesso 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
There is. Are you in college? Do you have a job? Any other hobbies? Have you traveled? Do you have any anecdotes or jokes? You need to become more “interesting”
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[–]VivaIlSesso 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well, now you know what to do
[–]no_not_this 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Op literally leaves out the most important details in his post
[–]CrowbarSmash 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You see now you don’t bring any value to the people you invite in your life, build yourself with one thing you enjoy doing that is also a positive for society, and share that with your next date when it is established.
[–]tukipenda 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is absolutely hope! You're young, this is totally something you can get better at! Sounds like you just need to work on your conversational skills. Finding a hobby where you can meet women in person will help a lot. You'll have something to talk about with them, and even if you don't meet someone to date right away, making some female friends is invaluable for practicing your conversational skills. Good luck! I promise this will get easier!
[–]Invest2prosper 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
You ask questions, they respond and what is your response to their comments?
[–]MigasEnsopado 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You lack social skills. I know what that's like. I had my first kiss and sex at 24 my friend. I'm going to recommend something that I don't think anyone mentioned: Therapy, as in with a psychologist. It's a bit expensive, but you don't have to go every week or anything. Other than that, keep pushing your comfort zone. Keep doing things you are not comfortable with.
[–]no_not_this 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Fuck you for saying that about bald guys. And I’m not even bald. There are attractive bald dudes and they’re getting way more pussy than you are. Your attitude sucks man plain and simple. Same with the fat shaming. No wonder you can’t get laid. Get your high school. Get a fucking job. And quit the video games. Because no one will fuck a loser
[–]i_always_give_karma 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I play A LOT of videogames and live in a healthy relationship with my girlfriend and her 2 cats. I think you’re right about one thing though. It’s their attitude. No one wants to be with a Debbie downer or someone who’s obviously just tryina get laid. This person needs to develops their own personality. Mine involves videogames, but I was also a d1 athlete and i make her laugh a lot. My advice to op would be to smoke some fkn weed and reflect on who you are
[+]VNF420 -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fat shaming is healthy, but the other parts are correct
[+]Pretend-Im-Funny -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
r/iamverybadass
[–]no_not_this 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No you’re a moron
[–]Wjourney 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
High school drop out who’s unemployed and plays video games all day…if you did drugs and got tatted you could pull a crazy amount of daddy issues chicks lmao
Seriously though do something. Stop playing video games until you’ve got something going on. Get a job that you like, or go back to school, etc. do something productive with your life that is going to lead to something more fulfilling. Then you can reward yourself with the games
[–][deleted] 54 points55 points56 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Be a Man, Stop associating your worth to women.
[–]AynRandMcNally 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
squeamish treatment teeny fear sugar paltry simplistic sort saw live this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev
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[–]peduxe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
the environment is a factor but you can’t rely totally on the environment now to change things.
It starts with the self. Do things that contribute for high self esteem, be bold and assertive. Work on the areas you know you’re lacking a little each day and you’ll be on that path to have confidence in yourself.
Can’t blame external factors forever, actions needs to be taken.
[–]magnolia_webbie 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How exactly tho? I thought it was only natural for us to tie our manhood to our success with women.
If I get zero attention from women, then what does that tell about me? Surely there must be something terribly wrong with me?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't get stressed please. You need to enjoy your life first.
[–]magnolia_webbie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hard to when this whole thing is constantly there, living in the back of my head.
It's like that one missing piece that I just can't obtain. I need that one success. JUST. That one success. It's all I can think about.
[–]ShortStuffV2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you and i are in the same boat
the thing is that you will see yourself this way as long as you are stretching yourself too thin thinking about "approach! show interest!" etc
take some time for tlc, go hang out with friends in places there are no approach opportunities
pet some cats or dogs or whatever
touch some grass
cure the depression before getting back on the sarge and remember that it's all shallow shit. women will drop you at the slightest hint of awkwardness but this doesn't mean you're a terrible person it means that you haven't learned an incredibly difficult skill that takes thousands of failures yet
removing the stressing and tryharding is the first big step because that is visible every time
[–]bigmanpav 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Don't go on walks. Invite to a cafe or bar near your place and invite them home afterwards or at least kiss and set a second date at home
[–]santiorjuela20201 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What's wrong with walks? Genuinely asking
[–]GO_Zark 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Walks are fine if you're the sort of person that can keep an interesting conversation going without thinking about it or needing outside stimulus to draw upon. But if that sort of conversation skill isn't in your toolbox yet, it's better to go somewhere or do something interesting that generates conversation. Flea markets, local festivals / parades, farmer's markets (especially if you can cook), dog parks, etc are all better outdoor walk-y options if your conversation skills are a bit weak.
I double the earlier call for OP to develop hobbies other than gaming. Part of being an interesting and interactive conversationalist is having a variety of experiences to draw upon when interacting with another person. After that, it's about seeing how the other person reacts to the topic and being able to smoothly transition between different topics without saying "Not to change the subject, but I'm changing the subject". If you have more topics that you enjoy talking about in your toolkit, you have a higher likelihood that the other person is going to jump in and engage on something they're also interested in or passionate about - and then away you go.
It's also important to have your own opinions and not just mirror hers unless you are both very well matched. "Yes-men" aren't attractive and you should be able to both hold an opinion different from hers and be firm but kind in your disagreement. Men who get all pissy when a woman disagrees with them - especially if she's right - also aren't attractive
[–]bigmanpav 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing wrong with them, but it takes a certain dating/seduction skill level to turn it into a successful date. So OP should avoid them until he gets better
[+]BigChestCliff -35 points-34 points-33 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Get them to a bar, but I don't drink, which freaks them out because I'm very attractive and ripped. Girls are suspicious of me because they always ask if I have other girls and why I chose them, or they really want to know everything about me, which kills attraction. However, that is an excellent suggestion. I'll give it a shot on my next date. Any advice on how to kiss while talking and laughing?
[–]Invest2prosper 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This has to be a troll post! Are you serious on the last question?
[–]Yellow_Squeezer -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It seems like a valid question to me. Some guys actually talk and laugh a lot on their dates, which makes it hard for them to create the moment kiss the girl.
[–]Yellow_Squeezer 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know why is your comment getting downvoted.
If they want to know everything about you, you can still be mysterious and keep the attraction that way.
If you don't drink, why would you take them to a bar? You can take them anywhere else. Even a walk is fine, just make it close to your place.
You can go for the kiss after she stops laughing. Also that's the right time because it's an 'emotional high point'.
[–]froze_gold 32 points33 points34 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
My step by step has worked for me. Formulated based on advice from men who get laid often.
Greet with a hug or "intimate" hand shakes - breaking the touch barrier right away is crucial otherwise you'll be fumbling. (What's an "intimate handshake?" Offer your hand, hold eye contact with a slight smirk/side smile and gently hold her hand longer a tiny bit longer. Say "it's great to meet you ;)" and maybe rub your thumb a bit. Take it slow and cool. Least effective and doesn't always work out, still breaks TB)
talk about her. It's charming. Hold as much eye contact as possible. Smile just as much. Ask her questions about anything and let her talk.
Do not. I repeat DO. NOT. Talk more than her. Don't go bitching about your problems if she bitches about hers. Don't be a gossip girl. A good friend never fucked fair lady and believe it or not, girls don't make out with other girls as often as movies say
Offer a second location. Something that lets you be more personal. If you start at a bar or restaurant, go walk for ice cream and sit with her at a nice spot.
Plausible deniability. "I've got netflix, drinks, and snacks. Come be a pig w me and watch what you like :)" (Her internally: "Oh it's just netflix and food, it couldn't hurt. Oh jeez I know what he wants but he's so charming..") She might even say something implying she knows you're after sex. It's probably a poor shit test or a way of pre-rejecting you. A+A or ignore it and say "I've been thinking about pop tarts and stranger things all damn day!"
if you succeed at the other steps, she's probably next to you on your couch and you two are talking a bit or watching something. There's sexual tension.
Throw a hand around her and make more eye contact.
When you get that feeling in your gut to kiss her, you DO IT. Lock eyes, hold her hand, shoot for it. She's already open to you at this point and letting you know by not pushing you away. She. Is. Down.
Escalate. Foreplay the hell out of her long before you use your dick. Think lesbian porn and just do alot of hands and mouth stuff.
Edit: If you have time before your date, do some masculine things to boost your testosterone. Go to the gym, climb trees, chop wood, etc. Just shower up after.
[–]Quantum-117 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Precisely 🤙
Bros gotta stop trying to “get laid” and focus on establishing that bond with a lady.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is next level shit
[–]FluffyBlueberry8807 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. Rinse and repeat
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Climb treas XD
[–]froze_gold 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yessir. Believe it or not, I had sex on a first date in which the first thing I did after greeting her on a busy street was jump into a tree. I broke my phone though and she begged to let her buy me another one haha.
[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just learn how to escalate, that seems to be your sticking point, and repeat, what you are already doing. Every failed attempt will teach you something and increase your social skills. Sooner or later your behaviour will be on point and you will click with someone. "Weird" is totally subjective, no matter how you are, you'll always be weird to some people. You'll be fine.
[–]InfectionRx 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
like what that chick said
stop being weird
[–]vincentmario -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'd also recommend not calling women 'chicks' like this guy
[–]IGiveSilverBullets 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
lol what? Never been a problem
[–]vincentmario 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Unfortunately there are no peer reviewed journals on the subject of the derogatory nature of calling women 'chicks' because of this subject being very niche. Therefore, there's no evidence that shows women don't like being called chicks. Anecdotally, however, there's a fair amount you can find. I've never met a women in my life who has liked or felt neutral about being called a chick with the exception of around two. Doing some Google searching also suggests that women using websites such as Reddit, Quora, Stack Exchange, Word Reference, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube (to name a few) feel as if the term 'chick' is offensive
[–]IGiveSilverBullets 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I appreciate the well thought out response. Like I said i’ve never seen a girl have a problem with it but I’ll keep that in mind
Me neither
[–]Zealousideal6669 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being more confident, showing more intent, being more social there's so many things that you can work on so just pick one and better day by day
[–]Practical_Run7033 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What you need to do is let your hair down. Getting laid is an art. You need to take your date out for a couple of drinks. That will help the conversation flow and shake the inhibitions off. Feed her a lovely meal. Ensure you have a place of your own, or a friends which is empty for a nightcap and dessert. Play music when you reach the place and ask the young lady for a dance. Ensure the third song onwards the playlist moves to slow music. Then take the young lady in your arms and slow dance. That is when you will know if she is open to giving you a night or not. The rest is evolution.
[–]Furyann 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
just dont call her young lady
[–]Practical_Run7033 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahahaha, yes, please call her by her name when the evening starts. When you have her in your arms you can call her the term of endearment you youngsters use these days .. dude, baby. Sweetheart if u r old fashioned.
[–]nordik1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is this the compendium to getting laid in 1865? Lol
It is still 1865 in India .. hehe
[–]youcheekydelinquent 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So it sounds like you need to become socialized. That means talking to more people and learning how to fit in. Clearly, some stuff was missed in Kindergarten or your childhood. Not to worry it's all learnable it will just take more deliberate practice.
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[–]Furyann 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this
[–]7GoodVibes 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I suggest getting off apps like tinder and learning how to interact in person first.
Second, quit focusing on getting laid. This just screams of desperation. Learn to be a bit more socially savvy first, getting laid will come with that as a natural side effect.
[–]smolspag 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
cant stress this enough! dont get on tinder before u know how to talk to people!
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your problem is that you are socially awkward. So I suggest socializing more and working on your interpersonal skills.
[–]Sea_Instruction9175 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Giving advice isn't really my forte but if u wanna get laid, u must go around from places to places.
U can't simply find anyone who would share the same interests as you if u don't put yourself out there.
Patience is also a big factor along with Confidence. You'll find someone out there eventually. Find someone that would love the real you. If necessary change up the things that needed to be changed like only playing video games and shiz.
However, If u ain't looking anything serious and just wanted to get laid, Work on your social skills. Words can be a powerful tool, but it's very easy to make mistakes.
[–]Fate-in-haze 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Check out Dr Nerdlove's books and blog.
[–]hagakurejunkie 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You need to stop focusing on getting laid.
That's like applying for a job for the sole reason of getting health care, you don't care about the job or the money, you just want one thing and NOBODY is going to hire you.
No bragging, I have been with well over 140 women, I have had sex thousands of times in my life and I can absolutely say sex by itself is HIGHLY OVERRATED!
Contrary to popular belief, sex by itself will not solve your problems, it doesn't cure cancer or improve your looks, make you more money, it doesn't do pretty much ANYTHING!
Sex isn't even rare, humans have quintupled the human population in the last 150 years because we all had sex.
Now, on the other hand, sex with a woman whom you are completely fucking mad about and she's mad about you, that sex is like a nuclear fucking BOMB!
I'm in such a relationship now and I can tell you, I'd hand all the girls back I've been with previously if it meant I could have met this girl sooner.
She's is fucking hilarious and I have never had a better time with another human than I do when I'm with her. Needless to say, sex is incredible with her because we both want to please each other.
Focus on actually meeting a woman you WANT to spend time with. This thread is called SEDUCTION not "How can I put my dick in a random girl without getting to know her?" for a reason.
[–]nordik1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Right, but some guys enjoy the game and variety too. Even if the sex is freaky as hell, it eventually becomes the same ol' girl again. I've done LTR's as long as 6 years (with a great sex life in all of them), and also the single game for years. The variety is a lot of fun and the itch to explore always comes back when seeing the game girl consistently.
[–]hagakurejunkie 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It gets old as fuck the higher your body count goes, Trust me. Game until you’re in your forties and come back and tell me how goddamn boring it is. The only guys who think its amazing are the guys who have low numbers. If this girl ends up staying, I will have no regrets.
[–]evitrron 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If you're only focused on "getting laid" you're basically looking for someone to masturbate with and there is nothing appealing or attractive about that unless you're completely transparent about what you're looking for without leading on the other person.
Physical attractiveness may open more doors but it can only get you so far. It can be completely irrelevant if someone's personality is completely lacking or unappealing.
Focus on yourself. Develop skills, interests and hobbies to grow your self-worth and confidence. Be both an interesting person and geniuely INTERESTED in who you're choosing to spend time with. Genuine connection is key to connecting on deeper levels - mental, emotional aaaand physical.
[–]evitrron 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You explore them by making time for them, making them a priority and that takes a mental shift. I was working 50 hour weeks in hospitality while also pursuing photography and videography and I've now been running my own biz since 2019. So hobby and work has collided somewhat for me but I still make time for creativity outside of client work among other hobbies. Personally, I love photography, tennis, bike riding, pilates, gardening, reading, playing the odd video game, travelling, anything beach/ocean, going out for brunch/dinner/drinks/etc. I studied and have continued interest in history, spirituality, film studies which I'll regularly deep dive into and read books or articles on. Simple things but I enjoy doing them so I make time for them. Time is the only finitie resource that truly matters and I ain't wasting mine not doing things that fulfil me or not spending time with people that light me up.
You’re not escalating.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mom's spaghetti
[–]rosiegal75 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ot maybe you're picking women who want more than to just get laid.. If all you're after is sex, get yourself a prostitute and you're guaranteed your happy ending.
[–]slumpmode 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ll give you the 100% success secret of having atleast some luck with the opposite sex: Go after people who already like you
[–]ChoiceTank 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read Models by Mark Manson and try again after
[–]Kingtoke1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Number 1. Your self defeatist attitude is a huge red flag. Number 2. You need to get out it your shell. If all you do is hermit you’re about as attractive as white dog shit. Number 3. Talk to your friends, ask for pointers, constructive feedback etc. And the biggest point of all. Number 4. Play it cool. Don’t advertise you’re out for sex. She probably is too, but she has options and low drama trumps everything.
[–]Majestic_Meal_5655 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OK bro, looks to me like you are super new at this. Follow AMS "Alpha make strategies" on YouTube. He is my favorite dating/life style coach on the net. I'll give you a quick rundown. 1. Body. (Sculpt your body) 2. Mind (Educate yourself) 3.Wallet (make more money). These are the pillars of masculinity. Keep working on your social skills. They might find you awkward and weird because you are scared of being an unapologetic version of yourself. You might be coming across like a harmless rabbit. Become a predator, like a wolf.
[–]warrior_level_9999 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Read this
[–]bfranklin08 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What is this?
[–]warrior_level_9999 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is another post on this subreddit that can help OP start of on the journey of seduction 🗿
[–]bfranklin08 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Bro i just checked it out. I need this info real bad too! 🤝
[–]warrior_level_9999 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Glad I could Help 😎
[–]Zelenkastanislav 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kiss her asap
[–]BackyardByTheP00L -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You could take your date to an actual movie this summer. Nothing depressing, but something like Maverick. Where men are heroes, not the 'bad'guy. Offer to go out for appetizers, ice cream, or pizza to discuss the movie. So she realizes you're not trying to get her drunk. If you go on a walk, sit on a bench to rest and offer to give her a shoulder rub, especially if she's mentioned stress in her daily life. Back in the day we'd use this as a non threatening segue to physical contact & intimacy. You could kiss her neck, sit down and ask if that helped. If she seems relaxed, well, phase two commences that night. Phase three & four might need another date, but, the door has been opened.
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[–]BackyardByTheP00L 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
For people who are socially awkward or new to dating, it's a noncommittal bonding experience and going out afterwards gives you something to talk about (the movie). Seriously, going to dinner & a movie used to be considered normal. What suggestions do you have for dating in the digital age? I'm done commenting on this sub as all I get is flack for my ideas.
it's a noncommittal bonding experience and going out afterwards gives you something to talk about (the movie)
It's too much to commit to with someone who you may not be attracted to. These are girls coming in off Tinder who you've never met and can look totally different from their pics, have a different vibe, could've gained 20lbs etc, and on top of that you cannot start to build sexual tension sitting next to someone in a movie theater for 2.5 hours. That is critical bonding time lost and discussing a movie isn't interesting for more than 60 seconds either. Shoulder rubs to help her stress levels is goofy and is going to get a guy like this stuck in an awkward position of being labeled a creep if it's not done with finesse.
The standard (grab a drink, change venues, maybe do a chill activity like darts while talking and drinking) is the standard because its low pressure, allows for plenty of interaction, flirting and escalation, can be segued back to your place easily, and a quick way out if you aren't attracted to the girl at all.
I can down a shot of tequila and get the fuck outta there in 15 minutes if the chick is wack and go approach other girls if I want to. If I'm in a theater I'm locked in for awhile. If I like her, I can easily start to escalate flirting right off the bat rather than having to wait a couple hours or do some lame hand hold move in a movie theater like a teenager. Plus we can change venues multiple times in that same amount of time which creates more fun and an illusion of our time together being longer (aka more comfort).
[–]BackyardByTheP00L 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess I figured texting back & forth had already been done, also having the daytime date for coffee at Starbucks...and then it was confirmed she was the subject of desire. No one plays the long game anymore, huh? The dance of desire? Too much effort I guess.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read my post Why Your Tinder Matches Don’t Translate Into Lay or something like that
[–]justme219 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go into it with the thought that you are not getting laid for the first few dates. Those first few dates are for getting to know her, for making her laugh, and for finding out if you have chemistry.
If you take sex out of the equation, you won’t come across as weird or perverted.
[–]gangweedsavedme 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The greatest signal you can give on a first date is the ease of conversation, it makes them comfortable while giving the impression that you’re competent and popular. So practice conversation consistently.
[–]hacklinux 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
25 year old kissless virgin here.
[–]SkatingOnThinIce 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Next date try thinking: "I'm meeting my best pall, I can be natural and relaxed and talk about whatever I want. I'm not here to get laid"
Your post does not tell us anything about yourself. Let me ask this:
-What are you exatly looking for? A gf or a hookup?
Do you swipe on every girl or you have some requirements? Requirements such as: have similiar interest, being fit...
Do you have some interest?
Are you broke? Why you choose long walks as first date? Especially If you want to hookup your best bet is to go to a restaurant as a first date
As for the social anxiety part: why you think woman think of you as "weird"? Like with the last woman (the one who did not want you even as a friend) what did you two talk about?
[–]Accomplished_Bed723 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Getting girls to meet you in person is already a big achievement so dont be too hard on yourself. The girl calling you weird was probably uptight and dating some boring fucker in a financed Mercedes A class. Just try and be more relaxed with girls, have a laugh and keep the conversation going off what they say to you. I always find gaslighting them after they say something usually gets a laugh and then just keep it going. Be random as well, if youre just walking suggest going for a drink or doing a different activity like crazy golf or something (just a cliche example you know what i mean) to help ease the tension. Make sure you flirt as well, a girl simply wouldnt meet you if she wasnt even slightly interested in you, so just be confident and tell yourself that she must be interested otherwise she would have ignored you let alone meet you in person. You got this mate😇
[–]Amikatey 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You need to create a scenario were things can happen, else it will never. Taking a walk i assume on the street in public you know it's not a place were intimate things can happen. You say you are 20 so i assume you still live in Mom and Dad's basement. But the step should be after the first date if things go well.. Next time you can invite her to come over and if you know how to play the game.. You can nail shit.
How do you get matches?
[–]HandsomeTomatoes22 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It sure sounds like you need to improve your social skills. I would take small steps. Thing I would do if I was you in no particular order.
Learn to hold a conversation. It’s invaluable not with just women but if you want to do well for yourself in life.
Make and maintain eye contact with people during conversations.
Allow others to speak and you listen. Reaffirm the things you’ve heard with follow up questions.
Become well groomed. Wear clothes that fit you and the lifestyle you want to live.
Be critical of yourself in order to improve yourself.
Read books of self improvement.
Everything takes practice.
[–]blessedbelly 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you’re worried about getting laid it will never happen for you. Bide your time, and wait for the right person to come along. May take a month, may take 10 years. Just keep at it.
[–]non-troll_account 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eye contact. Do not break eye contact first. You don't even have to say anything. If you're maintaining steady eye contact, she can ask you a question, and you just smile coyly.
This works if you're attractive.
[–]Moonlyteshadow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Woman here…what women really hate are men who can’t be honest. Yes they might be on Tinder to hook up and yes you matched with them so they think you are attractive. Women can sense a guy who is trying to rush to get into their pants. You are literally trying to sleep with a girl you just met. You are really going to have to make your intentions clear before you waste her time. At least ask her why she’s on tinder what was she looking for. That if she’s looking for sex then you could meet at a hotel skip all the awkward talking and get straight to it. Trying to be nice and friendly to get into her pants is 1. wrong 2. Requires skill and time. You don’t want to pay for sex but news flash everyone is paying whether it’s the gas in the car to get there or paying for food etc. I’m telling you this as a woman who has met up just to hook up. Men can be honest and if she’s cool with it ok but stop trying to trick women.
At least ask her why she’s on tinder what was she looking for. That if she’s looking for sex then you could meet at a hotel skip all the awkward talking and get straight to it
Goodluck having that work, ever
I’m telling you this as a woman who has met up just to hook up.
You and these scenarios are the vast minority
[–]ShameAffectionate15 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
seems like you meet women thru apps. Women on dating apps judge extremely harsh because they get so many matches. Good luck!
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